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loser2000
Oct 7, 2008


Well i've been listening to hiphop for about 24 years now however I lost a bit of interest in it here and there in the 2000's and really late 90s, lately I find myself combing through youtube finding all the deep meaningful songs from the glory days, songs like these seem very rare/hard to find nowadays, back in the early 90's meaningful hiphop was easily accessible and most of the big artists had their tracks.. I just feel the urge to share some of these songs with people who kinda like hiphop but not really or people who are just new to hiphop, and i'd really like to be reminded of ones I forgot or made aware of new stuff that's hard to find, maybe it's the time in my life most of these came out but they seem like rare jewels at the heart of the so called golden era of hiphop..

One of the things that attracted me to hiphop as a kid was the lyrics were actually talking about real struggles and death and it was far more interesting to me than hearing someone go on about how much they love someone or hate the government or whatever(or like how nowadays alot of people rap about their cars and drugs), maybe this kind of hiphop was just done to death in the early 90s, it's pretty fascinating to me to see the changes it has gone through, but I know there's still lots of great stuff coming out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myqQ...feature=related
Nice and Smooth - Sometimes I rhyme slow: 1991 this song samples that tracy chapman fast car song, one of the most emo beats ever.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXBFG2vsyCM - Nas-Memory Lane
Haunting beat with typical amazing lyrics from Illmatic, this is the song that really turned me onto Nas, new york state of mind is great too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiOc...feature=related - Pete Rock & CL Smooth-T.R.O.Y 1992
This song is so heavy it's hard to listen to sometimes, maybe my favorite song of all time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILNcfOsU7sY - Naughty By Nature-Ghetto Bastard 1992
Not really a slow/sad song, I really feel the lyrics, the Bob Marley sample is just amazing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDfT...feature=related - Wu Tang Clan-C.R.E.A.M 1993?
To me this is the ultimate wu tang clan song/video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OR3I...feature=related - Intelligent Hoodlum-Return of the life remix early 90's
This song isn't very well known people should hear it imho.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwEgYyvlW5U - Ghetto Boys-6 Feet Deep
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G272iYvxW_w - Ghetto Boys-Minds playin tricks on me
Scarface/ghetto boys have alot of deep slow lyrical songs but these two stand out to me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivemPu466RA - 20-2-Life-Inside Looking Out
Only song I know by 20-2-Life, i'm sure there's alot of old southern stuff that i'd love if I knew it existed, I grew up too far north to hear much more than ghetto boys and UGK in the early 90s, I heard this a long time ago on a DJ Screw mixtape, I need to dig around more in old southern stuff.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5N4FQOogLfc - Funkdoobiest-Dedicated 1995
Funkdoobiest had some wacky fast paced songs but drat this one is smooth.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDAnK1LYfr8 - Dead Homies-Ice Cube
Ice Cube at his finest IMHO.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGF7...feature=related - Slick Rick-Hey Young World, 1988 this is the first song I can remember hearing with deep lyrics.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=loAV...feature=related - Lox-We'll always love big poppa
I haven't analyzed the time when BIG died but drat this song was like the end of an era and I felt like puff daddys police ripoff/collaboration super mega platinum commercialization song almost spearheaded hiphop into a crappier direction.(i'm probably being ignorant)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4c5DlqZUNA - Smif N Wessun - PNC 93? I forget
Black Moon and Smif N Wessun were so great, this is the deepest song I can think of from their camp.

Ok that's all I can come up with and I think it's well rounded, hopefully this doesn't count as a rule breaking post your favorite thread, if it does then oh well, these songs are important to me and I really want to hear of songs with deep lyrics/slow beats that are coming out today about death/life struggles, hiphop has blown up in so many directions these days it just seems impossible to find what I want sometimes, there's too much of it, in the early 90s if you were into hiphop you couldn't avoid this stuff, I feel this stuff is required listening in the hiphop genre.

Hope someone enjoys finding these songs, anyone got some artist recommendations or obvious classics of this type I forgot?

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Dotcom Jillionaire
Jul 19, 2006

Social distortion


That Naughty by Nature song is classic. You can't talk about turn of the decade hip-hop without bringing up The Pharcyde though.
The Pharcyde - Bullshit (more classic Bob Marley samples here).

Notorious B.I.G - Everyday Struggle is another great one, Biggie wrote a bunch of pretty deep songs come to think. This one has a great sound to it though.

Scheme
Jul 31, 2005


loser2000 posted:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXBFG2vsyCM - Nas-Memory Lane
Haunting beat with typical amazing lyrics from Illmatic, this is the song that really turned me onto Nas, new york state of mind is great too.


Thank you so much for exposing me to this song. It's the best NAS song I've ever heard thus far. To be honest I hadn't like many of his songs/style. (Especially the more recent, 'ima nigga, hes a nigga, shes a nigga, wouldn't ya like to be a nigga too?)

All it took was someone with a bit more oldschool experience to really show me some things I didn't know, and I thought I truly knew everything about classic hip hop.

Thanks, great post.

edit: Gotta have tribe in the thread.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERQzl4xDpXk - Electric Relaxation.

Scheme fucked around with this message at Feb 8, 2009 around 03:48

loser2000
Oct 7, 2008


tehschulman posted:

That Naughty by Nature song is classic. You can't talk about turn of the decade hip-hop without bringing up The Pharcyde though.
The Pharcyde - Bullshit (more classic Bob Marley samples here).

Notorious B.I.G - Everyday Struggle is another great one, Biggie wrote a bunch of pretty deep songs come to think. This one has a great sound to it though.

Thanks im a total idiot for forgetting everyday struggle drat.

I should throw in Pharcyde-Passin me by
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjWG1h5j4eE

Mobb Deep-Temperatures Rising and Cradle to the grave
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsmB...feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdF8wEfP6MQ
Sooo many songs on the infamous album its crazy.

Nas-Halftime
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTOg_RGOEBg
When I got the zebrahead soundtrack it had a bunch of ok songs on it but halftime was on it and it was the first Nas song I heard I think, i'd put that in my walkman and just keep rewinding that song.

Da King & I - Tears
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wbo...feature=related
Good chance alot of people haven't heard this one it really fits the theme of the thread it's one of the best.

Pretty crazy how much good stuff came out in like a 4 year period, albums that really fit together and were rounded out with diff types of songs.

loser2000 fucked around with this message at Feb 8, 2009 around 05:13

Dead Snoopy
Mar 23, 2005


loser2000 posted:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDAnK1LYfr8 - Dead Homies-Ice Cube
Ice Cube at his finest IMHO.

an underrated classic from Kill At Will

Dotcom Jillionaire
Jul 19, 2006

Social distortion


Oh and also Warren G - Regulate

loser2000
Oct 7, 2008


tehschulman posted:

Oh and also Warren G - Regulate

Nice ill respond with Comptons Most Wanted - Hood Took Me Under
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCkk...feature=related

And it was pretty dumb to mention Ice Cube without Today Was a Good Day
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4RY...feature=related

Group Home - Suspended in Time
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRqUJ2ivFh0

Gangstarr - The Planet
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atdvWo4yzRI

Shyheim - On and On
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgbT...feature=related
:o

loser2000 fucked around with this message at Feb 8, 2009 around 06:17

Haledjian
May 29, 2008

Bee is stronger than flower. Goliad is stronger than bee. Goliad is stronger than all.


Me and Jesus the Pimp etc etc

Edit: come to think of it, I liked Runaway Love a lot too

Haledjian fucked around with this message at Feb 8, 2009 around 07:23

40 lbs to freedom
Apr 13, 2007

damn it feels good to be a gangsta

I don't see how you post about Biggie in a thread like this with any other song but this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUqa8L1HXOU --Suicidal Thoughts

Drunken Lullabies
Aug 1, 2006

by Debbie Metallica


Souls of Mischief - '93 Till Infinity
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mt3vZHDiM8

Gaggins
Nov 20, 2007



Here's some that have that effect on me. The first ones are more emotional while the rest are just engaging on random levels. The OP contained some that I would have thrown in (Nas, Geto Boys) and some of the replies as well (Mobb Deep, Pharcyde [I like 'Runnin' the best]). Older Wu has a bunch of poo poo like this (it sounds like you already know that).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26mTcS337iE
Where was Heaven

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoakxO5taMQ
All that I Got is You

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBG3xxRehMo
Hellrazor

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3ltSb02JKs
Illusions

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRsCy6-mtvo
4th Chamber

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTcPGHLH6mw
Watch the Ice Break
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GoJEAVyXgCc
Mind Over Matter

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uwb31R4d8eY
Alive on Arrival
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbjGX5DCu8E
What Can I Do

Droopy Goines
Aug 2, 2003

Presented in DTS ES 6.1 where available.

Troubleneck Brothers - Back To The Hip-Hop
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnKphOBOS0o

This song is fantastic and fits your criteria.

tommej
Apr 18, 2007

by Fistgrrl


Del - love is worth
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HoHlfBHH9Ck

tacosupreme
Jun 24, 2006
ask me about men.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBn6s_VqEjM

Summertime in the LBC - Dove Shack/Warren G

Used to get played in the BBQ restaraunt I worked at. Maybe not so much hip hop, but definitely gives me the warm fuzzies.

loser2000
Oct 7, 2008


Droopy Goines posted:

Troubleneck Brothers - Back To The Hip-Hop
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnKphOBOS0o

This song is fantastic and fits your criteria.

drat thanks I barely remember it, this is one of those songs i'd hear now and then on radio shows but probably couldnt find out who it was or find it, the mp3/youtube generation has no idea how it was back then when you'd hear half of a song on a radio show that would blow your mind and it would set you on a mission to somehow get a recording of it somehow someway, like when I first heard Memory Lane it was at a party and my friend passed me his radio walkman like yo listen to this omg and I hear the second half of the song and waiting weeks to finally manage to hear the whole thing, recording shows/videos was like a hobby.

So much good stuff linked in this thread, I feel ashamed I left out 93 til infinity and Suicidal Thoughts by BIG, the whole ready to die album is just something everyone has to hear from first track to last track without a break, machine gun funk and juicy really pop into my head

In response to suicidal thoughts i'll hit you with Gravediggaz - 1-800-Suicide
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O460...feature=related
Holy poo poo this song is so good... Gravediggaz were insane.

I guess I never thought of hieroglyphics as deep/slow and was kinda on the death/struggle stuff too much in my post, 93 til infinity and casual-fear itself can fight for my favorite complete albums of all time, they really came out of nowhere amongst all the LA/new york stuff. Casual-That's how it is is the perfect hiphop song to me, completely flawless, doesn't fit the theme of this thread at all though.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXckgo0eehw

OMG Big Daddy Kane - Dance with the Devil
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QgXcwDz8m8 - Crappy youtube link but oh well

Black Moon - I Got Cha Open & Buck em Down remix
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UP2mlvJkAPY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6D4aPRjV6g
Don't know how I left out black moon I blame it on lack of sleep.

Brand Nubian - Slow Down
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuha...feature=related
This was imho one of the most influential songs of 1990, then they were influential again some years later with Punks Jump up which was a totally diff style, these guys deserve alot of respect.

Main Source - Looking at the front door & Just Hangin Out
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kokG...feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZEx...feature=related
Classic anyone who hears this will like it, and again imho really really influential stuff for the very early 90s.

Kool G Rap & DJ Polo - Streets of New York
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4wJtMZl6iA
Staying on topic of influential slow/serious 1990 stuff, kool g rap was wayyyy ahead of his time and spawned alot of peoples styles I think.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTzh...feature=related
^offtopic really old song with Nas 1992 I think, I bet he was living out his dreams being on a song with kool g rap

Eric B and Rakim - In The Ghetto
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgdKJ68O71U
Leaving this out of the thread would be really ignorant.

Oh snap E-40 out of nowhere with 1 Luv
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ismQ...feature=channel
Trying to show love for both coasts E-40 was always on his own poo poo, awesome lyrics, 1994 I think?

Lol Keith Murray - The Most Beautifullest Thing In The World.. how did I miss this, anyone who hasn't heard it, you're welcome.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snOm...feature=related

Ok I know i'm spamming but I have to add one more to this post, Artifacts - Wrong side of the tracks.. I think im starting to run out, sort of, i'm coming to really realize how much I loved 1990-1995, so many different styles.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qa4j...feature=related

loser2000 fucked around with this message at Feb 8, 2009 around 17:39

InvincibleMadHouse
Jan 19, 2009


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3IpUxa6uHs
Good old thug mansion, extra acoustic so extra slow.

glorp
Dec 12, 2004

by T. Butt


if yall dont listen to these yall are gay word up

LORD FINESSE - CHECK THE METHOD

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bH8HDOK0DHI

AYATOLLAH AND RAKIM - COLD FEELING

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqpUEb6UY14

GODFATHER DON - SLEEP

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rNJZ_ZHXPo

SCREWBALL AND PSYCHO LES- SCREWED UP

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IoEjAadTl0k

SURREAL AND THE SOUND PROVIDERS - THEY CALL ME

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYdeKTOyh8c

JUICE AND THE MOLEMEN - KEYS TO THE CITY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHUfDZjpzCg

PEOPLE UNDER THE STAIRS - EARTH TRAVELERS

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JF4s6b31yMU

PRINCE PAUL AND DR OCTAGON - BLUE FLOWERS

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7LvdlYKQ6I

DJ KRUSH AND TRAGEDY KHADAFI - REAL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCqiPVU5gm8

DITC AND TONY TOUCH - THE CLUB

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXS4tOtL4iM

BUCKWILD AND BIG L - MVP REMIX 1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akgaTWgNWfQ

loser2000
Oct 7, 2008


glorp posted:

if yall dont listen to these yall are gay word up


Wow I love you, this is like my dream post.

This made me dig a little deeper into the 90s memories with some lesser known Canadian stuff..

Saukrates, Self Scientific, Erule - Wonderful World
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sRVd31kDGU
Real gem here doubt alot of people have heard this.

Saukrates - Hate runs deep
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQCppMPxh3o
Classic Canadian hiphop.

Erule - Listen up
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rR1f...feature=related
1994, can't really think of a better flowing smoother song, not Canadian btw.

Citizen Kane - Elements of Mind
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhPmDSSjKEI
Best out of Canada ever to me, there's alot of good stuff to be found by them, if you like this keep digging in the related links.

Ghetto Concept - E-Z On Tha Motion & Much Love
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wol_hLlwDdg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_Wr...feature=related
Canadian 90s classics you probably haven't heard but should.

Back to Brooklyn - Crooklyn Dodgers - Return of the Crooklyn Dodgers.. just stumbled upon this one after I dunno how many years and it hit me
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opWY...feature=related

loser2000 fucked around with this message at Feb 8, 2009 around 18:42

glorp
Dec 12, 2004

by T. Butt


loser2000 posted:

Wow I love you, this is like my dream post

it never ends son. nor will it die.

BIG PUN AND BUCKWILD - DREAM SHATTERER (ORIGINAL)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkRL7Wruf1I

LORD FINESSE AND BIGGIE - PARTY AND BULLSHIT (REMIX)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4i7XdhsXOyM

EASY MO BEE AND DAS EFX - MICROPHONE MASTER

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIZ7Vi-Ke4Q

FAT JOE AND DOMINGO - PART DEUX

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bp931GHz-PY

DJ SPOOKY AND ORGANIZED KONFUSION - REKONSTRUCTION

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrs1i5OkkPU

JEDI MIND TRICKS - EXERTIONS (REMIX)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRAaW8SsgSo

SCREWBALL AND GODFATHER DON - Y2K

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aj_tmAEMj6c

MADLIB AND PLANET ASIA - CRITICAL (REMIX)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKdSOyd8bew

AZ AND STATIK SELEKTAH - ANIMAL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6_8qZwUKMo

KANKICK, PLANET ASIA, PHIL DA AGONY - DONT FIGHT THAT

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjSG91xf2qg

JAMAL AND PETE ROCK - FADES EM ALL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAWArp2tEFQ

LORD FINESSE AND LARGE PROFESSOR - HERE I COME (REMIX)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_Kr2RhWM4s

RJD2 AND DIVERSE - CERTIFIED

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WiWII8uDqUk

ALCHEMIST AND FREDDIE FOXX - STOCK IN THE GAME

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBIdqZ2oPRM

LORDS OF THE UNDERGROUND (AND EITHER MARLEY MARL OR KDEF, I CANT REMEMBER) - TIC TOC

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUB0Ky4UzCQ

DIAMOND D, TALIB KWELI, COMMON, PHAROAHE MONCH - THE TRUTH

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyFS2OEoh3c

Dotcom Jillionaire
Jul 19, 2006

Social distortion


Something tells me we're getting away from the "early 90s", but that's good! I've been looking for an excuse to post my favorite KRS-One joint

KRS-One - A Friend

Jock Mocken
Apr 6, 2005

on point like a unicorn, strapped like tha unabomb
everyday a work day but dont wear a uniform
Gucci Mane a dapper don, capper like a Capricorn


UGK - One Day
UGK - Diamonds and Wood

Gang Starr - Moment of Truth

Queen Mother Rage - Slipping into Darkness

O.C. - My World

Mac Dre - My Folks

Outkast - Crumblin' Erb

For me, "One Day" is synonymous with "emotional slow hip-hop", and the rest of these are pretty good too. Some great poo poo in this thread, along with a lot of stuff I'd never heard; nice!

jonpv
Apr 19, 2007



OutKast - Toilet Tisha

loser2000
Oct 7, 2008


Some old southern/gangster stuff for a change of pace..

DJ Paul - Sweet Robbery
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5K5M3y7yrk
Three 6 Mafia are crazy commercial now and I can't say i'm a fan, I wasn't aware of old memphis stuff back in the days but drat there was alot of interesting stuff, this song is really slow and um.. emotional, dj paul went from rapping about throwing a baby in a washing machine to winning an oscar, I really like this beat, most people will prob dislike this song.

Lil Gloc & Sawed Off Gangsta - Victim of a Driveby & Come and get your wig split
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xwnjKHzhEs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHe1...feature=related
Another couple songs I like from the old old three6mafia, these guys sound pretty real and from the heart, I think their careers ended really quickly due to jail.

UGK - Crampin my style & Feel Like I'm the One Thats Doin Dope
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouW2PsfBn_Y
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbtK...feature=related
Too Hard To Swallow is one of the best albums ever, ugk were really versatile.

PSK13/UGK - Like Yesterday
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVdB...feature=related
Love this song, don't know when it came out, pretty ignorant about southern stuff in general but seems like theres tons of great stuff to be found, old dj screw mixtapes are great.

Bone Thugs n Harmony - Love of Money, Crossroads, 1st of the Month
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63kRUCWstCo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xpmr...feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpBP...feature=related
Not southern and I don't even like them or listen to anything by them, but I like these 3 songs.

Scarface - A Minute to Pray and a Second to die & Now I Feel Ya
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIWY...feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pNz...feature=related
A couple important old Scarface songs from the MANY, he's right up there with nas big pac rakim whoever for greatest lyricist of all time.

2Pac/BIG/outlawz - Runnin
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0Md...feature=related
Most people know this song but this thread isn't complete without it.

Goodie Mob - Cell Therapy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuWB9Nhoypw
aww yeah

keeping it early to mid 90s here

ok big edit just found a song that popped into my head
Juggaknots - Clear Blue Skies
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mMfavxyFUI
You have to hear this one, not well known at all, one of the best.

loser2000 fucked around with this message at Feb 8, 2009 around 20:31

GET MONEY
Sep 7, 2003

i advise you to step, son

Jay-Z - D'evils

One of the best tracks on Reasonable Doubt.

loser2000
Oct 7, 2008


bakahams7er posted:

Jay-Z - D'evils

One of the best tracks on Reasonable Doubt.

Jay-Z is the one famous MC that I never really liked, he's obviously an amazing lyricist, I need to give reasonable doubt a real listen, I have heard the album through before but don't even remember this song and it's good.

The snoop sample makes me think of a song I should have linked
Snoop Doggy Dogg - Murder was the case 1993
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lr32...feature=related
I was on acid+weed the first time I heard this album and for some reason I thought snoop was satan in this song, bragging about getting away with murder.

glorp
Dec 12, 2004

by T. Butt


to everybody whos stressin the 90s, id like to point you to the title. it just says 'old,' not 'decade-old.'

loser2000 posted:

Jay-Z is the one famous MC that I never really liked, he's obviously an amazing lyricist, I need to give reasonable doubt a real listen, I have heard the album through before but don't even remember this song and it's good.


why jay-z used to be underrated

PROD CLARK KENT; COMING OF AGE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzdsygJmDqs

PROD DJ PREMIER; FRIEND OR FOE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5g8G5mqSdI

PROD JUST BLAZE; U DONT KNOW

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FKqcsVds44

A MIRACLE
Sep 17, 2007

All right. It's Saturday night; I have no date, a two-liter bottle of Shasta and my all-Rush mix-tape... Let's rock.

This is my favorite Ice Cube song
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8niCQ1ITExU

also

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0Sp...feature=related

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

loser2000
Oct 7, 2008


glorp posted:

to everybody whos stressin the 90s, id like to point you to the title. it just says 'old,' not 'decade-old.'



why jay-z used to be underrated



Yea i'm the only one that's really early 90s crazy i'm looking at all the old albums I had and stuff and figuring out my fav songs for reasons other than this thread now and am making another list of 90-94 songs that fit the theme of the thread roughly to post, just feel like alot of songs from those years had unique sounds+great purposeful lyrics and there were so many legends coming up with unique styles. Personally I wanna hear stuff from any era of hiphop thats like that, but alot of what's meaningful to people or emotional or whatever depends on what you've been through I guess. I know alot of classics all the way up to stuff coming out this year but i'm most familiar with the early 90s

Camron Tom Gist - Kill my Dog
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Owi6Dw8C1dM
Example of a new song i'd love to hear that I may not know about thats perfect for this thread to me.

Smugglaz - Street Dreams
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4eGd...feature=related
Another newish song I really feel.

Jay-Z I cant figure out, theres something about his voice that I dont like, it's just a weird particularity with me, it's def nothing against him as a rapper, I dont even know anyone who dislikes him.

I guess my title contradicts this post a little but I dont really have much experience making threads, maybe it *should* be mostly older stuff I dunno lol, I kinda doubt many people are going to come up with alot of new stuff that fits the theme(which itself is pretty negotiable).

loser2000 fucked around with this message at Feb 9, 2009 around 01:19

TheYellowFog
Oct 16, 2008

grain alcohol and rainwater


Wutang Clan - Can It Be All So Simple
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhGDEu11MRM
the ultimate "remember the good ol days" song, but very sad. Best and most depressing line in the song is "Yeah, my pops was a fiend since sixteen/
Shootin' that (that's that poo poo!) in his blood stream"

Black Star - Thieves in the Night
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xBZ...feature=related

Outkast - Liberation. Erika Badu kills this song, her part starts at about 4:00 and its amazing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twOK5sXccmY

I know it's not too old, but
Mos Def - Umi Says is just a really chill song
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsihHoyqwWY

loser2000
Oct 7, 2008


Alright I just found something incredible while searching for Permanent Scars by Black Rob...

T.R.O.Y.: Philaflava.com's 100 Greatest Obscure Tracks:
http://philaflava.blogspot.com/2008...st-obscure.html

quote:

When 9 people come together and attempt to create a list of 100 tracks it isn’t an easy task. Collectively we brought over 350 nominations to the table but after much deliberation we finally came to an agreement. Unlike our previous lists we decided it would be best to leave this unranked. These tracks are great for their own reasons and we just wanted to make a list that represented the importance of the b-side, the significance of the remix and remind those of the self-satisfaction when finally laying your hands on that sought after gem.

You will see a few artists show up more than once and trust me there could have been several with a handful of worthy tracks such as The Artifacts, The Beatnuts, Mobb Deep and Money Boss Players. This list should serve as your guide into what we like to call the 100 Greatest Obscure Tracks. Use it to as a checklist and download these tracks (links below).

The advent of the Mp3 blog has been rather kind to us nostalgic completists/random rap collectors/aging b-boys. In the ‘90s we dreamt of the day that static-free versions of elusive cuts by Money Boss Players and Govna Matic would be rendered instantly accessible to all heads. But no matter how plentiful the online supply of uncovered or resurrected gems, we are fundamentally unable, even as a collective, to recreate the most memorable characteristics of the fan culture of our beloved bygone rap eras. In fact, every step we take to enshrine these gilded epochs for all eternity (including the effort you are currently browsing) leads to the rapid deterioration of the values and practices that partly defined the The Rap World As We Once Knew It.

In this past life of rap (which isn’t entirely over but hasn’t been quite the same since oh, about 1998) a particular brand of makeshift resourcefulness and soldierly patience that was manifested by the genre’s most revered artists was regularly displayed and honed by its most enthusiastic and caring fans. Rap wasn’t necessarily easy to come by, even though a continually wider spectrum of personalities and styles were made accessible through semi-mainstream outlets like Yo! MTV Raps and the Source Magazine that did a respectable if inevitably unsatisfying job covering the genre as a whole.

Searching for music from slept-on or up-and-coming artists was largely a localized, grass-roots hunt. Meaning, quite simply, that if you wanted to delve a bit deeper than Nas/Lauryn Hill collabos and Junior Mafia-esque tales of V.I.P. fuckery, you had to vacate the plush world of shiny compact discs and confront the grimy abyss of second-generation dubs of crackly after-hours college mixshows, where b-sides, demos, alternate takes, and songs that would be permanently cockblocked by industry politricks reigned supreme.

Nostalgic sentiments for this era of rap have often been dismissed as wistful elitism, a thirtysomething need to keep one’s treasures guarded while sneering at the ignorant masses. However, the “underground” rap culture of the ‘90s was defined less by elitism and more by a desire to subvert the system as a whole: you wanted to be the first kid in your high school to not only own the dub, but to distribute it. This lo-fi, grass-roots mentality paralleled both the DIY indie business philosophy and the musical aesthetic of the time. We opted for the sound of the low-budget environment, and because of that, listening to the rugged flows and hard beats of the time felt like being part of a genuine movement. Thus we present our selections for rap’s 100 Greatest Obscure Tracks.

this is like the greatest thing i've come upon on the internet, holy crap.

It's like every song I couldnt find on youtube is in this and better yet it's an awesome remix or something and so much more

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Big L - How Will I Make It
One of the very few pre-Lifestylez Ov Da Poor And Dangerous tracks that have surfaced after Big L’s untimely death. This demo was made available on the Harlems finest vinyl compilations, which were later released on CD. The intro sets the mood perfectly, while the basic and unpolished production are the perfect backdrop for Big L’s hard hitting lyrics. Big L, while known for his vicious punch lines, and braggadocios hardcore rhetoric, he was one of the better storytellers of his era and this track is an excellent example of how to utilize great imagery with a message of despair and anger.
This is the best song i've never heard til now, omg

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Black Rob - Permanent Scars
When I heard Black Rob on 112 ‘Come See Me’ remix in 1996 the first thing that stood out to me about him was his voice- it’s one of the most distinctive in hip hop. ‘Permanent Scars’ was originally intended for his second album The Black Rob Report but was taken off it as the beat on the track was used by Beanie Sigel on ‘Feel It In The Air. The melodic and sombre beat provided by Heavy D serves as the perfect backdrop for Rob’s storytelling rhymes: “Parole buggin/I’m tryin to be cakey/called the P.O./aight man gently caress it, violate me/I’m on the run now/ask a few niggas in the Bronx who to come to if you want a gun/fam I did it all with different schools of niggas/late night back hallway smoking whools with niggas.” Rob’s loose, almost conversational flow comes to life here as he paints a vivid picture of the struggles in his life. What makes this track stand out even more to me is that he does with the raw emotion in his voice more than with anything he actually says
song I was looking for, amazing description

quote:

Mobb Deep - Cop Hell
One of Mobb Deeps earliest recordings originally dating back to 1992, this DJ Premier produced track was done when Havoc and Prodigy were just 16 years old and was original intended for there Juvenile Hell album which it did not make it onto for obvious reasons. Over a hard and stripped down mid tempo Premier banger, Hav and P cause a bloodbath massacring the whole NYPD! Mobb Deep sound demented and ready to go to hell for snuffing Jesus on this one, a very far cry from there more recent efforts. This track was only ever available as a test pressing 12” of which there were no more than 10-20 copies. They have sold for around $1500, partly for the b-side unreleased DJ premier instrumentals, which legend has it he tried to mutilate with a razor so they would not get leaked.

Mobb Deep - First Day of Spring feat. Tragedy Khadafi
This song first came out in 1996 or 1997 and finally saw the light of day on the recent Mobb Deep Infamous Archives LP. The song is significant for a few reasons- it is part of a large body of work that The Mobb put out that never (until recently) saw the light of day while maintaining the classic sound of The Infamous and Hell On Earth era- before Murda Musik would mark the gradual decline of the group's output. Also, the track is technically a Mobb Deep track but the star of the show is QB stalwart Tragedy Khadafi. The beat is a simple head nodder and Tragedy rips into a really brutal verse with lines such as "Yous a half-way/ thug that you portray/ if you got locked up for a day, you prolly come home gay," and "When I was runnin' from cops you was practicing jump shots." Trag really does a bang-up job in illustrating the difference between thugs who live the life and fakes who live the life vicariously through the music. Yes, it's a topic that's been covered by many, but never quite as eloquently as Trag did it for us here. As mentioned earlier, Mobb Deep has a huge body of work that never saw the light of day that still could be regarded as classic status. It is certainly much better than what the crew is putting out on G-Unit. Luckily The Mobb recently put out The Infamous Archives. While this material isn't at all new to vinyl geeks and mixtape (emphasis on tape here) collectors, a lot of Mobb Deep fans who longed for the group's heyday never got a chance to hear this stuff and are ignoring the Infamous Archives release, expecting it to be more G Unit excrement. If you like this stuff go cop the album and then try to dig up the Mobb Deep "Infamous Demos," which are the rough studio versions of The Infamous that were later re-worked into the classic album we revere today.

There's almost too much good stuff in here that I haven't heard its like christmas.

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Kool G. Rap - Hey Mister
One day DJ Mike Nice was chilling out at Upstairs Records in Brooklyn and Dr. Butcher appeared out of nowhere with a stack of white labels in his hand. A couple weeks later a second pressing appeared at Mr. Bongos in London. This was right around the time The Kool Genius of Rap dropped his solo debut 4,5,6. G. Rap was known for his graphic story-telling. Drug deals gone bad, shoot outs with cops, talking like sex- he almost covered the full spectrum of extreme and explicit writing, almost. And then he wrote a song that no record label could ever release.

"Hey Mister Mister, what the gently caress you doin'?
Hey Mister Mister... KEEP WALKIN' PAST! Hey
mister mister, what the gently caress you doin? DON'T
INTERUPT ME WHILE I'm BEATING ON MY BITCH
rear end."

Yes, that's right folk; an ode to spousal abuse. The internet has led to this song becoming more and more well known but it really is quite obscure outside the confines of cyberspace. There were two pressings of this Dr. Butcher-produced white label. Remember the honky-tonk western vibe of "The Symphony," which G. Rap murked about a decade earlier- well think of a similar piano loop that is louder and angrier. Add in a little boy's voice being scratched-in, pleading for G. Rap's attention, a no-good bitch pilfering from G. Rap's hustle, and G. Rap hitting her "until her face gets bigger" and we have a real winner here folks. Not only did this deserve a commercial release, it also deserved a video complete with a bloodied-up Superhead. Ah the injustice! Well, at least I had "Hey Mister" played at my wedding reception.

Lord Finesse – Shorties Kaught In The System
Lord Finesse like his protégé Big L was mostly known for his wordplay and ability to make sucker MC’s duck for cover. Hell, he single-handedly dissected and annihilated the entire "Lords of the Underground" with one 2 minute freestyle. Shorties Kaught In The System is track depicting the urban life, of a young male, trapped in a cycle of crime and desperation, trying to survive in his environment. And the harsh reality is, songs like these are no longer a necessity, but are considered "out of left field" and "unconventional" when it should be the norm. Unfortunately the world is so cynical now, but this track stands the test of time, and is even more important today.

Mase - Drug Wars
Mase? That sucker that used to rap all those pretty boy, glossy cross-over tracks with that piranha P. Diddy? How'd he make the list? Well, simply Mase at one point was a loving BEAST! The Mase you see dancing around on your TV as a walking stereotype, or the televangelist swindling dollars out of helpless saps who actual follow his "Word of God" is totally opposite of the one that was once part of the best groups of the mid 90s. Murder Mase's Drug Wars is a verbal exercise in wit, rhyme schemes and adroitness penning that has only been matched by a few in that era. Mase spits one long verse giving details of his neighborhood's conditions, the NYC law enforcements corrupt ways and how he lives through it. A truly unparallel exposition by this once incredibly talented writer.

The Kool G Rap song is hilarious as hell, the Mase song is mind boggling, it doesn't sound like him at all, it's an endless flow just an amazing song, mind blown. People gotta check these out

loser2000 fucked around with this message at Feb 9, 2009 around 04:36

Terebus
Feb 17, 2007


One of my favorite Nas songs is from the Lost Tapes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GpPGD7_yRY
Nas - Purple

I love the beat and his flow just fits so well.

loser2000
Oct 7, 2008


Terebus posted:

One of my favorite Nas songs is from the Lost Tapes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GpPGD7_yRY
Nas - Purple

I love the beat and his flow just fits so well.

Just found the Illmatic promo video from a link from the site above
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MEp...feature=related
Really interesting listening to the producers talk about songs and captures the hype for that album.

Twlight
Feb 18, 2005

I brag about getting free drinks from my boss to make myself feel superior

I wouldn't call this super old but a great tune:

Hieroglyphics - Make Your Move

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTw1zjJHHQg

KidDynamite
Feb 11, 2005

No, Mr. Rice, I expect you to PLEASE WORK OUT


Lost Boyz- Renee

Amazing story telling. This song is just dope.

Seventeen-Five
Apr 27, 2008


People Under the Stairs: Acid Raindrops
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dr1kQDGgRk

Maybe not that deep, but solid beat and pretty slow flow. Makes me want to blaze, so I guess that counts as emotions?

TommyTheDent
Dec 29, 2004

by Tiny Fistpump


Black Moon - I Got Ya Opin: I felt like a huge badass listening to this on my turntables when I was like 15. Great song, group, Buckshot should be known as a huge hip-hop figurehead for reviving East Coast, but alas is not:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3H2...89F099E9B46F8C&

Rakim - Move The Crowd: Loved this poo poo. It's older than me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ponw0zownFA

Cypress Hill - How I Could Just Kill A Man: Great loving song.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d12EI3xNiqE

loser2000 posted:

Not southern and I don't even like them or listen to anything by them, but I like these 3 songs.

They are from Cleveland, Ohio by the way.

TommyTheDent fucked around with this message at Feb 9, 2009 around 06:45

adjective_noun
Jan 5, 2007

Antony played guitaaaaaaaaar!!

I'm just going to go on record saying that you need to give Hov a second chance. Forget everything you know about him and where he's gone and listen to Reasonable Doubt start to finish. It's my all time favorite hip-hop album, a borderline concept album about the insulation, paranoia, and isolation that go hand in hand with being a big player in the drug game. With the exception of Brooklyn's Finest (AMAZING song in it's own right) 22 twos (ditto) and Ain't No Nigga (a good, if not great jam) every song on the album sounds like the memoirs of a genuinely decent man who has sacrificed his soul for material comfort, and ultimately feels alone and remorseful. Really I could pick any track on the album, but the closing track "Regrets" pretty well summarizes the feel of the whole disc:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duUx...feature=related

Edited for spelling and grammar, I posted late last night and I was tired.

adjective_noun fucked around with this message at Feb 9, 2009 around 18:02

loser2000
Oct 7, 2008


adjective_noun posted:

I'm just going to go on record saying that you need to give Hov a second chance. Forget everything you know about him and where he's gone and listen to Reasonable Doubt start to finish. It's my all time favorite hip-hop album, it's a borderline concept album about the insulation, paranoia, and isolation that go hand in hand with being a big player in the drug game. With the exception of Brooklyn's Finest (AMAZING song in it's own right) 22 twos (ditto) and Ain't No Nigga (a good, if not great jam) every song on the album songs on the albums sounds like the memoirs of a genuinely decent man whose sacrificed his soul for material comfort, and ultimately feels alone and remorseful. Really I could pick any track on the album, but the closing track "Regrets" pretty well summarizes the feel of the whole album:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duUx...feature=related

Yea i'm changing my mind about Jay-z I was being ignorant.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTiqnZfH8d8

icicle bob
Mar 14, 2008

My name is Gato/I have metal joints/Beat me up/And earn fifteen silver points!

When one of my friends killed himself the other year one of my other mates started compulsively listening to that awful Puff Daddy track that he dedicated to Biggie with the Police sample. My dead mate was a massive metal head who hated black people. I just don't get it.

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Mummy Xzibit
May 6, 2003


I'll drink coffee.

Ahmad - Back in the Day

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