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Doc_Awesome
Mar 27, 2010


Painted my AR this evening. I like how it turned out. What do you guys think?





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kill me now
Sep 14, 2003

What part of "I'm a Cyborg" are you people still not getting exactly?


Looks great. Nice to see a painted AR that isn't sand colored.

Drav
Jul 23, 2002

Speed kills

Doc_Awesome posted:

Painted my AR this evening. I like how it turned out. What do you guys think?

YAY

Kung Fu Fist Fuck
Aug 9, 2009

They can't say no to my body, ufooo!


Painted guns only look cool when they've had a lot of hard use wear.

Diggie
Apr 6, 2008


Doc_Awesome posted:

Painted my AR this evening. I like how it turned out. What do you guys think?

What did you use to paint it? I really want to do a foliage green/black scheme on my AR15 and M&P9, but I don't really know where to begin. I've looked at Duracoat, but I hear Krylon is okay? Any advice, other than sanding/degreasing?

Doc_Awesome
Mar 27, 2010


Yep, just used krylon. I just degreased it before I painted it and then taped up the trigger and barrel and closed the dust cover. I used a base layer of tan and used strips of handi wipes in various patterns and sprayed on layers of brown, OD green, and a lighter green until I was satisfied. I might add some more brown or maybe some black to make it a bit darker

I like turtles
Aug 6, 2009

"Wouldn't want to see an angry turtle with a gun, would ya? "

Well...


I'm thinking about grabbing a couple AR lowers, what's the best quality cheap lowers available right now? I know Surplus Arms and Ammo and Aero Precision are both good, but they're OOS on AIM right now.

Diggie
Apr 6, 2008


Doc_Awesome posted:

Yep, just used krylon. I just degreased it before I painted it and then taped up the trigger and barrel and closed the dust cover. I used a base layer of tan and used strips of handi wipes in various patterns and sprayed on layers of brown, OD green, and a lighter green until I was satisfied. I might add some more brown or maybe some black to make it a bit darker

It looks really good. I think you may have pushed me over the edge and convinced me to go for it and do mine. Now just to wait for this awesome Alabama humidity to let up a bit so I can get good results.

Internet Wizard
Aug 9, 2009

Hope you don't mind if I just take a little rest here. Feel free to join me...

Yeah, watch out for humidity. If you cure it and it's too humid out, you'll end up with a rifle that is sticky in a weird way.

Doc_Awesome
Mar 27, 2010


Lunchboxx posted:

I've been looking for a set for months. I emailed Centurion in December and was told what basically boiled down to "we are making more just wait." The front has been available from Rainier for a while now and I've signed up for email alerts both from Rainier and Centurion, also since December.

Basically, let me know if you come across anyone that's got them?

Just got an email back from Centurion and the dude said "Yes, probably next week"

Lunchboxx
Jun 19, 2004

His name is Head. Dick Head.


Doc_Awesome posted:

Just got an email back from Centurion and the dude said "Yes, probably next week"

I want to believe...

Awesome if true, but also HORRIBLE timing for me, money wise at least. gently caress.

Doc_Awesome
Mar 27, 2010


Lunchboxx posted:

I want to believe...

Awesome if true, but also HORRIBLE timing for me, money wise at least. gently caress.

Well, if it's true then I'll pick some up and you can live vicariously through me.

Atticus_1354
Dec 9, 2006

Don't you go near that dog, you understand? Don't go near him, he's just as dangerous dead as alive.


Doc_Awesome posted:

Painted my AR this evening. I like how it turned out. What do you guys think?


I like it. If you want it darker you can lightly dust it with brown. I would avoid using black.

kill me now posted:

Looks great. Nice to see a painted AR that isn't sand colored.

Why you got to be a hater?

Ceros_X
Aug 6, 2006

US Marine


Not an AR but I really like this camo job:

sky shark
Jun 9, 2004
WALKING ARGUMENT FOR GUN CONTROL

I masturbate to Matthew Bracken books and long to kill black people. Also I leave guns laying around for criminals to steal.

Ceros_X posted:

Not an AR but I really like this camo job:



That's a sweetass galil

Ninja Rope
Oct 22, 2005

Wee.


Did Spikes stop making 22lr uppers? I've been considering one but I'm not sure who is good any more. It seems they were all the rage for a while and not so much any more? I mostly want one to shoot at indoor ranges that don't allow .223 and they seem cheaper/more reliable than a 9mm (plus no loving maglocks).

I like turtles posted:

I'm thinking about grabbing a couple AR lowers, what's the best quality cheap lowers available right now? I know Surplus Arms and Ammo and Aero Precision are both good, but they're OOS on AIM right now.

PSA seems alright and their lowers are only $80.

wkarma
Jul 16, 2010


Ninja Rope posted:

Did Spikes stop making 22lr uppers? I've been considering one but I'm not sure who is good any more. It seems they were all the rage for a while and not so much any more? I mostly want one to shoot at indoor ranges that don't allow .223 and they seem cheaper/more reliable than a 9mm (plus no loving maglocks).


PSA seems alright and their lowers are only $80.

Yes, spikes no longer makes .22 uppers.

Get a CMMG.

DeesGrandpa
Oct 21, 2009

Probably like King Nazi


Just traded my beater 14.5 inch barrel for a slickside surplus Colt M16A1 barreled upper. Can't shake the retro.

Uncle Caveman
Jun 16, 2006



I'm reeeeally liking this setup with the IWC mount instead of having the light at 12:00

Oxford Comma
Jun 26, 2011



Can a 6.5 Grendel upper be used on a regular 5.56 receiver?

Mad Dragon
Feb 29, 2004



Oxford Comma posted:

Can a 6.5 Grendel upper be used on a regular 5.56 receiver?

Yes.

Oxford Comma
Jun 26, 2011




Is a Grendel AR the best way to change my AR from a pew pew pew gun to being able to snipe gnats from miles away?

Mad Dragon
Feb 29, 2004



THREE HUNDRED BLACKOUT



jk 6.5 is great for long range stuff.

Drav
Jul 23, 2002

Speed kills

Mad Dragon posted:

jk 6.5 is great for long range stuff.

At what range(s) does 6.5 start to noticeably outperform 5.56? 300 yards? 500?

In other words, at what point is it "worth it" to opt for 6.5?

Action Jesus
Jun 18, 2002



Drav posted:

At what range(s) does 6.5 start to noticeably outperform 5.56? 300 yards? 500?

In other words, at what point is it "worth it" to opt for 6.5?

It would also be interesting to note at what range the 6.5 grendel is then outperformed by one of the longer 6.5 cartridges like 6.5x55 or .260 rem.

Ninja Rope
Oct 22, 2005

Wee.


I imagine JBM Ballistics can help you figure that out, but it depends on what you require. It's pretty easy to figure out when each goes transonic, but if you're looking for a specific BC, velocity, or energy...

BraveUlysses
Aug 7, 2002


Ok, sold my lovely diamondhead sights and now I'm looking a a set of fixed or flip sights to replace them. I'm planning on getting an aimpoint micro h-1 (unless I should be talked out of it).

Daniel defense a1.5 fixed front and rears look pretty good for just over $110. Thoughts?

denereal visease
Nov 27, 2002

*denereal visease

While we're on the subject, are these Troy flip-ups seriously worth almost $300? It's going to be foreeeverrrr until I can afford an AR

Ninja Rope
Oct 22, 2005

Wee.


denereal visease posted:

While we're on the subject, are these Troy flip-ups seriously worth almost $300? It's going to be foreeeverrrr until I can afford an AR

Do you need BUIS? Do you need ones with tritium in them? Do you need ones that are made for not-AR15 height rails? If you answered yes to all of those questions, then those sights are pretty good.

Cyrano4747
Sep 25, 2006

American planes, full of holes and wounded men, took off backwards from an airfield in England. Over France, a few German fighter planes flew at them backwards, sucked bullets and shell fragments from some of the planes and crewmen. They did the same for wrecked American bombers on the ground.

denereal visease posted:

While we're on the subject, are these Troy flip-ups seriously worth almost $300? It's going to be foreeeverrrr until I can afford an AR

Don't try to do your whole build all at once. It might cost a bit more in the long run, but if you resell parts as you replace them with what you really want, you can get a really reasonable starter AR and then kit it out as you get money. THe upside to this is that you'll have a gun to shoot while you're still putting it together.

The last time I priced this poo poo out you could get a very reasonable bare-bones carbine for something like $700-800 if you went cheap on the furniture and sights. We're talking finding a used A2 stock and extension/buffer, whatever used grip you can find, used handguards, and the cheapest carry handle you can find (possibly airsoft grade crap). That will give you a base gun you can gently caress around with until you save up enough for the sights, stock, etc. you want, at which point you can resell all that other cheap crap for 60-70% of what you paid for it.

Yes it will cost a bit more in the long run, but I personally think it's worth it to be able to dick around with your rifle sooner rather than later.

Uncle Caveman
Jun 16, 2006



BraveUlysses posted:

Daniel defense a1.5 fixed front and rears look pretty good for just over $110. Thoughts?
DD sights are baller if you don't need them to fold. FWIW fixed sights don't really get in the way of a red dot in a lower-third mount so as long as you don't plan to use a scope or magnifier, I think they're the best choice.

infrared35
Jan 12, 2005



Local Walmart has not only the SIG AR "Hunter" rifle for $917, now they have a Remington M4 for $897, and a Colt M4 for $1097.

kill me now
Sep 14, 2003

What part of "I'm a Cyborg" are you people still not getting exactly?


denereal visease posted:

While we're on the subject, are these Troy flip-ups seriously worth almost $300? It's going to be foreeeverrrr until I can afford an AR

Those are not for a standard AR anyway. They're for a gun like the HK416 which have a higher top rail.

But yes, Troy folders are some of the best ones out there. You can save your self some cash by getting the non tritium ones unless you really need that.

Yudo
May 15, 2003

I create

So I just assembled a lower that I managed to scratch the poo poo out of. I don't really care about the aesthetics that much, but lets say I wanted to improve its marred surface: do people here have a bake on coating they recommend or do they just spray paint it?

Yudo fucked around with this message at Jun 18, 2012 around 07:30

Monitor Burn
Nov 29, 2001
No clever to be found here

Yudo posted:

So I just assembled a lower that I managed to scratch the poo poo out of. I don't really care about the aesthetics that much, but lets say I wanted to improve its marred surface: do people here have a bake on coating they recommend or do they just spray paint it?

I usually use a sharpie to cover up my idiot marks tier 1 battle damage on ARs

gimpsuitjones
Mar 27, 2007

What are you lookin at...

10.5"-12" second upper w/can. Talk me into a .300 AAC or a .223.

Going to have an 'SBR' upper with super short barrel + can, DD quad rail, Aimpoint T1, and a second upper as a lightweight 16" .223 (or 6.5 Grendel, if I can get the parts) unsuppressed with Troy tube and NF 2.5-10x24.


Positives for .223:
-I can get a 1:7" 10.5" barrel for mad cheap from a hookup.
-I already have a suitable can
-Ammo is easy and cheap and common between both uppers if (I can't get Grendel parts). No forming/trimming brass, just shoot bulk steel cased.

Negatives for .223:
-Not very good for killing things from a 10.5" barrel.
- I'd have to build the upper myself if I got the cheap barrel I've been offered.

Positives for .300 AAC:
-I can just get a complete upper already built.
- Should be better for killing things from a short barrel out as far as I'm likely to shoot with a 12" barrel and a dot sight.
-Might suppress slightly better due to lower muzzle pressure due to better efficiency.

Negatives for .300 AAC:
- "hahahaha": the likelihood of getting cheap factory loads in NZ
- poo poo I spent 3 hours forming and trimming that brass and then I lost it in the grass on the first firing.
- Might not kill very well anyway due to low velocities.
- Bullets still cost more, even to hand load.
- Don't have a suitable suppressor already. (Although I can use my .223 one elsewhere and need to get another anyway.)


Does the BATTLECOMP work as far as "not being uncomfortable as all hell to be around?"

I want some Grendel parts!!!! That would solve the whole problem sort of.

moosepoop
Mar 9, 2007



gimpsuitjones posted:

10.5"-12" second upper w/can. Talk me into a .300 AAC or a .223.

Going to have an 'SBR' upper with super short barrel + can, DD quad rail, Aimpoint T1, and a second upper as a lightweight 16" .223 (or 6.5 Grendel, if I can get the parts) unsuppressed with Troy tube and NF 2.5-10x24.


Positives for .223:
-I can get a 1:7" 10.5" barrel for mad cheap from a hookup.
-I already have a suitable can
-Ammo is easy and cheap and common between both uppers if (I can't get Grendel parts). No forming/trimming brass, just shoot bulk steel cased.

Negatives for .223:
-Not very good for killing things from a 10.5" barrel.
- I'd have to build the upper myself if I got the cheap barrel I've been offered.

Positives for .300 AAC:
-I can just get a complete upper already built.
- Should be better for killing things from a short barrel out as far as I'm likely to shoot with a 12" barrel and a dot sight.
-Might suppress slightly better due to lower muzzle pressure due to better efficiency.

Negatives for .300 AAC:
- "hahahaha": the likelihood of getting cheap factory loads in NZ
- poo poo I spent 3 hours forming and trimming that brass and then I lost it in the grass on the first firing.
- Might not kill very well anyway due to low velocities.
- Bullets still cost more, even to hand load.
- Don't have a suitable suppressor already. (Although I can use my .223 one elsewhere and need to get another anyway.)


Does the BATTLECOMP work as far as "not being uncomfortable as all hell to be around?"

I want some Grendel parts!!!! That would solve the whole problem sort of.

Buy both!

Interrupt
Mar 30, 2010


I love summer.



Don't know where to go from here. Have been pricing out a light to put on the front, but I'm not too keen on adding more weight to it. One of those red dot magnifiers from PA could also be neat, when paired with a flip mount.

Craptacular
Jul 11, 2004

I have the 50th and Final Pony Av!

Get a brass catcher.

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MazeOfTzeentch
May 2, 2009

since we're talking
about primaries


Just got my replacement red dot from Primary Arms.

Their customer service is top-notch. They stuck with me during a move, waiting to ship the replacement until I gave them my new address. My original dot, the MD-06 (removable base model), got water on the inside from a particularly soggy range trip, and the mount would no longer stay closed. I sent them my dot for refurb/replace, and they opted to replace it.

I received a phone call from Brett last week, informing me that they were out of the mount that I used, but would have it in a week or two, and gave me the option to upgrade to the American Defense mount, which were coming into stock the next day, so I could get it earlier. I declined, and he asked if I wanted the dot when it came in, before the mount would arrive. I said yes, and it arrived a few days later.

It was the MD-10 model, the 4th gen micro dot, with the killflash threading. I didn't think much of it at the time, until I unboxed it again to mess with it, and a killflash popped out. In addition to replacing my dot with a newer one, and shipping me the dot before the mount came in, they also included a killflash for no charge.

PA dots might not be the best dots in the world, but their customer service is some of the best in the industry.

e/ I just looked online, and the MD-10 isn't even listed on their site yet, just the MD-08

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