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sky shark
Jun 9, 2004
WALKING ARGUMENT FOR GUN CONTROL

I masturbate to Matthew Bracken books and long to kill black people. Also I leave guns laying around for criminals to steal.

Electro-optical sights have a couple different choices in varying sizes

Full size: EOtech, Aimpoint, Insight Technologies ISM, Leupold whatever, Elcan (AVOID AT ALL COSTS)

I've used the EOTech, Aimpoint and Insight Technologies ISM. I prefer the EOTech simply because of the giant 65MOA ring around the 1moa dot, but the Aimpoint wins for battery life. ISM is a gimmick, unless you are MIL / LE and have access to the IR laser model (you aren't, so avoid it). Aimpoint is the overall choice for combat red dots for the US Military; the SF guys like the EOTechs.

Mini: Aimpoint T1, Doctor / Trijicon Red Dot, Burris, Jpoint


All of these, IIRC, use the same style watch batteries - CR2032 or CR2016. The T1 is the hands down best of all these, but it's loving EXPENSIVE AS HELL. If you can afford it, get it. Otherwise, there's nothing wrong with a Burris or Jpoint for a beater red dot.

Personally, I like my ACOGs. I haven't had a chance to work with the FTS magnifiers on the Aimpoint or EOTech yet, so I can't compare.

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sky shark
Jun 9, 2004
WALKING ARGUMENT FOR GUN CONTROL

I masturbate to Matthew Bracken books and long to kill black people. Also I leave guns laying around for criminals to steal.

wilfoy posted:

What's the verdict on the Trijicon Tri-Power?

My buddy has one and he says the reticle washes out in bright sunlight, but his is amber. Red reticles may have fixed this problem

sky shark
Jun 9, 2004
WALKING ARGUMENT FOR GUN CONTROL

I masturbate to Matthew Bracken books and long to kill black people. Also I leave guns laying around for criminals to steal.

datamaggot posted:

I have been looking at the 516.A65 for a 10.5" 9mm AR project. ...not sure if I should do it or not.
Personally I like the 517 better but I have both in stock.

sky shark
Jun 9, 2004
WALKING ARGUMENT FOR GUN CONTROL

I masturbate to Matthew Bracken books and long to kill black people. Also I leave guns laying around for criminals to steal.

Skyssx posted:

But the FNC is like the aborted fetus brother to the SCAR, and we know how much you love those.

There ain't nothing wrong with the FNC. It's been in use for decades around the world, uses the same AR magazines, and works like a champ. It's maligned by people who don't know better and unpopular simply because of bad timing - the registry closing & import ban before thousands could make it in.

sky shark
Jun 9, 2004
WALKING ARGUMENT FOR GUN CONTROL

I masturbate to Matthew Bracken books and long to kill black people. Also I leave guns laying around for criminals to steal.

What light is that?

sky shark
Jun 9, 2004
WALKING ARGUMENT FOR GUN CONTROL

I masturbate to Matthew Bracken books and long to kill black people. Also I leave guns laying around for criminals to steal.

I'm debating buying a lefty AR upper because I'm lefty and I'm shooting suppressed all the time now.

IS THIS A GOOD IDEA TFR?!?!??!

sky shark
Jun 9, 2004
WALKING ARGUMENT FOR GUN CONTROL

I masturbate to Matthew Bracken books and long to kill black people. Also I leave guns laying around for criminals to steal.

Fifty Three posted:

Is there a problem with a rail system coming close to the muzzle? Like, say I did an SBR in the future and put an 11" rail on a 12" barrel...

Only if you are doing some reflex suppressor that needs clearance.

sky shark
Jun 9, 2004
WALKING ARGUMENT FOR GUN CONTROL

I masturbate to Matthew Bracken books and long to kill black people. Also I leave guns laying around for criminals to steal.

datamaggot posted:

So, after the long wait, it's ciao to hearing protection (30-cal):



Click here for the full 900x675 image.


Fixed for you

sky shark
Jun 9, 2004
WALKING ARGUMENT FOR GUN CONTROL

I masturbate to Matthew Bracken books and long to kill black people. Also I leave guns laying around for criminals to steal.

I have all that Inforce stuff in stock, FYI. It's pretty cool because your pocket flashlight turns into a weapon light with a "rock-in" mount and a tape switch. From what I've played with in the store, I'm pretty impressed - it's the equivalent of a SureFire G2 with a pocket clip, just made from injection molded Carbon Fiber instead of Nitrolon.

sky shark
Jun 9, 2004
WALKING ARGUMENT FOR GUN CONTROL

I masturbate to Matthew Bracken books and long to kill black people. Also I leave guns laying around for criminals to steal.

Can you clear coat aluminum?

sky shark
Jun 9, 2004
WALKING ARGUMENT FOR GUN CONTROL

I masturbate to Matthew Bracken books and long to kill black people. Also I leave guns laying around for criminals to steal.

ShaiHulud posted:

I'm not sure who's misreading what, and I wasn't aware there was an "OMFG TOLLERANCES" crew, my point is that a bake on no-buildup finish would be superior to say, clear Krylon in response to sky shark. Since sky shark did not mention his intended application, I felt it worth pointing out that my finish of choice does not build up. If one wanted to remove the anodized finish from say, a BMW factory piston head, you're removing more than enough material to deviate from design spec. Paint sucks - it does not penetrate the surface of the metal, provides little if any wear resistance, and is easily softened by the same solvents you'd use to clean your firearm.

Stripping hard anodizing from aluminum, whether its done with a bead blaster or phosphoric acid, removes about 2 thousandths of an inch - not remove enough material to prevent the lower parts from being installed properly, but anodizing is more than a surface finish. Wear resistance is a good thing, and removing hard anodizing will lead to hole enlargement. This is the reason that old musket parts were case-hardened, and AK receiver holes are heat-treated.
I meant in response to Mr Mirror Finish AR15, to preserve the mirror finish. Because that would be awesome.

sky shark
Jun 9, 2004
WALKING ARGUMENT FOR GUN CONTROL

I masturbate to Matthew Bracken books and long to kill black people. Also I leave guns laying around for criminals to steal.

RU 187 261 LIB posted:

If I want to use an AR for home defense, what should I be looking at in a forend? I guess one of the high-end builders with a free-float quad-rail but drat after optics and irons and light thats near 3 grand on an AR. Far cry from my $200 870, haha.

All you need is the rifle and a light, and possibly a mini red dot. You don't need tons of rails and various other crap. Get yourself a Burris or Trijicon MRD or Aimpoint Micro T1 (your wallet can dictate)... and if you want, an Inova INFORCE + mount, or SureFire G2 & mount. That's it. Spend the rest of your money on ammo & training.

sky shark
Jun 9, 2004
WALKING ARGUMENT FOR GUN CONTROL

I masturbate to Matthew Bracken books and long to kill black people. Also I leave guns laying around for criminals to steal.

RU 187 261 LIB posted:

I can laugh at the shitfest that thread became but I still don't have a good reason not to use a bayonet except that the DA would ram it all the way up my rear end.

I can't believe you are actually this loving stupid. Here's a good reason - because you are in confined spaces you loving moron. If you can't work out why 7+ inches of bayonet might be a dumb idea in a hallway that you are going to have to swivel & maneuver in, I don't know what to tell you.

Here's another good reason - it's blatantly obvious that this is loving stupid, which is why no one anywhere advocates one for civilians.

I know I bitchslapped the poo poo out of you regarding this topic the last time it came up, but I'm still waiting on you to provide me a single firearms training center that actually advocates using a bayonet on a home defense shotgun or rifle.

Otherwise, stop posting this horseshit.

sky shark
Jun 9, 2004
WALKING ARGUMENT FOR GUN CONTROL

I masturbate to Matthew Bracken books and long to kill black people. Also I leave guns laying around for criminals to steal.

Black Stormy posted:

Having owned both an EOTech and a CompM3, I think the Aimpoint is a much better optic. My eotech was absolute cowitness and it gave me a headache. The buttons being on the back were a pain in the rear end. I also don't like the 65MOA circle around the dot on the eotech.

The Aimpoint is lower 1/3rd cowitness, has a far, far superior battery life, and the actual dot is easier to focus on due to not having a huge circle around it.
whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat

dude the 65 moa ring is so that you can actually get hits on target faster. If you are never, ever, ever, ever, ever going to use this outside of benchresting, ok, but the EOTech is awesome for quick pickup in any kind of action shooting.

sky shark
Jun 9, 2004
WALKING ARGUMENT FOR GUN CONTROL

I masturbate to Matthew Bracken books and long to kill black people. Also I leave guns laying around for criminals to steal.

Elendil004 posted:

Thoughts on a readymag system (which holds a spare mag on the gun) vs just electrical taping two mags to each other?

What's that little lever that lets you hit the bolt release from the right side with your trigger finger called?

I'm not a huge fan of the extra weight, plus I'm lefty so it is kinda goofy for me.

That said, never ever EVER clamp your mags together.

Ever.

sky shark
Jun 9, 2004
WALKING ARGUMENT FOR GUN CONTROL

I masturbate to Matthew Bracken books and long to kill black people. Also I leave guns laying around for criminals to steal.

LavistaSays posted:

Unless you plan on actually using your expensive Red Dot Sight on anything with home-defense purposes: good luck turning your Eotech on at 5:46 in the morning when all of your shits getting jacked.

When I bought my Eotech I had no idea it automatically shut off and when I found that out I was way annoyed and ultimately sold the thing, for my uses it was like just having iron sights anyway, so I took the RDS off and just kept the irons. My next RDS is going to be an Aimpoint, probably a T/H-1

You are kidding, right? Grab rifle, load magazine, turn on sight, GO LOUD DROP TANGOS is too much for you? It takes less time than putting on the sling!

sky shark
Jun 9, 2004
WALKING ARGUMENT FOR GUN CONTROL

I masturbate to Matthew Bracken books and long to kill black people. Also I leave guns laying around for criminals to steal.

Pitch posted:

Well, in the context of being an airsoft recreation of an anime gun it's quite real.

I'm amazed that people aren't making shells for popular weapons to "anime" them up.

sky shark
Jun 9, 2004
WALKING ARGUMENT FOR GUN CONTROL

I masturbate to Matthew Bracken books and long to kill black people. Also I leave guns laying around for criminals to steal.

LavistaSays posted:

when it comes to protecting myself, my loved ones, and my X-box, I want everything to be a point-and-click situation. It's bad enough that I have to fetch the thing from my closet and load a magazine.

If things are really so bad that somebody needs to be (potentially) shot inside your house, do you really want to bet your life that you'll have time to turn on and adjust your Eotech to the appropriate setting?

Aimpoints stay on for several years at a useable setting. If you shoot/train with an RDS on the range you're not doing yourself any favors if your home defense rifle defaults back to it's Iron sights after 8 hours.
So... just to make this absolutely clear... You are going to take the time to load a magazine into your rifle, your magazine is all the way seated, your bolt has moved forward, chambered a round and closed properly, but turning on the loving sight is somehow a step that is insanely complicated... when it involves pushing a button?

sky shark
Jun 9, 2004
WALKING ARGUMENT FOR GUN CONTROL

I masturbate to Matthew Bracken books and long to kill black people. Also I leave guns laying around for criminals to steal.

LavistaSays posted:

That any of you guys think you're going to have the time, or clarity of mind to turn on and adjust a red dot sight while you're poo poo terrified for your life, hopped up on adrenaline, clutching a rifle is a bit of a shock to me.

Don't you guys understand that in a highp-stress environment easy things like turning on an Eotech stop being so easy with adrenaline, and loss of fine motor skills?

To answer your question, no. In that situation my #1 priority is probably going to be hiding in my room covering the doorway with said gun... not loving with the on/off switch on my scope. Have you owned an Eotech? the default brightness is pretty pathetic and I need to hit the button a bunch of times to get something meaningful.

Actually, I've got 2 EOtechs (besides the 40 I have in stock at the store), 2 Aimpoint M4 (I stock them too), an Aimpoint T-1, an Insight ISM-V, a Doctor Optic, a PVS-14, and some other miscellaneous electro-optic crap that I've used in the past. Last few times the dog has charged down the stairs barking his rear end off, I had no problem rolling out of bed and making sure my long gun was functional... then again, I'm not one of those people who drinks himself into a stupor every night. I actually bother to familiarize myself with my equipment. Of all of them, the only one I wouldn't want to gently caress with in the middle of the night is the ISM-V, simply because it's a lot more complicated than I prefer.

If turning on your sight is going to be too much for you, however will you manage to turn on the lights, button your pants, or call 911?

sky shark fucked around with this message at Jul 22, 2009 around 01:45

sky shark
Jun 9, 2004
WALKING ARGUMENT FOR GUN CONTROL

I masturbate to Matthew Bracken books and long to kill black people. Also I leave guns laying around for criminals to steal.

TenementFunster posted:

you leave your weaponlight on all the time too, right?

OR DO YOU WANT YOUR FAMILY TO BE KILLED AND ALL YOUR "poo poo JACKED"??

LISTEN MAN, WHEN IT'S 3:76 IN THE MORNING AND YOU HAVE THE FEELING TIME JUST SLOOOOOOOOOOWS DOWN. BECAUSE OF THIS "TIME DILATION EFFECT" YOUR EYES WILL OPEN WIDER AND ALLOW YOU TO PERCEIVE AMBIENT IR & UV RADIATION, NEGATING THE NEED FOR A WEAPON LIGHT. True Operators Roll With FLIR

sky shark
Jun 9, 2004
WALKING ARGUMENT FOR GUN CONTROL

I masturbate to Matthew Bracken books and long to kill black people. Also I leave guns laying around for criminals to steal.

Ah, there's your problem. You put GET GUN -> LOAD GUN behind GET PHONE -> CALL 911

Common mistake. See, you've hosed up your observation-orientation-decision-action loop by putting "call cops" ahead of "make sure you are alive when they get there". Calling the cops is saved for after you've armed yourself properly. Preferably it's done by someone else, so you aren't juggling the phone while holding your longarm.


EDIT: Where's the "any" button? OH GOD I'M GONNA DIEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/

sky shark fucked around with this message at Jul 22, 2009 around 03:05

sky shark
Jun 9, 2004
WALKING ARGUMENT FOR GUN CONTROL

I masturbate to Matthew Bracken books and long to kill black people. Also I leave guns laying around for criminals to steal.

mrbill posted:

When my wife passed away a month ago, when I found her in the bathtub I ran across the street, fully naked, to get a neighbor/friend. Modesty was not the first thing on my mind at that point. And I'm a fat guy.

It wasn't until the paramedics had come (and left) and after I gave my statement to the police that I said "Uhm, officers, I need to put some clothes on, can you excuse me for a moment?"

(I'd told them that I had guns in the house, and where they were, and the guy said "Well just don't pick them up and come at us with them and you'll be fine").

Sorry for your loss duder

sky shark
Jun 9, 2004
WALKING ARGUMENT FOR GUN CONTROL

I masturbate to Matthew Bracken books and long to kill black people. Also I leave guns laying around for criminals to steal.

Foehammer posted:


I put 10 shots in a 2" group today at 100 yards with Federal bulk and an EOTech on my 16" bbl Stag. Used PMag as a monopod from seated.
Omg it didn't turn off and kill you in your sleep?!?!?!?!?! It'll END your Life during A HOME INVASION!!!!!!

sky shark
Jun 9, 2004
WALKING ARGUMENT FOR GUN CONTROL

I masturbate to Matthew Bracken books and long to kill black people. Also I leave guns laying around for criminals to steal.

Sgt. Shaved Balls posted:

Probably an Eotech 512, I don't think I can jump for anything fancier really. I was gonna buy a crazy expensive Eotech but I bought a gun instead. vv

Unless someone has suggestions in that same price range.

Guess who has 512 and XPS models in stock?

sky shark
Jun 9, 2004
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I masturbate to Matthew Bracken books and long to kill black people. Also I leave guns laying around for criminals to steal.

Dr. Video Games 0126 posted:

whats your opinion on the XPS

"About time" sums it up. Single 123A battery, can be mounted over the delta ring (unlike the previous 123A models), smallest footprint yet. Only gripe is that buttons are on the back, I don't know why they even make models with them on the back anymore; and that the battery compartment cover is difficult to get off (I'm sure someone will make a large grip aftermarket replacement).

sky shark
Jun 9, 2004
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I masturbate to Matthew Bracken books and long to kill black people. Also I leave guns laying around for criminals to steal.

Foehammer posted:

Doubt it, it's the easiest way to mount a lot of different quick-detach stuff that can then be moved around between different guns or rearranged to suit the current user. Plus they look pretty sexy.
Until something else comes out that's more effective, they are here to stay. I think we'll see more monolithic rail variants before we see rails go away.

Foehammer posted:

P.S. Does 1SKS have a goon discount? A Benchmade 585 is calling out to me
Yes, and yes. I believe I have them in stock too.

sky shark
Jun 9, 2004
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I masturbate to Matthew Bracken books and long to kill black people. Also I leave guns laying around for criminals to steal.

Lord Commissar posted:

Is there a code to use for the discount? My nephew has been lusting for a knife, and I might gift one to him....

Mention you are a goon and a Raul Julia line from any movie he's been in.

sky shark
Jun 9, 2004
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I masturbate to Matthew Bracken books and long to kill black people. Also I leave guns laying around for criminals to steal.

Sgt. Shaved Balls posted:

Somebody show me a cool vertical grip and some other poo poo for rails.

I'm so loving bored

Don't forget the new and high speed KAC grip stop.

sky shark
Jun 9, 2004
WALKING ARGUMENT FOR GUN CONTROL

I masturbate to Matthew Bracken books and long to kill black people. Also I leave guns laying around for criminals to steal.

Dr. Video Games 0126 posted:

PEQ-2s are hard to find, around $2000 when found, and if they break they can't be fixed

they are still pretty awesome if you ever get NVGs


mounting your NV to your eotech/aimpoint is retarded anyway since you'll probably end up flagging everything unless you're intending to just sit and shoot in one spot and even then its kind of questionable

as mentioned earlier, IR lasers are hard to find but are the way to go

i'm kind of sad the IWAL-2 is no long sold, it was $500 and seemed kind of durable, it was about the size of a peq-15

Some dude on ARF was selling ATPIALs for 3k a piece a little bit ago. I need to buy one the next go round.

I was screwing around at the shop today and took a photo of the XPS2-0 so a customer could see what it looks like:

(my hosting)

Plenty of room for a flip to side magnifier.

sky shark
Jun 9, 2004
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I masturbate to Matthew Bracken books and long to kill black people. Also I leave guns laying around for criminals to steal.

Capn Beeb posted:

Anyone have an idea when Magpul is going to release their ACS stock?

I think I saw a post on ARF saying they are out now. I could be wrong.

sky shark
Jun 9, 2004
WALKING ARGUMENT FOR GUN CONTROL

I masturbate to Matthew Bracken books and long to kill black people. Also I leave guns laying around for criminals to steal.

Fifty Three posted:

Fuuuuck. I never meant to doubt you, Gtab. I must not've been here for that.

It was my MP5 thread where the focus was "supposed" to be my integrally suppressed Mark II.

Gimmick was further run into the ground with my thread showing off my Arsenal 106 -> Tromix Saiga 12 -> M16

sky shark
Jun 9, 2004
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I masturbate to Matthew Bracken books and long to kill black people. Also I leave guns laying around for criminals to steal.

What does this Magpul BAD offer that the other alternatives on the market don't?

sky shark
Jun 9, 2004
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I masturbate to Matthew Bracken books and long to kill black people. Also I leave guns laying around for criminals to steal.

TenementFunster posted:

okay so yes the BAD was designed so that the shooter would PUT HIS OR HER TRIGGER FINGER THROUGH THE loving TRIGGER GUARD to release the bolt



bravo, magpul.

fixed 4u

look how dumb u are
http://s294.photobucket.com/albums/...rent=BADmp1.flv

u dumb

sky shark
Jun 9, 2004
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There needs to be something similar for lefties. Finger extension vs axial movement though...

EDIT: NM, lefty can use right hand to release BAD after reload.

sky shark
Jun 9, 2004
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I masturbate to Matthew Bracken books and long to kill black people. Also I leave guns laying around for criminals to steal.

* pulls M16 out of safe *
* decides he has a short index finger *
* weeps *

sky shark
Jun 9, 2004
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I masturbate to Matthew Bracken books and long to kill black people. Also I leave guns laying around for criminals to steal.

Craptacular posted:

I just got two Magpul ACSes to replace two CTRs I sold. So far I'm very impressed. IMO the cheek weld is better even than on the UBR. The UBR is more flat on top whereas the ACS has a more pronounced curve on top with flatter sides. The UBR has a bigger main storage compartment than the ACS, but the ACS has the sidemounted battery compartments. Also, the ACS is ~$120 cheaper and that's if you can even find a UBR. As for the CTR, getting the ACS over a CTR is a no-brainer. The only advantage with the CTR is if you wanted to save a little weight.

How does it compare to the SOPMOD

sky shark
Jun 9, 2004
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I masturbate to Matthew Bracken books and long to kill black people. Also I leave guns laying around for criminals to steal.

Pitch posted:


To be honest I wonder if they're lying about the whole thing. They don't provide any pictures larger than 400 pixels but you can still tell that their receivers all have the same telltale centerline finish issues as forged.

That centerline issue could just be where they flip it for machining on the reverse side.

Regardless, if I was buying a billet lower I'd want it to have certain things that forged ones don't, such as a flared magwell & oversized trigger guard, checkering, QD swivel points, etc. That's an advantage, though not enough of one to pay an extra couple hundred.

sky shark
Jun 9, 2004
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I masturbate to Matthew Bracken books and long to kill black people. Also I leave guns laying around for criminals to steal.

Pitch posted:

Very possible, but for instance Magpul's billet lowers don't appear to have that in any of the very high-res close-up pictures whereas for Hughes it's obvious in every badly-resized 400-pixel shot. Maybe they're just skimping on a certain amount of finishing that comes standard with the pricier billet lowers.
Or they may have it set up a different way for other reasons. Who knows, maybe he likes a bit of an edge on the front of his magwell... though I have no idea why. It's not like it's any more difficult to make it completely flat. Maybe someone should ask for higher resolution photos.

sky shark
Jun 9, 2004
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I masturbate to Matthew Bracken books and long to kill black people. Also I leave guns laying around for criminals to steal.

Pitch posted:

... What are you even looking at? The company is not leaving flash inside the trigger guard and under the pistol grip because the designer liked it better that way.

http://hughesprecision.com/Hughes_P.../Receivers.html

It looks like there's been a machining pass or two to (possibly) remove the casting flash but it could also just be over polishing done from extra tool passes in that area before the receiver is flipped in the jigs. I don't know, so I can't say. 400 pixel out of focus cell phone pictures aren't great for detail. I'm not super impressed with what I do see.

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sky shark
Jun 9, 2004
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I masturbate to Matthew Bracken books and long to kill black people. Also I leave guns laying around for criminals to steal.

Nice Twilight 2000 mag

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