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Cyrano4747
Sep 25, 2006

American planes, full of holes and wounded men, took off backwards from an airfield in England. Over France, a few German fighter planes flew at them backwards, sucked bullets and shell fragments from some of the planes and crewmen. They did the same for wrecked American bombers on the ground.

Uncle Caveman posted:

Possibly-too-high starting bid aside, all it needs is a stamp and a stock.

Yeah, I'm really not seeing what's wrong here.

Overpriced by a few hundred bucks at least, but welcome to Gunbroker.

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Roundboy
Oct 21, 2008


Wouldn't this depend on how that lower was registered ? once a pistol, always a pistol?

Pitch
Jun 16, 2005

It is a truth universally
acknowledged that an
oniichan in possession
of good fortune must be
in want of an imouto.


Roundboy posted:

Wouldn't this depend on how that lower was registered ? once a pistol, always a pistol?
No, that's what the stamp is for.

Roundboy
Oct 21, 2008


*sigh* these rules are very confusing, even though I come across them all the time.

I guess I meant to say tax stamp for SBR (10.5" barrel, needs a stock) or pistol (short barrel, no stock allowed).. but once the receiver is transfered like a pistol, it can't be magically transfered as a long gun (sbr or otherwise)

Cyrano4747
Sep 25, 2006

American planes, full of holes and wounded men, took off backwards from an airfield in England. Over France, a few German fighter planes flew at them backwards, sucked bullets and shell fragments from some of the planes and crewmen. They did the same for wrecked American bombers on the ground.

Roundboy posted:

*sigh* these rules are very confusing, even though I come across them all the time.

I guess I meant to say tax stamp for SBR (10.5" barrel, needs a stock) or pistol (short barrel, no stock allowed).. but once the receiver is transfered like a pistol, it can't be magically transfered as a long gun (sbr or otherwise)

You're thinking of the "once an MG always an MG" rule.

It's true that a pistol can't be transferred as a title I long gun, but you very certainly can SBR it and transfer it as a title II firearm - the long/short arm distinction doesn't even exist for those, which is why machine guns and the like don't also have to be registered as SBRs or whatever even if their OAL is under what would normally be permissible.

I like turtles
Aug 6, 2009

"Wouldn't want to see an angry turtle with a gun, would ya? "

Well...


Roundboy posted:

*sigh* these rules are very confusing, even though I come across them all the time.

I guess I meant to say tax stamp for SBR (10.5" barrel, needs a stock) or pistol (short barrel, no stock allowed).. but once the receiver is transfered like a pistol, it can't be magically transfered as a long gun (sbr or otherwise)

Once something is a title one rifle, it can't be made into a pistol, only an SBR.

A pistol can easily be transformed into an SBR with a form one. It, in practice, possible to tell the ATF you want to turn your SBR back into a pistol and have them remove it from their books, but that is pretty rare.

Naramyth
Jan 22, 2009

Your post is bad and you should feel bad.


Cyrano4747 posted:

Yeah, I'm really not seeing what's wrong here.

Overpriced by a few hundred bucks at least, but welcome to Gunbroker.

A2 upper on a pistol build.

Pitch
Jun 16, 2005

It is a truth universally
acknowledged that an
oniichan in possession
of good fortune must be
in want of an imouto.


Oh dear heavens not an A2 upper!

Uncle Caveman
Jun 16, 2006



I stand by what I said... properly SBR'd that would make a neat XM177/Commando-clone.

Cyrano4747
Sep 25, 2006

American planes, full of holes and wounded men, took off backwards from an airfield in England. Over France, a few German fighter planes flew at them backwards, sucked bullets and shell fragments from some of the planes and crewmen. They did the same for wrecked American bombers on the ground.

Naramyth posted:

A2 upper on a pistol build.

Pistol builds are arguably the best place to use an extra/old A2 upper. You don't have a stock, so mounting a nice scope isn't even a possibility to begin with (at least if you want it to work right). That leaves you with reddots, and since you don't have a stock to base your cheekweld off of the vertical rise that an A2 carry handle rail adapter adds isn't annoying in the slightest.

Really, that's the best use for an A2 upper receiver that I can think of.

Illegal Clown
Feb 18, 2004



Cyrano4747 posted:

You're thinking of the "once an MG always an MG" rule.

It's true that a pistol can't be transferred as a title I long gun, but you very certainly can SBR it and transfer it as a title II firearm - the long/short arm distinction doesn't even exist for those, which is why machine guns and the like don't also have to be registered as SBRs or whatever even if their OAL is under what would normally be permissible.

What's even funnier is that in my state I can legally own a machinegun with a short barrel, like a Thompson or MP-40, but cannot own a semiautomatic SBR equivalent.

Uncle Caveman posted:

I stand by what I said... properly SBR'd that would make a neat XM177/Commando-clone.

And again, in my state I can only hope to make an M231 Firing Port Weapon clone. I've actually considered getting an AR pistol for just that purpose, but it never really seemed like a good idea.

infrared35
Jan 12, 2005



I was having a Fudd-ache so I went to my local Fudd shop to look at lever actions. They had a Winchester 1894 Trapper in .30-30.

The barrel and receiver had been duracoated in something close to flat dark earth. The magazine tube, (large) loop, and other hardware was still a deep, shiny blue. The rear sight was missing, and the receiver had been drilled and tapped to accommodate a Williams peep sight. It was Highly Tactical.

Uncle Caveman
Jun 16, 2006



infrared35 posted:

It was Highly Tactical.
You're going to love what I've got in mind for my 336.

bunnielab is going to hate what I've got in mind for my 336.

Micromancer
Apr 17, 2002

He went out to the store
and when he got back
Roll-marks said .22 Short, jack.
If anything I could say that
this gun was rare
Its covered it sweat,
toilet water, and hair


I hope the person that buys that A2 pistol confuses the buffer tube for a scope.

osoiman
Aug 6, 2002



http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vi...?Item=158208370

So, I guess someone tried to make a working real Krinkov from a russian bb gun? I was wondering why the (crappily welded) front trunnion seemed to have one too few rivet holes, and finally made the connection when, after googling for those markings, I went here:

http://www.izhmash.ru/eng/product/yunker2.shtml

infrared35
Jan 12, 2005




Those are genuinely awesome.

ShaiHulud
Dec 31, 2007

by T. Finn



That is loving shameful. Now I know where AA-OK is getting their undrilled pot metal trunnions.

Black Stormy
Apr 1, 2003



Illegal Clown posted:

What's even funnier is that in my state

It isn't funny, it is annoying.

GWBBQ
Jan 2, 2005



Illegal Clown posted:

What's even funnier is that in my state I can legally own a machinegun with a short barrel, like a Thompson or MP-40, but cannot own a semiautomatic SBR equivalent.


And again, in my state I can only hope to make an M231 Firing Port Weapon clone. I've actually considered getting an AR pistol for just that purpose, but it never really seemed like a good idea.
Greetings from CT, where you can have it in MG or semi-auto SBR, but not select fire.

Cyrano4747
Sep 25, 2006

American planes, full of holes and wounded men, took off backwards from an airfield in England. Over France, a few German fighter planes flew at them backwards, sucked bullets and shell fragments from some of the planes and crewmen. They did the same for wrecked American bombers on the ground.

GWBBQ posted:

Greetings from CT, where you can have it in MG or semi-auto SBR, but not select fire.

Wait, what? That doesn't even make sense.

Are you saying that a full auto only gun (say, like a MP40 or a Grease Gun) is OK, but one with both semi- and automatic fire options (like an StG44) is not OK?

QuarkMartial
Sep 25, 2004

I've seen the future, and it has hooves.


Where can I get one of these? They look awesome.

DeesGrandpa
Oct 21, 2009

Probably like King Nazi


Cyrano4747 posted:

Wait, what? That doesn't even make sense.

Are you saying that a full auto only gun (say, like a MP40 or a Grease Gun) is OK, but one with both semi- and automatic fire options (like an StG44) is not OK?

Yep, that's one of the many fun laws you can look forward to in the great state of CT.

I like turtles
Aug 6, 2009

"Wouldn't want to see an angry turtle with a gun, would ya? "

Well...


DeesGrandpa posted:

Yep, that's one of the many fun laws you can look forward to in the great state of CT.

that's really odd

DeesGrandpa
Oct 21, 2009

Probably like King Nazi


So are things like specifically banning Colt AR15s and Sporters but allowing any other ARs as long as they follow the AWB or are preban. Or the AWB in general, or the fourteen day wait on anything without a pistol or hunting permit.

Craptacular
Jul 11, 2004

I have the 50th and Final Pony Av!

I like turtles posted:

that's really odd

It wasn't intentional, it was due to whoever wrote the law not knowing any better and banning select-fire instead of full-auto firearms.

spankmeister
Jun 15, 2008

TFR 2011: All Brony, all the time.



So, like with making full-auto or select-fire firearms legal by making it semi-auto, can you make a select-fire firearm legal by making it FA-only?

Sten Freak
Sep 10, 2008

Hold your stomach until the end

spankmeister posted:

So, like with making full-auto or select-fire firearms legal by making it semi-auto, can you make a select-fire firearm legal by making it FA-only?

For the state of CT and for previously-registered firearms only, of course.

Shadowed Bacon
Apr 28, 2009


http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vi...?Item=158595184

I can't.....wait, what?

I got nothing....

spankmeister
Jun 15, 2008

TFR 2011: All Brony, all the time.



drat, I'm not going to read that wall-o-text.

El Jorge
Feb 26, 2006

A spiritus dominatus,
Domine, libra nos,
From the lighting and the tempest,
Our Emperor, deliver us.


A morte perpetua,
Domine, libra nos.


It.. it... it has 1911 grip panels and is wearing Pachmayr wraparounds

Kodo Zoku
Mar 6, 2008


Shadowed Bacon posted:

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vi...?Item=158595184

I can't.....wait, what?

I got nothing....

That is a loving roll cage, not a carrying handle.

Shadowed Bacon
Apr 28, 2009


spankmeister posted:

drat, I'm not going to read that wall-o-text.

I think it's physically impossible to, it's a goddamn fortress of text.

Rage_0
Feb 3, 2008


Shadowed Bacon posted:

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vi...?Item=158595184

I can't.....wait, what?

I got nothing....

I know we are photo snobs here, but goddamn, that's the worst lighting I've ever seen. Is the camera flash the only light source he owns?

ShaiHulud
Dec 31, 2007

by T. Finn


Rage_0 posted:

Is the camera flash the only light source he owns?

Buy his rifle so he can get his utilities restored.

Detective Thompson
Nov 9, 2007

Oh well looky what what we got ourselves over here.

Rage_0 posted:

Is the camera flash the only light source he owns?

You looked at that rifle he made and you still have to ask that question?

Shadowed Bacon
Apr 28, 2009


http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vi...?Item=158913138

he relisted it, and didn't drop the price at all.

I mean, when does it hit you that maybe people aren't willing to shell out approx. 4 grand for your poo poo gun. just because it's unique doesn't make it GOOD.

Cyrano4747
Sep 25, 2006

American planes, full of holes and wounded men, took off backwards from an airfield in England. Over France, a few German fighter planes flew at them backwards, sucked bullets and shell fragments from some of the planes and crewmen. They did the same for wrecked American bombers on the ground.

Shadowed Bacon posted:

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vi...?Item=158913138

he relisted it, and didn't drop the price at all.

I mean, when does it hit you that maybe people aren't willing to shell out approx. 4 grand for your poo poo gun. just because it's unique doesn't make it GOOD.

You see this all the time on gunbroker.

Zero relist fees lets people just let that poo poo sit up there until SOME sucker comes along with more money than sense.

Otto Skorzeny
Nov 7, 2008

He's a PSoC, loose and runnin'
came the whisper from each lip
And he's here to do some business with
the bad ADC on his chip
bad ADC on his chiiiiip


Gunbroker doesn't charge a relisting fee so he doesn't have a very strong incentive to drop the price if he doesn't need money in a hurry

e:f;b

Ygolonac
Nov 26, 2007

FURRED STREET,
BITCHES!




Shadowed Bacon posted:

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vi...?Item=158913138

he relisted it, and didn't drop the price at all.

I mean, when does it hit you that maybe people aren't willing to shell out approx. 4 grand for your poo poo gun. just because it's unique doesn't make it GOOD.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vi...?Item=158352401

This guy has been relisting for a hell of a long time now; I think the highest I've seen it go was about $350, and still didn't make reserve. For a parts-missing screwed-up Brazilian 1917. I have to assume he's looking for "complete functioning gun" prices, and unless someone is stupid-desperate to get one, he's not going to see it.

Other borkerama:

Total-fanboy Colt collector? Boy have we got something for you!

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vi...?Item=157398247

And just the thing to make the shooting investigation/testimony *interesting*:



http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vi...?Item=158854855

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Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004

NAMCO
Let this old man play Tales of Rebirth
IN ENGLISH!


Those have to be the most uncomfortable looking grips I have ever seen. The only thing that comes to mind that could possibly be worse would be grips made entirely of live angry bees.

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