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HotCanadianChick
Oct 3, 2002

ALL OF US NORMAL PEOPLE ARE ENJOYING OURSELVES

We love the creamy taste of BioWare's cock so much, we subscribed for life! With their delicious smegma hitting the back of our throats, the possibilities for fun at level 50 seem endless!


McCheese posted:

First number of your VIN is the country code.

That's the country the manufacturer is headquartered in, not where the car was built. Look inside the driver's side door jamb, that will have the sticker with the manufacturing location.

Ford Focus? Mexico. Chevy Impala? Canada. V6 engine for the 2004-2007 Saturn Vue? made by Honda in Japan. Chevy Aveo? It's a rebadged Daewoo, imported from Korea.

Toyota Corolla? Made in California, Since 1984. Honda Accord? They've been making them in Ohio since 1982.

Global economy means just that, global. Worrying about where your thingamajig was built is pretty stupid these days, since the modern economy is so decentralized and every company outsources stuff that no matter what you do, filthy dirty for'ners gonna get your money anyways, and there's not really anything you can do about it short of building a car yourself, entirely from reclaimed scrap or something.

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The King of Swag
Nov 10, 2005

To escape the closure,
is to become the God of Swag.

Even after Chrysler being sold to Cerberus, almost all our parts (work at a Dodge dealer) are still made in Germany. Although parts for older cars (2000 and earlier) seem to mostly be made in Mexico and Canada.

Propagandalf
Dec 6, 2008

itchy itchy itchy itchy

Pitch posted:

The Hermosillo plant is full-assembly. My Ford Focus was built there, I think it produces Fusions now.

My Ex's Focus was assembled in Detroit, and the engine in Mexico, according to the manufacturer stickers.

HotCanadianChick
Oct 3, 2002

ALL OF US NORMAL PEOPLE ARE ENJOYING OURSELVES

We love the creamy taste of BioWare's cock so much, we subscribed for life! With their delicious smegma hitting the back of our throats, the possibilities for fun at level 50 seem endless!


The King of Swag posted:

Even after Chrysler being sold to Cerberus, almost all our parts (work at a Dodge dealer) are still made in Germany. Although parts for older cars (2000 and earlier) seem to mostly be made in Mexico and Canada.

Now you're going to get ones made in Italy

Fix It Again, Tony

Otto Skorzeny
Nov 7, 2008

He's a PSoC, loose and runnin'
came the whisper from each lip
And he's here to do some business with
the bad ADC on his chip
bad ADC on his chiiiiip


Propagandalf posted:

My Ex's Focus was assembled in Detroit, and the engine in Mexico, according to the manufacturer stickers.

Did you find any uzi parts surreptitiously snuck into the motor

Propagandalf
Dec 6, 2008

itchy itchy itchy itchy

Otto Skorzeny posted:

Did you find any uzi parts surreptitiously snuck into the motor

No, but I think it was a mule for cosmoline. The engine compartment was loving filthy.

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

Happiness is a tight butt and flat tummy. I have neither but yours looks awesome BTW do you have any beer?

HotCanadianChick posted:

That's the country the manufacturer is headquartered in, not where the car was built.

No it's not. That's why you see shitloads of Hondas and Toyotas with a 1/2/5 for the first digit and not J.

Edit: And Saturns with a W

slidebite fucked around with this message at Mar 23, 2009 around 20:35

TapTheForwardAssist
Apr 9, 2007


Only The Hague can judge me.

Cyrano4747 posted:

The way my current employment prospects are looking, I kind of wish I'd taken some machining courses or something after high school. $30k a year would be a king's ransom right about now for me.

a foolish pianist
May 6, 2007
deadlift minimalist

Cyrano4747 posted:

The way my current employment prospects are looking, I kind of wish I'd taken some machining courses or something after high school. $30k a year would be a king's ransom right about now for me.

I'm working on a linguistics PhD right now, and I'm considering taking summer welding classes so I don't die hungry, over-educated, and unemployed when I finish this drat dissertation.

Tmavomodry
Jun 2, 2008

Professionals have standards. Be polite. Be efficient. Have a plan to kill everyone you meet.


a foolish pianist posted:

I'm working on a linguistics PhD right now, and I'm considering taking summer welding classes so I don't die hungry, over-educated, and unemployed when I finish this drat dissertation.

Welcome to the humanities.

I only got my BA because I already knew how to program computers.

Nine Lives
Feb 28, 2008

Day in, day out


poo poo I was a sociology major, then I figured I should probably get a marketable skill, so I took a double major in finance.

Groda
Mar 17, 2005



I'm marketable as hell, but I lust for the humanities.

I even take night classes in dead languages.

a foolish pianist
May 6, 2007
deadlift minimalist

Groda posted:

I'm marketable as hell, but I lust for the humanities.

I even take night classes in dead languages.

Which dead languages?

I started in programming and moved to cuneiform.

Groda
Mar 17, 2005



a foolish pianist posted:

Which dead languages?

I started in programming and moved to cuneiform.
Old Swedish (1225 - 1526)

Speaking of dead programming languages, I took an honest-to-God 1 credit Fortran course my Freshman year for fun. Years later, after three majors, it turned out to be dominant language in my field (nuclear engineering).

Otto Skorzeny
Nov 7, 2008

He's a PSoC, loose and runnin'
came the whisper from each lip
And he's here to do some business with
the bad ADC on his chip
bad ADC on his chiiiiip


a foolish pianist posted:

Which dead languages?

I started in programming and moved to cuneiform.

Should have gone with Latin

mkultra419
May 3, 2005
Alchemist

Cyrano4747 posted:

The way my current employment prospects are looking, I kind of wish I'd taken some machining courses or something after high school. $30k a year would be a king's ransom right about now for me.

Learn to be a aerospace grade machinist and move to Cleveland. You can get over 40k a year right out of a machinists program and pretty much set whatever hours you want. They are bringing 70 year old guys who have been retired for 5 years back as high wage contractors because there are so few younger dudes getting into that career right now. They also need CNC programmers.

mkultra419 fucked around with this message at Mar 24, 2009 around 02:14

Dannywilson
Apr 28, 2006

Braindead


mkultra419 posted:

They are bringing 70 year old guys who have been retired for 5 years back as high wage contractors because there are so few younger dudes getting into that career right now. They also need CNC programmers.

For the longest time, baby boomers edged out all their post generations from mechanical, medical, and highly technical jobs. That's why if you go into any hospital, machine shop, or electronics repair specialty, the people dealing with you will either be 50-55 or 20-25. The nursing field is really suffering right now, as everyone is retiring, or learning their job.

Sixgun Strumpet
Feb 16, 2009

I suspect I am still
terribly pleased.

Cyrano4747 posted:

The way my current employment prospects are looking, I kind of wish I'd taken some machining courses or something after high school. $30k a year would be a king's ransom right about now for me.

They may be laying people off out in Seattle here, but there is still plenty of work if you can do anything related to computers. They will surprise sex you, but the staffing agencies around here will get you a 15 dollar an hour job, until you show up drunk enough times they fire you, then they will get you another, and another. If you can post on the forums here you are more qualified then most of the people they get for these jobs.

Of course, you might have to play video games all day for your pay, or reset someone's passwords.

If you actually have some certifications you too can hate your easy high paying job at Microsoft. 4 hour work days must be nice...

Of course, housing is really expensive right around all the jobs. Unless your income is actually low enough that you can get into subsidized housing, which in Bellevue here is in a great location for any kind of commute you might have.

HotCanadianChick
Oct 3, 2002

ALL OF US NORMAL PEOPLE ARE ENJOYING OURSELVES

We love the creamy taste of BioWare's cock so much, we subscribed for life! With their delicious smegma hitting the back of our throats, the possibilities for fun at level 50 seem endless!


slidebite posted:

No it's not. That's why you see shitloads of Hondas and Toyotas with a 1/2/5 for the first digit and not J.

Edit: And Saturns with a W

Uh, yeah, you're just plain wrong.

There's no requirement to use the country of manufacture as the first three of the vin, even though that's how it's usually done. It's almost always done for cars which are specific to a given market, but less consistently to global cars that are sold in more-or-less identical form worldwide. Sometimes they do, every once in a while you'll get some car made in Mexico with a 1 as the first digit, or a U.S. made car with J as it's first digit.

Your best bet is always to check the window sticker and/or inside the door sill. That will also usually list not only country of assembly, but also country of origin for major parts.

HotCanadianChick fucked around with this message at Mar 24, 2009 around 17:16

Propagandalf
Dec 6, 2008

itchy itchy itchy itchy

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vi...?Item=125378976

Maybe he learned English from Afghans? Pretty though, price doesn't look to painful either.

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

Happiness is a tight butt and flat tummy. I have neither but yours looks awesome BTW do you have any beer?

HotCanadianChick posted:

Uh, yeah, you're just plain wrong.
Actually, no I'm not and I can prove it. I can link you to VINs of cars on new car lots right now where Hondas all begin with a 1/2 and Saturns Astras a W and Pontiac G8 with a 6 (Australia), Aveo's a K.

quote:

There's no requirement to use the country of manufacture as the first three of the vin, even though that's how it's usually done. It's almost always done for cars which are specific to a given market, but less consistently to global cars that are sold in more-or-less identical form worldwide.
Actually, all the reference I've found indicate that the first digit in particular is the location of the manufacturer in the physical sense: IE, the location of the assembly plant.
Wiki (yeah, it's far from the holy grail of citing I know) says this:

quote:

The first character of the WMI is the region in which the manufacturer is located. In practice, each is assigned to a country of manufacture.
It does not say "The region where the corporate entity resides" or anything like that. Best I can decipher they mean the manufacturer as in the plant.

I'm not saying I am for certain correct but I haven't found anything to support what you're saying (it's where the mfg is headquartered) and my observations certainly don't back that up. Can you give me an example of a Japanese Company that has a US assembled car with a J prefix?

slidebite fucked around with this message at Mar 25, 2009 around 18:56

SpiDeR
Apr 30, 2002

Crystalline is fine too


Every time I look at gunbroker I remember wanting to put together a Garand for myself, but then remember I've never done that kind of work before.

Cyrano4747
Sep 25, 2006

I am a closet nazi apologist.


SpiDeR posted:

Every time I look at gunbroker I remember wanting to put together a Garand for myself, but then remember I've never done that kind of work before.

Why not just buy one?

They're not that expensive for semi-auto rifles, and it's going to end up costing you about 1.5x the cost of a nice CMP gun to piece one together.

The Architect
Jul 6, 2003

Oh Coulson!

A civilian Dragunov? Non-restricted in Canada? 1 of only 5 imported in? Buy this rare gem now for a bargain price of $2650!

http://www.valleyguns.com/listings/...emnum=904442108

Best part is someone actually bought this.

Propagandalf
Dec 6, 2008

itchy itchy itchy itchy

The Architect posted:

A civilian Dragunov? Non-restricted in Canada? 1 of only 5 imported in? Buy this rare gem now for a bargain price of $2650!

http://www.valleyguns.com/listings/...emnum=904442108

Best part is someone actually bought this.

Has the other civilian version beat.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vi...?Item=125449594

Groda
Mar 17, 2005



What is this gun? It looks like it takes MAS 49 mags, but almost certainly doesn't.

COMPLETE RESTORATIVE RIFLE/SHOTGUN FINISHES

quote:



EDIT: On second look,

Groda fucked around with this message at Mar 27, 2009 around 04:16

Away Message
Apr 8, 2003



Groda posted:

What is this gun? It looks like it takes MAS 49 mags, but almost certainly doesn't.
I can't tell..and is it just my browser, or did that moron really make his auction page completely unreadable thanks to the biggest font he could possibly pick?

Pretty Little Rainbow
Dec 27, 2005

by T. Finn


The Architect posted:

A civilian Dragunov? Non-restricted in Canada? 1 of only 5 imported in? Buy this rare gem now for a bargain price of $2650!

http://www.valleyguns.com/listings/...emnum=904442108

Best part is someone actually bought this.

The best part is that those arent actually Dragunovs. Still really cool rifles and I'd want one though.

Linux Republican
Dec 30, 2008


Groda posted:

What is this gun? It looks like it takes MAS 49 mags, but almost certainly doesn't.

COMPLETE RESTORATIVE RIFLE/SHOTGUN FINISHES



EDIT: On second look,


No.
No.
That's not true.
That's impossible!

Cyrano4747
Sep 25, 2006

I am a closet nazi apologist.


Groda posted:

What is this gun? It looks like it takes MAS 49 mags, but almost certainly doesn't.

COMPLETE RESTORATIVE RIFLE/SHOTGUN FINISHES



EDIT: On second look,


What we have here is one tactic as gently caress MAS 49.

Seeing that and then recognizing it is kind of like spotting a girl you used to have a crush on in high school in a porno. A REALLY degrading porno.

El Jorge
Feb 26, 2006

A spiritus dominatus,
Domine, libra nos,
From the lighting and the tempest,
Our Emperor, deliver us.


A morte perpetua,
Domine, libra nos.


Cyrano4747 posted:

What we have here is one tactic as gently caress MAS 49.

Seeing that and then recognizing it is kind of like spotting a girl you used to have a crush on in high school in a porno. A REALLY degrading porno.

Really degrading porn. Like harness and ball gag degrading.

HotCanadianChick
Oct 3, 2002

ALL OF US NORMAL PEOPLE ARE ENJOYING OURSELVES

We love the creamy taste of BioWare's cock so much, we subscribed for life! With their delicious smegma hitting the back of our throats, the possibilities for fun at level 50 seem endless!


El Jorge posted:

Really degrading porn. Like harness and ball gag degrading.

With golden showers. And scat.

Cyrano4747
Sep 25, 2006

I am a closet nazi apologist.


HotCanadianChick posted:

With golden showers. And scat.

Bankrolled by goons. In Brazil.

El Jorge
Feb 26, 2006

A spiritus dominatus,
Domine, libra nos,
From the lighting and the tempest,
Our Emperor, deliver us.


A morte perpetua,
Domine, libra nos.


Y'all are forgetting the incessant Roman showers too.

Paramemetic
Sep 29, 2003

A gift from Coyote! Nothing could possibly go wrong here!


El Jorge posted:

Roman showers

Pray tell?

El Jorge
Feb 26, 2006

A spiritus dominatus,
Domine, libra nos,
From the lighting and the tempest,
Our Emperor, deliver us.


A morte perpetua,
Domine, libra nos.


Paramemetic posted:

Pray tell?

Vomit!

Sixgun Strumpet
Feb 16, 2009

I suspect I am still
terribly pleased.

Gunbroker: for all your Bear Skull needs.

Or when you just really need a Bronze Triceratops Skull

Apparently you can buy all sorts of random animal bits on Gunbroker. Searching for Skull nets a broad selection of animals, nazi relics, and skulls engraved on pieces for your guns. Even Glocks apparently.

JakeB
Dec 28, 2008

ASK ABOUT MAH PICKLES!!!!one


Now, I know with Obamaramamania crap going on, prices on black rifles and their accessories are going up, but seriously, $40??

Sgt. Shaved Balls
Sep 6, 2006

The Year Is 2053. Basketball Is Dead.


JakeB posted:

Now, I know with Obamaramamania crap going on, prices on black rifles and their accessories are going up, but seriously, $40??

That's still a bargain compared to HK mags

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big_dilli
May 17, 2005


Have you ever used one of those HK mags? My brother-in-law gave me six of them and man are they nice. Way better then anything else I've used.

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