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B4Ctom1
Oct 5, 2003



Tapeworm posted:

When surprising a cock fag with this item, does one stand adjacent to him and hit him with ejecting brass so he can read the message on the ejection port cover, or do something else?


Does this mean that PS90, FN 2000, and AR-57 cannot surprise cockfags?

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B4Ctom1
Oct 5, 2003



Worst Hungarian mosin sniper refinish job rifle I have ever seen:
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vi...?Item=132332430

B4Ctom1 fucked around with this message at Jun 27, 2009 around 17:43

B4Ctom1
Oct 5, 2003



Cyrano4747 posted:

Ok, I know jack poo poo about Hungarian snipers.

What are the give aways here? Restamped numbers? Repro scope or mount?

Some of it is som messed up it looks fake!

Compare that rifle to mine which is just a couple thousand different. Mine is more exemplary of others you will find by googling "Hungarian M/52 Mosin Sniper".

Mine:
http://www.outlawperformance.com/im.../Hungarian_M52/

also I edited my first post above like 3 times while trying to figure out if it was fake or just ruined.

B4Ctom1 fucked around with this message at Jun 27, 2009 around 17:48

B4Ctom1
Oct 5, 2003



Cyrano4747 posted:

Yeah, looks like they "prettied it up" and based their finish info off of Russian post-war refurbed Mosins. That bolt in particular looks like it had the living poo poo polished out of it.

The bolts are shiny but his serial strike marks look like they were made with a sledge. The stock looks almost laminated and that is because the grain looks totally different than any other rifle I have ever seen. These rifles are made with a fine grain blond wood. That wood looks like it missed the chute for the truck to the plywood factory.

Did you look at the finish of his scope? It looks sandblasted. All the other Hungarian M52 specific scopes I have seen have a lathe finish that looks like the musical surface of a vinyl phonograph record.

B4Ctom1
Oct 5, 2003



I think G43 should find the guy making these fake stamp dies and saw his cock off with a rusty swiss sawback bayonet.

B4Ctom1
Oct 5, 2003



I am so bummed, I thought this was some sort of recreation of an unknown (to me) mosin anti tank rifle in 50 BMG

I know they made german anti tank mausers. Oh well.

B4Ctom1
Oct 5, 2003



The saddest part is that you can basically mount any receiver to a skeletonized stock in a much simpler fashion, without looking like an abortion, and with match type results.

Here is an example of a competition style rifle with a simple skeletonized stock


Much less elaborate than the one in the auction, much lighter, and better in every way.

It works so well that a variation of it is what Armalite uses on the AR-50 and AR-30 bolt action rifles.


Click here for the full 720x191 image.


Just a machined and profiled block of aluminum. A few other manufacturers use this configuration as well.

You could do this to just about every kind of milsurp receiver if you were inclined to make a match rifle in a class that allowed maximum modification but that required the use of some actual military receiver.

As for welding the scope rail to the barrel this is gross. I am not against welding of the scope mount, just doing it to the barrel. Mark Serbu welds the piece that the scope rails are mounted very nicely to the Serbu 50's.

Click here for the full 641x481 image.


Big difference here is that the actual scope base still attaches to the Welded mount Mark does with screws.

B4Ctom1
Oct 5, 2003



As bignick pointed out in IRC, even the Chechen rebels can build better guns from scrap metal

Click here for the full 800x600 image.

B4Ctom1
Oct 5, 2003



Sgt. Shaved Balls posted:

I'd buy it

not sure if it is 12.7mm but it could be 14.5mm

B4Ctom1
Oct 5, 2003



s0beit posted:

I'm really just trying to figure out how the gently caress you are even supposed to use that scope for any practical purposes.

Its a scout rifle

B4Ctom1
Oct 5, 2003



Fog Tripper posted:

What better to re-enact the capers of a serial killer?

People re-enact other points of history. People dress up as mass murdering nazi's.

Imagine sitting in your car with a woman while someone blasts you at close range with blanks from a .44 caliber Charter Arms Bulldog. I am guessing that could be pretty dangerous though.

B4Ctom1
Oct 5, 2003



What do you guys think of this, I would like to have it.
http://gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewIt...?Item=144207018

B4Ctom1
Oct 5, 2003



Gewehr 43 posted:

For $300, go for it.

The "$300" part and the "what caliber was it originally" part and the "how did they convert it" is bothering me too much. I STILL need something like this for my 7.62x39 test.

B4Ctom1
Oct 5, 2003



Uncle Caveman posted:

I'd put my $300 towards something a bit more reliable.

I know but they are sooo expensive :'(

B4Ctom1
Oct 5, 2003



BaronW posted:

It looks like a badly drawn gun out of a newspaper comic.

No, if it were in a news paper it would be listed as an AK47.

B4Ctom1
Oct 5, 2003



infrared35 posted:

Finally, I can build my own custom M1A.

Starting with the $1500 bare receiver.

Or you could start with this
http://v2.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...?Item=150700503

and throw out or sell anything you don't need.

B4Ctom1
Oct 5, 2003



I think the rare and often faked german made "cigarette gun" mausers are probably the finest bubba's I have ever laid eyes one.

B4Ctom1
Oct 5, 2003



Cyrano4747 posted:

black market cigarette mausers

The one I saw, was in a magazine article recently. The example even had a sniper scope/mount. The writer mentioned the pitfalls of trying to obtain one, the history, and how they often are more valuable to the person who obtains them than they are on the open market.

B4Ctom1
Oct 5, 2003



Craptacular posted:

No, tacky would be an Abraham Lincoln commemorative .41 cal derringer

JFK edition scoped engraved gold plated Carcano?

WTC Edition Boeing 767?

B4Ctom1
Oct 5, 2003




Uh oh, better stop posting her or oleg will get ahold of her.

B4Ctom1
Oct 5, 2003



weird combination

8mm - check
military scope made for 8mm - check
weird stock - wtf
Remington? - wtf

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vi...?Item=191293945

B4Ctom1
Oct 5, 2003



Gewehr 43 posted:

what in the samfucketyhell is this garbage

WWII Ithaca 1911A1


Compare to mine:


Another photo on the auction gun shows that the crossed cannon ordnance mark has likely been obliterated too. I'm betting this one made its way to the civvie market in a less-than-officially-blessed way and someone took it on themselves to sanitize the markings. edit: but then why would they go thru the trouble of putting the US property marks back on it??

fuuuuugly

edit2: This site says the serial number falls into a batch assigned to Colt. So, it's not even an Ithaca frame.

LOLast Ditch 1911? Does it have a smooth bore barrel?

Not even a loving gunbroker item
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vi...?Item=217235459

Not even a loving Galil
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vi...?Item=217229692

B4Ctom1
Oct 5, 2003



Sixgun Strumpet posted:

Unknown WW2 Device



I believe it is a naval signal cannon. Not necessarily for the "navy" itself but fired by any ship entering a port to wake/notify the harbor master. This process was also used to wake/signal drawbridge operators.


Previously ships had used a device called a "thunder mug". Trying to fire a thunder mug or any other powder and primed/fuse type device gets really old in wet or foul weather. I am speculating that this is its barely modern equivalent. I base this guess on the shape of the barrel. There are plenty of flare guns made back to the turn of the century, none of them I have ever seen bear this traditional "cannon" shaped barrel. They always look like over sized shotguns instead.

Thunder mugs were used worldwide and thus come in a variety of sizes and shapes. Here is a guy firing off his collection of various thunder mugs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GaPMODiGRWk

I leave it to you to decide about my guess.

B4Ctom1
Oct 5, 2003



Romanian AK74 Sniper Rifle Zeiss ZFK Scope 5.45x39 $1,659.00
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vi...?Item=222400122

B4Ctom1
Oct 5, 2003



I like turtles posted:

Alright, got my fees back.

So I sold my PSL on gunbroker on May 4th, with the stipulation that the buyer's dealer should be willing to accept shipments from non FFLs. No bids for six days on a seven day auction, then I get a bid for my minimum price. Yay! Then the auction ends early because someone hit buy it now, cool!

The guy is super responsive, seems like a great buyer. His FFL, apparently his dad because they had the same address, emails me this (name and address deleted)


Notice a couple things.
Notice that I sold the gun on May 4th, and the expiration date is May 1.
Notice that the premises address double lined box has one line broken under the address, almost as if it was photocopied in there, or someone who is really lovely at image manipulation pasted it in there.

Notice the FFL number.



Saber Defence Industries LLC in Nashville, TN? Not some random Vietnamese dude in San Jose, CA?

I pointed out the expired FFL and the fact that the PSL was in stock (ie, not compliant with CA's AWB), and ultimately used the compliance as an excuse to not complete the transaction.

G43 encouraged me to call the ATF, so I did. The agent I spoke to was very happy to hear from me. I forwarded all the information I had on the buyer and the "FFL", along with the gunbroker information, and all the emails traffic that had occurred.


I'm helping!

I doubt I'll ever hear what ends up happening with this, but I set up a google news alert for "ATF San Jose arrest", so we'll see if anything ever results from that.



Soo... Yeah. Do yourself a favor and always loving check the FFL number if you're making a shipment with a firearm. I don't know what my legal liability would have been if I had sent it, but I'm pretty sure the ATF wouldn't be happy with me either.

I am just guessing here, but maybe he got ahold of that Sabre document as part of the freedom of information act for their trial?

B4Ctom1
Oct 5, 2003



$500 gun plus refinishing and gold plating equals... ?
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vi...?Item=229150403

B4Ctom1 fucked around with this message at May 15, 2011 around 01:41

B4Ctom1
Oct 5, 2003



I would really love to have an M38, but because there aren't piles and piles of them for sale anymore, people want a lot of money for them. More than I would be willing to pay for something rare.

I mainly want one as a shooter, more specifically a truck gun. I am talking about something that will probably not be treated somewhere between a roman slave and a russian POW.

I would never defile another piece of milsurp. I did poo poo up my SKS in 1993. For my punishment, I got to watch my crapped up $125 SKS stay around the same value while everyone elses russian SKS's became $300-$400 rifles.

That said, I don't also don't like to be an enabler. Especially enabling bubba's or their rifles.

But I saw this: http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vi...?Item=238111439

and I think it fits the bill. what do you think?

PS I don't like M44's

B4Ctom1
Oct 5, 2003



AceMcSquelch posted:

If you lived in Iowa, I would have the DEAL FOR YOU! We just got in a sporterized mosin. It is big, it is ugly, and it could be yours! Actually, you probably wouldn't want it, as the previous owner removed the rear sight so he could put a sweet scope on it. I'm not kidding. He had some high-end night vision mounted.

Is the goof mount still on it? Is it one of those scout mounts? what stock? Give us a pic for interest and hilarity sake!

The Sphinxster posted:

I know it's just a truck gun, but what the gently caress is up with the finish around the magazine there? That seems sketchy. The price is right, but that makes me wonder what the internals look like.

Man, gunsnammo has a 38 in a 38 stock for 350ish. Dang... I had never seen that before. Getting it in a 44 stock seems to be much more reasonable.

Its not the M44 stock that I have a problem with. I could live with a 38 in a 44 stock. So if you have any other places where these are going for closer to 91/30 prices I would be interested to know.

B4Ctom1
Oct 5, 2003



Sixgun Strumpet posted:

Hate to break it to you, but those are real.



You didn't post the same things though.

B4Ctom1
Oct 5, 2003



So sad. How hard would it be to get another correct stock?

B4Ctom1
Oct 5, 2003



SadWhaleFamily posted:

Hey, looks like one of Classic Arms's hard chromed Mosins made it onto gunbroker.

Opening bid $1554.00

$1470 now, a STEAL!

hangedman posted:

Looks like I'm sitting on $1500 worth of 7.62 tok ammo if I use that auction as a pricing guide.

Contact him and tell him you will sell them to him for half his price and split the profits!

B4Ctom1
Oct 5, 2003



thermobollocks posted:

Somebody loving buy this


quote:

The gun was built to bolt into a C16 aerial gunner cradel.

or mine
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vi...?Item=244851826


quote:

It is your responsibility to determine that this item is legal in your aria.

probably the first time he ever spelled the word without the "n" on the end.

B4Ctom1
Oct 5, 2003



Faerunner posted:

Pretty sure you're thinking Aryan.

I am going out on a limb here, I know its a stretch, but any guy who spells phonetically the word "area" as "aria" probably spells "aryan" as "arian".

Are you married?

Just asking because I wonder if you are sucking the "fun" out of someone IRL.

B4Ctom1
Oct 5, 2003



I have talked before, maybe in this very thread, about wishing for a cheap M38 mosin. I would love to have something really short but have sworn off hacking up any milsurp.

This doesn't stop me from buying and possibly rescuing someone else's bubba'ed up little mosin for dirt cheap.

I was browsing gunbroker and saw this:
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vi...?Item=248817281

At first I was like, ok, cool.

Then I was like

and then I was

and finally

B4Ctom1
Oct 5, 2003



Spazz posted:

You know, I may catch a lot of hell for putting a scope on my Mosin only because I can't afford any other gun that can punish the poo poo out of steel at 200 yards right now, but at least I put a non-permanant long-eye-relief scope on it. I didn't turn it into the monstrosity you linked...

Yeah, that is totally different. Reversible changes to a gun which will only be rare maybe someday.

But what was done there.. is something totally different.

Look closely,


enhance

enhance

ENHANCE

B4Ctom1
Oct 5, 2003



IuniusBrutus posted:

I didn't even know there were Chinese Mosins, which makes this kind of sad for me. The only thing that seems really bad though is the bolt handle.

No, that is the point. Let me enlighten.

Slightly bent bolt, empty screw holes on the left side of the receiver..

Here is what it looked like at one time


aka Chinese Type 53 "carbine" sniper

B4Ctom1
Oct 5, 2003



Sten Freak posted:

No visible import marks too, something that just kills almost all the cheaper imports from the last 5 years. No evidence other than that but could have been a Vietnam bring back.

I have only heard of russian and hungarians in vietnam. It doesn't sound impossible, but I wouldn't be surprised to find out one or more made it from the Korean War!

B4Ctom1
Oct 5, 2003




I mean you no harm. This is definitely a gun for a New Orleans madame or the wife of a mexican cartel member.

I have to tell you my grandfather passed away a while back. He was a depression era kid, a religious man, and a real life cowboy. He grew up in an ancient time when farming and ranching ruled the land. All before California was divided up into condos and ruined.

For a period of time before I was born, he raised siamese cats for good money and had one that he loved and was totally his buddy.

He would have rocked this gun.

B4Ctom1
Oct 5, 2003



Not Nipsy Russell posted:

In the 70's and 80's (and probably before), it was actually recommended by law enforcement to engrave your social and/or driver's license # on your property. This was Looooooooong before ID theft was a thing to people worried about, and was seen as a surefire way to enable law enforcement to return your stolen 8-track, Casio wristwatch, and Peter Max paintings.

This family heirloom has my fathers CA DL number engraved on its receiver

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B4Ctom1
Oct 5, 2003



http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vi...?Item=259077590

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