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automaticswim
Jan 07, 2005



Considering L4D megathread's #1 and #2 were created by someone who didn't even play the game, and megathread #3 contained very little to no pertinent information, as well as the lack of being updated, it's about time for a new one.




Left 4 Dead "authoring tools" (SDK?) was released awhile ago. Custom content support was just released. Still no 4 vs 4 matchmaking!


By now you should know that Left 4 Dead is a p. awesome zombie survival FPS from Valve, the same guys who purchased the rights to games such as CounterStrike and DoD and claimed them as their own beautiful unique-like-a-snowflake creations. By now most should know or have an idea of what L4D is, the fact you have 4-player co-op or 8-player versus, in which it is a 4vs4 match of survivors against infected.

    The survivors
  • Louis, the token black guy. Some IT professional turned hard-rear end in a zombie apocalypse, he loves to scream "ooooh no" in the most attractive way possible. He also has some huge eyes.
  • Zoey is the angsty college girl who dreamt of killing zombies and, here she is, killing zombies. Her death cry is horrible, so don't let her die.
  • Bill is a hardened veteran that killed VC while wiping his rear end with poison ivy. He doesn't like Francis.
  • Francis has tattoos and doesn't like Bill, or Louis.. possibly because he is a black man.

    The infected
  • Boomer, whom I'd like to believe was once a defensive lineman for his city football team, is now suffering from indigestion and likes to vomit on the survivors. He's extremely vulnerable, loud, and ugly, but his vomit attracts regular infected to whomever it lands on. Vomit can be blocked by anything, even as small as that speck of dust floating in front of you that you can't see. Boomers exploding can destroy doors and still slime a survivor directly behind the door.
  • The Hunter was probably some skateboarder or some jock because he can jump some serious distance and rip someones tits out in a heartbeat. Especially if he's on fire.
  • The Smoker can and does tend to choke the living poo poo out of anyone he can wrap his tongue around. He coughs and poofs into a magical cloud of green when he's killed.
  • The Tank was probably the school star wrestler or something, but this guy is huge and can gently caress things up. His weaknesses are fire, autoshotguns, and being alone.
  • The Witch, she's an emo kid who will go psychoballistic on anyone who gets near her or shoots her. Avoid her unless you're confident enough to put a shell or two in her head quickly.

    Weapons and items
  • Pistol, my favored gun, 15 rounds single, 30 rounds dual.
  • Shotgun, pump-action, powerful, holds 8 rounds.
  • Uzi, fast, inaccurate in full spray, 50 rounds.
  • Rifle, accurate in burst, effective medium to long range, 50 rounds.
  • Autoshotgun, painful, most effective in tank and witch killing, 10 rounds.
  • Hunting rifle, powerful, effective medium to long range, 15 rounds.
  • Pipebomb, some reason regular zombies love these. 6 second fuse. Can also stop a hunter mid-flight if you throw it just right; Maniak made me learn this the hard way.
  • Molotov cocktail, burns for 15 seconds. Fire on special infected can be put out by water.
  • Pills, this game turned me into an addict. Temporarily restores 50HP.
  • Medkits, resets incap counter and restores anywhere from 60-80HP.
  • Gascan, oxygen tanks and propane tanks: self-explanatory. Oxytanks have a 2 second delay from being shot to explosion.
  • Minigun, awesome.

This thread is for information on the PC version, not the poo poo 360 version which is inferior to PC gaming to begin with.


Possibly important or interesting links
Left4Dead 411 - Apparent "#1 fansite" for Left4Dead.
SA Goon4Dead Steam Group
XBox 360 L4D Thread (sucks)
http://left4dead.wikia.com/wiki/Left_4_Dead_Wiki - thanks mordarch. This site has more info than L4D411 or Valve's own wiki.


FAQ
  • For those having issues with getting into high ping servers and oddball players from other countries.

    The Gunslinger posted:

    Open Steam, click File->Settings. Go to Download and Download Region, select one appropriate. It had changed mine to loving Thailand, my friend in St. Louis had UK and another friend's was set to China. Apparently the matchmaker uses this in it's search algorithm, once I changed mine back to US I was getting 50ms ping servers and my lobbies filling nearly instantly all the time.

  • Protips for newer players
    If a teammates is pulled by a smoker, run and gun towards them. It's often quicker to melee them free if you can't directly see the smoker, but the tongue also takes damage. After enough damage to the tongue it automatically breaks, releasing whomever it's wrapped around. If you're going to save someone who is pounced, and you melee the hunter, make sure you kill the hunter ASAFP because that hunter will be right back on top of someone, possibly you, in a matter of seconds. If you come face to face with a boomer, melee and step back a good distance before you shoot him; you just interrupted their vomit and exploding his rear end won't get you covered. Try to avoid shooting him with teammates around unless you absolutely have to.

  • New players continued...
    If playing co-op, and a tank is ground-pounding one of your teammates you can run up to the tank and melee him in the back; this will turn the attention to you so a teammate can pick up the guy getting slammed on the ground. If you're all healthy enough to run from the tank, the person being chased can keep the tank distracted while the rest of the team chases and fires from behind; if your team falls apart and gets slaughtered on a tank the primary reason is you are not concentrating your fire on the tank. You have a team for a reason.

  • Server browser
    You'd think by now some people would know that opening the console and typing openserverbrowser would bring up the old school server browser function that so many want. Just in case, I mentioned it here.

    Lennylightspeed posted:

    You can have the server browser be an option in the main menu...
    1. Open steam
    2. My Games tab
    3. Right click left4dead
    4. Click "Properties"
    5. Click "Set launch options"
    6. Type this in the box (without the quote marks) "-serverbrowser"
    When you start the game you should have an option at the main menu to search like most other valve games.

  • Stuttering on a dual-core machine
    I'm honestly unsure if this has been fixed, but if you have a dual-core machine and you experience random stutter and lock-ups, try mat_queue_mode 0 in your console and see if this fixes the problem. If it does, either bind a key or add that to your left 4 dead/left4dead/cfg/autoexec.cfg so you don't have to remember every time you launch L4D. This is mostly geared towards recent buyers. This is also the same as going to Options > Video > Advanced > Disable multicore rendering.

  • Drivers in L4D
    A lot of users using NVidia cards report rolling back to NVidia release 178.24 drivers much better than updating to the latest. Try this if you continue to suffer problems with framerate after the above suggestion and lowering visual settings.

  • Other bugs, glitches or issues not listed or discussed here:
    This site has pretty much any and every issue with L4D listed and a resolution as well. If your problem is more complex than framerate or not listed, check this one.

  • Tired of intro movies every time you launch L4D?
    Easiest fix, go to your Steam games list, right-click Left4Dead, select Properties, Set Launch options and add -novid and click ok, and you're set.

  • Want to make your own spray logo?
    Look at this YouTube link I shamelessly stole from two megathreads ago.

  • IRC
    IRC Server: irc.synirc.net Channel: #Left4Goons
    This poo poo sucks don't do this.

  • When the hell is the SDK coming out with any real semblance of an update?!
    "SDK" was released and by SDK I mean map-making tools and nothing concerning actually modding or creating mods for the actual game. That will be released "later."

  • Host a server? Want SourceMod but having trouble? Want a complete list of cvars, available and hidden?
    Then this place really isn't for you. However, I will suggest you verify whether your host is providing you with a linux or Windows machine, and to use the appropriate .VDF for the system you're on. I can assure you that if you use GameServers.com their listing of what system your server is running on is probably wrong.
    Check http://www.alliedmods.net and http://www.sourcemod.net
    For cvars, check out http://l4d.wtfdie.com.

  • If you plan on hosting a server and want it in the goon group
    This information will have to go in your servers server.cfg file.

    quote:

    (required)
    sv_steamgroup 577290

    (Pick one)
    sv_steamgroup_exclusive 0 - No exclusivity
    sv_steamgroup_exclusive 1 - Exclusive until community member joins
    sv_steamgroup_exclusive 2 - Always exclusive, no matter what

  • Are you infected? Is your rear end on fire?
    If you're in a map with water, haul rear end to it if you can. Being on fire obviously does damage over time, and that damage compiled with being shot will end your reign of terror quick. Average 45-50 seconds of life while on fire and taking no other damage. Hunters are recommended to catch fire before a pounce, as they do increased damage while burning and pounced on a survivor. However, the 25 damage pounce remains the max you can get, flaming or not; survivors, avoid flaming hunters like you'd avoid TRM in San Francisco. Smokers and boomers suck when on fire, don't let it happen.

  • I have a mic to talk, sound goes through speakers. How can I not record survivor deathscreams when I push to talk?
    Edit 0.3 to how low/high you want volume to go during record.

    Plecks posted:

    alias +dotalk "volume 0.3;+voicerecord"
    alias -dotalk "volume 1.0;-voicerecord"
    bind X +dotalk

  • Lobby hosts wanting to use specific servers without a searchkey
    Because the searchkey thing sucks, really.
    Type this in your console, if you're lobby host, and have the IP of the server you want onhand. Alternatively add it to your autoexec.cfg so every time you start L4D this is run. Note the sv_cheats 1 is local, on your client only, to change ms_force and does nothing in terms of gameplay.

    quote:

    ms_force_dedicated_server IP

  • Other questions, or problems? Ask away, someone will be happy to answer and if it's a big issue I'll update this post. I'd also recommend joining the Goon 4 Dead Steam group chat room, there's often plenty of acitivity in there.

Think of anything else that should be added? PM me here or on Steam (automaticswim), or start your post with @@@ and it will be added. Server information will not be added as it can be obtained from the Steam Group, and this isn't PGS.

automaticswim fucked around with this message at Jun 26, 2009 around 00:58

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Chafey
Jun 14, 2005

greenface does not understand


Steam name is Chafey, add me if you haven't got enough voice macro spamming pistol wielding pill junkies wandering around out in the open on your team

Officer_Bulbock
Jul 28, 2007



Closet camping is irritating. Melee is overpowered. New versus maps in upcoming patch should have come with the game. Survival mode sounds like it could be done using console commands. I can't wait for custom maps using the sdk. Hunting rifle is pointless in versus. Just got 8000 points in a versus game guys, check out this sweet scoreboard. Tank punch should hit more than one player at a time. Director makes competitive play difficult. Bots are really dumb.

Okay, I think we can just about wrap this one up.

a computer
Feb 22, 2008


Is there some way to lower the game volume when I push a button to talk into my mic? I want to be able to hear my real-life voice while I speak so I don't sound like a deaf person.

Aristobulus
Mar 20, 2007

Charmander uses Ember! It's super effective!


I'm one of the few people in the world who is new to this game - I JUST got it recently due to the price drop.

With that in mind, is there anything I should know before I dare show my face online? Obviously, I've played the single player mode some to get a feel for the game, but, just asking in case there's some things the single player mode doesn't prepare you for.

Son of Rodney
Feb 22, 2006
I don't care what you ask me the boy's rude

I just got the game aswell and I played some campaigns on easy. Just do that and you'll know the basics.

Team Black Zion
Aug 26, 2006
See! Now! Your sentence is up.

Nice post, Auto. Yeah, just play coop for a bit until you feel like you can go head to head. Plus you get the whole cinematic zombie movie experience without having to worry about someone striving for points.

adamantium|wang
Sep 14, 2003

"The Liberal Senate will no longer be of any concern to us. I have just received word that the Chairman has dissolved the Upper House permanently."

In the last thread someone mentioned a change to the molotov's effect on Tanks. It used to be that when a Tank was set alight a timer was started independent of damage that killed the Tank when it expired. Has this changed? Does the molotov now do regular damage over time to the Tank?

Plecks
Sep 26, 2006



a computer posted:

Is there some way to lower the game volume when I push a button to talk into my mic? I want to be able to hear my real-life voice while I speak so I don't sound like a deaf person.

quote:

alias +dotalk "volume 0.3;+voicerecord"
alias -dotalk "volume 1.0;-voicerecord"
bind X +dotalk
Change the 0.3/1.0 to whatever you want. 1.0 is default volume.

Swilo
Jun 02, 2004
ANIME SUCKS HARD

Auto you better update this frequently Someone should get Mo to post a link here and close the old one, too.

a computer posted:

Is there some way to lower the game volume when I push a button to talk into my mic? I want to be able to hear my real-life voice while I speak so I don't sound like a deaf person.
I think if you can't hear yourself talking because the game is too loud you should turn it down a few notches...

adamantium|wang posted:

In the last thread someone mentioned a change to the molotov's effect on Tanks. It used to be that when a Tank was set alight a timer was started independent of damage that killed the Tank when it expired. Has this changed? Does the molotov now do regular damage over time to the Tank?
Yes, it's now a simple damage over time based on your health. This means it takes longer to die from fire alone, but being shot will now make him die faster. And I think they fixed the extinguishing in water to actually work.

Zephro
Nov 23, 2000

I suppose I could part with one and still be feared...


adamantium|wang posted:

Does the molotov now do regular damage over time to the Tank?
Yes.

Spockly
Feb 04, 2008


You have the hunting rifle listed incorrectly. It's 15 shots instead of 10.

Puistokemisti
Apr 10, 2007
Fiber Supplement

Aristobulus posted:

I'm one of the few people in the world who is new to this game - I JUST got it recently due to the price drop.

With that in mind, is there anything I should know before I dare show my face online? Obviously, I've played the single player mode some to get a feel for the game, but, just asking in case there's some things the single player mode doesn't prepare you for.

Survivors don't take friendly fire damage while they are immobilized by hunter/smoker so feel free to unload your clip into them while you run to free them. In fact, shooting hunter off someone can be better idea than meleeing him all around the map.
Friendly fire damage in normal versus is kinda weak anyway, so feel free to help someone clear the zombies away by shooting them with shotgun.

Hunters who are on fire do hilarious amounts of damage if they pounce someone, so avoid them if you are survivor and try to light yourself on fire if you are infected.

Both Boomer vomit and Smoker tongue will randomly fail to connect for reasons that make no sense at all. Did they even fix the whole 'spawning infected blocking vomit' thing? Also, if you are a smoker trying to pull someone into Witch, make sure that the witch isn't too near to your tongue, it will just fly out and then fail to connect.

Join Goons4Dead and watch goons ragequit.

Barack HUSSEIN
Mar 20, 2003
a radical black MUSLIM

Puistokemisti posted:

Survivors don't take friendly fire damage while they are immobilized by hunter/smoker so feel free to unload your clip into them while you run to free them.

They take friendly fire damage when they're smoked. Try to shoot the tongue or the smoker without hitting the survivor whenever possible.

incoherent
Apr 24, 2004
I didnt survive shark week. and that banme thread.

Goddamnit I need some protips for harder survival modes with the tank. My team is really great with teamwork, we croutch when there is a hord coming, someones always looking back for anything suspicious, running fast through the map, etc. But we always fall apart at the seems when it comes to tank battles.

a computer
Feb 22, 2008


Swilo posted:

I think if you can't hear yourself talking because the game is too loud you should turn it down a few notches...

Yeah that's how I've been compensating for it.

Thanks Plecks for posting the script, though!

Sanctum
Feb 14, 2005

noise freak

So I was loving around with HLDJ trying to make a script for a separately hotkeyed playlist full of powerpuff girl soundbytes and I accidentally erased my entire autoexec.cfg losing all my vocalize conceptblock aliases (and my super-sekret melee script that worked post-patck ).

Can someone repost some good working conceptblocks, especially louis whistling and zoey farting because those two I can't do without.

Swilo
Jun 02, 2004
ANIME SUCKS HARD

Barack HUSSEIN posted:

They take friendly fire damage when they're smoked. Try to shoot the tongue or the smoker without hitting the survivor whenever possible.
No they don't, go wild.

Barack HUSSEIN
Mar 20, 2003
a radical black MUSLIM

Swilo posted:

No they don't, go wild.

It was changed in the last update.

mordarch
Jan 20, 2008


automaticswim posted:

[*]Hunting rifle, powerful, effective medium to long range, 10 rounds.
@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

You mean 15 rounds, right?

e: And the medikit heals up to 80 health

2e: And this useful link leads to the L4D wiki: http://left4dead.wikia.com/wiki/Left_4_Dead_Wiki

mordarch fucked around with this message at Feb 17, 2009 around 17:28

Alucard
Mar 11, 2002


A hint for anyone playing campaign about the tank:

If someone is incapacitated and the tank is still bashing them, you can distract the tank by melee'ing him in the back. He will then focus on you and someone can save the incapacitated player.

CzarStark
Dec 23, 2007

Give me your heart and your soul


Spockly posted:

You have the hunting rifle listed incorrectly. It's 15 shots instead of 10.

But you'd really only need this information if you wanted to be useless. Otherwise you'd grab a real gun. Like any of the other ones.

Xanin
Nov 20, 2008


@OP

A useful thing to add would be the command to force connect to a specific server, such as your great server, auto! It comes up a lot in chat.

Badfinger
Dec 16, 2004



Asked this in the other thread, moved it to here:

Last night playing NM5 during the finale, right at a tank spawn after the music and rumbling began, I shoved a boomer off the roof and shot him. The tank ran up, I chucked a molotov, jumped off the building... and got slimed. I'm 99% sure that 30 seconds had not gone by yet, but even if they had it would have been like 32 seconds and there was no way a boomer could have gotten into that position without someone seeing it in the time.

Is there ANY way the team could have gotten multiple boomers inside of 30 seconds? It's really unlikely that it was more than that.

And as an aside

Playing Survivor as the survivors is a hell of a lot of fun to break up the monotony of corner crouching your way through levels. Every man for themselves, don't look back, activate panic events and sprint. As long as everyone's game for it it really is a lot of fun.

CreamCheese
Oct 23, 2002



Whoa, an new thread started by someone who actually owns the game. What ever happened to those goon teams that were going to play CAL? Did that ever happen?

Regicide
May 26, 2008


You should point out in the OP that adding 'add -serverbrowser' to your launch options adds a server browser option to your main menu.

Swilo
Jun 02, 2004
ANIME SUCKS HARD

Badfinger posted:

Is there ANY way the team could have gotten multiple boomers inside of 30 seconds? It's really unlikely that it was more than that.
30 seconds is roughly the respawn per person, not per special infected. If a hunter died 15 seconds before the first boomer there's a chance he could spawn as another one in a close enough spot.

Regicide
May 26, 2008


Somebody should tell me how to get more control over my voice commands. I know a bunch of scripts popped up in like the 2nd mega thread but I wasn't really playing much then.

Strabo4
Jun 01, 2007

Look at you, 'sperger: a pathetic creature of meat and bone, panting and sweating as you read through my CYOA. How can you challenge a perfect, immoral machine?

Regicide posted:

You should point out in the OP that adding 'add -serverbrowser' to your launch options adds a server browser option to your main menu.

gently caress yes.

Scalding Coffee
Jun 26, 2006

Inflicts intense burning on your crotch

@@@@@@@
A boomer explosion can rip off doors and then hit someone who is behind it if they are within the random range that the explosion decides to reach.

I have seen Boomers respawn within a short timeframe.

Burrito
May 09, 2006

who the fuck sucks cunt where u livng in wht century u liek in fuk off

Propane and oxygen tanks can send the tank stumbling. Sometimes off of a building. Sometimes after Bill has lead you over there and you didn't notice that Louis and Francis are chasing you since you're not getting shot. Sometimes they throw it and Francis shoots it while it's in the air and you get knocked off the building and realize how god damned pro your opponents truly are.

Then you get them back by using the smoker to pull Francis away from the helicopter and off the edge of the pad, giving the tank enough time to get up next to the chopper himself.

Scalding Coffee
Jun 26, 2006

Inflicts intense burning on your crotch

You can end finales with infected in the rescue vehicles and they continue to tear up the survivors. You can probably do the same with a friendly Tank.

That -novid command is a ton of relief.

Unlucky7
Jul 11, 2006
Not the face!

I gave in and got the game yesterday (Thank you Valve for extending that sale!). I only played one Co-Op game, but its great fun, and I am really impressed how sound works into the game as a whole.

Though I was sort of mistaken in thinking that the DLC would include new maps, instead of putting the other two campaigns into the Versus. Aw well.

Regicide
May 26, 2008


I just played Dead City... did I get to the end of the first part? Nope.

You're insane. I went through it as a dead infected and jesus christ... how many parts are there? The poo poo we have to go through in the first one is almost as long as a normal campaign.

exmorte
Dec 09, 2007

I'm playing a much cleverer game than that..I'm a fake hawk.


Regicide posted:

Somebody should tell me how to get more control over my voice commands. I know a bunch of scripts popped up in like the 2nd mega thread but I wasn't really playing much then.

Anything in particular you are looking for?
This is what I have,

"Francis AKA That huge douche
"vocalize ConceptBlock709;" We sing a song I Hate..."
"vocalize ConceptBlock044;" share some wise words on others, "Zombies/Assholes"
"vocalize ConceptBlock527;"That dialouge a the end of the level with the boat,
"vocalize ConceptBlock632;" Francis abuses authority by claiming "We're Cops"
"vocalize ConceptBlock635;" Oh those little white lies "I'm Handsome"
"vocalize ConceptBlock721;" He says some mean stuff, "Go to hell"
"vocalize ConceptBlock637;" Francis tells zoey about her "Pretty Mouth"
"vocalize ConceptBlock712;" francis lets us know of his one true love "Vests"

Zoey, AKA That one chick with the loving obnoxious death sound
"vocalize ConceptBlock620;" and she calls "Louis an Optimist"
"vocalize ConceptBlock654;" well, "So, uhm.. Yea"
"vocalize ConceptBlock657;" and she gets Louis started on how they are Unstoppable
"vocalize ConceptBlock661;" and her and bill have a nice chuckle

Bill, AKA Lt. Badass
"vocalize ConceptBlock611;;" we have some flashbacks to a "War of Attrition"
"vocalize ConceptBlock696;" and you chide they're "Zombies Francis!"
"vocalize ConceptBlock712;" and he asks "Francis is there anything you don't hate?
"vocalize ConceptBlock663;" lets loose a "Who-ho-ho!"


Louis AKA Black Thunder
"vocalize ConceptBlock019;" and he threatans to "Beat With Gun" (This could trigger the panic event in DT at one point(?), don't know if it still does)
"vocalize ConceptBlock610;" gives you "Bounce Back"
"vocalize ConceptBlock619;" gives you "Bounce Back"
"vocalize ConceptBlock628;" yeilds "Zombies Francis
"vocalize ConceptBlock656;" unleashes "Unstoppable

I'd be interested in seeing a list with more of these and what they say. And commands for things like zoey's obnoxious screaming.

Talandar
Dec 29, 2008


Regicide posted:

You should point out in the OP that adding 'add -serverbrowser' to your launch options adds a server browser option to your main menu.

@OP
It's not 'add -serverbrowser' it's just '-serverbrowser'. The 'add' doesn't mess with anything, but it's not necessary.

Judakel
Jul 29, 2004

I still don't think so... Bitch!


I would really like to encourage new players with questions (not everyone) to post their Steam IDs. I would love to play with some of you anyway and sometimes you get requests like in the last thread where someone wanted to familiarize themselves with the infected before playing a proper VS game. I have no problem kiting bots around as a survivor for these newbies and giving some tips in-game.

Also, nothing beats a human player when it comes to teaching some basic strategies that the game's tips don't mention.

The problem is, without your Steam ID you probably won't get any of my help because, if you just show up on the Goon4Dead chatroom, I'll probably be busy breaking ElBrak's tongue just as he drags the last survivor to enter the safe room.

Anonononomous
Jul 01, 2007


You should post the infected guide videos that Mo Steel (I think) made.

Shumagorath
Jun 06, 2001


Regicide posted:

I just played Dead City... did I get to the end of the first part? Nope.

You're insane. I went through it as a dead infected and jesus christ... how many parts are there? The poo poo we have to go through in the first one is almost as long as a normal campaign.
I welcome any first map that isn't boring as hell without a Tank.

Regicide
May 26, 2008


Shumagorath posted:

I welcome any first map that isn't boring as hell without a Tank.

Well, I got two tanks.

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