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DeathByDoubleDip
Feb 9, 2009


DkHelmet posted:

Buy all three?

Might end up doing just that. The Henry H001 is still going for $250 + 35 DROS and the guy with the CZ452 Military Trainer (500rds shot through it) is asking $400 out the door for the rifle itself, spare 10rd mag, canvas case and Rock Mount bipod. Figure I can probably sell the bipod to recoup some of the money, but I'm conflicted since a fresh new CZ wouldn't cost that much more.

DeathByDoubleDip fucked around with this message at Sep 27, 2011 around 04:03

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ShaneB
Oct 21, 2002



Ruger MkII upgrades that will be ordered after payday:

Volquartsen Accurizing Kit

Volquartsen Ruger Mark II Volthane Grip

Volquartsen Extended Magazine Release

Someone stop me if I'm making any mistakes.

ilkhan
Oct 7, 2004
A woman has 100% control of the pregnancy status of her body, except in cases of rape


As suppressors go in the USA .22LR is as cheap as you can get. Quality centerfire suppressors are $650+ whereas you can get a 22LR suppressor for around 250-400.
Since the transfer tax is $200 you really don't want to cheap out.

BadgerMan45
Dec 30, 2009


ShaneB posted:

Ruger MkII upgrades that will be ordered after payday:

Volquartsen Accurizing Kit

Volquartsen Ruger Mark II Volthane Grip

Volquartsen Extended Magazine Release

Someone stop me if I'm making any mistakes.

You may not have any problems but I was getting some light strikes after I installed the accurizing kit so I picked up their heavy duty firing pin and that fixed it for me.

DkHelmet
Jul 10, 2001

I pity the foal...


ShaneB posted:

Ruger MkII upgrades that will be ordered after payday:

Volquartsen Accurizing Kit

Volquartsen Ruger Mark II Volthane Grip

Volquartsen Extended Magazine Release

Someone stop me if I'm making any mistakes.

You could probably save some cash and just get the VQ trigger and sear. I don't see any real need for a light, skeletonized hammer on a Ruger Mk, but that's just me. I've heard of light strikes with the VQ hammer and replacing it with the stock one cures it.

king of the bongo
Apr 26, 2008

If you're brown, GET DOWN!


DeathByDoubleDip posted:

Might end up doing just that. The Henry H001 is still going for $250 + 35 DROS and the guy with the CZ452 Military Trainer (500rds shot through it) is asking $400 out the door for the rifle itself, spare 10rd mag, canvas case and Rock Mount bipod. Figure I can probably sell the bipod to recoup some of the money, but I'm conflicted since a fresh new CZ wouldn't cost that much more.

Not sure how high the prices are in CA but a new cz should cost a lot less actually. Check whittakerguns.com and go to new rimfires for a quick cz price list.

ShaneB
Oct 21, 2002



DkHelmet posted:

You could probably save some cash and just get the VQ trigger and sear. I don't see any real need for a light, skeletonized hammer on a Ruger Mk, but that's just me. I've heard of light strikes with the VQ hammer and replacing it with the stock one cures it.

OK. I'll compare the pricing. The full kit is on sale and pretty freaking cheap atm.

A FUCKIN CANARY!!
Nov 9, 2005



DeathByDoubleDip posted:

Stupid question. I was looking at bolt-action .22's (the Savage MkII and the CZ452 in particular), and I was wondering if you could retract the bolt and simply load several cartridges into the exposed breech and straight down into the magazine, like with some surplus centerfire bolt-action rifles.

CZ makes a "single shot adapter", which consists of a plastic block that fits into the magwell. I use one whenever I'm not shooting offhand and it's pretty handy.

I just got a new 452 Trainer earlier this month from Walmart for $352, so I'd definitely pass on that used one.

DeathByDoubleDip
Feb 9, 2009


Seems like the cheapest I can find a Trainer for around here is ~350, before DROS + taxes. I still have to haul rear end down to a Walmart and ask about that special order pricing though. Thanks for the PDF on that.

Roundboy
Oct 21, 2008


DkHelmet posted:

You could probably save some cash and just get the VQ trigger and sear. I don't see any real need for a light, skeletonized hammer on a Ruger Mk, but that's just me. I've heard of light strikes with the VQ hammer and replacing it with the stock one cures it.

the trigger and sear are 91% of the cost of the kit if bought alone. its annoying.

Spime Wrangler
Feb 23, 2003

Because we can.


Dont get the trigger, get the sear and hammer bushing. It should be like $30 all told and works wonders. From what I understand all you're really missing out on with the trigger is a pretravel adjustment.

edit: ok $40

Spime Wrangler fucked around with this message at Sep 27, 2011 around 15:46

Roundboy
Oct 21, 2008


Spime Wrangler posted:

Dont get the trigger, get the sear and hammer bushing. It should be like $30 all told and works wonders. From what I understand all you're really missing out on with the trigger is a pretravel adjustment.

edit: ok $40

midway has only the trigger.. and pretravel is pretty huge (at least on my ruger)

looking for the bushing and sear in stock somewhere. Is the bushing the thing that we all replace in the mkiii to get rid of the mag safety ?

Spime Wrangler
Feb 23, 2003

Because we can.


Yeah, I'm pretty sure the bushing is the thing everyone replaces. It looks like VQ only does MkII bushings anyways, but that shouldn't be a problem. I guess the pretravel doesn't really bother me. At least not $40 worth of top priority bother.

You can get whatever straight from volquartsen: https://www.volquartsen.com/categor...ts/4-mkii-mkiii

I've had an ok experience buying from them. Shipping was a little slow, but no problems other than that. Replacing just those two parts was like night and day.

Edit: Though I will admit I'll probably get the disconnector, trigger, and hammer at some point to try and get rid of that last bit of creep. I found this review/install guide just now that makes a pretty good case for the trigger...

Spime Wrangler fucked around with this message at Sep 27, 2011 around 16:51

A FUCKIN CANARY!!
Nov 9, 2005



I just ordered some Tech Sights for my CZ 452, but after doing some more reading I'm a bit worried about something. Is it true that they don't have enough adjustment range to zero them at 25 yards instead of 50?

ShaneB
Oct 21, 2002



Spime Wrangler posted:

Yeah, I'm pretty sure the bushing is the thing everyone replaces. It looks like VQ only does MkII bushings anyways, but that shouldn't be a problem. I guess the pretravel doesn't really bother me. At least not $40 worth of top priority bother.

You can get whatever straight from volquartsen: https://www.volquartsen.com/categor...ts/4-mkii-mkiii

I've had an ok experience buying from them. Shipping was a little slow, but no problems other than that. Replacing just those two parts was like night and day.

Edit: Though I will admit I'll probably get the disconnector, trigger, and hammer at some point to try and get rid of that last bit of creep. I found this review/install guide just now that makes a pretty good case for the trigger...

Thanks for finding that guide, it's great.

Dr Ozziemandius
Apr 28, 2011

If MLP doesn't warm your heart, you're already Dead Inside.

ShaneB posted:

Ruger MkII upgrades that will be ordered after payday:

Volquartsen Accurizing Kit

Volquartsen Ruger Mark II Volthane Grip

Volquartsen Extended Magazine Release

Someone stop me if I'm making any mistakes.

If you get the Volthane grips, it comes with the extended mag release and slide stop. Personally, I did all these and loved it, except the Volthane grips were a little too weird for my hands. I have thick palms and stubby fingers, and I couldn't get a good grip. I took the grips back off and stuck with the cocobolo thumb grips I already had, and was much happier with it. If you have long fingers, the Volthane grip may be alright for you. Try one out with it if you can.

ShaneB
Oct 21, 2002



Dr Ozziemandius posted:

If you get the Volthane grips, it comes with the extended mag release and slide stop.

Oh, that's good to know. Saves money.

Insane Totoro
Dec 5, 2005

Take cover!!!
That Totoro has an AR-15!


Are there iron sights for the FVSR?

Black Stormy
Apr 1, 2003



Insane Totoro posted:

Are there iron sights for the FVSR?

It doesn't come with irons.

Insane Totoro
Dec 5, 2005

Take cover!!!
That Totoro has an AR-15!


Black Stormy posted:

It doesn't come with irons.

Er, are there irons I can buy for it?

DJExile
Jun 27, 2007



Insane Totoro posted:

Er, are there irons I can buy for it?

You could probably find a way to drill them in, but drat near every Savage on the market, save one or two of them, are meant for scopes to be mounted.

Insane Totoro
Dec 5, 2005

Take cover!!!
That Totoro has an AR-15!


Well, uh, isn't there a rail you can put anything on it that you want on the FVSR?

Flaming Iguana
Dec 24, 2001
I got this account for Xmas.

Insane Totoro posted:

Well, uh, isn't there a rail you can put anything on it that you want on the FVSR?

The receiver mounted rail might accommodate a rear sight, but you'd still need to figure out how to attach a front sight to the barrel.

Roundboy
Oct 21, 2008


Flaming Iguana posted:

The receiver mounted rail might accommodate a rear sight, but you'd still need to figure out how to attach a front sight to the barrel.

weld a shotgun bead ?

DJExile
Jun 27, 2007



Flaming Iguana posted:

The receiver mounted rail might accommodate a rear sight, but you'd still need to figure out how to attach a front sight to the barrel.

Yeah this is the thing. You could get a rear sight on without much of a problem, but drilling and tapping for a front sight would probably be more effort/cost than its worth.

Black Stormy
Apr 1, 2003



Roundboy posted:

weld a shotgun bead ?

The difference in height would be... Problematic.

Mad Dragon
Feb 29, 2004



Black Stormy posted:

The difference in height would be... Problematic.

That depends on what ranges you're shooting at.

Roundboy
Oct 21, 2008


Black Stormy posted:

The difference in height would be... Problematic.

all it needs is the proper holdover.

DJExile
Jun 27, 2007



Black Stormy posted:

The difference in height would be... Problematic.

Hey sometimes a guy wants to volley-fire a .22LR, what's wrong with that?

Spime Wrangler
Feb 23, 2003

Because we can.


Wanted: 1000yd range in central UP for .22LR indirect fire target practice

Steak Flavored Gum
Apr 26, 2007

ABANDONED HOMEWORLD FOR SALE, CHEAP!!!
Custom desert-marsh conversion in galactic core, 12% oxygen atm., great weather, friendly native life (missing one moon). Great fix-er-upper. Must sell, alien invasion imminent. $3995 or best offer.

Mr_Person posted:

I just ordered some Tech Sights for my CZ 452, but after doing some more reading I'm a bit worried about something. Is it true that they don't have enough adjustment range to zero them at 25 yards instead of 50?

I zeroed at 25, but it required my to slide the front blade all the way to the top of the ramp.

hangedman
Dec 20, 2003

Fish out of water

DeathByDoubleDip posted:

Seems like the cheapest I can find a Trainer for around here is ~350, before DROS + taxes. I still have to haul rear end down to a Walmart and ask about that special order pricing though. Thanks for the PDF on that.

Hey, DoubleDip: you were at Firing Line last Friday with the Walther, right? I was the guy down at the far end with the Mossberg .22. I checked the Calguns thread after I left and recognized your user name. I was going to tell you about this forum, but it looks like you already found it!

I also forgot to mention looking into Winchester Wildcats. The gun, not the ammo. It's a rebranded Russian bolt-action that has a lot of admirers on this forum, and it should come in about $100 or so cheaper than the 45x series.

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infrared35
Jan 12, 2005



Spime Wrangler posted:

Wanted: 1000yd range in central UP for .22LR indirect fire target practice

Pfft. A thousand yards? Amateur. Assuming a 100-yard zero, .22LR will only have a 250-foot drop at 1000 yards.

DeathByDoubleDip
Feb 9, 2009


hangedman posted:

Hey, DoubleDip: you were at Firing Line last Friday with the Walther, right? I was the guy down at the far end with the Mossberg .22. I checked the Calguns thread after I left and recognized your user name. I was going to tell you about this forum, but it looks like you already found it!

I also forgot to mention looking into Winchester Wildcats. The gun, not the ammo. It's a rebranded Russian bolt-action that has a lot of admirers on this forum, and it should come in about $100 or so cheaper than the 45x series.

Haha, bingo, that's me. Still haven't posted pics of the Walther to clog up the milsurp thread yet.

Will look out for the Wildcats then. I was actually planning on stopping by M.B. Retting in Culver City to actually compare the feel on the .22LR bolt/lever-actions I just mentioned. Thanks for the suggestion!

MazeOfTzeentch
May 2, 2009

since we're talking
about primaries


infrared35 posted:

Pfft. A thousand yards? Amateur. Assuming a 100-yard zero, .22LR will only have a 250-foot drop at 1000 yards.

Time to get some 22lr tracers.

e: handloads.com/calc says 2697 inchfoot drop at 1000yd

Assuming:
1200 fps at the muzzle
40 grain bullet
.145 ballistic coefficient
1.5" sight height
100 yd zero

e2: oh gently caress that's inches, you're pretty much right

e3: MORE MATHS

Roughly 4.5 degrees of elevation to get that impact

MazeOfTzeentch fucked around with this message at Sep 28, 2011 around 03:11

stealie72
Jan 10, 2007

Their eyes locked and suddenly there was the sound of breaking glass.


Well, after a lot of handwringing, and help from goons, I went to the local gun shop and held some 22s. I wasn't happy with the way a lot of them felt, even the bigger, longer ones that I thought I wanted.

Then one caught my eye.

All of those 22 chambered ARs and AKs don't hold a candle to a .22 M1 Carbine:



What's that you say, it looks nothing like an M1 Carbine?

Then why would Marlin call it the Model 99M1? Look at those sling swivels! The way the stock narrows at the front swivel. It's exactly like an M1 Carbine, only tube fed, with a different stock profile, and a different looking bolt. It's still brown wood and steel, dammit.

But wait, that's not even a Marlin, it's a Glenfield. Apparently, the main mechanical difference is a longer tube on the Glenfield, so in this case, I'm pretty much OK with it being the lower-end version.

Extra bonus, if the internet is to be believed, it's the same age as me.

Going to get it cleaned up and head to the range this weekend. I'm excited.

A FUCKIN CANARY!!
Nov 9, 2005



Playing with that ballistic calculator, it looks like a 25 yard and 45-55 yard zero are almost identical, assuming 40 gr high velocity. I knew .22 dropped quickly, but not THAT quickly. Blows my mind and solves my sight zeroing problem.

blahz
Dec 18, 2004


I stopped by Sportman's Warehouse today and they had a Sig 522 for $400 new and I'm seriously tempted to buy it.

The price seems pretty drat amazing as far as I can tell, though from looking at it online this is supposed to also come with an extra barrel. I didn't ask but if it's new I can't imagine it not coming with that.

Edit: What would be a good option for a scope or a red dot from Primary Arms be?

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DJExile
Jun 27, 2007



blahz posted:

I stopped by Sportman's Warehouse today and they had a Sig 522 for $400 new and I'm seriously tempted to buy it.

The price seems pretty drat amazing as far as I can tell, though from looking at it online this is supposed to also come with an extra barrel. I didn't ask but if it's new I can't imagine it not coming with that.

Edit: What would be a good option for a scope or a red dot from Primary Arms be?

Not sure why there'd be a second barrel for a dedicated .22 rifle but regardless that is a solid deal. Any of the basic $90-99 PA red dots should suit it just fine.

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Dr Ozziemandius
Apr 28, 2011

If MLP doesn't warm your heart, you're already Dead Inside.

Well, I added another .22 to the stable this week. Anschutz 64MS. I'd been watching them for a while on gunbroker, and got a really good deal on this one. The stock's got a couple of marks on it, but nothing major. I'll put a scope on it this Friday. I'm taking my boards Saturday, so Sunday's going to be my first range day in almost a month.


Ozzie sliding through in the background.

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