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PirateDentist
Mar 28, 2006

Sailing The Seven Seas Searching For Scurvy

Has anyone ever used the carbine kit for the Neos?




E: For all the new Neos owners. $15 mags. http://www.cdnninvestments.com/bene2210stfa.html I have 4 of these, besides missing the words around the base of them, they're identical.

PirateDentist fucked around with this message at Aug 11, 2010 around 21:20

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Chill_Bebop
Jun 20, 2007

Waffle SS

PirateDentist posted:

Has anyone ever used the carbine kit for the Neos?




E: For all the new Neos owners. $15 mags. http://www.cdnninvestments.com/bene2210stfa.html I have 4 of these, besides missing the words around the base of them, they're identical.

They used to be $9

The Carbine Kit looks pretty rad, but its also kind of pricey. It costs a little more than the actual firearm.

Insane Totoro
Dec 5, 2005

Take cover!!!
That Totoro has an AR-15!


So let me get this straight.

The Beretta Neos is a Hi-Standard on the inside...

... with a cool space gun exterior?

Why do I not own one of these?

DJExile
Jun 27, 2007



Insane Totoro posted:

So let me get this straight.

The Beretta Neos is a Hi-Standard on the inside...

... with a cool space gun exterior?

Why do I not own one of these?

They're pretty drat great. You can find them for $250 or less pretty easily.

Insane Totoro
Dec 5, 2005

Take cover!!!
That Totoro has an AR-15!


It's not a copy of one of the "avoid, burn with fire" Hi-Standards, right?

Ooooooh, it even comes with an optics rail. Now maybe I should go cancel that Buckmark order that my local gun store seems incapable of filling.

SadWhaleFamily
May 1, 2007



Neoses (Neës?) loving rock. Put it in the carbine kit and it loving fuckingly rocks.

Insane Totoro
Dec 5, 2005

Take cover!!!
That Totoro has an AR-15!


Cabela's has the basic Neos for $250. I have $150 in credit card cashback that I can redeem (essentially free money) for Cabela's gift cards.

Jump on it?

BitBasher
Jun 6, 2004

Shoot straight, conserve ammo, and never ever cut a deal with a dragon.

My only beef with my neos is the shape of the slide. It's shaped like a U with the open portion facing you. even when lubed up if I grip the slide by the serrations and try to operate it it locks up solid from the pressure of me squeezing it together. If I reach over the gun and use my index finger and thumb to grip the very front of the slide, then it works perfectly. Just a minor annoyance, really.

Maybe it's just me. It shoots great though.

Wendigee
Jul 19, 2004



Anyone ever used a Marlin 795 for an appleseed (http://www.appleseedinfo.org/) shoot?

I'm seeing the gun for 125 after rebate at gander mountain.. and 70 bucks for a set of aperture sights from tech-sights.

If the gun isn't crap it seems like a much more economical version of the 10/22 build.

Roadtard
May 24, 2008

The Sonnensault


Wendigee posted:

Anyone ever used a Marlin 795 for an appleseed (http://www.appleseedinfo.org/) shoot?

I'm seeing the gun for 125 after rebate at gander mountain.. and 70 bucks for a set of aperture sights from tech-sights.

If the gun isn't crap it seems like a much more economical version of the 10/22 build.

I have one and I've shot an appleseed with it. It's a nice accurate .22 with a pretty much nonexistent aftermarket. No one makes hi-cap mags for it so Marlin 10 rounders are the largest available save some near impossible to find 15 rounders that aren't made anymore.

Wendigee
Jul 19, 2004



Yeah I'm not too concerned with the aftermarket. I really just want a simple aperture sight .22 for appleseed and marksmanship practice. Thanks for your input!

thermobollocks
Jul 5, 2009

GET A DILLON

Cheap Bourbon posted:

If you want to go the no drill and tap method, I think B-square makes a mount. I have not personally used them, but they appear to be solid and somewhat inexpensive.

The Weigand no drill style is what I would tend to use, I just don't prefer to have my guns permanently mucked with.

Damned if these guys aren't prompt. I've got one of these sitting in my dainty little paws right now, and it seems pretty nice.

Now I just have to douse my rear sight in penetrating oil until it feels like moving.

Cheap Bourbon
Apr 13, 2010


thermobollocks posted:

Damned if these guys aren't prompt. I've got one of these sitting in my dainty little paws right now, and it seems pretty nice.

Now I just have to douse my rear sight in penetrating oil until it feels like moving.

Glad I could assist in the "poo poo I've never tried, but wanted to" category.

Edit: Its a drift punch to remove "Left to Right" and install "right to Left"


remove the set-screw before punching poo poo around.....

Cheap Bourbon fucked around with this message at Aug 13, 2010 around 04:01

thermobollocks
Jul 5, 2009

GET A DILLON

Cheap Bourbon posted:

Glad I could assist in the "poo poo I've never tried, but wanted to" category.

Edit: Its a drift punch to remove "Left to Right" and install "right to Left"


remove the set-screw before punching poo poo around.....

Set screw? Like in the trigger group, or something that screws into the underside of the sight assembly? I looked, and there's nothing.

Problem #1: The directions said I could go either L->R or R->L. This is wrong?
Problem #2: poo poo, my takedown lever won't go. It's a Ruger
Problem #3: The auto parts stores are closed and I need penetrating oil.

thermobollocks fucked around with this message at Aug 13, 2010 around 04:25

SadWhaleFamily
May 1, 2007



Insane Totoro posted:

Cabela's has the basic Neos for $250. I have $150 in credit card cashback that I can redeem (essentially free money) for Cabela's gift cards.

Jump on it?

NIB Neos for what amounts to $100? JUMP ON IT

Also BitBasher, do you have meaty bear paws with the grip strength of bear traps or something? Neither I nor anyone I know who've shot the Neos (it's like six people, though) have had that problem.

Insane Totoro
Dec 5, 2005

Take cover!!!
That Totoro has an AR-15!


SadWhaleFamily posted:

NIB Neos for what amounts to $100? JUMP ON IT

Oh hell I just got another coupon in the mail for another $50 off.

I can't not do this, right?

Carbohydrates
Nov 22, 2006

Listen, Mr. Kansas Law Dog.
Law don't go around here.
Savvy?


Insane Totoro posted:

Oh hell I just got another coupon in the mail for another $50 off.

I can't not do this, right?
You should be writing up your box thread right now.

Miso Beno
Apr 29, 2004

Try to Catch Me Ridin' Dirty


Insane Totoro posted:

Oh hell I just got another coupon in the mail for another $50 off.

I can't not do this, right?

STOP TALKING ABOUT IT AND DO IT ALREADY.


(Come on man, quit holding out on us man.)

DJExile
Jun 27, 2007



Seriously buy the goddamned Neos dude.

Also Wendigee how do those mags work?

lifenomad
May 8, 2009




Wendigee posted:

Anyone ever used a Marlin 795 for an appleseed (http://www.appleseedinfo.org/) shoot?

Appleseed has actually gone from recommending the 10/22 as their LTR (Liberty Training Rifle) to the Marlin 795. It seems to be more accurate, plus the Marlin is easier to see if it's loaded or not. Visually seeing the magazine is easier with the Marlin, and the last shot bolt hold open.

My Marlin 795 is purely setup as a LTR. It is by far the most fun for the money IMO.

Insane Totoro
Dec 5, 2005

Take cover!!!
That Totoro has an AR-15!


Miso Beno posted:

STOP TALKING ABOUT IT AND DO IT ALREADY.


(Come on man, quit holding out on us man.)

Applying for the cashback credit right now.

Will post box thread when done.

The Jabberwock
Nov 17, 2005

That was my captain. I'm a pirate.

Here at TFR, we use peer pressure to make other people buy guns, so the more compulsive gun purchasers feel validated.


* edit - On a slightly relevant note, which wins for overall awesome - a Marlin 39a or a CZ 452 FS? I'm pretty much down to these two for my .22 rifle, and actually leaning towards the Marlin, since I want a CZ 550FS in 6.5 later down the road.

The Jabberwock fucked around with this message at Aug 13, 2010 around 16:48

DJExile
Jun 27, 2007



The Jabberwock posted:

Here at TFR, we use peer pressure to make other people buy guns, so the more compulsive gun purchasers feel validated.

It always works for me!

Capn Beeb
Jun 29, 2003

Can it be fired with a massive erection?



The Jabberwock posted:

Here at TFR, we use peer pressure to make other people buy guns, so the more compulsive gun purchasers feel validated.


* edit - On a slightly relevant note, which wins for overall awesome - a Marlin 39a or a CZ 452 FS? I'm pretty much down to these two for my .22 rifle, and actually leaning towards the Marlin, since I want a CZ 550FS in 6.5 later down the road.

Get an AAC Czechmate

then give it to me

Chill_Bebop
Jun 20, 2007

Waffle SS

Insane Totoro posted:

So let me get this straight.

The Beretta Neos is a Hi-Standard on the inside...

... with a cool space gun exterior?

Why do I not own one of these?

The trigger is pretty poor out of the box, but http://hexidismal.awardspace.com/ < this fixes it up, so I'm told.

Also there are many people who dislike Duramatics.

I've already put a full 500 rounds or so through the Neos. In brief, here's a summary-

The grip is very slim, but its also very comfortable to hold. I can switch pretty easilyt between a Luger style rake and an upright 1911 style grip, both are comfortable for me. If you like the stock Ruger mk1/2/3 grip, you'll like this. The swell in the back of the grip is nice.

However, the Saftey digs into your thumb. Look at the position of it: in a high, tight hold, the lower part of the safety lever will dig in. It bugged me more the first time, for whatever reason it did not yesterday.

The Trigger is pretty lackluster. Heavy takeup with a light break, with creep in the middle. We'll see if it smooths out, if it doesnt i'll just perform the trigger mod I just linked to. I've definately felt worse triggers, though.

The Takedown, Integral Rail, and Ammo selection is easily the best features of the gun. Field Stripping is VERY easy, and doesnt mess up zero with irons or red dots. Also, speaking of Red Dots, use them. The Stock Neos sights are way too big. They were obscuring my target almost entirely at 15 yards. The Ammo Selection is great: I ran any and every kind of rimfire I had through it. Federal, CCI, Aquila, X-Pert, Winchester, Lapua SK, and some old oddballs, it ate them al like a champ. Everything but Remington, because I refuse to use that lovely stuff.

Overall, its a very reliable gun, extremely fun, and once I mastered the trigger and started using my red dot, started getting great groups pretty regularly. Loading mags is a cinch, they are cheap to own, and for under $250, you really can't go wrong. I'm glad I got this instead of a 22/45. That said- In the future I would still like to own a basic Ruger Mk2 to accompany this. I like its performance, trigger, and aftermarket more. But for $220, this is a fantastic plinker.

Insane Totoro
Dec 5, 2005

Take cover!!!
That Totoro has an AR-15!


Also it looks really cool like a seaQuest DSV laser pew pew pew sidearm.

Now that I'm essentially locked into this purchase by ordering my cashback rewards, I have to start lusting after aftermarket accessories.

I was recommended these optics by a friend. Good choice for the Neos? My concern is always that something will be too heavy on such a small pistol. I'm looking at something just to screw around with at informal bullseye shoots.
http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduc...ctNumber=179627

Black Stormy
Apr 1, 2003



Capn Beeb posted:

Get an AAC Czechmate

then give it to me

Buyin of these.

Chill_Bebop
Jun 20, 2007

Waffle SS

Insane Totoro posted:

Also it looks really cool like a seaQuest DSV laser pew pew pew sidearm.

Now that I'm essentially locked into this purchase by ordering my cashback rewards, I have to start lusting after aftermarket accessories.

I was recommended these optics by a friend. Good choice for the Neos? My concern is always that something will be too heavy on such a small pistol. I'm looking at something just to screw around with at informal bullseye shoots.
http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduc...ctNumber=179627

I was just using a BSA Red Dot and an old walther tube. Anything works.

Wendigee
Jul 19, 2004



DJExile posted:

Seriously buy the goddamned Neos dude.

Also Wendigee how do those mags work?

They are working good, thanks again!

Do you ever have any problems with your bolt not staying open after the last round is fired? My g22 just started doing that and while not the end of the world, it is a bit annoying to click the trigger on an empty chamber.

DJExile
Jun 27, 2007



Wendigee posted:

They are working good, thanks again!

Do you ever have any problems with your bolt not staying open after the last round is fired? My g22 just started doing that and while not the end of the world, it is a bit annoying to click the trigger on an empty chamber.

I had this issue a bit when I started out with mine. Might just need to break the spring in a bit. It does seem to run better with high-velocity ammo.

Cheap Bourbon
Apr 13, 2010


thermobollocks posted:

Set screw? Like in the trigger group, or something that screws into the underside of the sight assembly? I looked, and there's nothing.

Problem #1: The directions said I could go either L->R or R->L. This is wrong?
Problem #2: poo poo, my takedown lever won't go. It's a Ruger
Problem #3: The auto parts stores are closed and I need penetrating oil.


1) rear-sight removal. Set screw is on the rear sight, remove that first before pounding stuff out. Brass punch is ideal here.


2) Gun is cocked/partially cocked or hammer isnt fully forward. make sure its unloaded, remove the mag, make sure its unloaded, dry fire (if this is a MkIII, make sure the mag is unloaded, make sure the chamber is unloaded, insert unloaded mag, dry fire).

3) Errmm, dunno how to help you there, some AI recommend a homemade mix of 1part ATF and 1 part Acetone for penetrating oil.

thermobollocks
Jul 5, 2009

GET A DILLON

Cheap Bourbon posted:

1) rear-sight removal. Set screw is on the rear sight, remove that first before pounding stuff out. Brass punch is ideal here.


2) Gun is cocked/partially cocked or hammer isnt fully forward. make sure its unloaded, remove the mag, make sure its unloaded, dry fire (if this is a MkIII, make sure the mag is unloaded, make sure the chamber is unloaded, insert unloaded mag, dry fire).

3) Errmm, dunno how to help you there, some AI recommend a homemade mix of 1part ATF and 1 part Acetone for penetrating oil.

I have fixed rear sights, hence no set screw. They still look like a dovetail assembly I should be able to drift out, though.

Cheap Bourbon
Apr 13, 2010


If your goal is to replace with the ruger adjustable sights, you will probably have to replace the front sight as well with a taller one.

thermobollocks
Jul 5, 2009

GET A DILLON

Cheap Bourbon posted:

If your goal is to replace with the ruger adjustable sights, you will probably have to replace the front sight as well with a taller one.

Remember that scope mount from a page or so back? That's my goal.
Also, if I ever do manage this, I have a wonderful and terrible idea.

Edit: MOTHERFUCKER

thermobollocks fucked around with this message at Aug 14, 2010 around 05:22

The Jabberwock
Nov 17, 2005

That was my captain. I'm a pirate.

Capn Beeb posted:

AAC Czechmate


Why did you inform me of the existence of such a thing? Jesus, even supplying your own 452, it's 1.5x the cost of the gun itself AND AWESOME!

Hopefully I will never be able to justify spending a grand on a .22 rifle.

Capn Beeb
Jun 29, 2003

Can it be fired with a massive erection?



The Jabberwock posted:

Why did you inform me of the existence of such a thing?

I found out about them through subguns yesterday and went from to in roughly 0.391 seconds. God drat what a great idea.

Insane Totoro
Dec 5, 2005

Take cover!!!
That Totoro has an AR-15!


The Jabberwock posted:

Here at TFR, we use peer pressure to make other people buy guns, so the more compulsive gun purchasers feel validated.

gently caress YOU ALL I HAD A DREAM ABOUT BUYING GUNS LAST NIGHT

Mike Hawk
Jan 4, 2010


Im thinking of buying a Neos and painting it with the nintendo zap gun paint scheme. Is this a good idea or a great idea?

Cheap Bourbon
Apr 13, 2010


thermobollocks posted:

Remember that scope mount from a page or so back? That's my goal.
Also, if I ever do manage this, I have a wonderful and terrible idea.

Edit: MOTHERFUCKER

poo poo, I'm going to claim ignorance on the fixed sight models now....

I am not 100% about the fixed sights being compatible with the Weigland models. The So-low and B-squares should be no issue, but I'd call the manufacturer (if you havent done so already) and inquire before knocking poo poo off your gun.

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DJExile
Jun 27, 2007



Mike Hawk posted:

great idea

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