|
Pubic Lair posted:Nope I'm from Il but right on the border so I hit Wi to drink their booze, smoke up their bars and piss in their ditches on the way home.
|
| # ? Sep 8, 2009 00:03 |
|
|
|
| # ? May 22, 2013 00:49 |
|
|
I've been accosting #tfr with ideas on this for a couple days so now it's time for the regular forum... I shot in a match on Saturday that was a complete loving blast -- it was all rimfire and shotgun, no centerfire rifles or pistols allowed. There were a number of different courses, all which test different aspects of shooting. BUT, since I'm a massive uspsa whore and don't really do much with rimfires I was vastly unprepared for what kind of equipment I would need for the match (read: I borrowed everything except a shotgun) Basically, I need to buy two (maybe three) more guns. All .22lr rimfires. I want a balls out semiauto rifle and pistol. I've got a nice little High Standard Model 103 Sport King that I've used on rimfire pintops with reasonable success: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfGyQWB1krA Pros: loving great trigger, insanely accurate, unique. Cons: super loving lovely sights, grip angle, and the biggest thing... 50-70 bucks a pop for mags  The mag thing is a big one for me. For this match I need 5 mags at an absolute minimum... 10 is much nicer. That, combined with the sentimental value attached to that handgun kinda makes me want to get something a bit more suitable to competitive shooting. Here's what I'm considering for pistols: Ruger MKIII 22/45, swap out stock stuff with Volquartsen guts. Buckmark Contour 5.5 URX Smith 41 The ruger has the upper hand on used availability and cheap mags. The buckmark has a pretty good trigger stock and mags aren't too insane. The 41 has a great trigger and is crazy fuckin accurate stock, but is a more expensive option than the other two. Whatever I choose will be getting some kind of unmagnified optic, likely a c-more with a 4moa dot (maybe 2moa... some of the precision pistol targets are really fuckin tiny). For rifles I'm basically looking at some kind of riced 10/22 unless someone has a better option out there. I may go with a ready made Volquartsen unit if I can find one reasonable enough. Probably the lightweight version. The thing that killed me the most in this match (other than never firing the guns I used before...) was the precision rifle portion. This stage had targets as small as 1.5" at 55yd that you had to engage offhand. The biggest targets at that distance were 4" plates. So, accuracy is pretty important. Thoughts? Suggestions?
|
| # ? Sep 8, 2009 00:10 |
|
|
needknees posted:I've got a nice little High Standard Model 103 Sport King that I've used on rimfire pintops with reasonable success: Afraid I don't have much to add, but apparently even at that price for magazines, you're taking a big chance. There's no feed ramp, so any given mag may or may not feed at the right angle, blah blah. The whole thing sounds fun as hell, though; sorry I don't have any recommendations to make.
|
| # ? Sep 8, 2009 02:38 |
|
|
TheNothingNew posted:Afraid I don't have much to add, but apparently even at that price for magazines, you're taking a big chance. There's no feed ramp, so any given mag may or may not feed at the right angle, blah blah. Oh I know. High Standard mags are basically a crapshoot. You might have a brand new one, never fired, that doesn't work. And for some reason they really can't be tuned  . Basically it's try poo poo until you find a winner... an expensive way to get mags!
|
| # ? Sep 8, 2009 02:45 |
|
|
Well, as an owner of both a Volquartsen'd Ruger Mark II and a Model 41, let me tell you this: once I had both, I worked really hard to justify putting both guns into my range bag at once, or even to have a solid reason to take the Ruger on some days and the 41 on others. I tried changing out the sights on the Mark II. Then I put a conventional scope on it. Then I put a red dot on it. I still couldn't find a reason to shoot it over my Model 41. As someone who's been there and done that, the Ruger is so far into second place that I sincerely feel bad for it. The Volquartsen mods are worth the money, but they definitely don't stop the Ruger from being tremendously outshined. If you can afford it, do it. Mags aren't cheap, but they're far more affordable than the high standard's.
|
| # ? Sep 8, 2009 06:48 |
|
|
Is $100 for a Savage Mark II-F with cheap Tasco scope worthwhile? Apparently it's an old enough model to not have the accutrigger, but it's in good shape otherwise.
|
| # ? Sep 8, 2009 21:06 |
|
|
TheNothingNew posted:(As regards Ruger single six replacement cylinder from the last page) If you were to send an original three screw Single Six to them, would they stuff a transfer bar safety in automatically or is that a request only upgrade?
|
| # ? Sep 8, 2009 21:42 |
|
|
hangedman posted:Well, as an owner of both a Volquartsen'd Ruger Mark II and a Model 41, let me tell you this: once I had both, I worked really hard to justify putting both guns into my range bag at once, or even to have a solid reason to take the Ruger on some days and the 41 on others. ...Happen to be interested in selling your super lovely ultra crappy Ruger?  I am leaning towards the 41. I think I can get one for a pretty reasonable price through some contacts, and mags really aren't too bad. Anyone have a different idea on the rifle?
|
| # ? Sep 8, 2009 21:49 |
|
|
Capn Beeb posted:If you were to send an original three screw Single Six to them, would they stuff a transfer bar safety in automatically or is that a request only upgrade? Ruger posted:Q: Can I have my 'old model' single action revolver serviced or order parts for it without having the conversion kit installed? That said, Ruger says they will return the old parts with the gun.
|
| # ? Sep 8, 2009 21:57 |
|
|
Well gently caress that then 
|
| # ? Sep 8, 2009 22:01 |
|
|
needknees posted:
The mk3 will definitely give you more "rice" options, but I think the Buckmark Contour is a much better pick. Its more versatile, has a nicer stock trigger, and the rail is great. Its a hell of a lot lighter than a Ruger mk Series, and the grip is alot more full. The ruger grip angle just doesnt suit you, and I'd go with a Buckmark grip over a 22/45 grip any day. If anything, that magazine slot being at the rear of the grip is offputting at first. I vote Buckmark.
|
| # ? Sep 9, 2009 00:05 |
|
|
taint massage posted:This is my 1956 Ruger Single-Six Lightweight. Just quoting my earlier post because I'm still so gay for this gun. I hadn't shot it in years because it's a collector piece or some poo poo (only 12k made total). This thing is just too much fun not to shoot though, so I popped about 200 rounds of Federal bulk through it yesterday It's light and accurate as all get out. Also big ups for my Marlin 925 bolt action. That thing is boss. taint massage fucked around with this message at Sep 9, 2009 around 00:38 |
| # ? Sep 9, 2009 00:31 |
|
|
needknees posted:...Happen to be interested in selling your super lovely ultra crappy Ruger? There have been a few things that keep me from selling it. The first is that it's a 10" barrel, which I guess has been discontinued. The second is that I'm unlikely to get any more than about $300 for it (even with the Volquartsen stuff), so I'd rather just hang onto it. There's also some sentimental value, too. After buying a 1911 for my 21st birthday, sense hit me a few years later and I learned to shoot on that thing. If I sell it, I know I'll regret it. Seriously, though, Model 41. My preference is for the 7" over the 5.5" version.
|
| # ? Sep 9, 2009 21:27 |
|
|
I'm looking at picking up a .22LR this weekend but I'm not sure which model yet. What's everyone's opinions on the Ruger 10/22 synthetic? I saw one tonight at Walmart for $237 as I was walking around and they look pretty nice. No scope, though. What kind of price range should I be looking at for a .22LR? Thanks. 
|
| # ? Sep 10, 2009 00:10 |
|
|
phoboselement posted:I'm looking at picking up a .22LR this weekend but I'm not sure which model yet. What's everyone's opinions on the Ruger 10/22 synthetic? I saw one tonight at Walmart for $237 as I was walking around and they look pretty nice. No scope, though. What kind of price range should I be looking at for a .22LR? Thanks. I bought a Savage MKII at walmart for like 117 bucks. It's not a semi but if you like bolt action it's a great rifle. Accurate as heck too at 50 yards, very tight groups, i'm impressed with Savage rifles and mine isn't even the accu trigger version.
|
| # ? Sep 10, 2009 00:23 |
|
|
On the Semi side it may be easier to find a used Marlin 60 close to 100 than a Ruger. 10/22s locally here are stupidly overpriced.
|
| # ? Sep 10, 2009 00:34 |
|
|
wav3form posted:I bought a Savage MKII at walmart for like 117 bucks. It's not a semi but if you like bolt action it's a great rifle. Accurate as heck too at 50 yards, very tight groups, i'm impressed with Savage rifles and mine isn't even the accu trigger version.
|
| # ? Sep 10, 2009 00:55 |
|
|
phoboselement posted:I'm looking for a semi for my .22LR. That synthetic Ruger 10/22 did look a bit overpriced at $237 for just the rifle. Out of the box, Marlin 60's are cheaper and more accurate, though you are stuck with a tube magazine.
|
| # ? Sep 10, 2009 00:59 |
|
|
EndofGoogle posted:Out of the box, Marlin 60's are cheaper and more accurate, though you are stuck with a tube magazine.
|
| # ? Sep 10, 2009 01:08 |
|
|
phoboselement posted:Do any of these come in packages with scopes or anything or are most of these added after purchase? That's all aftermarket but it has some kind of little scope rail already on it, I have a peep sight on mine.
|
| # ? Sep 10, 2009 01:09 |
|
|
Capn Beeb posted:Well gently caress that then Is there any reason beyond tradition to not have the transfer bar installed? I have heard complaints about it affecting the trigger pull but having taken one apart (never do this) I don't see how it could make much difference.
|
| # ? Sep 10, 2009 01:14 |
|
|
RU 187 261 LIB posted:That's all aftermarket but it has some kind of little scope rail already on it, I have a peep sight on mine.
|
| # ? Sep 10, 2009 01:32 |
|
|
I'm pretty sure I'm going to buy this within the next week or so.  http://savagearms.com/markiibv.htm It's so pretty and I miss having a functional .22 bolt action rifle. I was also looking at the CZ 452/453 American, but I don't think there's any significant difference between the two that warrants the $100 price difference.
|
| # ? Sep 19, 2009 03:32 |
|
|
STAINLESS. Seriously, Savage's bluing on their rimfire offerings is utter poo poo.
|
| # ? Sep 19, 2009 04:36 |
|
|
El Jorge posted:STAINLESS. What? The bluing on my MKII is excellent.
|
| # ? Sep 19, 2009 04:39 |
|
|
Yeah, that's the first complaint I've heard. My 93R17's bluing has been just fine. edit- I could also never get a stainless barreled gun like that because the stock, barrel/action, and scope would all be different colors and it would drive me loving nuts. charliebravo77 fucked around with this message at Sep 19, 2009 around 05:11 |
| # ? Sep 19, 2009 04:41 |
|
|
My Savage MK II G just arrived at my FFL. Now to go start the ten-day waiting period
|
| # ? Sep 19, 2009 04:57 |
|
|
Huh. My Mk.II is the only gun thats ever had corrosion issues. The bluing is terrible. Two other Mk.IIs i've seen have been this way. Maybe its a generational issue?
|
| # ? Sep 19, 2009 18:36 |
|
|
Gentlemen: it's bonertime.
|
| # ? Sep 19, 2009 22:11 |
|
|
I own and regularly shoot a Marlin 39a. It's a modern production, so pistol grip, not very pretty to some people. I have a Williams peep-sight on it, works very nicely. Very expensive for what it is. However, pleasure to shoot, stupidly reliable, and very easy to strip and clean. I've had a few complaints about the lever being sharp, don't see it myself. The CZ bolt-actions are great rifles, if you want a cheap bolt-action .22, get one of those.
|
| # ? Sep 19, 2009 22:26 |
|
|
What can anyone tell me about Beretta NEOS or S&W 22A's?
|
| # ? Sep 19, 2009 23:23 |
|
|
Spaceship Zero posted:What can anyone tell me about Beretta NEOS or S&W 22A's? Yeah, buy a Ruger Mk-series or Buckmark instead.
|
| # ? Sep 19, 2009 23:40 |
|
|
Chill_Bebop posted:Yeah, buy a Ruger Mk-series or Buckmark instead. Seconding Ruger Mk. Don’t have any experience with Buckmarks, but I hear good things.
|
| # ? Sep 20, 2009 02:48 |
|
|
Spaceship Zero posted:What can anyone tell me about Beretta NEOS or S&W 22A's? Having shot the Neos, it's hard to recommend it when Buck Marks and Ruger Mk IIs/IIIs aren't substantially higher in price. It's not bad per se, but the Ruger and Browning entry-level offerings have better triggers, are more accurate, and have a lot more upgrade potential (if that's your thing, or if you think it might be your thing).
|
| # ? Sep 20, 2009 03:22 |
|
|
Has anyone had a chance to try out the Sig 522 yet? Looks like it could be fun, I just haven't heard much about them.
|
| # ? Sep 20, 2009 09:52 |
|
|
Propagandalf posted:Has anyone had a chance to try out the Sig 522 yet? Looks like it could be fun, I just haven't heard much about them. Or on the same note, the S&W M&P 15-22? The S&W has been out for a bit and it's getting some pretty great reviews, but I always like to ask TFR.
|
| # ? Sep 20, 2009 13:45 |
|
|
Lord Dandy posted:Or on the same note, the S&W M&P 15-22? The S&W has been out for a bit and it's getting some pretty great reviews, but I always like to ask TFR. Its an incompatible AR lower with anything else, but its cheap as hell and worlds ahead of the Walther/Colt .22 AR Abomination. And they are what, $400? Get one.
|
| # ? Sep 20, 2009 16:29 |
|
|
Chill_Bebop posted:Its an incompatible AR lower with anything else, but its cheap as hell and worlds ahead of the Walther/Colt .22 AR Abomination. And they are what, $400? Get one. Mags are $20-25, which is in line with what the Ciener-compatible mags run.
|
| # ? Sep 20, 2009 18:09 |
|
|
GroovinPickle posted:Some places are actually asking (and getting) $550 for them. $425-450 is more like it. I've read that dealer cost is around $380, but don't quote me on that because I don't really know what I'm talking about. I'm somewhat alone in this, but I'd rather buy a complete, separate gun than a $600 Spikes .22 Upper, or even a Ciener kit. Same goes for Handguns: I'd rather buy a Buckmark than a Kadet/ 1911 .22 kit.
|
| # ? Sep 20, 2009 19:32 |
|
|
|
| # ? May 22, 2013 00:49 |
|
|
thoughts on a trigger kit for a Ruger MKIII 22/45 ? I can get one for about $90 to have a new hammer / sear / hammer / extended bolt release and all springs. the trigger on the stock ruger is really sloppy.
|
| # ? Sep 20, 2009 20:33 |
|
