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G-Prime posted:This can lead to hilarity, or just terrible things. If you find bones, whatever killed that guy is probably still around, and you're likely to end up fighting the ghost of that character. It's always nice to find bones that had an item you hadn't identified yet that turned out to be fantastic when you died. But it's terrible when that item is cursed and you're too excited about finding it to bother to check if it is or not. drat you, cursed ring of slow digestion! Its not like its hard to get rid of cursed status though. The only problem is when the item can rust and have that rust affect its performance. Oh and if you are killed by a V,M,or Z i believe you get a monster of that type instead of a ghost.
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KGBAgent185 posted:A question of strategy for you guys, how do you ID potions/scrolls/books if you don't have identify already known? http://nethack.roy.org/clippy/clippy.pl For all your price iding needs. Except for sucker pricing. You can apply potions to see if you have oil or acid (both are 250 base price). Oil ignites, no other potion does. Nymphs often drop potions of object detection (50% chance I think?) so if you get a few of the same potions from nymphs you can ID those. Clear potions are always water. Dip a dagger into potions to check for poly, then dip a unihorn to check for blindness, Hallucination, sickness and confusion. (Sickness becomes Fruit Juice, the rest become water.) Hell, once you have poly id'd and a unihorn you can just quaff potions to find out what they are. Just stand on a burnt elbereth inside of a locked closet and you should be fine from 99% of monsters incase you quaff paralyze.
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KGBAgent185 posted:Another question, once you read a spellbook, do you need it anymore? I had thought that they disappeared when you read them like scrolls, but yesterday I read and found CLairvoyance and it was still in my inventory. After 20,000 turns you forget the spell and whenever you cast it, regardless of fail rate it stuns, confuses you or both. This is a lot more useful than you think since if you can read an easy level 1 spellbook early on and have a guaranteed confusion source by the time you reach the points when you need it. The spell shows up in your spellbook with a * next to it. I usually name my spellbooks with the turn I read them and leave them in a stash. EDIT: Spellbooks will eventually blank when read too much, but if the spellbook blanks you are taking far too long for any regular game. Well, assuming you don't polymorph the books. You cast spells by using Z and then choose the letter. I am hella PEEVED fucked around with this message at 14:55 on Mar 18, 2009 |
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tripwood posted:I'm starting to get how to survive in the dungeons, but I was wondering what's the right order to do things as to not go down too fast and get owned by horrible spawning monsters. My order for most characters is: Start -> Sokoban -> Mines -> Mine's End. I sometimes dip into the mines early if I need an altar/want Dwarvish Mitrhil. I rarely ever do Mine's End before Sokoban because of the stupid amounts of ways I can screw up sokoban, even with spoilers and most levels memorized. This wont take you beyond dlvl 11. EDIT: Mine's End is after Minetown. It has a guaranteed luckstone and some other goodies depending on which version you get. Its after some more mine levels, it'll take you to about dlvl 10-11 before Mine's End shows up. This is also where Polymorph traps can spawn, so prepare to break your poo poo and begin to fume like a volcano about to erupt if you don't have Magic Resistance.
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Mar 18, 2009 16:56
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Sartak posted:You can also dig down and go back up. Medusa is by the downstairs. She's near a Perseus statue that has a good chance to contain levitation boots. Cursed levitation boots. It sucks to have to waste a prayer on decursing them because you are retarded and had your whole inventory blanked because you forgot to put on your levitation ring before dumping the trolls body into the moat at the castle. Oh and then having a soldier blow the ring up with lightning. Not that I would know anything about that of course.
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Mar 19, 2009 03:50
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stubblyhead posted:Try floating over a sink next time. Yea, I knew about the sink trick, but for some reason I decided to pray. Probably because I was headed to Gehennom and really had no use for the prayer.
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krael posted:Egg death. Thats why we don't eat eggs. And you still had time to pray/snack on a lizard corpse.
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Bushibytes posted:Well, my Ranger ended up dying promptly after the screenshot I posted but I ascended my first character tonight. Chaotic Orcish Barbarian, twoweaponing Frost Brand and a silver saber. Fairly easy run, the most tedious part was the plane of fire with my ring of conflict. I ended up taking it off because the turns were way too long. Put on a blindfold and turn off sparkle in your options. Holy poo poo its the greatest thing I've ever heard.
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RoboBlaster posted:Not all corpses that grant poison resistance are poisonous. Shriekers are pretty plentiful in the early game and they have a 20% chance of granting the resistance though they aren't poisonous to eat themselves. There are lots of others though so check the wiki as you come across possibilities. Bees and scorpions are poisonous, however they have a 33% and 50% chance to grant poison resistance. Early game the only non poisonous monsters that grant poison resistance are Molds(brown and red), Shriekers (purple F not to be confused with purple molds), and Unicorns. I think blue jellies as well, but they are on the higher end of that scale. I think Centipedes and Garter Snakes do as well, but I'm not positive on them.
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Mar 25, 2009 18:19
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MarionetteOwl posted:Unless you have 17 or higher intelligence, which is nice. Only if you are a Wizard.
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Mar 26, 2009 01:26
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JawnV6 posted:I had that turned off, it was the dozens of messages telling me about fire elementals and how they felt a little warm before hitting the other fire elemental who also felt a little warm! Pretty sure a "the fire elemental disappears" slipped by me, because when I got within a square the magic portal was ID'd for me. Blind yourself. It removes all those messages and if you are fire resistant you are A-OK!
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Lord Hydronium posted:So I decided to get back into Nethack today. Got my spoiler lists out, had a priest going pretty nicely, had reached Sokoban... I tried getting back into it too! I didn't get killed by a floating eye! I got killed by a Grid Bug.
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May 19, 2009 04:44
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ledge posted:Spamming Elbereth is much less tedious when it is bound to a single key stroke (hello interhack). Except when it fucks up and you engrave with your silver saber pretty much sealing your fate.
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May 22, 2009 06:06
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I hate my life. My chair was on my keyboard, hitting 3 instead of 2 which ended up with me killing my tourist on Astral.
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May 22, 2009 18:54
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Sartak posted:Yes, obviously. I'm trying to figure how it happened. I've duplicated it twice so far. 1: If you have an item in E and you have the engrave menu open, using ^E will engrave using the item in E. 2: If there are more messages to be scrolled through, it may attempt to engrave with an item in any slot of Elbereth. I don't have enough items or enough messages to test properly test this though. I do love the Elbereth macro and most of the time it works properly. But I am pretty good at breaking things and I have seen it gently caress up a few times and it has cost me a few characters.
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Sartak posted:Okay, my recommendation is to change this configuration line: Thanks, I figured it was the lack of escape characters. LAST EDIT: I'm dumb and need to realize whitespace can be bad and that I am spoiled for dealing with Java for so long in school. I am hella PEEVED fucked around with this message at 05:46 on May 23, 2009 |
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May 23, 2009 05:42
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McNerd posted:There're only so many screams about the RNG we can endure before we need some good news in the thread! That tourist I killed cause I'm retarded and use the numpad? I found 7 Geno Scrolls total. Got ONE enchant armor scroll.
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May 23, 2009 07:06
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fitsfadda posted:Also, do other classes need to depend on their pets much more? I didn't really care about it playing as a valk, but I was trying a rogue and I seem to keep dying although it doesn't help that I keep forgetting I'm not a valk. If you play on NAO or have Autopickup exceptions set up on your own PC, it helps a ton when playing Rogues, Rangers or any other class that use missile weapons. I usually use my pet as a curse tester for armor while I head to sokoban. By that point I usually have an AC worth a drat and a melee weapon for backup. Healers are the exception though.
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May 24, 2009 15:05
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TotallyGreen posted:If I'm using magicbane, I should be safe without genociding L right? You should be fine. Till they summon nasties and you get minotaurs and other E immune monsters.
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May 27, 2009 04:48
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ImJasonH posted:So it's possible to have a bag of holding inside another bag of holding, as long as it's nested inside of other oilskin sacks? Anybody know more about this? Does it make things even lighter? Yes. http://nethack.wikia.com/wiki/Bag_of_holding#Bag_of_holding. And yes. Nesting bags of holding does decrease the weight.
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BACK TO BACK ASCENSIONS. Got my revenge and ascended my Tourist today after dying on Astral. That was the boring -40 AC, Grayswandir/Silver Saber, 250 HP boring astral run. Today however, I ascended my Athiest, Genoless, Priest. gently caress Atheist Genoless. The last time I did genoless I had a wizard who just smoked the hell outta everything. This priest SUCKED with no good weapons. I wished up the silver spear because I wanted a chance at finishing Gehennom in a reasonable amount of time. code:
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Contra Duck posted:Yeah but being an atheist priest is so close to playing any other priest that it barely counts as a conduct. Except you don't get a good weapon unless you wish for it. Lemme tell you, a +7 Silver Spear is no replacement for any artiweapon.
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Contra Duck posted:+7 silver spear? Please, a +7 mace should be enough for anyone. Well, when you go from Two-Weaponing tourist with Gray/Silver Saber to elf priest with a mace, it feels slow as hell. Magic missile pretty much removed my problems though.
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Rapacity posted:
The number of times it has been recharged. so 0:7 is no recharges: 7 charges and 1:3 is 1 time recharged: 3 charges remain.
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Contra Duck posted:Without the reams of spoilers you read and the advice you got from people with years of experience, how would your fight with Juiblex have gone? Probably drowning in a swamp. Maybe swarmed by gremlins who eat what few intrinsics I own. Without nethack.wikia.com and #nethack I wouldn't have ascended. I'm a sucker for dying every 10 seconds, but I never even got past dlvl 4 when I played before I knew of those sources. Gehennom sucks a ton and I think everyone wishes it could be better. Sporkhack does a pretty good job at it, but I still wish there was more variety in the levels. A mix of mazes, mines and regular rooms at least gives me something different and keeps me on my toes. Plus it feels weird to be diving through the mines without G and h throwing daggers at me every square.
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I did something right or something. I ran into like 7 bones files on NAO, most of them being wizards. Apart from meeting a demilich in mine's end I ended up with MR, 2 magic markers (one 0:75 one 0:99), 2 cursed ?oGeno, 2 cursed ?oCharging,plenty of ?oID and ?oEW, buncha junk potions, /oPoly. A quick altar trip later, I'm now entering Sokoban with +6 Cleaver, -27AC, MR and Reflection and =oSlowDigestion. And I still have the 0:99 Magic Marker left. Gonna try for Wishless Genoless, but we'll see how that goes when I have to deal with liches.
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Yog-Sothoth posted:Wizards are the best placed class for genoless conduct anyway, as guaranteed magicbane makes the two biggest geno targets (mind flayers and liches) trivial and almost-so respectively. When you've got one-turn semipermanent Elbereth mind flayers are an easy magic missile kill, and with MB to eat curses about the only scary thing about liches is summoned minotaurs (sleep them). Genoless isn't at all a hard conduct, wishless will rely a little on what gear you pick up but a wizards bag of tricks makes it easier to get by with what you end up being given This is a Barbarian, but I keep finding wizard bones. I've done genoless twice, wizard and priest. I've never found h to be a threat ever and I usually genocide L because I like to not deal with their poo poo. I'm not too worried, just found a Valk bones with Speed Boots & Mojo. I'm hoping to find magicbane just to have an athame, although I might just sac for it seeing as how I chose neutral. EDIT: -31 AC right now and I still haven't bought protection. I wanted to make this game a bit more difficult, but poo poo, I hate not using things. I am hella PEEVED fucked around with this message at 03:40 on Jul 6, 2009 |
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BryE posted:Also: killing the minetown priest. I assume this is only done when another early altar can't be found anywhere. Otherwise it's better to leave him alone to buy protection from him, right? Buy protection, then kill him. I think you have to convert the altar first otherwise it pisses off your god.
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stubblyhead posted:I think it's more a matter of having a friendly altar nearby coupled with the fact that gods get pissed when you try to kill their priests and are liable to hurl lightning bolts at you. Yea I know their god gets pissed, but I thought there was away to remove the murder penalty.
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voodoorootbeer posted:What do you folks who play priests use for endgame weapons? I guess lawfuls could snag a Sceptre of Might and neutrals could get the Staff of Aesculapius, but chaotics and people who don't want to artifact wish are kind of screwed. Mjollnir makes an OK midgame weapon, but most of the other sacrifice gifts are pretty lackluster. I can only Magicbane &'s to death so many times before I get bored. I ascended with a Silver Spear I wished up. It seemed a lot slower due to no artiweapon, but my previous character was a Tourist #twoweaponing +7 Grayswandir & Silver Saber. Magic Missile did help a ton though, so I highly suggest you get that. The Mitre of Holiness will fix your Pw problems pretty well just don't go balls to the walls the whole ascension run.
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McNerd posted:One other thing: if you find a bag in the beginning, don't just loot it but always pick it up. It's useful to have even a normal sack, but the other types of bag are great. Don't loot them until you have enough HP to survive a bite. code:I couldn't. I am hella PEEVED fucked around with this message at 03:32 on Sep 23, 2009 |
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Maud with a 3687 turn ascension. How the gently caress do they do this? I know I over prepare, but under four thousand turns is loving insane. http://alt.org/nethack/userdata/Maud/dumplog/1260669356.nh343.txt
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Rashomon posted:Side note, can anyone give me some advice for Rangers and Rogues? I am starting to play them almost exclusively, and they're fun but I haven't figured out how to get that far with them yet. Give me some playstyle tips! If you can survive it, get to the mines early and stock up on daggers. A stack of about 10-12 lasts for a while and you'll be using them until you get the ability to enchant a big stack of darts/arrows. Elbereth if you get cornered or need to get something scared so you can murder it as a Rogue. Although they get lovely gear at start, Orc isn't a bad choice for either class just for the inherent poison resist that can make things difficult. I don't know if you've played a wizard, but play Rogues and Rangers like the early game Wizard and you'll clean house in no time.
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Rashomon posted:Also -- is there any reason to swap my bow/my daggers into my primary hand considering you can shoot/throw with it in the off hand? Yea, as a Rogue you get backstab extra damage. I think its double and it works with throwing weapons. So those triple thrown daggers pretty much murder the gently caress out of anything. You don't get the bonus damage when you #twoweapon. Rangers are pretty much poo poo out of luck for damage, so try to find some poison arrows quick. If you are using arrows you want your bow in your primary hand for an extra d2 damage I think? But as a Rogue put something useful in it, like Stormbringer.
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ZerodotJander posted:I just loaded up iNethack on my phone today, haven't played Nethack in a couple of years. First character, Human Lawful Valkyrie, and I found a wand of wishing on dlevel 2, and just found another on dlevel 5. I can't wait to see what kind of horrible death awaits me. I honestly do not know how you could possibly die in this game, apart from accidentally artifact blasting yourself to death. Completely offtopic, my Healer found a Silver Saber on dlvl 2 and then a blessed scroll of enchant weapon. I didn't even realize Healers had Saber as a skill. Despite my best efforts at killing this healer (putting on an un-ID'd amulet which turned out to be a cursed amulet of restful slumber and becoming a wererat and praying when I had low health so my god healed that instead of my lycanthropy.), I still remain alive. I am hella PEEVED fucked around with this message at 23:02 on Dec 18, 2009 |
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..btt posted:If that's a bit too much, you could use your pet to kill some dwarves in the mine for a mattock. They're drat heavy though, so I usually try to avoid that. They also have that whole -1 to hit penalty going for them. But holy poo poo does that weapon hit like a truck. If you can get your hands on one it will last until the castle if you enchant it. Hell, you could probably ascend with it no problem, but have a supply of holy water with you to keep it blessed.
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I'm done. I've finished my goal of ascending all 13 classes. It wasn't clean, it wasn't fancy, it wasn't a quick, but its done. Anyone watching my TTYREC for this guy, I know I did plenty of retarded poo poo, like wear that cursed amulet, pick up that loadstone, wear some cursed armor, started fainting during the ascension run, but I still finished it. I am never playing a Healer ever again. And I mean ever. code:
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BryE posted:Just found a bug, I don't know if it's been submitted to the dev team. I was BUC testing on an altar, my inventory letters got swapped around, and I accidentally put on a cursed blindfold. With it on, I was able to read a blessed scroll of remove curse, and so was able to get it off again. Not a bug, as long as you know the magic words on the scroll, you can use it. This includes dropping scrolls in shops and having the shopkeeper tell you said words.
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McNerd posted:What, do you mean IDing it by selling it, like "A worthless piece of yellow glass, you sold it for 1 gold"? Yup. You have to buy or sell it first, but its still a nice trick to know of. McNerd posted:Also, out of curiosity, do you know whether this breaks illiterate conduct? Yes.
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Why do you torment me RNG? I'm was trying for a weaponless, wishless, genoless, vegan monk, but I fat fingered a pick axe attempt, so I gave that weaponless conduct up. I hit an old bones file and got my Cloak of Magic Resist, Amulet of Reflection, Vorpal Blade, Bag of Holding and Magic Marker and a ton of food and scrolls. Now, I found 2 12x5 beehives loaded with jelly. I would be set on food for the rest of the game even without the bones, but I cant eat any of it  . Final count, 48 lumps of royal jelly.EDIT: I am retarded and thought, hmm do I still have my conflict ring on as I float over the castle moat? Let me go take it off. Ker-plunk, drown, WELP, time for another one. (Plus, 11k turns at the castle, not the fastest, but gently caress, still better than what I normally do. I am hella PEEVED fucked around with this message at 01:20 on Feb 20, 2010 |
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