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SNiPER_Magnum
Jan 21, 2001

Don't close. Don't close.

Powershift posted:

I think it has more to do with too many cooks in the kitchen. the oil line guy shows up, does his thing, and goes home. then the coolant guy shows up and builds what he needs to over that, then the air guy, then the electrical guy, then at some point it's finally put between the frame rails of a truck, and they all just look at it and think "gently caress, well it's too late now, let's just ship it like that"

This is pretty much how a truck is designed. All your air, oil, electrical, bracket, bolt, and widget engineers don't really talk to each other. And it doesn't really matter if they do because things will change later and gently caress it all up. When you have decades between model releases and you design for assembly, weird poo poo happens.

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Powershift
Nov 23, 2009


SNiPER_Magnum posted:

This is pretty much how a truck is designed. All your air, oil, electrical, bracket, bolt, and widget engineers don't really talk to each other. And it doesn't really matter if they do because things will change later and gently caress it all up. When you have decades between model releases and you design for assembly, weird poo poo happens.

Yeah, the emissions poo poo seems to be a large part of the problem.

Got pretty close to driving through a tornado the other day too.



Went from bone dry and 30*C to sudden large hail and heavy wind in an area with a tornado warning. There's a tornado warning about 20 minutes south right now, too.

some texas redneck
May 12, 2006

So good to see you once again

I thought that you were hiding from me

And you thought that I had run away

Chasing a trail of smoke and reason

Prying open my third eye


Sponge! posted:

So I wound up at the Flying-J's "Huddle House" on my way to work. This one goes out to all of you who've had one too many truckstop birthday breakfasts...



There was nothing left but the plate, silverware, and a napkin when I departed. I even swabbed all the grease and poo poo off with the toast. How sad is it that road-food tasted GOOD?

When I lived in El Paso, I was in the Petro just east of town pretty frequently late at night. Something about chicken fried steak at 3am just kept calling me. The food there used to be drat good, though this was in the 90s, there's a slight chance it's changed a bit since then.

I have no idea why I was diagnosed with high blood pressure before I turned 30, I'm sure there's no correlation whatsoever.

InterceptorV8
Mar 9, 2004

Would have been a shame to blow it up.


Sponge! posted:

I did get tired of the guy on the PA going "ATTENTION TRUCKERS, WE NOW HAVE NO WAIT FOR A SHOWER! COME IN AND ENJOY A HOT SHOWER WITH NO WAITING!" after about the 4th time in my brief 35 minute visit.

loving Pilot.

Was wondering how long it would take for Pilot to mess around with Flying J after the take-over. OK, it isn't a complete lost, but yes, that's a new change thanks to Pilot after they bought out Flying J.

Glad you enjoyed the food, now you know why I haven't seen my feet in 6 years.

Splizwarf
Jun 15, 2007

Watch me pull my dongle out of this tiny box


gently caress 'em, they smell like gangrene anyway. Might as well just leave those boots on.

InterceptorV8
Mar 9, 2004

Would have been a shame to blow it up.


Why is it almost cheaper to buy a power saw over a hand saw?

Just wondering, did I miss a memo somewhere??

CannonFodder
Jan 26, 2001



Sponge! posted:

Hey InterceptorV8 and all other lifers...

I did get tired of the guy on the PA going "ATTENTION TRUCKERS, WE NOW HAVE NO WAIT FOR A SHOWER! COME IN AND ENJOY A HOT SHOWER WITH NO WAITING!" after about the 4th time in my brief 35 minute visit.


(I haven't poo poo myself, and it's been almost 13 hours...)
Aww, you didn't have Trace Adkins tell you about how much he understands what truckers go through and how we should remember to stop in at Pilot Flying J for a hot cup of coffee something something.

InterceptorV8
Mar 9, 2004

Would have been a shame to blow it up.


CannonFodder posted:

Aww, you didn't have Trace Adkins tell you about how much he understands what truckers go through and how we should remember to stop in at Pilot Flying J for a hot cup of coffee something something.

Praise Pissbottle Baby Jesus Christ I don't fuel at Pilot/Flying J. One thing that always pissed me off about Pilots is their supersmall shitters. Never before in my life have I had my shoulders hard against both walls in a shitter until I started making GBS threads at Pilots. I didn't think my shoulders where that wide for gently caress's sake. I know I'm a big boy, but when RV's have larger shitterstalls than your Pilots....

And gently caress, Pilots are "made" for truckers. They should have some loving clue.

Splizwarf
Jun 15, 2007

Watch me pull my dongle out of this tiny box


Yes sir, the clue was that if they made the stalls smaller they could fit one more in. Or another rack of porno and waffles in the crapmart on the other side of the wall.

InterceptorV8
Mar 9, 2004

Would have been a shame to blow it up.


Splizwarf posted:

Yes sir, the clue was that if they made the stalls smaller they could fit one more in. Or another rack of porno and waffles in the crapmart on the other side of the wall.

I wish Pilots sold Porno and Waffles.

Powershift
Nov 23, 2009


The camera shook sideways a little ways in, and youtubes anti-shake thing made it wobbly, but it still shows the road ok. some hard corners by steep drops at 3:00 and 4:45. This was going out empty, you could imagine what it was like going in loaded.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0AgkTfAu_E

Sponge!
Dec 22, 2004

SPORK!


Sponge! posted:


Words removed...



There was nothing left but the plate, silverware, and a napkin when I departed. I even swabbed all the grease and poo poo off with the toast. How sad is it that road-food tasted GOOD?


Words Removed...

(I haven't poo poo myself, and it's been almost 13 hours...)

I now haven't taken a poo poo since Sunday night... This is seems to be a common occurrence for drivers?

Powershift
Nov 23, 2009


Sponge! posted:

I now haven't taken a poo poo since Sunday night... This is seems to be a common occurrence for drivers?

You can't poo poo in a coke bottle, man. (this is a generalization, not a challenge)

InterceptorV8
Mar 9, 2004

Would have been a shame to blow it up.


Powershift posted:

The camera shook sideways a little ways in, and youtubes anti-shake thing made it wobbly, but it still shows the road ok. some hard corners by steep drops at 3:00 and 4:45. This was going out empty, you could imagine what it was like going in loaded.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0AgkTfAu_E

I LOVE 5 MPH UPHILLS!

That looks like the old logging roads where I used to live. gently caress doing that poo poo in the snow and rain though.

Sponge! posted:

I now haven't taken a poo poo since Sunday night... This is seems to be a common occurrence for drivers?

Eat a tub of ice cream.

You'll fire out a ball of poo poo-shot like a pro in the morning.

Javid
Oct 21, 2004

My sole partiality is to that delectable spiced meat. Any additional confederation of vegetables shall not compromise the pie as I see it.

I remember stopping at the Js specifically for their pizza, is that stuff no longer decent? That would be a drat shame.

Splizwarf
Jun 15, 2007

Watch me pull my dongle out of this tiny box


InterceptorV8 posted:

I wish Pilots sold Porno and Waffles.

I have an idea. I'm going to make a billion dollars here.

Basically Roscoe's with DVDA and pay showers.

InterceptorV8
Mar 9, 2004

Would have been a shame to blow it up.


Javid posted:

I remember stopping at the Js specifically for their pizza, is that stuff no longer decent? That would be a drat shame.

Well the sign is still up... but for as it being good, we will have to send Sponge! back to the Flying Hook!

Splizwarf posted:

I have an idea. I'm going to make a billion dollars here.

Basically Roscoe's with DVDA and pay showers.


Name it, Fat Greasy's Truck and Porn.

ijustam
Jun 20, 2005



InterceptorV8 posted:

Well the sign is still up... but for as it being good, we will have to send Sponge! back to the Flying Hook!



Name it, Fat Greasy's Truck and Porn.

Watch out, Christians will stake out and take pictures of your customers and post it on a website.

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

IF I HAVEN'T MENTIONED MY FIVE TON LATELY, CHECK MY AIR INTAKE FOR CHEMICAL WEAPONS


Sounds like free advertising to me.

Sponge!
Dec 22, 2004

SPORK!


InterceptorV8 posted:

Eat a tub of ice cream.

You'll fire out a ball of poo poo-shot like a pro in the morning.

Thank you, Dr. InterveptorV8! Your prescription of a pint of Chocolate Chip Cookie Dough for breakfast has just fixed things right up!

InterceptorV8
Mar 9, 2004

Would have been a shame to blow it up.


ijustam posted:

Watch out, Christians will stake out and take pictures of your customers and post it on a website.

Come on now, posting pictures of that would be the best form of birth control out there.

Sponge! posted:

Thank you, Dr. InterveptorV8! Your prescription of a pint of Chocolate Chip Cookie Dough for breakfast has just fixed things right up!

Ice cream works wonders for lock-rear end.

Sponge!
Dec 22, 2004

SPORK!


InterceptorV8 posted:

Well the sign is still up... but for as it being good, we will have to send Sponge! back to the Flying Hook!

I'm not sure my flug-hook has pizza, since the Huddle House is the food provider...


Unless its over past the chrome and chicken lights section which demarcates the boundary between restaurant and store... I will investigate tomorrow after work.


For

Sponge!
Dec 22, 2004

SPORK!


Update on the Pizza.

My Flying-J has a Huddle House AND a Subway. Neither of which serve pizza, both of which ARE 24 hours though...

So yeah, I got a sub. Because I was there. For the Internet.

InterceptorV8
Mar 9, 2004

Would have been a shame to blow it up.


Sponge! posted:

Update on the Pizza.

My Flying-J has a Huddle House AND a Subway. Neither of which serve pizza, both of which ARE 24 hours though...

So yeah, I got a sub. Because I was there. For the Internet.

I am so tired of Subway though....

Was it good?

Sponge!
Dec 22, 2004

SPORK!


InterceptorV8 posted:

I am so tired of Subway though....

Was it good?

Oh god yes.

Start with a Steak n Cheese footlong.

Say you want double meat, but instead of more steak, ask for the sliced grilled chicken breast strips.

Then add bacon.

Preoptopus
Aug 25, 2008


So I'm toying around with the idea of starting a car hauling business... Im looking at trailers, specifically trailers that can fit 4 or 5 cars. Searching up the internet, I found this on some trailer dealers site.

A CDL is required if....
• All single vehicles with a manufacturer's weight rating of 26,001 pounds or more
• All trailers with a manufacturer's weight rating of 10,001 pounds or more, if the gross weight rating of the combined vehicle(s) is 26,001 pounds or more (this is the combined vehicle weight)

Now I'm planning on getting a trailer that can be towed with a dually diesel pick up. My question is, first of all is a CDL required if your towing 26,000 pounds including the trailer? Or is it just the weight of your cargo? Does the weight of the tow vehicle count too?
I'm at a loss. What other licences/fees should I expect with this sort of buisness. How would insurance work?

If anyone can break this down for me i would be most obliged. Also I should say that I plan on towing cars across state lines.

Thanks and sorry for the newbie post.

InterceptorV8
Mar 9, 2004

Would have been a shame to blow it up.


Sponge! posted:

Oh god yes.

Start with a Steak n Cheese footlong.

Say you want double meat, but instead of more steak, ask for the sliced grilled chicken breast strips.

Then add bacon.

Forty dollar foot longs!

Subways get good at about $8 a pop I've found out.

Preoptopus posted:

So I'm toying around with the idea of starting a car hauling business... Im looking at trailers, specifically trailers that can fit 4 or 5 cars. Searching up the internet, I found this on some trailer dealers site.

A CDL is required if....
• All single vehicles with a manufacturer's weight rating of 26,001 pounds or more
• All trailers with a manufacturer's weight rating of 10,001 pounds or more, if the gross weight rating of the combined vehicle(s) is 26,001 pounds or more (this is the combined vehicle weight)

Now I'm planning on getting a trailer that can be towed with a dually diesel pick up. My question is, first of all is a CDL required if your towing 26,000 pounds including the trailer? Or is it just the weight of your cargo? Does the weight of the tow vehicle count too?
I'm at a loss. What other licences/fees should I expect with this sort of buisness. How would insurance work?

If anyone can break this down for me i would be most obliged. Also I should say that I plan on towing cars across state lines.

Thanks and sorry for the newbie post.

You are going to want to look into hotshotters or hotshots they are the guys with the pick ups and 30 foot gooseneck trailers and they have their own forums and forms and laws and taxes and all that good information.

But yes, if your truck, trailer and cargo are over 26,000 pounds, you are going to roll across the scales and need a CDL. To 26,000 pounds, you are fine, but in some states you'll have to roll across the scales. As for fees and the like, it depends on the state. Some states you have to paid more (I know in Nevada, I pay by GCVW if I wanted to pull heavy loads with my 3500) Most likely you'll have to sticker up your truck, make a LLC, and goodies like that.

And now you know why they make alcoa wheels for pick-ups to cut weight.

InterceptorV8
Mar 9, 2004

Would have been a shame to blow it up.


http://www.americantruckersonline.c...otInsurance.htm

http://www.hotshotlogistics.net/FAQ.html

http://www.hotshotcarrier.com/startHSCbusiness.php

http://hotshotconnect.myfreeforum.o..._o_t__t_20.html

http://youtu.be/2MvQ66J2W-8 Hey neat a sleeper for a pickup

InterceptorV8 fucked around with this message at Aug 4, 2012 around 17:43

ijustam
Jun 20, 2005



InterceptorV8 posted:

Forty dollar foot longs!

Subways get good at about $8 a pop I've found out.


You are going to want to look into hotshotters or hotshots they are the guys with the pick ups and 30 foot gooseneck trailers and they have their own forums and forms and laws and taxes and all that good information.

But yes, if your truck, trailer and cargo are over 26,000 pounds, you are going to roll across the scales and need a CDL. To 26,000 pounds, you are fine, but in some states you'll have to roll across the scales. As for fees and the like, it depends on the state. Some states you have to paid more (I know in Nevada, I pay by GCVW if I wanted to pull heavy loads with my 3500) Most likely you'll have to sticker up your truck, make a LLC, and goodies like that.

And now you know why they make alcoa wheels for pick-ups to cut weight.

Note that the trailer weight will determine what class you'll need.

Class A -- Any combination of vehicles with a GCWR of 26,001 or more pounds provided the GVWR of the vehicle(s) being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.

Class B -- Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing a vehicle not in excess of 10,000 pounds GVWR.

See: http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/registrati...ing/cdl/cdl.htm

Preoptopus
Aug 25, 2008


Thank you so much! This is exactly what I need to get started.

InterceptorV8
Mar 9, 2004

Would have been a shame to blow it up.


http://youtu.be/c2A4_BuHL_w

I want this guy to work on my stuff.

I laughed too hard at this.

Seat Safety Switch
May 27, 2008

Ask me about my slow EJ25.

I'd watch that guy install anything.

Powershift
Nov 23, 2009


Great news! they finished your mom's water bed

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

IF I HAVEN'T MENTIONED MY FIVE TON LATELY, CHECK MY AIR INTAKE FOR CHEMICAL WEAPONS


your mom... and what army?

InterceptorV8
Mar 9, 2004

Would have been a shame to blow it up.


Powershift posted:

Great news! they finished your mom's water bed



I don't know if I'd have my RV anywhere near a giant fuckass huge waterbag and crazy rear end oil field workers/ truck drivers. Unless I wanted to see my RV become a houseboat.

jonathan
Jul 3, 2005



InterceptorV8 posted:

I don't know if I'd have my RV anywhere near a giant fuckass huge waterbag and crazy rear end oil field workers/ truck drivers. Unless I wanted to see my RV become a houseboat.

That is a mobile office and/or living quarters. Usually the oil field consultant lives in there for the drill and franc operations. They earn somewhere around $1500 per day.

ijustam
Jun 20, 2005



Oil engineers make stupid amounts of dollars. My friend works as an engineer on a rig and easily clears 6 figures (barely 3 years out of college), and he doesn't have to pay for food or housing while on the rig so it's straight into the pocket.

Minus the 80 hour weeks, of course.

EightBit
Jan 7, 2006
I spent money on this line of text just to make the "Stupid Newbie" go away.

ijustam posted:

Oil engineers make stupid amounts of dollars. My friend works as an engineer on a rig and easily clears 6 figures (barely 3 years out of college), and he doesn't have to pay for food or housing while on the rig so it's straight into the pocket.

Minus the 80 hour weeks, of course.

I too could clear six figures if I worked two jobs

InterceptorV8
Mar 9, 2004

Would have been a shame to blow it up.


jonathan posted:

That is a mobile office and/or living quarters. Usually the oil field consultant lives in there for the drill and franc operations. They earn somewhere around $1500 per day.

My statement stands.

Hell I wouldn't be able to take a poo poo in your plastic outhouses knowing that there was a billion-zillion gallons of water behind me waiting for a good flush.

That is an OSHA accident report just waiting to be written in comical, yet sad, tones.

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Powershift
Nov 23, 2009


InterceptorV8 posted:

My statement stands.

Hell I wouldn't be able to take a poo poo in your plastic outhouses knowing that there was a billion-zillion gallons of water behind me waiting for a good flush.

That is an OSHA accident report just waiting to be written in comical, yet sad, tones.

That bladder only holds 600,000 liters, and would absorb any impact from a vehicle. I would be more worried about poseidons.



7,000,000 liters.

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