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SG-83
Sep 6, 2004

I guess it's not just a dog thing!

BorkTron posted:

Containers can be liability hell for drivers, especially owner-operators. If you drive a company truck it can be anything from a slap on the wrist to a paycheck docking. If you're working for yourself (usually contracted under some other company), you can be slapped with bills that if ignored can ruin you.

For example,
What about taking photos of all the sides with a decent 12-15MP camera or something for potential future bullshit? I do that whenever I'm renting something (like a car/truck) to avoid paying for some other rear end in a top hat's damage.

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azflyboy
Nov 9, 2005


InterceptorV8 posted:



Even a view like this can't bring me out of my funk.



Man-child cave ahead!

Was that wind turbine blade somewhere in North Dakota by chance?

Those blades are manufactured in Grand Forks, ND, and watching them navigate the half mile or so to the interstate is pretty interesting.

The trailers have steerable axles that are operated via remote control from the rear pilot car, and the tractor and trailer have to be kept in two different lanes when turning onto on-ramps.

When they're not carrying blades, those trailers actually telescope about 70ft shorter, which enables them to navigate turns without a pilot car to steer the trailer axles.

InterceptorV8
Mar 9, 2004

Would have been a shame to blow it up.


azflyboy posted:

Was that wind turbine blade somewhere in North Dakota by chance?

Those blades are manufactured in Grand Forks, ND, and watching them navigate the half mile or so to the interstate is pretty interesting.

The trailers have steerable axles that are operated via remote control from the rear pilot car, and the tractor and trailer have to be kept in two different lanes when turning onto on-ramps.

When they're not carrying blades, those trailers actually telescope about 70ft shorter, which enables them to navigate turns without a pilot car to steer the trailer axles.

Yeah, little south of Fargo I believe.

I need to get a video of the radio controlled trailer.

InterceptorV8
Mar 9, 2004

Would have been a shame to blow it up.


Map of places I've been

Not bad for a Western 11 state only driver, fyi this is just a rough fuckaround for the last year.

Previa_fun
Nov 10, 2004

Aww, so I had my slant on. Lay off me!


InterceptorV8 posted:

Map of places I've been

Not bad for a Western 11 state only driver, fyi this is just a rough fuckaround for the last year.

Interesting lack of Montana.

Place 162: Fort Smith, AR. I'm so sorry.

InterceptorV8
Mar 9, 2004

Would have been a shame to blow it up.


Previa_fun posted:

Interesting lack of Montana.

Place 162: Fort Smith, AR. I'm so sorry.

Yeah, the kicker is it is one of the 11 I am to run.

`Nemesis
Dec 30, 2000
Forum Veteran

Are the placemarks accurate? Just wondering cause your Milwaukee placemark is on a gas station and a taxi cab company.

InterceptorV8
Mar 9, 2004

Would have been a shame to blow it up.


`Nemesis posted:

Are the placemarks accurate? Just wondering cause your Milwaukee placemark is on a gas station and a taxi cab company.

Not superclose, I just poo poo them out near. I mean I can log to the closet 20miles.

Sponge!
Dec 22, 2004

SPORK!


InterceptorV8 posted:

Map of places I've been

Not bad for a Western 11 state only driver, fyi this is just a rough fuckaround for the last year.

Sooner or later they're going to make you cross the Appalachians... We all know it.

Edit: If you're ever in PA I'll let you in on my stockpile of Djarum Blacks I'm keeping safe.

Sponge! fucked around with this message at Oct 28, 2009 around 04:08

CannonFodder
Jan 26, 2001



Sponge! posted:

Sooner or later they're going to make you cross the Appalachians... We all know it.
"Hey, I-40 just got closed down at the TN-NC border, let's send him from Little Rock to Raleigh!"

teknicolor
Jul 18, 2004

I Want to Meet That Dad!
Do Da Doo Doo


So have you, or have you ever seen another truck, have to use one of those runaway-truck-sandbar-death-stops? I just saw them for the first time this past week and was amazed at how short they were. Do they really gently caress your poo poo up?

Javid
Oct 21, 2004

My sole partiality is to that delectable spiced meat. Any additional confederation of vegetables shall not compromise the pie as I see it.

Those're usually about 4 feet below the asphalt and filled with gravel, their purpose is to make you not die. most of the time you need new brakes and a bunch of other stuff if you hit one, at least.

InterceptorV8
Mar 9, 2004

Would have been a shame to blow it up.


Sponge! posted:

Sooner or later they're going to make you cross the Appalachians... We all know it.

Edit: If you're ever in PA I'll let you in on my stockpile of Djarum Blacks I'm keeping safe.

LOL

I "stopped" smoking, only to start again after my boo-boo. Found out my native freinds in NV still have some!

CannonFodder posted:

"Hey, I-40 just got closed down at the TN-NC border, let's send him from Little Rock to Raleigh!"


Arrrrrrrrrrrggggggggggggh! No loving ideas man! FYI 70 and 80 are getting hammered right now.

teknicolor posted:

So have you, or have you ever seen another truck, have to use one of those runaway-truck-sandbar-death-stops? I just saw them for the first time this past week and was amazed at how short they were. Do they really gently caress your poo poo up?

I saw a Mexican try to jump his truck to Bakersfield on the Grapevine before. Well, not really, but he was good and stuck on the runaway ramp. I'm pretty good at going down hills without using my service (foot) brake, just using my engine brake and letting it sing, so no, I haven't gone down the ramp.

It's a shot in the head for your CDL though.

InterceptorV8
Mar 9, 2004

Would have been a shame to blow it up.


Javid posted:

Those're usually about 4 feet below the asphalt and filled with gravel, their purpose is to make you not die. most of the time you need new brakes and a bunch of other stuff if you hit one, at least.

Clean set of underpants and a new driver seat to replace the one you sucked up your rear end.

I still can not for the life of me see how you flame your brakes on the Grapevine.

Donner wreck: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wifwg6xWVAU

WTF: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzEckdEW0Ak

poo poo 'EM: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqLUqZC_B7Q

KING OF FAGGOTS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aaT4BzQAl5U

8ender
Sep 24, 2003

clown is watching you sleep


InterceptorV8 posted:

Donner wreck: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wifwg6xWVAU

What happened here? My non truck driving eye says they really over cooked that bend.

InterceptorV8
Mar 9, 2004

Would have been a shame to blow it up.


8ender posted:

What happened here? My non truck driving eye says they really over cooked that bend.

Pretty much, check how bad the pickup is cheating wide before the big truck comes around.

Anphear
Jan 20, 2008


InterceptorV8 posted:

Pretty much, check how bad the pickup is cheating wide before the big truck comes around.

Whats the drop like off that point? Considering both trailer and tractor completely fall from view.

DELETED
Nov 14, 2004
Disgruntled

InterceptorV8 posted:


Arrrrrrrrrrrggggggggggggh! No loving ideas man! FYI 70 and 80 are getting hammered right now.


Cheyenne is about to get hosed hard. They're saying a good foot tomorrow, and 2x than in the mountains. I look forward to watching the gridlock clusterfuck that will ensue on the webcams.


Also, wind turbine parts are hilarious to see moved. It's like slo-mo drifting, but loving huge.

DELETED fucked around with this message at Oct 28, 2009 around 05:59

TheMadMilkman
Dec 10, 2007


DELETED posted:

Cheyenne is about to get hosed hard. They're saying a good foot tomorrow, and 2x than in the mountains. I look forward to watching the gridlock clusterfuck that will ensue on the webcams.

Link? I've always wondered what it looked like up there in the winter.

teknicolor
Jul 18, 2004

I Want to Meet That Dad!
Do Da Doo Doo


Javid posted:

Those're usually about 4 feet below the asphalt and filled with gravel, their purpose is to make you not die. most of the time you need new brakes and a bunch of other stuff if you hit one, at least.

The ones I saw in NC were sand/clay, inclined upwards a bit, and sort of a ^-^-^-^-/ configuration. Are the new brakes because the old ones got too hot, or because your poo poo gets jostled around?

Javid
Oct 21, 2004

My sole partiality is to that delectable spiced meat. Any additional confederation of vegetables shall not compromise the pie as I see it.

The ones here are gravel. Raking through piled rocks at whatever hosed speed you hit the pit with isn't good for anything that's exposed on the bottom. Imagine whacking your brake cans with a hammer a few thousand times.

Javid fucked around with this message at Oct 28, 2009 around 14:10

DELETED
Nov 14, 2004
Disgruntled

TheMadMilkman posted:

Link? I've always wondered what it looked like up there in the winter.

http://wyoroad.info/Highway/webcameras/webcameras.html

They're not live feeds, sadly.

8ender
Sep 24, 2003

clown is watching you sleep


InterceptorV8 posted:

Pretty much, check how bad the pickup is cheating wide before the big truck comes around.

Ugh, I see that all the time here in Ontario. The worst is during winter because a lot of time the back end will step out on snow when they take a bend like that. People don't seem to realize that a 2WD pickup truck is probably one of the worst handling vehicles you can buy.

wolrah
May 8, 2006
what?


teknicolor posted:

Are the new brakes because the old ones got too hot, or because your poo poo gets jostled around?

Assumedly if you're running in to the ramps you've completely hosed your brakes.

InterceptorV8
Mar 9, 2004

Would have been a shame to blow it up.


teknicolor posted:

The ones I saw in NC were sand/clay, inclined upwards a bit, and sort of a ^-^-^-^-/ configuration. Are the new brakes because the old ones got too hot, or because your poo poo gets jostled around?

Because by the time its come to riding the truck jump, your brakes have been on fire for a couple of miles. I'm not kidding about them being on fire.

BeastOfExmoor
Aug 19, 2003
"Mr. Phillips found old Johnny Cash when he was high, high before he ever took those pills, and he's still too proud to die.."

DELETED posted:

http://wyoroad.info/Highway/webcameras/webcameras.html

They're not live feeds, sadly.

Ouch, I'm assuming this is pretty drat early to get snow this bad out there? I nearly got caught on that road during a really late blizzard in April of '02 on my way to Texas and when I came back through a couple weeks later it was really dicey still.

Looking at this picture just made me feel a whole lot better about my commute home tonight:

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DELETED
Nov 14, 2004
Disgruntled

BeastOfExmoor posted:

Ouch, I'm assuming this is pretty drat early to get snow this bad out there? I nearly got caught on that road during a really late blizzard in April of '02 on my way to Texas and when I came back through a couple weeks later it was really dicey still.

Looking at this picture just made me feel a whole lot better about my commute home tonight:



It's actually not too out of the ordinary for around here, although it's supposed to snow harder than normal. The main problem is I80 is a giant artery for west-east travel so there are lots and lots of people that aren't used to or expecting that kind of weather at this time of year. I'm sure InterceptorV8 can attest to the fact that I80 usually looks like a big rear end junkyard after a snowstorm.

Detroit Q. Spider
Jan 17, 2004

I'm dealing with it, Mother.


InterceptorV8 posted:

It's a shot in the head for your CDL though.

So there's no recourse if you have to use a trap? It's pretty much "you hosed up bad enough to not have a license" all the time?

BeastOfExmoor
Aug 19, 2003
"Mr. Phillips found old Johnny Cash when he was high, high before he ever took those pills, and he's still too proud to die.."

DELETED posted:

It's actually not too out of the ordinary for around here, although it's supposed to snow harder than normal. The main problem is I80 is a giant artery for west-east travel so there are lots and lots of people that aren't used to or expecting that kind of weather at this time of year. I'm sure InterceptorV8 can attest to the fact that I80 usually looks like a big rear end junkyard after a snowstorm.

Yea, having never traveled on I80 before I was truly shocked at how much truck traffic there was. I remember driving by a truck stop with more 18 wheelers in it then I've ever seen that I assume were just waiting out the weather.

wolrah
May 8, 2006
what?


deviant. posted:

So there's no recourse if you have to use a trap? It's pretty much "you hosed up bad enough to not have a license" all the time?

Ending up in the trap basically means you smoked your brakes. With an air system a hose going results in the brakes locking, unlike hydraulic systems where a line giving out means you just lost brakes on that circuit.

I'm sure there's some way there could be a failure that is totally out of the driver's control and causes the brakes to stop working, but I can't think of it. IV8 or any of the other actual truckers could probably fill in the gap, my knowledge of air systems comes from driving an air-braked RV intermittently and listening to the truckers on the CB, but long story short it will be assumed to be your fault until proven otherwise.

InterceptorV8
Mar 9, 2004

Would have been a shame to blow it up.


DELETED posted:

It's actually not too out of the ordinary for around here, although it's supposed to snow harder than normal. The main problem is I80 is a giant artery for west-east travel so there are lots and lots of people that aren't used to or expecting that kind of weather at this time of year. I'm sure InterceptorV8 can attest to the fact that I80 usually looks like a big rear end junkyard after a snowstorm.

The running joke is that the wrecker drivers roll out with catalogs in their trucks the day of the first good storm and start ordering everything they want, BECAUSE THEY MAKE MAD CASH THAT NIGHT. It's a big ol dash for cash out there.

This poo poo is pissing me off, somehow "Westbound" means drive till you hit the Alantic Ocean and try driving to England.

InterceptorV8
Mar 9, 2004

Would have been a shame to blow it up.


wolrah posted:

Ending up in the trap basically means you smoked your brakes.

Yeah, you know what brake fade is? Just think about that and that's what happens, the compound of the brake shoe (most tractor/trailers use drum brakes) just gets so hot that they out gas and are useless.

Not having your brakes adjusted right can cause problems, and I think on the other models they could cam-over and then you are in a world of hosed.

Or hit the brakes so hard you blow your cans, but then the spring brakes lock on....

Uh. gently caress.

Telven
Mar 4, 2001

IL2 Fanboy

InterceptorV8 posted:

Map of places I've been

Not bad for a Western 11 state only driver, fyi this is just a rough fuckaround for the last year.

Pfft. You haven't lived unless you delivered to Associated Food Stores distribution center in Farr West, Utah

Geared Hub
Nov 27, 2005

Anyone seen my ball joints?


SG-83 posted:

What about taking photos of all the sides with a decent 12-15MP camera or something for potential future bullshit? I do that whenever I'm renting something (like a car/truck) to avoid paying for some other rear end in a top hat's damage.

My Dad does this with his phone as a backup for moving. [And he taught me a long time ago to be nit picky as gently caress with car rental places, even if the lot jockey thinks its a waste of time] but back to trucking...

In moving circles its up to the driver to detect and file exception forms, that is claiming damage before pickup.
I imagine container shipping has the same deal for drivers.

This is important with conventions/trade shows and household moving because items get shuttled around trucks and warehouse storage a few times. Each time everything is moved there is a risk for damage. Each step should be logged and checked but sometimes it isn't. The guy on the end of the chain usually takes the hit for any losses.

So on an ideal move you have something like the origin agent taking the booking on a move and pushing it through the van lines network to get a long haul driver booked on the shipment [usually a owner operator].

So the best case scenario is:

1. Pickup at Origin.
2. Transportation by owner/operator on one furniture/electronics van.
3. Delivery at Destination.

In that case everything is moved onto one truck, stays on that one truck and is moved off that one truck with the same driver doing all the paperwork.

All the paperwork is inventory control, each item gets a colored tag and there's a condition code sheet so you can mark owner packed boxes as condition unknown, or if something was crushed, broken, scratched or marked before pickup. Customer signs off on pickup, and signs off again on delivery, then the driver/van lines is free from any liability or claims.

But then you get exceptions so lets take that 3 step move and make it a typical move.

1. Pickup at Origin. Origin is in an urban center apartment complex with a long carry, no tractor trailer can get near it so a shuttle is required.

2. Local company help arrives with a cube van and start shuttling the move over to a local warehouse.

3. Transfer from warehouse storage unit to a tractor trailer for delivery. Problem is the destination is in the middle of bum gently caress nowhere and no owner operators will touch it with a ten foot pole [dispatchers will sometimes try to bribe drivers or gently caress drivers by packaging highly desirable high paying moves with poo poo ones].

4. Meanwhile the tractor trailer is overloaded, so this shipment will have to head out on 2 different trucks.

5. 2 owner operators have this load on their truck, they don't want to bother going to the sticks so the household goods are dropped off at 2 different times at an Van Lines warehouse somewhat close to the destination.

6. A local driver picks up the shipment at the warehouse and delivers it.

7. Customer finds a few items damaged or missing, and flips out.

8. The last driver gets butt hosed on claim.

Unless the last driver was smart enough to fill out numerous exception sheets before picking up the load and comparing all of the inventory sheets to the current condition and noting any differences in condition or any missing item.

That step needs to be done each time the furniture is moved. The owner operators are usually smart enough to do this each step of the way, so that way when the poo poo hits the fan, the proper people can get the blame for it.

On the other hand some drivers are lazy about paperwork and won't bother filling out exception forms, so when things go missing it comes out of their pocket.

So my Dad, carries a stack of exception forms at all times. Hes nit picky as gently caress, because he can go to the customer and say "Look, I know you are mad, I am too but it was these jokers at [stage x] that lost your poo poo..."

So as you can imagine, local agents of moving van lines LOVES drivers who are lazy about paperwork

Geared Hub fucked around with this message at Oct 28, 2009 around 21:20

FYAD SECRETARY
Aug 14, 2003




InterceptorV8 posted:

Map of places I've been

Not bad for a Western 11 state only driver, fyi this is just a rough fuckaround for the last year.

How did you like Tracy, CA. I'm in Livermore just over the altamont.

InterceptorV8
Mar 9, 2004

Would have been a shame to blow it up.


FYAD SECRETARY posted:

How did you like Tracy, CA. I'm in Livermore just over the altamont.

I've delievered/picked up at Tracy for YEARS. Safeway and QuakerOats are the biggies over there for me (but not hauling oats, but sports drinks, because QO makes that too) There are a couple of pain in the rear end places, because all Tracy really is is a great big warehouse for the Bay Area. I hate to say it, but that's pretty much the main reason Tracy is there now. But Tracy has made some stupid "Truck Illegal" routes through it....

But after the first couple of times in the town, you figure it out.

Telven posted:

Pfft. You haven't lived unless you delivered to Associated Food Stores distribution center in Farr West, Utah

I've picked up loads out of Corinne UT, does that count? :P

Farr West and Pharr TX, it's like FARR OUT MAN!

InterceptorV8
Mar 9, 2004

Would have been a shame to blow it up.


BigKOfJustice posted:

So as you can imagine, local agents of moving van lines LOVES drivers who are lazy about paperwork

Remind me, if I ever go crazy high and think about being a bedbugger, just to slam my dick in the door a couple of times until the thought goes away.

Funny story, well, not really. But gently caress it, I pick up a semi high value load, fill out the paperwork make sure poo poo is right on my end, seals match, standard poo poo. Deliever the load that I was told to make sure poo poo was all tight on, fat cow behind the counter makes me go outside, break the seal, dig around the load for paperwork, doesn't even check the loving load in, gives me a empty and doesn't once leave her fat-throne. When I bring you 125K+ in street value product, you might want to make sure I didn't rub my loving dick all over it.

Oh well, her loving problem now.

Trailer leaked like a loving bitch all over the product.

Telven
Mar 4, 2001

IL2 Fanboy

So when a trucker is more than 5 hours late is it safe to assume that he spent more than his 10 hour down time in Vegas getting more acquainted with Silphila?

Seriously, I know that the transit time from Southern Cali going to southern idaho/northern utah is 24 hours, and when you're more than that I know you were out dicking around in Vegas. So why not say that instead of making up stories about how your tire blew and you got lost trying to find our place?


I want to know how your day typically goes IV8. Do you get your pickup info from dispatch, go to place, wait for load, fill out poo poo then drive until you need your 10 hours off then go to destination? Then what? Rinse, repeat?

InterceptorV8
Mar 9, 2004

Would have been a shame to blow it up.


Telven posted:

So when a trucker is more than 5 hours late is it safe to assume that he spent more than his 10 hour down time in Vegas getting more acquainted with Silphila?

Seriously, I know that the transit time from Southern Cali going to southern idaho/northern utah is 24 hours, and when you're more than that I know you were out dicking around in Vegas. So why not say that instead of making up stories about how your tire blew and you got lost trying to find our place?


I want to know how your day typically goes IV8. Do you get your pickup info from dispatch, go to place, wait for load, fill out poo poo then drive until you need your 10 hours off then go to destination? Then what? Rinse, repeat?

I wouldn't call bullshit on the tire blowing just yet! Traffic out of LA can RUIN your loving day, I've had a record setting 10 hours from Fontana to Las Vegas run before!

My day can go like this, about 7am BEEP qualcomm goes off, pick up a loaded trailer at this place, could be next door, or loving 400 miles away. I pick up the load, bump the dock load, or trailer swap, and head out on the highway. Each day is different, I don't know where I will end up at, what I am hauling, or where I am picking up at. Could be a long day with a pickup and drop in the same day, or just a plain hammerdown day with my foot flat on the floor for as long as I need to be there.

3 days to do 700 miles, or two days and 1250 miles. My record was under 150 miles and two days.

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InterceptorV8
Mar 9, 2004

Would have been a shame to blow it up.


http://www.blip.tv/file/2759448

Queen of the Road - Thousands of new truckers are hitting the road every year. Are they properly trained to handle the big rigs? Watch Dan Rather Reports, Tuesdays at 8 pm ET

Causing quite a stir right now.

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