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nummy
Feb 15, 2007
Eat a bowl of fuck.

Professor Bling posted:

Try uphill on a cloverleaf so that you start sliding towards the outside of the corner doing anything over 55. Oh, you have 50 feet once it straightens out before the lane becomes the off-ramp.

I want to castrate the traffic engineer that thought that was a good idea.

That sounds like most interchanges in Minneapolis.

God, I hate this city. Nobody knows how to drive here.

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Preoptopus
Aug 25, 2008


Dont recall this ever being asked, (sorry if it was)

How common is it for truckers to give a hitchhiker who is willing to throw said trucker some cash a ride? Just setting myself up a hypothetical situation where I have to get somewhere but missed the greyhound or something. If I throw you 50 bucks would you drive me to your next destination? Also sorry if this is a stupid question.

InterceptorV8
Mar 9, 2004

Would have been a shame to blow it up.


Preoptopus posted:

Dont recall this ever being asked, (sorry if it was)

How common is it for truckers to give a hitchhiker who is willing to throw said trucker some cash a ride? Just setting myself up a hypothetical situation where I have to get somewhere but missed the greyhound or something. If I throw you 50 bucks would you drive me to your next destination? Also sorry if this is a stupid question.

Not a stupid question.

I wouldn't give a ride to anybody. Reason being, crimes against truck drivers have gone through the roof since the economy took a poo poo. I've known about three shootings in the last two months, two fatal. Not worth it.

Bugdrvr
Mar 7, 2003



What do they do rob you and take the truck? Or just shoot you and steal all of your stuff? Either way that's lovely to do to someone trying to help you out.

Preoptopus
Aug 25, 2008


Really? Thats terrible. So follow up question, how many truckers are strapped?

KozmoNaut
Apr 23, 2008



Preoptopus posted:

Really? Thats terrible. So follow up question, how many truckers are strapped?

Just assume that all of 'em are.

At the very least, they've got a crowbar, big-rear end tire iron or that metal club thing they use to check tires. Probably got some strong tie-downs and a tub of mechanical grease somewhere as well if they're feeling frisky after beating you up.

InterceptorV8
Mar 9, 2004

Would have been a shame to blow it up.


KozmoNaut posted:

Just assume that all of 'em are.

At the very least, they've got a crowbar, big-rear end tire iron or that metal club thing they use to check tires. Probably got some strong tie-downs and a tub of mechanical grease somewhere as well if they're feeling frisky after beating you up.

Hell, check this out:

The owner of Arrow Trucking's Address and phone number Doug Pielsticker XXXX Trenton ave so. Tulsa Oklahoma 918-712-XXXX

This has been posted all over all the trucking forums. Now think to yourself, you just hosed over 1400 truck drivers, and how many people who had cargo on your trucks, and now you have all the pissed off truckers going all 4chan on your rear end.

It's pretty safe to say they have left the country by now. Really, the rumor is that they were overseas when everything went to poo poo in the first place, I doubt they are going to want to come home now.

Oops, edited out complete information

InterceptorV8 fucked around with this message at Dec 27, 2009 around 00:25

frozenphil
Mar 13, 2003

YOU CANNOT MAKE A MISTAKE SO BIG THAT 80 GRIT CAN'T FIX IT!


Interceptor, the gauntlet has been cast down. Do you dare pick it up?

http://www.snotr.com/video/3646

JnnyThndrs
May 29, 2001

HERE ARE THE FUCKING TOWELS

Bugdrvr posted:

What do they do rob you and take the truck? Or just shoot you and steal all of your stuff? Either way that's lovely to do to someone trying to help you out.

I've been wondering that myself, even as I do my last round of over-the-road training.

I mean...half the time I'm loaded with some ludicrous, non-fenceble item like 2200lb rolls of brown paper or paper towels, plus driving a 75-foot combo vehicle with air brakes and a ten-speed crash box is a near-impossibility for a neophyte. And maybe some of the O/O's have nice stuff on their trucks, but the company guys keep it simple/cheap, since you might have to change trucks at any time.

blugu64
Jul 17, 2006

Do you realize that fluoridation is the most monstrously conceived and dangerous communist plot we have ever had to face?

Interceptor V8, would driving trucks be a good job for me to look into till the economy picks up/I can find a better job(or make a final decision about changing careers)? I've just about exhausted local jobs above retail, and I'm getting dicked out of unemployment benefits by my former company. I've already lost my apartment and just need something to pull in some cash. I've heard about the arrow trucking business so I'm not sure if it's worth a shot or not, but I (when I had a job) would take long motorcycle rides for the hell of it, and don't mind living out of a suitcase.

What do I need to do, and where do I start?

InterceptorV8
Mar 9, 2004

Would have been a shame to blow it up.


JnnyThndrs posted:

I've been wondering that myself, even as I do my last round of over-the-road training.

I mean...half the time I'm loaded with some ludicrous, non-fenceble item like 2200lb rolls of brown paper or paper towels, plus driving a 75-foot combo vehicle with air brakes and a ten-speed crash box is a near-impossibility for a neophyte. And maybe some of the O/O's have nice stuff on their trucks, but the company guys keep it simple/cheap, since you might have to change trucks at any time.

They might steal your laptop with all the midgetporn on it.

Javid
Oct 21, 2004

My sole partiality is to that delectable spiced meat. Any additional confederation of vegetables shall not compromise the pie as I see it.

Fun fact: at Swift, you can get fired for defending your truck from a jacker. The rule is "let them take it, we can track them". One of the cooler instructors in Lewiston came close to getting canned for beating a crackhead into a coma after he pulled a gun and tried to take the truck.

blugu64: If swift is hiring, they have a pretty quick training course which ends in a job: http://www.swifttruckingjobs.com/

that said, read my posts in this thread to decide if their bullshit is tolerable to you

JnnyThndrs
May 29, 2001

HERE ARE THE FUCKING TOWELS

InterceptorV8 posted:

They might steal your laptop with all the midgetporn on it.

If they really want this ancient Dell 1.5 Centrino laptop with a worn-out battery, they can loving well have it.

And it's amputee-porn, dammit.

ssh
Dec 9, 2001

by elpintogrande


InterceptorV8 posted:

Naw, I'm out of the truck right now, ran from OK to Reno over the weekend and hopped in my pick-up and blasted down Donner Pass fast enough to push Audi and WRX off the road.

Man, and here I decided to blast Mt. Rose the last weekend. I just love seeing the sun come up while climbing that. Donner still creeps me out. Only almost died there twice so far.

Your place out in Red Rock is gone; I drove by when taking Moya (finally entirely moved out of Stead), and almost took a picture for you - but that whole plaza is basically dead.

InterceptorV8
Mar 9, 2004

Would have been a shame to blow it up.


frozenphil posted:

Interceptor, the gauntlet has been cast down. Do you dare pick it up?

http://www.snotr.com/video/3646

Unloaded......

Yeah! Loaded, gently caress no, did it once and that was enough!

blugu64 posted:

Interceptor V8, would driving trucks be a good job for me to look into till the economy picks up/I can find a better job(or make a final decision about changing careers)? I've just about exhausted local jobs above retail, and I'm getting dicked out of unemployment benefits by my former company. I've already lost my apartment and just need something to pull in some cash. I've heard about the arrow trucking business so I'm not sure if it's worth a shot or not, but I (when I had a job) would take long motorcycle rides for the hell of it, and don't mind living out of a suitcase.

What do I need to do, and where do I start?

It costs money to start trucking. You are looking at about 3 bills to get your CDL, and then being forced to work at bottom feeder companies for at least 3 years. At the end of the year, you'll find out that you've worked yourself stupid, and have not a lot to show for it. You have a good chance of dying doing this job, and if you don't die behind the wheel, the food we eat from truckstops will make sure you don't have a long, happy, thin life. I've worked 170 days in a row, which is pretty much uncommon, to think about it another way, that's 10 days shy of what a California teacher works in a complete year, you'll be working under labor laws that don't cover you, because you are under interstate bullshit act of 1937 and loving poo poo like that. You don't get any overtime, you'll have "the man" up in your poo poo all the time, there is a chance that you could go to jail, get fined, or have other grief because of your job. You'll never be able to say "Yeah, let's meet up then a watch a movie, hit the bars, chase tail etc etc" because you don't know when you'll be home. You'll live in a room smaller than most prison cell rooms.

And those are the good points.

ab0z
Jun 28, 2008

by angerbotSD


Why isn't rail used more?

nm
Jan 28, 2008

"I saw Minos the Space Judge holding a golden sceptre and passing sentence upon the Martians. There he presided, and around him the noble Space Prosecutors sought the firm justice of space law."

ab0z posted:

Why isn't rail used more?
Because the rail companies are extremely difficult to work with.
If you have a truckload, you don't get a schedule for shipment. Your item arrives at the railyard and sits there until they get enough cars to justify running a train.
God forbid your location needs 2 trains.
JB hunt, UPS, and so on have enough clout to get a train running, but the average person isn't in much luck. If you have LTL, you're even more screwed.
Plus the last mile will always be truck.

I agree we need a lot more train use, but we need a wholesale reform of the freight system before that.

8ender
Sep 24, 2003

clown is watching you sleep


frozenphil posted:

Interceptor, the gauntlet has been cast down. Do you dare pick it up?

http://www.snotr.com/video/3646

We have a Fifth Wheel truck stop on the 401 with a bizarre long and twisty driveway leading to it that lots of us four wheelers like to hotdog on in the winter because its extra wide for the trucks.

One icy day while I was pumping gas an incoming trucker showed up everyone there by drifting his truck down the whole twisty driveway pretty much sideways and then parking by sliding backwards into one of those big truck parking spots. Some of the most impressive driving I've ever seen.

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad
Apr 19, 2007

Your President approves this text.


I didn't take this, but I thought it should go here.



aah Europe you are the best

InterceptorV8
Mar 9, 2004

Would have been a shame to blow it up.


One year ago today, I was sitting in a truckstop.

Doing the same thing.

Shitty_Wok
Apr 28, 2009

utmost class


InterceptorV8 posted:

One year ago today, I was sitting in a truckstop.

Doing the same thing.

Happy new year

Slung Blade
Jul 10, 2002

You are so bewitched by its beauty, you are not sure if you can wield it.


InterceptorV8 posted:

One year ago today, I was sitting in a truckstop.

Doing the same thing.

If it's any consolation, we really enjoy your stories

Shitty_Wok
Apr 28, 2009

utmost class


Slung Blade posted:

If it's any consolation, we really enjoy your stories

Not to mention you help keep the economy moving!

MidasAg
Oct 28, 2007
The Man of Silver

You are the best. Keep on Trucking. Happy new Years.

Comradephate
Feb 28, 2009


InterceptorV8 posted:

One year ago today, I was sitting in a truckstop.

Doing the same thing.

If it makes you feel any better, one year ago today, I was sitting in my room reading forums.

Doing the same thing.

Happy new year, IV8. (and everybody else.)

Detroit Q. Spider
Jan 17, 2004

I'm dealing with it, Mother.


Flyboy925 posted:

You are the best. Keep on Trucking. Happy new Years.



Yes indeed....

co199
Oct 28, 2009


Hey Interceptor, check out what happened to this dude:

http://www.kdvr.com/news/kdvr-truck...0,1080604.story

quote:

A day of driving turned dangerous in Debeque when he stopped to eat Saturday.

"A gentleman walked up to me and asked if I was driving that truck, pointed to my truck. As soon as I said, 'Yeah, I am,' he punched me in the mouth. And then, threw me in a snow bank and started kicking me and broke my right arm," says Danny.

He doesn't know why he was targeted. He says nothing out of the ordinary happened en route to California.

"I don't know if I cut anyone off or what," he wonders out loud.

But he suspects he must have angered the man who beat him.

...


She says Danny's employer, S&T Livestock, didn't help to get him home.

"One of the worst things that could have happened to their employee happened. Danny was abandoned. He was abandoned at the hospital. He had to find his own way home. And to me that's unheard of. It's unheard of," she says.

So Danny's friend had to drive him 262 miles from Fruita to meet Deanna who then drove him to the hospital for surgery.

"I feel very fortunate just having surgery on my arm. It could have gone a lot worse," says Danny.

I can see why you all carry tire irons and bats and poo poo, dude just got his rear end kicked out of no where by some rear end.

Preoptopus
Aug 25, 2008


So what do truckers think about Coach drivers?

InterceptorV8
Mar 9, 2004

Would have been a shame to blow it up.


Don't worry, truck drivers are used to getting treated like poo poo, and lied about.

quote:

If ever there was a crash that tugged at the heart of the entire state, it was the one that took the lives of Joe Biden’s wife and baby daughter and hospitalized his two toddler sons 35 years ago, just weeks after his precocious election to the U.S. Senate.

It was an unbearable turn of events, from one of the most daring political breakthroughs in Delaware political history to unspeakable grief, and there is no reason to make the accident appear worse than it was.

While campaigning in Iowa for the Democratic presidential nomination, however, Biden did.

“Let me tell you a little story,” he was quoted as saying last Friday in the New York Times.

“I got elected when I was 29, and I got elected November the 7th. And on December 18 of that year, my wife and three kids were Christmas shopping for a Christmas tree. A tractor-trailer, a guy who allegedly – and I never pursued it – drank his lunch instead of eating his lunch, broadsided my family and killed my wife instantly, and killed my daughter instantly, and hospitalized my two sons, with what were thought to be at the time permanent, fundamental injuries.”

Except there was no drinking. There was not even speeding. The truck’s brakes checked out, as well. It was not the driver’s fault.

Biden insisted Wednesday in a brief telephone interview from Iowa he told the story as he knew it.

“All I said was what I heard at the time. What I heard from folks at the time is he’d been drinking,” Biden said, sounding agitated. “I don’t want to talk about it. . . . She must have pulled out. . . . It’s still painful to talk about 35 years later.”

The embellishment is reminiscent of one of the problems that undid Biden the last time he ran for president 20 years ago. He was swallowed up mostly by plagiarism charges, but there was also an incident, taped by C-SPAN, in which Biden became irritated with a New Hampshire voter and belittled him by inflating his own uneven academic credentials.

Among Biden’s claims, he said he was named the outstanding student in political science at the University of Delaware and was in the top half of his law school class at Syracuse University, both untrue, and won an international moot court competition, which was true. He also gibed, “I’d be delighted to sit down and compare my IQ to yours.”

In Biden’s memoir, Promises to Keep, his explanation for that blowup was along the lines of his account of the accident – lack of knowledge.

“I lost my temper in New Hampshire. What I’d said about my academic achievements was just faulty memory or lack of knowledge. I hadn’t remembered where I finished in my law school class. I hadn’t cared. But to say, ‘Wanna compare IQs?’ was so stupid,” Biden wrote.

The crash involving the Biden family station wagon and the tractor-trailer driven by Curtis C. Dunn, 43, of Kaolin, Pa., occurred on Monday afternoon, Dec. 18, 1972, a week before Christmas, at the intersection of Valley and Limestone Roads in Hockessin.

Joe Biden, who turned 30 in late November, was in Washington to set up his Senate office. Neilia Biden, 30, was at the wheel with their three young children – three-year-old Beau Biden, now the state’s Democratic attorney general, two-year-old Hunter Biden, now a lawyer in Washington, and 13-month-old Amy Biden.

The tractor-trailer was heading toward Pennsylvania on Limestone Road when it broadsided the station wagon, sending it spinning for 150 feet, breaking the windshield and crushing in a rear door, while the truck itself skidded for 20 feet and landed on its side, according to The News Journal, which was printed in two editions in those days as The Morning News and the Evening Journal.

Old campaign literature littered the road, along with the truck’s load of corncobs. Dunn, the truck driver, heaved himself out of the wreckage and was the first to get to the station wagon, the newspaper said.

Neilia and Amy Biden died from the crash. Hunter Biden sustained head injuries. Beau Biden had a broken leg that kept him in the hospital beyond the start of the Senate’s new term, leading their broken-hearted father to decide to take his oath of office in the hospital chapel and to vacillate about whether he should be sworn in at all.

“We can always get another senator, but they can’t get another father,” he said.

The state police investigated the accident. The concern then was not that Dunn would get away with anything as serious as drunken driving, but that he could get railroaded. He had plowed into the family of a United States senator, after all.

As the chief deputy attorney general, Jerome Herlihy was assigned to the incident. Two days later, he issued his report, clearing Dunn.

A story headlined, “No Charges Due for Trucker in Biden Deaths,” in the Evening Journal read: “[Herlihy] said there was no evidence that [Dunn] was speeding, drinking or driving a truck with faulty brakes. In addition, Herlihy said, witnesses to the crash near Hockessin provided no basis for a prosecution.”

No further details were released, although Herlihy knew more about the accident than he let on. Years later, he elaborated.

It is hard to think of anyone better the Attorney General’s Office could have sent. Herlihy was a Republican, a good enough one that he served as the Republican state chairman in the late 1970s and early 1980s, but he also knew the Bidens and thought the world of Neilia.

In the late 1960s, Herlihy and the Bidens were neighbors with a common driveway on Marsh Road in Brandywine Hundred, when Joe Biden was a new lawyer. It was before he was elected to the Senate, even before he was elected to the New Castle County Council in 1970.

The Bidens had two German shepherds, and for better or worse, they were named “Senator” and “Governor.” When Herlihy used to pull into the driveway late at night, he would spy eyes looking at him from the bushes and call out, “Senator, is that you?”

Herlihy, now a Superior Court judge, no longer will talk about the accident because he is constrained by his judicial office from injecting himself into a political campaign. He was interviewed about it, however, in 1998 by this writer as part of the research for Only in Delaware, a history of modern state politics.

In that interview, Herlihy said Neilia Biden either accelerated or drifted through the intersection, and Dunn could not stop. The truck driver said she was not looking at him, her face turned away, and the state police thought she was distracted by one of the children in the back seat.

“She was one of the sweetest people you ever could meet. It was so tragic,” Herlihy said in 1998.

Dunn died in 1999, but Philip A. Lafferty, the truck owner he drove for, still lives in Avondale, Pa. In a telephone interview, Lafferty recalled the state police impounding the tractor-trailer and the station wagon for the investigation for a couple of days and concluding that Dunn was not at fault.

“Nothing came of it. They had people, witnesses,” Lafferty said. “He was a good truck driver, very caring. It shook him up. It was an awful thing for all of us.”

Biden’s remarks in Iowa were not his only version of the accident. He offered another description in a speech on Sept. 19, 2001, at the University of Delaware. His focus that day was the terrorist attack of Sept. 11, but he mentioned his personal tragedy to show he understood the country’s.

“I got one of those phone calls,” Biden said.

“I got a phone call saying, ‘Your wife’s dead, your daughter’s dead.’ And I’ve only said that three times in public before. But I say it here because it’s so important for you to understand. I got one of those phone calls. It was an errant driver who stopped to drink instead of drive and hit a tractor-trailer, hit my children and my wife and killed them.”

Except there was no errant drunken driver. No drinking. No speeding. Not even bad brakes

Kinda dicky.

InterceptorV8
Mar 9, 2004

Would have been a shame to blow it up.


And here is another story in this week of trucking:

quote:

Arrow driver JOHN "JR" EISCHENS is still missing!

Truck# 6325
(Moderators...I would not post the truck number if it were not serious...please bear with me)

John's family last heard from him approx. 5-7 days prior to the shutdown. John did not call any of his family at Christmas for the FIRST time in his 34 years.

It has now been THREE WEEKS with no word from John and his family is adamant that this is extremely out of character for him.

When John last called, he had no money. As Arrow bounced drivers' last several paychecks AND cut off, the week prior to the shutdown, the limited $75 advances they allowed their drivers to take- JOHN WOULD HAVE HAD NOTHING.

We are working many angles, frantically trying to locate this driver. His mother, this morning, officially filed a missing persons report for him. She is worried sick.

John is described as 6'1" tall, weighing approximately 200 pounds, and has short dishwater blonde hair. We are working on obtaining a photo from the family.

If you have any information about this driver- please contact myself or any of the other administrators at the Arrow Trucking Volunteer Support board on Facebook!

You can also contact on Twitter:
@danahelps
@songlibah
@TracyLynnP

Thank you!
RT

Arrow Trucking when it failed and left drivers all over the US lost this guy.

PainterofCrap
Oct 17, 2002

hey bebe

Preoptopus posted:

So what do truckers think about Coach drivers?

Seconding this. My B-I-L's second career is driving for Trailways/Greyhound

InterceptorV8
Mar 9, 2004

Would have been a shame to blow it up.


Preoptopus posted:

So what do truckers think about Coach drivers?

PainterofCrap posted:

Seconding this. My B-I-L's second career is driving for Trailways/Greyhound

You guys are huge loving faggots and need to get off the interstate.



Really though, don't really have much issue, kinda pissed off that you can hammer down in CA and I can't, but then again, you have to deal with the chucklefucks in the bus.

Crazy fuckers are those Asian buses from LA to Vegas. Do not get in front of them.

nutcup
Jun 27, 2004

PUBLIC TOILETS


They were almost always driving well over the speed limit when I would come across them. Never really had any problems for the most part. Though a merging bus in chicago one night almost caused a pileup as he thought it was a good idea to jump over an immediate 2 lanes from the onramp infront of me and a bunch of other cars, causing me to snake through a bunch of evasive drivers so i didn't end up killing someone.

Stupid poo poo happens on the road to everyone though. I think Chicago itself just wanted me to die as it seemed to always throw little curve balls at me when i was there.

Anyway, I tended to be courteous towards them, as those drivers have quite a few lives on their hands.

*I tear off my shirt and jump up on interceptors sloped volvo hood and begin squirting baby oil all over my body and massaging my manmaries. I press my nipple up against his windshield.. "ooohh billeh" *Smack* as interceptor turns on his wipers, I slip off the hood while screeching like a girl and run off into the shadows of the party row*

ijustam
Jun 20, 2005



I was driving home one night in my car and got passed by not one, not two, but four coach buses do 80mph. A 70 mph zone (65 for trucks) but nonetheless that was a bit of a surprise.

Marux
Mar 15, 2008

Every day I hear and I see eternity. I am frozen in awe of my knowledge of forever.


ijustam posted:

I was driving home one night in my car and got passed by not one, not two, but four coach buses do 80mph. A 70 mph zone (65 for trucks) but nonetheless that was a bit of a surprise.

Yeah it's a bit surprising having what amounts to a large brick on wheels blow past you in the fast lane. It's pretty common on I-35 around Austin/San Antonio.

Javid
Oct 21, 2004

My sole partiality is to that delectable spiced meat. Any additional confederation of vegetables shall not compromise the pie as I see it.

Only on greyhound can your bus leave an hour early, go 15 over the speed limit the entire way, and still arrive half an hour late.

(this has happened to me)

8ender
Sep 24, 2003

clown is watching you sleep


The bus drivers around here in Ontario are also loving nuts and like to pass in the fast lane even though its off limits to large vehicles.

Aqualung
Oct 10, 2005

Don't worry guys, Ron knows the guy who drives the crane.


They also never get the gently caress out of that fast lane.

Shampoo
Apr 11, 2005
The hair care product, not the Anime character.

Out here (Boston) there are a ton of tiny companies doing the NYC - Boston - NYC route, usually from Chinatown to Chinatown. I swear, those drivers have no fear at all of the road. I've seen the two craziest (Fung Wa and Lucky Star) in the far left lane doing 85+ in traffic all the time. I can't imagine the mileage those coaches get while going full tilt boogie down the turnpike.

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InterceptorV8
Mar 9, 2004

Would have been a shame to blow it up.


Kids are such pussy nowadays.

http://wcbstv.com/watercooler/drunk....2.1406954.html

Kinda funny this story hit when talking about buses.

Students can be heard screaming, "Put on the break!" got to love reporters!

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