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Evilkiksass
Jun 30, 2007
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Cross posted from June PAD.

These are some photos I took at a recent JYJ concert in San Jose for allkpop. You can check out the full gallery here: http://www.allkpop.com/photos/2011/JyjTourSJ/ The lower angle shots are mine.





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Evilkiksass
Jun 30, 2007
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psylent posted:

Yeah the whites aren't quite as white as they can be, but when I up the exposure it starts looking... wrong. I'll keep playing around with it. :)

I think the general policy with alchohol in photos is that you don't show the label. Minor detail to keep an eye out for in the future.

Evilkiksass
Jun 30, 2007
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ashgromnies posted:

Good tip, I only have a 50mm and it was kind of cramped in that venue to the sides :(

I'll keep it in mind, though! Thanks! You think I should invest in a 430EX flash?

You should invest in Lightroom and try and fix the WB on those shots.
Also, I guess this ties into the WB thing, when shooting a band, just like any other subject, you need to consider where you shoot them from. One of your core considerations should be, "what will the background look like in my shots?" In this case, many of the photos have the windows to the outside visible. Unfortunately for you, it looks like the indoor and outdoor lighting do not mix well. Hence, you need to tweak WB. Semi solution in this kind of a situation (assuming you MUST shoot them against the windows) is to strobe them and gel the strobe to match the outdoor temp and then tweak in post.

Evilkiksass fucked around with this message at 00:50 on Aug 16, 2011

Evilkiksass
Jun 30, 2007
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ashgromnies posted:

I have literally no idea what "gel the strobe" means or where to begin correcting white balance(or how to know when I have and how to see if it's off).

What specifically are you looking at that shows my white balance is off? How would you fix it? I do have Photoshop.

Talk to the guys in the post processing thread, they are much better at it then me.

Evilkiksass
Jun 30, 2007
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thevoiceofdog posted:

I keep running into is that the color in the resulting images is way too oversaturated and I can't remove said color without the image looking fake and washed out. How do you guys control exposure so that your colors are manageable?

Shoot RAW, especially if you are having issues with reds getting jacked up. If you output to PNG and or compressed TIFF then those will handle the reds better then JPEG. My 2 cents.

Evilkiksass
Jun 30, 2007
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red19fire posted:

Someone told me once that WB doesn't really matter for concert photos, because the viewer knows there's going to be weird spotlights on the stage, and some venues ban flash.

Well it still matters, you just have less of a reference point in the photo to think something is weird. Depending on what you shoot, you can tweak WB to change the look you are going for. I have started shooting with WB set to 7k in clubs. Everyone thinks I am crazy, but then the pictures come out and all the people look tan, so they are happy.

red19fire posted:

There was another photographer there, blasting it with full-power flash, and his photos aren't that great.

Full power wont really work in this type of scenario, a common middle ground is to strobe at a very low power just to freeze them and then drag the shutter as needed to fill in the ambient colors.

Evilkiksass
Jun 30, 2007
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AtomicManiac posted:

So I got a chance to shoot Ke$ha yesterday. It was probably the worst concert shooting experience of my life. You sign away the rights to your images, then we were escorted to the soundboard at the back of the arena to shoot for 3 songs. 2 of which the only light on stage was Kesha's stupid light-up glasses.

If an artist is going to force photogs to hand over all the images, what the gently caress is the point in sand-bagging them from getting decent shots? That seems completely loving backwards and really only serves to waste people's time.



Post the contract?

Also, shadows in both directions from the feet.

Evilkiksass
Jun 30, 2007
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teethgrinder posted:

Gorgeous photos. :goon: I'd let her operate on my brain. :goon:

Street lamps?

Lol no, you can see the background has no streetlamp, it has a sunset. And he strobed her from the front. This is why he has bi directional shadows. Also the front strobe is not gelled to match and should be masked and color balanced. But def a good start.

Evilkiksass
Jun 30, 2007
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AtomicManiac posted:

Hit it on the head. I know I need to get some gels, but I have no idea where to get started with them. The various CTOs I guess?

Ke$ha contract (sorry for big):

contract

Buy the strobist gel pack, or get a free sample pack from your local theater supply store. Experiment.


Re the contract: sounds 100% standard to me.

Evilkiksass
Jun 30, 2007
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Recently shot LovEvolution After Party at the Oracle Arena. Check out the photos here:

http://prints.photosbyboris.com/Events/LovEvolution-Afterparty-2011/

Evilkiksass
Jun 30, 2007
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DO A KEGSTAND BRAH
If everyones photos were the same, wouldn't they just mount cameras on tripods and automate it?

Edit: To clarify, I don't shoot for the musicians, I shoot for event promoters.

I am finding a significant number of event / concert gigs that pay. Not enough to be my primary source of income, but enough to make it worth my time to go out and shoot the events. As customer base grows, I can see myself having a consistently significant income stream from this.

Evilkiksass fucked around with this message at 20:01 on Oct 2, 2011

Evilkiksass
Jun 30, 2007
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HPL posted:

You know what's kind of fun? Post a set of a show but don't tell anyone. See how long it takes before someone finds it and tells everyone else about it.

Don't even tag it.

Evilkiksass
Jun 30, 2007
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Gr31lly posted:

I love nothing more than smoke machines in poorly lit venues when flash is not allowed!

You understand flash would make it look horrible in smoke right?

Evilkiksass
Jun 30, 2007
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Nilson posted:

Press Passes are a pre-requisite of taking on the job. In my books, they're not payment. In terms of usage, I would say that unless money has been exchanged for taking the photos ONLY, (which, and I don't know about other places but here that means the copyright is given to the payer) then you should be able to reproduce them on your blog/website/portfolio/whatever at will, but just check with them first to see what they say.

But sometimes you got to start out working for free to get a good terms with people. And to build up a good folio of images to show around. Just get out there and shoot, regardless of what you financially get out of it at the start.

What I have found to work well for me is the offer to shoot 1 event for free. I retain copyright, but grant them permission to use credited images for promotional purposes only. I also make it clear up front that in the future I will charge for work, and that this is basically a "risk free" way for them to be sure I am worth their money. Also, I only deal with people for whom the event is their livelihood. If this is something a person does for a living, they take it seriously. If it is something they do on the side 1 weekend a month they tend to not care.

Evilkiksass
Jun 30, 2007
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HPL posted:

Oh man, I am busting a nut right now because DxO Optics 7 has a slider called "Protect saturated colors" that is perfect for fixing those blotchy oversaturated highlights from LED stage lighting.

How does DxO fit into your workflow?

vvvvvvvv http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3410935&pagenumber=14#post399012698

Evilkiksass fucked around with this message at 22:37 on Dec 28, 2011

Evilkiksass
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Gravitom posted:

From what I'm reading a photo pass sometimes get's you free entry, sometimes it does and sometimes you just get in for your 3 songs. What is your experience with this?

Do you clear that with the publicist first or just go to the venue and hope for the best? If they don't give you free entry do they allow you to purchase entry even if the show is sold out?

Every time I have been sanctioned to shoot the whole event my name has been on the list and they just let me in and give me a staff wristband. Every time I have been sanctioned to shoot a limited portion of the event my name has been on the list and they give me a wristband and then I am directed to speak to whoever is in charge of dealing with media people at the event, and then the person will explain how they run things.

I wouldn't stress too much over this stuff, if the people you are shooting for are half decent at what they do, this will be easy. Hard part is getting access to the lighting guys before the show to find out what their plan is for the event, and to get spotlight WB #s etc.

Evilkiksass
Jun 30, 2007
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Shot a big electronic music concert. Check out the shots here:

http://prints.photosbyboris.com/EDMEvents/ETD-Love-2012/21329709_2CjqRj

My 3 favorite shots are:



Evilkiksass fucked around with this message at 08:57 on Feb 8, 2012

Evilkiksass
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I, Butthole posted:

ye gods man just link those monsters. Thumbnail links still have to load in full size before hand and they're massive! Also, Imgur means you aren't hotlinking.

cl.ly is a free file host. They allow hotlinking in the same manner that imgur does. I did not realise [timg] just resized the full image, I will go back and resize and edit my post in a minute.

Edit: could someone please tell me why me pics are horrible so I can improve please?

Evilkiksass fucked around with this message at 21:59 on Feb 9, 2012

Evilkiksass
Jun 30, 2007
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Rukes posted:

I would be extremely careful of posting photos on smugmug, especially with prints enabled. That is a big no-no with a lot of artists/promoters/venues without their permission.

When I shoot these events, I am almost always shooting for the promoters, and my contract specifies that I can use all images for self promotion and print sales. Is this something I should expect to be an issue in the future? I have been working with a small set of clients and this has not come up as an issue with any of them. Also thank you for giving me some tips in the past via twitter. If you have any spare time to look through my photos and give critique I would really appreciate it.

Evilkiksass
Jun 30, 2007
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Rukes posted:

As long as you have it in a contract, thats fine. Just as long as you get the ok ahead of time :) You will find some artists/managements will get pretty pissy about that sometimes, so just make sure you have your bases covered as you expand.

Thanks for your input! I will be sure to look out for this in the future with events I shoot. Any input on how to contact managers/artists to see if they need a photog when they are coming to my area?

Evilkiksass
Jun 30, 2007
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HPL posted:

Ugh. I had forgotten that they allow smoking in clubs in the US.

depends on the state. Not allowed here in Calicomunistfornia.

Evilkiksass
Jun 30, 2007
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http://prints.photosbyboris.com/EDMEvents/Ben-Gold-and-HEATBEAT-TORQSF/22322901_vBB9Wc#!i=1783637659&k=W6Vn9S3

some shots from Ruby Skye in SF this week with Ben Gold and HEATBEAT. I was wondering how others have dealt with the challenge of trying to make a fairly large venue with a very low attendance look packed. I think I did OK, but not great. Would definitely like some PAD style crit for these shots, but from a band / club perspective, not general photography. In terms of self critique, there are a couple points I would address (no particular order):

1. Technical:

1a. I really was not able to get good clean shoots out of camera. Considering I have shot the venue before, and the gear has stayed fairly consistent I was a bit surprised. The amount of NR I had to use on these shots was crazy. I have gone back and looked at the EXIF data of past shoots and the settings I used here and it looks mostly consistent (2.8 iso 6400). This seems to indicate that the lighting in the venue has changed pretty significantly. I went from 1/80th to roughly 1/50th as the baseline shutter speed.

1b. I was using a lens I had not used before 16mm 2.8 fisheye which my friend had rented for me to play with while he used my 14-24. I should have gotten the lens for more than 1 night and practiced with it first. I don't know how I managed it but a number of shots ended up with my finger in the fringe. I guess I am too used to holding my gigantic lenses that a wide and small lens was too much for my grip.

2. Artistic:

2a. I actively made myself try and find new ways to shoot this venue. This included shooting through some of the rigging to try and use it to frame the DJ. This failed horribly. But I am glad I practiced it anyways.

2b. This image is very much indicative of my recent "style" that I have been really enjoying. I try and overexpose the shots by a bit and it really helps to capture the crowd and venue clearly. It also gives a good basis to do some split toning on.

2c. This is an example of some changes I have made in my editing process. I have started bumping up the clarity a bit, I think it helps to add some extra separation and pop to the subjects. I don't know if this is something I will continue with, but at least for this set of photos, I liked it. Obviously the girl on the left is not really in focus, but that is a separate issue.

2d. I am always trying to be conscious of giving the subject enough space to look right. What I am talking about can be seen in most of the DJ shots from the side where I leave them space to look into the crowd etc. However, I am not sure if what I did in this photo is enough. I was shooting in between 2 monitors and there was almost no room. I already had to crop it to get it to look the way it does.

2e. The two photos I converted into B&W are: 1 and 2. I don't know if the conversion is good or not, any input on this point especially would be well appreciated.

2f. I was trying my hand at split toning the images of people in the crowd that asked for photos. I don't know if I overdid it, or if I did not go far enough. Examples can be seen here: 1 2 and 3

Again, any input and crit people have to give would be greatly appreciated.

Edit:

Some things I learned during this "shoot".

1. Switching to the middle AF option on the D700 which is selected point + surrounding points will allow for non central AF but also still project the AF assist light from an on camera strobe.

2. 14mm rectilinear is hard to compare to 16mm fisheye. Should have done my research ahead of time.

3. Shooting a space with a fisheye lens at an angle causes some weird effects. Some of the shots have made the venue look both bigger AND smaller at the same time. I don't know what is going on here and will need to research this further.

Evilkiksass fucked around with this message at 05:38 on Apr 8, 2012

Evilkiksass
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Some shots of Sarah McLachlan from a private event.






Evilkiksass fucked around with this message at 08:49 on Feb 6, 2013

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