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KungFu Grip
Jun 18, 2008



Skinty McEdger posted:

The first episode WWE NXT airs. Michael Cole heels it up and says some nasty things about internet fans. Obviously internet fans being smart to all the insider gossip laugh it off and start to like Cole for showing more charisma and character than he has in years decide to type in impotent rage at the grave insult.


This is going to end up being glorious before it is all said and done.

Look at those marks all of them marks!

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Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Anybody remotely interesting is mad in some way or another.



I hope Josh Matthews is one of those comments.

"GO ON THE INTERNET!"

MassRanTer
May 26, 2001

Fundamentals as sound as the WNBA

Skinty McEdger posted:

The first episode WWE NXT airs. Michael Cole heels it up and says some nasty things about internet fans. Obviously internet fans being smart to all the insider gossip laugh it off and start to like Cole for showing more charisma and character than he has in years decide to type in impotent rage at the grave insult.


This is going to end up being glorious before it is all said and done.

You bastard, I was just about to post these same quotes!

Skinty McEdger
Mar 9, 2008

The Flaming Scotsman.


Twitter is also fun tonight.

quote:

Who else is gonna download a bunch of indy matches tonight and print out pictures of Michael Cole and Vince McMahon and piss on them? #WWE

Atticus Finch
Nov 30, 2008



CM Punk doesn't like this show at all! For real!

El Axo Grande
Apr 2, 2005

by T. Finn


Skinty McEdger posted:

Twitter is also fun tonight.

Hahahaha "I am going to show my support for Independent Wrestling by pirating matches, so that these companies I claim to love see no actual financial gain"

RacistGuidingLight
Apr 5, 2009



Skinty McEdger posted:

The first episode WWE NXT airs. Michael Cole heels it up and says some nasty things about internet fans. Obviously internet fans being smart to all the insider gossip laugh it off and start to like Cole for showing more charisma and character than he has in years decide to type in impotent rage at the grave insult.


This is going to end up being glorious before it is all said and done.

Anyone ever thought about submitting 411 to "The Weekly Web"? Or do we care about the front page at all?

heel turn
Jan 6, 2004



Excuse my ignorance, but would we classify the people making GBS threads all over Michael Cole's awesome heel turn as a smark or a mark? I've never actually been able to figure out what classifies one as a smark.

RacistGuidingLight
Apr 5, 2009



car full of midgets posted:

Excuse my ignorance, but would we call the people making GBS threads all over Michael Cole's awesome heel turn as a smark or a mark? I've never actually been able to figure out what classifies one as a smark.

Smarks are people who give a poo poo about the announce team.

El Axo Grande
Apr 2, 2005

by T. Finn


car full of midgets posted:

Excuse my ignorance, but would we classify the people making GBS threads all over Michael Cole's awesome heel turn as a smark or a mark? I've never actually been able to figure out what classifies one as a smark.

Marks are people who take things at face value and react to them

Smarks are people who assume things about whats going on backstage and react to them

So Marks

Paper Jam Dipper
Jul 14, 2007

"Hey you want some cheese and crackers buddy?"


Smart Marks boo Brian Pillman when he tries to yank out his Johnson.

Wazzu
Feb 28, 2008

This is not the pleasure planet I was promised!

Not sure where else to put it, but wikipedia is great sometimes.

Alicia Fox's Wikipedia page posted:

Alicia Fox is one of the taller divas in the WWE industry right now. She is also the only colored diva we have in Raw.

FishBulb
Mar 29, 2003

Awesome power!


car full of midgets posted:

Excuse my ignorance, but would we classify the people making GBS threads all over Michael Cole's awesome heel turn as a smark or a mark? I've never actually been able to figure out what classifies one as a smark.

A mark is someone that thinks wrestling is real.
A smark (or smart mark) is someone that knows its fake and watches anyways.

Thats all it means

Wazzu
Feb 28, 2008

This is not the pleasure planet I was promised!

FishBulb posted:

A mark is someone that thinks wrestling is real.
A smark (or smart mark) is someone that knows its fake and watches anyways.

Thats all it means

We need a third term really, because nowdays fans are:

people who don't know it's fake
people who know it's fake and don't give a poo poo
people who know it's fake and like to study the backstage things, and the "sport" of wrestling

Hirams Bitch
Oct 24, 2008



Wazzu posted:

We need a third term really, because nowdays fans are:

people who don't know it's fake
people who know it's fake and don't give a poo poo
people who know it's fake and like to study the backstage things, and the "sport" of wrestling

There always was a third term - smart. A smart fits the third criteria, but people actually in the industry laugh at the idea of any consumer being considered a smart, which is why the term has kind of fallen to the side. Truthfully, if you spend even one dollar on wrestling, you're a mark.

I would also argue that a mark is not necessarily someone that believes it's real, but someone that doesn't care that it's fake and just wants to see Hulk Hogan/Steve Austin/Goldberg/John Cena kick rear end and be entertained.

LividLiquid
Apr 13, 2002

No longer livid.


Don't forget the people who know it's fake and think everybody who enjoys is must not.

joshtothemaxx
Nov 17, 2008

I will have a whole army of zombies! A zombie Marine Corps, a zombie Navy Corps, zombie Space Cadets...


There's some nuances too, as exemplified by these morons we've been quoting from other places. They hurrrrr all lethe "fakeness" of a Cena promo but get all butthurt over a just-as-fake Cole promo calling the internet fans lame.

Umbra Dubium
Nov 23, 2007

The British Empire was built on cups of tea, and if you think I'm going into battle without one, you're sorely mistaken!


While we're categorising people, which groups do you think the following case studies go into?

I'll call the first one "The Anti-Cena" - When Cena won the WHC at WrestleMania 25 he stopped next to this guy in the front row who was hurling abuse at him, wearing an anti-Cena T-shirt he'd made himself. Cena just grinned at the camera with a

Hating the babyface means he's obviously some sort of smark, because it's cool to do so, I guess?

The second is that guy on youtube with the hair, the "gently caress Phil Brooks!" guy who posted videos after Extreme Rules last year where he tearfully ranted about CM Punk not respecting what Jeff Hardy did for the business.

Does that make him a mark? He hates the heel for acting heelishly towards a face, but calls him Phil Brooks because it's his "real" name, while forgetting that Phil is playing a character called CM Punk.

sportsgenius86
Jun 17, 2008

yo dawg randytar is back dawg


Umbra Dubium posted:

I'll call the first one "The Anti-Cena" - When Cena won the WHC at WrestleMania 25 he stopped next to this guy in the front row who was hurling abuse at him, wearing an anti-Cena T-shirt he'd made himself. Cena just grinned at the camera with a

Thinks he's a smark but is actually a retard.


quote:

The second is that guy on youtube with the hair, the "gently caress Phil Brooks!" guy who posted videos after Extreme Rules last year where he tearfully ranted about CM Punk not respecting what Jeff Hardy did for the business.

Does that make him a mark? He hates the heel for acting heelishly towards a face, but calls him Phil Brooks because it's his "real" name, while forgetting that Phil is playing a character called CM Punk.


Dave Mustaine Kid cannot be confined to any labels. He is an atrocious mess all his own who can only be classified as "that kid with the hair who is a harbinger of faggotry"

HwoodNG
May 4, 2004

Highly Respected SAS Wrestling Poster

Umbra Dubium posted:

I'll call the first one "The Anti-Cena" - When Cena won the WHC at WrestleMania 25 he stopped next to this guy in the front row who was hurling abuse at him, wearing an anti-Cena T-shirt he'd made himself. Cena just grinned at the camera with a

He was at WM24 too. Same get up.

Umbra Dubium
Nov 23, 2007

The British Empire was built on cups of tea, and if you think I'm going into battle without one, you're sorely mistaken!


HwoodNG posted:

He was at WM24 too. Same get up.

I've seen him a number of times, but it was hilarious when they were standing right next to each other and he's just screaming and ranting while Cena stands there with a huge grin on his face.

There was a gif, but the link in the companion thread is dead.

joshtothemaxx
Nov 17, 2008

I will have a whole army of zombies! A zombie Marine Corps, a zombie Navy Corps, zombie Space Cadets...


Umbra Dubium posted:

I've seen him a number of times, but it was hilarious when they were standing right next to each other and he's just screaming and ranting while Cena stands there with a huge grin on his face.

There was a gif, but the link in the companion thread is dead.

Its maybe the best gif ever too. You can so tell it was these anti-cena dopes' dream come true to get that close to what they define themselves by, only to be laughed at.

TL
Jan 16, 2006

Yeah, it is. Isn't it?

Bowties are cool.

sportsgenius86 posted:

Thinks he's a smark but is actually a retard.



Dave Mustaine Kid cannot be confined to any labels. He is an atrocious mess all his own who can only be classified as "MBRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRatedR69"

Fixed that for you.

MassRanTer
May 26, 2001

Fundamentals as sound as the WNBA

WWE is hosed.

quote:

FahCore @wwe sorry to say but I'm sure the @WWEUniverse is going to introduce RAW to their DVRs when @TNADixie moves to monday night

quote:

KathleenDream @TNADixie why did u susspend Bobby Lashley.....he isn't taking steroids.....I love TNA...and it isn't the same without Bobby Lashley..love u

BURN.

quote:

MelissaMsChif If @TNADixie would listen to people like @theRealFK9 instead of hulkaFAILURE and BITCHoff maybe TNA wouldn't be dead in a matter of months..

UP NORTH!

quote:

nealffischer @TNADixie I see that company to the north let one of my favorite diva's got released. I hope Maria can fly south!

quote:

bdtoll1 @TNADixie Lockdown will be alwesome!! TNA will destory Monday Night Raw in the rating wars!!!

DEAR RICHARD
Feb 5, 2009

IT'S TIME FOR MY TOOLS


I hope Lockdown will be alwesome as well.

BigRed0427
Mar 22, 2007

Remember to believe in magic...or I'll kill you.


I can't even comprehend it.

How can anyone think TNA is any kind of threat to WWE?

TL
Jan 16, 2006

Yeah, it is. Isn't it?

Bowties are cool.

BigRed0427 posted:

I can't even comprehend it.

How can anyone think TNA is any kind of threat to WWE?

The people who think that are dumb enough to watch TNA in the first place.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Anybody remotely interesting is mad in some way or another.



Lance Storm has a new update on his site in which he answers questions he has received recently. Most of the questions are fairly short and Storm's answers are pretty short and to the point as well. One in question, however, is pretty lengthy, as is Storm's reply.

Emphasis/bolding mine:

Question posted:

I've been watching wrestling since i was 6 yrs old, I’m sure you've heard this before, but i really believe that i have a passion your business, I TRULY understand what goes on behind the scenes and the work that people like yourself put into it. I believe I have a TON of things to offer to your business, but what concerns me is that a lot of people in the business make it seem like there is no room for people like me to be in the business, i am an athlete but i don't possess the physique you need to truly make it in your business as a performer, however i feel i can contribute in other ways, but it seems that people like me are honestly unwanted in your business. While I feel this isn't fair i understand life isn't either. My question is how am I supposed to show my passion for professional wrestling when there is no outlet for me to do so? Or should i just say to myself "tough poo poo" and continue to watch and wish?

And Lance's answer:

Lance Storm posted:

To be honest your question and point of view annoys me a little. I hear from fans like you all the time. What exactly do you think you have to contribute? I can only assume you mean contribute as a booker or writer, because that is the only job that really doesn’t have a physical aspect to it. Like EVERY OTHER industry you have to have qualifications to get a job in our industry. Name one industry that is accepting of people with NO EXPERIENCE and No QUALIFICATIONS entering their business in an important role. Just watching or following an industry as a fan does not count. To be a Booker/Writer you either need extensive experience in the Wrestling Industry or a degree and experience as a professional writer. I read a lot of books, am friends with a ton of authors, and have a pretty good grasp of how the publishing industry works, but unless I have a degree, and some experience in the publishing industry, NO major publishing house is going to hire me just because I feel I have a passion for literature. Working in the wrestling industry, at the top level is a legitimate career that requires legitimate qualifications. If you want to work in the wrestling business and contribute to this industry in a creative fashion, go to University and study to get a degree of some kind in writing. Then pay your dues finding work as a writer. Once you’ve got experience writing in either TV or Film apply to WWE and try to get a job. It took me 10 years of hard work to make it to WWE once I decided I had a passion for this business. I didn’t sit home claiming to have a passion and put the blame on WWE not hiring people with no experience. I went out and did something about it.

Goddamn do I love Lance Storm.

The Berzerker
Feb 24, 2006

treat me like a dog


That's awesome.

RacistGuidingLight
Apr 5, 2009



Lance Storm is now aware of the Crucial Crew.

El Axo Grande
Apr 2, 2005

by T. Finn


I wonder what Cornette would say to that considering he is all about having to work your way up from cleaning toilets to being a booker

sportsgenius86
Jun 17, 2008

yo dawg randytar is back dawg


Dylar Addict posted:

I wonder what Cornette would say to that considering he is all about having to work your way up from cleaning toilets to being a booker


He would say that whoever he works for now is awesome at whatever the issue at hand is and that the competition is not.

e: and if he was unemployed, he would say everyone in business now sucks and talk about how he could save wrestling by recreating 1985 or something.

sportsgenius86 fucked around with this message at Mar 1, 2010 around 15:16

FishBulb
Mar 29, 2003

Awesome power!


Yeah I'm sure Vince and Dixie only hire writers with college degrees In writing or Indy promotion turn away people willing to work for peanuts if they don't have a diploma.

The second part is the only part that matters so Cornette is far more correct.

Paper Jam Dipper
Jul 14, 2007

"Hey you want some cheese and crackers buddy?"


FishBulb posted:

Yeah I'm sure Vince and Dixie only hire writers with college degrees In writing or Indy promotion turn away people willing to work for peanuts if they don't have a diploma.

Actually, you do have to have a college degree plus two-three years of experience working in the television industry to be considered for the WWE as a writer. Also, most of the guys in the broadcast booth who never came from wrestling have journalism backgrounds.

As for Indies, all you have to do is be a volunteer long enough and eventually they will give you booking power. But then again, it fits Lance Storms opinion. You have to be doing something.

FishBulb
Mar 29, 2003

Awesome power!


Yeah I'm sure thats what they ask for when they post job openings. There have been plenty of people that have worked for Vince with no degrees in anything, and there will be plenty more in the future. It definitely seems like the most assured way to get into wrestling is to just go out and get into wrestling by getting involved in an indy and hoping you eventually move into something better, which of course is what he says at the end, I just think hes overstating the whole GO TO COLLEGE thing.

Also, the more people that go to college the less valuable my degree becomes so STOP GOING TO COLLEGE EVERYONE

THE GAYEST POSTER
May 9, 2006

Everything's coming up
WUB WUB


FishBulb posted:

I just think hes overstating the whole GO TO COLLEGE thing.

I think this is the standard wrestler response because not everyone makes it and you have to have something to fall back on.

Umbra Dubium
Nov 23, 2007

The British Empire was built on cups of tea, and if you think I'm going into battle without one, you're sorely mistaken!


Burrito posted:

I think this is the standard wrestler response because not everyone makes it and you have to have something to fall back on.

That is if they don't chuck your CV straight in the bin as soon as they see you've been in professional wrestling for the last five years.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Anybody remotely interesting is mad in some way or another.



Ignore the "go to college!" bit if you like (although everyone should go!), the key point remains the same - you have to do SOMETHING, you can't just sit on your rear end at home complaining that WWE isn't hiring you even though you play a mean game of TEW.

Satire Forum Mom
Oct 4, 2003
MY CUNT DRIPS BROWN REFUSE LIKE A DIRTY HOOKAH. PS. THE BACK OF MY THIGHS ARE RIDICULOUS - COTTAGE CHEESE ANYONE?

If you want to be involved with pro wrestling, start setting up and breaking down the ring for a local indy.

If you want to write for the WWE, write for television. Every other tv show is so much more credible than wrestling on the entertainment industry pecking order, so there's your edge.

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THE GAYEST POSTER
May 9, 2006

Everything's coming up
WUB WUB


But... guys... I know a writer!

He told me I had potential!

Edit: Just gonna point out that Wrestlehut would create the most terrible show ever.

It would draw nothing but ire and I would love every second of it.

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