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MassRanTer
May 26, 2001

Fundamentals as sound as the WNBA

There is a thread on the ROH forum called "Thank You Nigel" to thank him for his sacrifices and great title reign. So you can imagine it was quickly filled with poo poo.

Piv posted:

Thank you, Nigel McGuinness for being the champion ROH has needed through this extremely important time of it going to PPV and then nationally (where available) televised programming. I feel awesome for following your beautiful reign from its very humble beginning, to the perfect heel turn I witnessed live at 6YA, to the epic battles with Steenerico, to the nailbiter question of "when will he lose it?" that started with the 7YA weekend. Thank you for being our champion.

I will now take this time to express my utter DISGUST that Jerry Freaking Lynn is the man who will go down as ending this majestic title reign. It's like Jeb Bush somehow beating Obama in 2012.. or the ****ty royal cousin replacing Elizabeth II.. or HHH replacing Vinnie Mac (wait...****!).

Really, ROH? This was the best roster member to give the belt to? Lynn is a great performer, I won't put him past that. I enjoy his work and he has a superstar aura to him; we all know that. However.. he was the New F'n Show.. TEN YEARS AGO!! Jerry Lynn should be a special attraction match kinda guy... like exactly what you've done to Bryan Danielson! If he & Lynn were switched in roles, things would be so much better, honestly. Lynn is, and will forever be, "not an ROH guy." Was James Gibson a good champion at all? Anyone wanna back him up? No! Because he wasn't a real ROH roster member! He was a special guest from TV, just.. like... Jerry Lynn.

You get this belt onto someone who deserves it as soon as goddang possible. I don't care about the Tyler Black whiners, who got tired of his chase! He still has his mitb title match and he should've shocked us all by cashing in on Nigel, right after Nigel put Mr. ECW Nostalgia away for good. THAT would've been perfect. Tyler Black for champion! Jimmy Jacobs for champion! Davey Richards for champion! El Generico for champion! Austin Aries for champion! Kevin Steen for champion! Necro freaking Butcher for champion!! People who have been in ROH and someone the ROH faithful can TRULY respect for representing them.

And yet you gave it to the arguably the weakest babyface in the main event level. Hope you're happy.

Thank you, Nigel.
Screw you, ROH.

So when people yelled at Piv for such a stupid post he replied with:

Piv posted:

For the record, my rant against Lynn counts towards my thanking of Nigel. I'm sure Nigel appreciates my open mind and shares my opinions on Geritol Lynn.

So yeah, I didn't go off-topic.

krash9924 posted:

Thank you Nigel, too bad it had to be jerry, why not Claudio? or anyone else but him.

nobodyiscool posted:

i'm sad tho, as his legacy as roh champ is tarnished for whom he was booked to drop it too. it shouldve been used to push someone to the moon... not give an ailing former indy superstar/major league failure one last moment in the sun.

so in my thanks to nigel for everything that i mentioned in my previous post, at the same time i commiserate with him that an epic title run was not capped off in the manner that he deserved.

MFKR78 posted:

Thankyou Nigel for still putting your body through the mill and enduring pain in order to keep the fans happy. To still go through a match with Kenta recently and put on another match last night must have been bloody hard work. He could have just droppped out and had them change the cards up but he gutted it out.

Of course ROH have managed to flush all the hard earned credibility of the title down the drain by putting it on a washed up has-been instead of giving a HUGE rub to an up and coming star, but that's not the fault of Nigel.

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HulkaMatt
Feb 14, 2006

MATSUYAAAAAAY


Have these people ever been discovered at live ROH events?

...or is it everyone

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Anybody remotely interesting is mad in some way or another.



HulkaMatt posted:

Have these people ever been discovered at live ROH events?

...or is it everyone

Now come on, it's an established historical fact that Bryan Danielson's title reign is widely considered a joke now since he was beaten by Homicide who immediately lost it to Morishima.

Also I wonder how many of the people loving Nigel now were amongst the ones demanding he drop the belt or risk crippling himself 18 months ago.

HulkaMatt
Feb 14, 2006

MATSUYAAAAAAY


Jerusalem posted:

Also I wonder how many of the people loving Nigel now were amongst the ones demanding he drop the belt or risk crippling himself 18 months ago.

100%

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Anybody remotely interesting is mad in some way or another.



This is really strange, for some reason I decided to pop over to Bret Hart's website where I found out about this interview.

Points of interest in the interview:

- Dory Funk asked Bret to induct The Funks, but Bret opted not to.

- When Bret Hart last spoke to Vince McMahon, there was talk about doing a second and third Best Of DVD set on Bret's career

- When asked about his favorite wrestlers today, he puts over Randy Orton. He puts Randy's dad over as one of the best and says that he might be even better than his dad. He says he would have loved to work with him. Bret also says that he'd have fun working with Cena & Batista and says that even though people think they are limited, he thinks he could have fun working matches out with them. Unfortunately, he says the concussion he suffered prevents him from every stepping foot in the ring again.

- Vince McMahon is brought up and Bret says that he wishes Vince the best. He thanks Vince for the best years of his career. He doesn't agree with the way that everything went down, but that can't be changed.

So what's so strange? Because according to brethart.com, they were unaware of this interview and when they asked Bret Hart about it, he told them that he never gave this interview!

Bret Hart's Management posted:

This interview is completely phony. Bret Hart did not do this interview.

Free Market Gravy
Sep 17, 2005



Jerusalem posted:

So what's so strange? Because according to brethart.com, they were unaware of this interview and when they asked Bret Hart about it, he told them that he never gave this interview!




I believe Bret. Bret would never suggest anyone could ever be even close to better than Stu.

LividLiquid
Apr 13, 2002

No longer livid.


Free Market Gravy posted:

I believe Bret. Bret would never suggest anyone could ever be even close to better than Stu.
I'm pretty sure the dad he was ostensibly talking about was Cowboy Bob Orton.

Free Market Gravy
Sep 17, 2005



LividLiquid posted:

I'm pretty sure the dad he was ostensibly talking about was Cowboy Bob Orton.

Ah, I read it wrong

MassRanTer
May 26, 2001

Fundamentals as sound as the WNBA

More Scott Keith blog fun, Keith posts the video of The Rock laughing off Cena's challenge. So of course one guy hates HHH so much he has to rage on him in the comments.

quote:

Comment by hsb3
2009-04-10 16:42:01
I think a Rock return match would disappoint all. You just know Huntor would make it a 3-way match with him in it. And again we’d have those awful verbal fellatio interviews where Huntor’s opponents talk about how awesome he is, and how it’s a great honor to fight him. (Gawd I can’t stand Huntor.)

quote:

Comment by hsb3
2009-04-10 18:28:42
Why not turn it into a Royal Rumble match then. You can have 30 wrestlers trying to top each other in who “Respects” Huntor more. The winner can be Cena, who tells the other 29 that they’re so pathetic for kissing up, only to turn-around and do an A+ “You can’t see me, but you sure can Hear me!” patented butt kissing on Hunter. the nardy boys reunite to take on Hunter’s rear end cheeks in a “Join Hunter’s special club” match.

quote:

Comment by hsb3
2009-04-10 18:30:58
Huntor the Barbarian is Hunter McMahon.

Saints Crow
Aug 25, 2006

Johnny is the name for God on the lips and hearts of all bangers



MassRayPer posted:

More Scott Keith blog fun, Keith posts the video of The Rock laughing off Cena's challenge. So of course one guy hates HHH so much he has to rage on him in the comments.
hsb3=huntorsucksballs3

God, calling him Huntor is even more annoying than when people call him "Paul".

nyratk1
Jul 24, 2006

by Tiny Fistpump


Dissolusion posted:

hsb3=huntorsucksballs3

God, calling him Huntor is even more annoying than when people call him "Paul".

And Huntor the Barbarian is even worse. It's like a Russian nesting doll of pathetic.

JK!
May 10, 2007
I enjoy a nice White Russian.

nyratk1 posted:

And Huntor the Barbarian is even worse. It's like a Russian nesting doll of pathetic.

Not as bad as HUNTOR ~THE ~BARBERRIER! or whatever stupid poo poo Csonka calls him.

Matlock
Sep 12, 2004

Childs Play Charity 2011 Total: $1755


Wrestlehut needs a word filter; any time HHH, Triple H, or Trips is used it filters into mark paul gosselaar

LividLiquid
Apr 13, 2002

No longer livid.


Last Call posted:

Not as bad as HUNTOR ~THE ~BARBERRIER! or whatever stupid poo poo Csonka calls him.
Larry Csonka? From American Gladiators?

nyratk1
Jul 24, 2006

by Tiny Fistpump


LividLiquid posted:

Larry Csonka? From American Gladiators?

No, Mike Adamle.

smashpro1
Mar 1, 2009

Shirley, these things happen in video games. We can't get hung up on real-world morality.


Gamesradar had some coverage from Wrestlemania weekend, and JESUS is that an ugly pic of McCool in the article. Beth looks good, as always


http://www.gamesradar.com/f/a-trip-...041093952743000

FishBulb
Mar 29, 2003

Awesome power!


Holy crap Vince's camera people are magicians.

THE GAYEST POSTER
May 9, 2006

Everything's coming up
WUB WUB


smashpro1 posted:

Gamesradar had some coverage from Wrestlemania weekend, and JESUS is that an ugly pic of McCool in the article. Beth looks good, as always


http://www.gamesradar.com/f/a-trip-...041093952743000



Wh... what?

Karmine
Oct 23, 2003

If you tremble with indignation at every injustice, then you are a comrade of mine.


Burrito posted:



Wh... what?

Cardboard CM Punk likes what he sees.

Atticus Finch
Nov 30, 2008



smashpro1 posted:

Beth looks good, as always
"As always"?

Mr. Cool Ice
Mar 4, 2007

I Terrorism


B-Boy Bouillabaisse posted:

"As always"?

As always!



As always!

Mr. Cool Ice fucked around with this message at Apr 13, 2009 around 21:06

frankenfreak
Feb 16, 2007

Coming from the deeps of the Frankenwald to haunt you

Burrito posted:



Wh... what?
Francine is looking good these days!

Oh, wai-

KungFu Grip
Jun 18, 2008



Burrito posted:



Wh... what?



Punk is ALWAYS behind Mickey.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Anybody remotely interesting is mad in some way or another.



Jesus loving Christ.

For some bizarre reason I went to TNA's homepage and took a look at their page for Christian's Instant Classic DVD. The comments are youtube worthy, what amazes me is that they're just sitting there on TNA's page uncensored/filtered or seemingly otherwise unscreened.

jeff (las vages) 4/13/09 posted:

i like what i see on the dvd when christian cage vs sting and christian cage vs kurt angle form against all odds 2007 it was a ok match but i like every one of the match's also the home of christian cage it was cool but when i saw the oid matchs it a litte low as an sock but dvd still ok people don't like it don't buy it and you like the dvd buy it ok but this is best selling dvd i tell at the people how is not a fan of him kiss are rear end's man tna rock's

Kiss are rear end's man! I feel as low as a sock I tell at people.

christopher (shamokin PA) 4/13/09 posted:

christian cage socks in TNA but why

Maybe he left them behind?

christopher (shamokin PA) 4/13/09 posted:

I see all his match's but is cool the people are crazy that christian cage is gay or what ever you guys say is not cool that's your opinion if you don't like him will piss off ok i thank christian cage is a badass in my book only wrestling fans who say something like that is the losers who don't like christian cage and by way i am a big of christian cage he is the best wrestler alive today don't for that losers and please don't say noting negative i will came back oh yeah the dvd is a badass my buddy loved at dvd is cool and i don't gave a f@ck what you guys think him he is that deam good and guys if don't like will to bad sockers my rear end

I..... what?

CLOUD101 (CA) 4/11/09 posted:

HES A LOSER
HE SUCKS WHY WOULD A GREAT COMPANY LIKE TNA MAKE A DVD ABOUT A NO LIFE LOSER LIKE HIM AHGG I HATE HIM SO MUCH I CANT EVEN SAY HIS HAS HE EVER WON A MATCH IN TNA WHY JUST WHY

AHGG!

CLOUD101 (CA) 4/11/09 posted:

SERIOSLY, ARE YOU KIDDING ME
CHRISTIAN IS A PILE OF CRAP HE GETS HIS BUT KICKED EVERY TIME HE WALKS IN THE RING HE SUCKS HES LUCKY THEY LET HIS GAY SELF WRESTLE KURT ANGLE WILL KICK HIS BUT ANY DAY CPT.CHARISMA MY BUTT FAGGGGGGGGG

I like to imagine he actually said that last bit out loud just like that, FAGGGGGGGGG!

Ghost (Louisiana) 3/26/09 posted:

There is a reason that there are only 7 full matches on this DVD. The rest of the content is bullcrap like seeing Christian's house...who cares? I mean really only 7 matches? I'm sure there is only 7 due to the fact that finding material worthy of labeling not only "classic" but "Instant Classic" would be excruciatingly difficult for the poor soul ordered to do so. It must have taken them months before they finally settled on some "This will have to do" footage. I'm glad this idiot went back to the WWE, but I'm starting to wonder why anyone would want to watch TNA in lieu of WWE. Both of them suck now. Go back to the 2005 formula guys and whomever is booking and writing...here's a tip...FIRE THEM!!!! Just like that loser Christian and then put all of these DVD's in a recycle bin somewhere.

It's amusing that the top two selling DVDs for TNA are for two guys who left and went back to WWE, the World's BIGGEST Wrestling fan expounds on Jeff's qualities AND delivers a diplomatic message to the world of player haters.

"J*BoX" Josh (Wichita,KS) posted:

I'm a hugh Wrestling Fan, and hears why you the consumer should buy this DvD. It is Action Packed. It is the way wrestling should be. Jeff Hardy is one of top 25 reason's i'm such a big fan of this SPORT. This is also Entertainment,but it is also a sport because it takes athletes to do the things these men do. Alot of people say it is fake, but if they look pass the Punches and Kicks. And quit trying to find a reason to not like Wrestling.You will find out there's a whole world beyond the Fakeness of it all. A realness that can not be compaired. So you the consumer that maybe reading this review or just a wrestling fan.This DvD will take you to a world of truly TOTAL NONSTOP ACTION. And make YOU STOP realize that wrestling is not all fake and there's a fun world beyond your "real world" we live in every day.Because it is truly a Sport Love or Hate it's hear to stay.So if you choose to buy this DvD.Wrestling Fan or non-Wrestling Fan alike you will not be disapointed in your purchuse.I MYSELF Give it a HUGH TWO WRESTLING THUMBS UP. FROM Wrestling's Biggest Fan-- "J*BoX" JOSH

At first I thought his name was Hugh, then I realized this is how he spells huge. Also, this is what I think he looks like:



But finally, I think THIS regarding the Jeff Jarrett DVD sums things up nicely.

bill desmarais (warwick, RI) 4/9/09 posted:

The fact it's autographed by J-E-Double F,J-A-Double R,E-Double, T Seals the deal

Poor, lost soul.

An Taoiseach
Mar 23, 2008

World's Strongest Love


Jerusalem posted:

J-E-Double F,J-A-Double R,E-Double, T

I've watched mercifully little Jarrett stuff outside of the last days of WCW, does he actually introduce himself like this, or is it just TNA fandom striking again?

Von Linus
Apr 6, 2006
I complete me.

An Taoiseach posted:

I've watched mercifully little Jarrett stuff outside of the last days of WCW, does he actually introduce himself like this, or is it just TNA fandom striking again?

He does. And he used to stick a 'ha ha' in there too.

Paul Revere 3000
Dec 8, 2007

So like a pimp I'm pimpin'
I got a boat to eat shrimp in
Nothing wrong with my leg
I'm just B-boy limpin'


I thought he only did that back when he was using the WWF to springboard to country music stardom.

Von Linus
Apr 6, 2006
I complete me.

Paul Revere 3000 posted:

I thought he only did that back when he was using the WWF to springboard to country music stardom.
He did, yeah. I don't know if he does it now, he just did it then and it drove me up the loving wall.

Mr. Cool Ice
Mar 4, 2007

I Terrorism


quote:

-John Cena beat Edge to retain the World Title. Truthfully I turned and faced the wall for most of the match.

Umbra Dubium
Nov 23, 2007

The British Empire was built on cups of tea, and if you think I'm going into battle without one, you're sorely mistaken!


Chilly McFreeze posted:

quote:

-John Cena beat Edge to retain the World Title. Truthfully I turned and faced the wall for most of the match.


Hey, I think it's this guy!:

Atticus Finch
Nov 30, 2008



Umbra Dubium posted:

Hey, I think it's this guy!:

That's awesome.

HwoodNG
May 4, 2004

Highly Respected SAS Wrestling Poster

Same guy was in the front row for Wrestlemania XXIV with his hosebeast wife and homemade anti-Cena shirts.

Atticus Finch
Nov 30, 2008



quote:

it is so lame that the draft was scripted

Umbra Dubium
Nov 23, 2007

The British Empire was built on cups of tea, and if you think I'm going into battle without one, you're sorely mistaken!


Yellowjacket Hawky posted:



Ehh, I'd say they've got a point... sort of.

Of course, you'd have to be the most credulous mark of all time to believe WWE would let anything ever happen at random if they could control it instead.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Anybody remotely interesting is mad in some way or another.



Yellowjacket Hawky posted:



Von Linus
Apr 6, 2006
I complete me.

Umbra Dubium posted:



Hey, I think it's this guy!:

[/quote]

I was just at a houseshow in Dublin and behind me, there was some stinkyhole who just kept shouting 'CENA SUCKS'. Like. All the time. It's the most irritating, stupid thing in the world, when there's only one person doing it. When there's a bunch, it's kind of funny.

I have no moral to this. It's just really loving annoying.

Atticus Finch
Nov 30, 2008



quote:

dude the attitude era and the era before that was great and for real men and with there sons of kid age or teens. the wrestling today is awful. when i get to the wrestling biz i will try to bring that back real wrestling we use to know

MassRanTer
May 26, 2001

Fundamentals as sound as the WNBA

quote:

However it really doesn't mean that much. iMPACT beating ECW is like a college football team beating the weakest team in the NFL.

Posted By: CesarmaniaX (Guest) on April 23, 2009 at 11:24 AM

You stupid stinkyhole!

NO college team can beat an NFL team.

Fuckin dumb rear end.

Posted By: Chevy (Guest) on April 23, 2009 at 12:56 PM

There are some that could "Chevy" so stfu.

Posted By: Guest#2333 (Guest) on April 23, 2009 at 02:23 PM

There's a number of reasons why even the best college team couldn't beat the worst NFL team, but the fact someone had to be called a stinkyhole was great.

HwoodNG
May 4, 2004

Highly Respected SAS Wrestling Poster

A reader on the Observer site writes about why he's a fan of TNA. Please note that any editing I did was to put this tome into paragraphs. Any grammatical, spelling or punctuation mistakes are left intact.

quote:

Bill Walkowitz on why he likes TNA

I'd like to take a few minutes and respond back to Carl Evan's column. Maybe he can another point of view. I'm an old time wrestling fan in his 40's and have been watching since I was age 11 when I saw my first show at the International Ampitheatre in Chicago. Superstar Billy Graham and Dusty Rhodes were a tag team on that show. I'm one of the customers that the WWE say is never right. I'm always wrong according to the land of McMahons. So since I'm so wrong according to them and the mindset there, I decided they're the ones who are wrong and rarely watch their product, and very rarely buy a PPV or go to one of their shows.

I'm also a guy when I lived in NH was fortunate enough to work for three different indy companies, doing all the little things that help get a show going(setting up chairs, tables, ring, getting as building, locally promoting shows in commission towns that require a "resident" of the state to have the show put in his name. One of them groups was host to a series of WWF training dojo shows,.so I was able to see guys like the Hardys, Edge, Christian, Kurt Angle(being managed by Dory Funk jr), and also was very fortunate enough to meet Jim Cornette. What label that gives me, I don't know. But first and foremost, I've always been a fan, and I know what drives THIS fan.

For all of Carl's opinions of TNA. TNA gives me more of what drives me as a fan than anything the WWE is doing. Every promotion's going to have its flaws, name one that don't. But TNA has been the promotion that keeps me being a fan. it's drives me to buy their PPV's watch their shows and go way out of my way and get their dvds(like the long journey I went thru to get acoup[le recent dvds that were supposed to be at "major retailers now" but weren't and I have a walmart, the largest most major retailer in the world, right in the town I live in). It drove me to my local walmart and bitch and yell and complain about them having the TNA video game, but no DVDs, and now because I created such a fuss, I was able to yesterday purchase the Jeff jarrett 4 disc dvd set. Watching this and the kurt angle one reminds me why I hate WWE's product so much. I'm tired of the McMahon family being shoved down my throat, and when they see it's not working, what do they do? They continue to do it anyway.

I'm not the biggest Jeff Jarrett fan, but I found his dvd set more entertaining and great to watch than anything the WWE has done in over 2 years. The only recent "WWE" dvd I bought was the one they put out on World Class Championship Wrestling, anything else they put out now you'd be lucky you could pay me to watch it. and if they actually DO something that's good(like letting Steamboat wrestle, which was about the only I liked about Wrestlemania), they put the kabash on it right away, and thrust HHH/Orton in a way everyone can see isn't working, not getting over and nobody cares about. But because he's married to "daddy's daughter" and daddy's daughter is in charge of creative, it's "let's put the blinders on because we know better than the fans who keep us in business will ever know" mentality.

HBK vs Undertaker, good but I've seen better. I've seen where the simplest things still work, I grew up watchingwell put Stan Hansen as a great example, when he came into the AWA he said "forget the NWA, Forget Ric Flair, I wan be AWA champion and Rick Martel, I'm going to be champion". Simple, to the point, bang! you got a reason and a storyline. Or "I came here to the World Class Area because there's one world, and there should be one world champion". WWE's own Jerry Lawler said that when he was AWA world champion. again, simple, to the point, and it got over. TNA at least acknowledges there's other organizations out there, recognizes the past achievements of stars. There's alot of little things that TNA does that still drives this fan, this cuatomer who's always wrong according to the WWE.

Last time I checked the motor city machine guns were aspiring to be one of the best IWGP jr. tag champs ever.I don't know what Carl's looking at but I can see them putting those Japanese titles over on tv.Think Vince McMahon would ever do that now? nope. He's had the chance, did do that and flopped every time. he had the golden eggs of the NWA thing...flopped it, old ECW invasion...flopped it...WCW invasion...flopped it. At least TNA has taken some to build things up, WWE flopps at that too. hell the only group to get the old ECW invasion done right was
Memphis, and who was the owner at the time? Lawler and Jerry Jarrett. So there's your "developed Explanation", Carl.

I was thrilled to see Gail Kim and Christian in TNA, it gave them two a chance to shine where they weren't before and in Gail Kim's situation, lost in the shuffle(again) in WWE). Christian on the WWE's "C" show isn't doing the
numbers that he was doing when he was in TNA. I think AJ Styles needs to go to promo school, but what he does in the ring is totally amazing, there's one of the things that drives this fan. I mjaynot like the way they repackaged
Sama Joe, but I'm a great fan of what he can do in the ring, again, that is what drives this fan. Ring of Honor Without Gabe is like Pizza without cheese and his absence is so noticeable.

Funny Carl, you say the TNA ring work has desensitized fans to complicated ring work? pppps.. it hasn't with me so you should've said "some fans", or "Most fans", your generalizing when you really don't know what all fans think, kills your credibility.TNA has one glaring flaw that won't go away, and that's Vince Russo. For every time someone has tried to conmvince me he's a "genius" that he claims to be, I've been able to give validation to what beasily is nothing but a guy who've overhyped and hasn't created one thing that has put asses in seats. Anything he's done has flopped but because he's Jeff's buddy, he can continue to milk the company out of a paycheck he doesn't deserve to get. I'm not a fan of Foley having the title but it's tons better than Russo holding it, think about it.

"Nothing about TNA tells me there are qualified wrestling veterans who can aptly book a good show". Is that so? Well I guess you're wrong again cause they're drat qualified enough to book a show that keeps this long time fan interested. let's see YOU book a show that's perfect from top to bottom with no flaws whatsoever, and see how you react when people crap on it. before you say something like "well, what about you"? I have, and I did. as a birthday gift, one of the groups I worked for let me, and it went over well, what worked? simplest little things and because of one thing I did it elevated a guy to the next level and he was able to work on that to this very day, he works indys all over the northeast now, so you're wrong in that quote.

I'd rather see Babe Ruth retired than anything WWE is doing. I'll watch reruns of Dog the Bounty Hunter before I watch anything WWE has on. I get WGN and could watch the new superstars show, why? I liked the old Superstars show they used to have in the 80's. Nothing new or exciting is going to come from there. I'm sure Mr. Cornette and I could classify a hundred bad indy groups, anything WWE does,and...your opinion as well..as crap.. because this is one old time fan McMahon lost out on, that TNA and the way they present their show for the most part, has got, and will keep. They are the ones that can drive this fan moreso than anybody else anywhere and that includes MMA. So open your mouth, insert the foot, because, in the case of me, your opinion is dead wrong. I hope you can live with that..

So he doesn't like TNA as much as he hates WWE. I think.

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Sep 17, 2005



HwoodNG posted:

So he doesn't like TNA as much as he hates WWE. I think.

Welcome to the mindset of any TNA loyalist.

"Yeah, well, all those are solid points, but you know what? At least TNA sucks genuinely! You're the one buying into Vince's Evil Disingenuous Wrestling Empire, you and all the other sheeple "

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