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OnoTadaki
Feb 03, 2009


Whenever I see someone posting pseudo-science and claiming that they are scientifically researched and acurate, I feel like letting loose a rage to end all rages. This thread is the home to all of the rediculous claims that people have made from healing magnet helmets to fad diets and their "scientific" reasoning for how the processes are working.

Some of these may be so ludicrous that they do not need explanations, but for the most part, try to attach a scientific explanation for why their claim is false.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IGtDPG4UfI

The claim is that MacDonald's food is unhealthy because this burger and fries she's carrying around is showing little to no signs of aging. She says that the preservatives found in their food is what is making the world fat.

Queue the actual scientific explanation: Potatoes for one go brown when they are punctured and there is cellular damage. Inside the potato cells are an enzyme called polyphenol oxidase. When you cut the potato, this enzyme 'leaks' out of the damaged cells in proximity to the cut and, when exposed to air, begins to make the potato brown. The only way to avoid this enzyme from browning the area is to either a. put it in an oxygen-less environment, or b. denature the enzyme by heating it sufficiently. That it, when MacDonalds deep fries their potatoes, they are denaturing the enzyme that causes browning in the first place, so their fries cannot possibly brown!

Enzymes found in most all foods are one of the primary reasons those foods spoil. By denaturing the enzymes (applying heat,) you can deactivate the enzymes and drastically increase the shelf life of a food product. Once the enzymes have been taken out of the picture, all that is left is bacterial growth on the food product. Drying and salting has been a common practice for thousands of years, and this is exactly what MacDonalds and this woman have done. The food was cooked and heavily salted, then left to dry in a dark lunch box, sealed from humidity. The dry and salted foodstuffs in the box became an inhospitable environment for bacterial growth, and therefore, has not mildewed.

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Mottocracy
Sep 30, 2008


Every time I hear the Dyatlov Pass incident brought up I want to punch someone.

Ratjaculation
Aug 03, 2007


Someone once told me the moon doesn't fall to earth because of cows farts, prove them wrong OP

That Turkey Story
Mar 30, 2003



Ratjaculation posted:

Someone once told me the moon doesn't fall to earth because of cows farts, prove them wrong OP

Pretty sure this is actually true.

Toymachine
Jul 02, 2007

Because I'm tight like that.

Black people have an extra muscle in their calf region which allows them to run faster and jump longer distances. It also gives them an affinity for Kool-Aid and Watermelon.

Twisted Echidna
Apr 28, 2004
the red titles are gone now

McD's food doesn't go bad like normal food does though. It just sort of fossilizes and keeps its shape and everything. It doens't go moldy or anything. It's weird.

Also I saw What the Bleep and it said that I can control the future because my wishes control quantum physics.

Gravitas Shortfall
Jul 17, 2007

Trip cancelled due to special circumstances.

Twisted Echidna posted:

McD's food doesn't go bad like normal food does though. It just sort of fossilizes and keeps its shape and everything. It doens't go moldy or anything. It's weird.

I used to work at McDonalds, the buns would go mouldy really really fast.

BastardySkull
Apr 12, 2007

ARF! ARF! ARF!

The myth that the Large Hadron Collider in Geneva can create a black hole. It can, theoretically, but they would decay so fast as to be negligent and cause zero damage to anything around them. Incidentally they would have already been created countless times in our atmosphere already.

So shut the gently caress up.

FogHelmut
Dec 18, 2003

"I don't like to hear cut-and-dried sermons. No--when I hear a man preach, I like to see him act as if he were fighting bees."

Fact: Twinkies also don't rot, and if left out in the open, they will expand and contract with the weather.


Pseudoscience: Bacon is healthy because most of the fat cooks off.

OnoTadaki
Feb 03, 2009


Gravitas Shortfall posted:

I used to work at McDonalds, the buns would go mouldy really really fast.

Exactly. MacDonalds food will go bad, the bread is not corrugated cardboard or something. Putting a hot burger on the bun and putting it in the lunch box helps make the bun inhospitable for bacteria by drying it, saturating it in grease and salting it. In this environment it will dry out and not mildew. Otherwise, it's just normal bread and is subject to the same laws of science as loaves you buy at the grocery store.

Daktar
Aug 19, 2008


Orgone and the loving retards who believe it, along with the whole 'radioations are bad hurrr ' thing. Wi-fi is not giving you headaches, you moron. And even if it did, how come you're not in constant crippling pain what with being bombarded by cosmic background radiation, commercial radio waves and, oh yeah, the visible spectrum all the time?

Twisted Echidna posted:

Also I saw What the Bleep and it said that I can control the future because my wishes control quantum physics.

This. I recently read The Lovers by Phillip José Farmer and the society in it read like one that had implemented The Secret as its state religion. Good things happen to you because you want them to. Conversely, bad things happen because you also want them too, because you weren't thinking positively. It boggles the mind that people can actually believe this in real life.

Daktar fucked around with this message at Mar 18, 2009 around 17:28

Geolicious
Oct 21, 2003

Have a look at this beautiful motherfucking planet. It was last seen being awesome in the universe where it is right now being awesome as usual.


Satan put fossils into the ground to trick us into believing in an old Earth.

Hallowed
May 28, 2007

It's a pipe bomb!

Geolicious posted:

Satan put fossils into the ground to trick us into believing in an old Earth.

God put the fossils in the ground during the Great Flood to trick us into thinking that... the... old...

Wtf?

Twisted Echidna
Apr 28, 2004
the red titles are gone now

Gravitas Shortfall posted:

I used to work at McDonalds, the buns would go mouldy really really fast.

But you throw those ones out right? That doesn't disprove anything!

BastardySkull posted:

The myth that the Large Hadron Collider in Geneva can create a black hole. It can, theoretically, but they would decay so fast as to be negligent and cause zero damage to anything around them. Incidentally they would have already been created countless times in our atmosphere already.

So shut the gently caress up.

Hawkings deterioration is merely theoretical, and that sucker will be the Doom Of Us All.

Also, Leonardo Da Vinci was from the future, but he got stuck in the past somehow.

OnoTadaki
Feb 03, 2009


Daktar posted:

Orgone and the loving retards who believe it

Wow... Even the Wiki page doesn't believe it.

Daktar
Aug 19, 2008


OnoTadaki posted:

Wow... Even the Wiki page doesn't believe it.

Wiki generally errs on the side of skepticism when it comes to pseudoscience, doesn't it? Unless the fanatic morons who believe start an edit war, of course.

Geolicious posted:

Satan put fossils into the ground to trick us into believing in an old Earth.



RandomFerret
Apr 18, 2008


Real Stunning Real Cream

Twisted Echidna posted:

Also, Leonardo Da Vinci was from the future, but he got stuck in the past somehow.

This one is half-true, but you're actually thinking of Tesla.

awdio
Jan 25, 2006

HOLY SHIT


On The Montel Williams Show, Montel promoted the use of psychics, such as Sylvia Brown, to provide made up information for parents of missing children. Terrible.

That Dog From TV
Sep 06, 2007

by Fistgrrl


Geolicious posted:

Satan put fossils into the ground to trick us into believing in an old Earth.

I don't think this qualifies as "pseudoscience" so much as "incredibly dumb."

Stuntcock
Oct 15, 2000

Annoyed, but NOT DEAD


Geolicious posted:

Satan put fossils into the ground to trick us into believing in an old Earth.
I have actually heard this.

Daktar
Aug 19, 2008


awdio posted:

On The Montel Williams Show, Montel promoted the use of psychics, such as Sylvia Brown, to provide made up information for parents of missing children. Terrible.

Didn't she once say that a kid was dead, which has got to be pretty horrible for the parents, but then it turned up alive?

heeen
May 14, 2005

CAT NEVER STOPS

What happened to those Steorn people and their Orbo technology?

That Turkey Story
Mar 30, 2003



Twisted Echidna posted:

Also I saw What the Bleep and it said that I can control the future because my wishes control quantum physics.

I'd say probably once every 3 or 4 months I come across someone who talks about how great What the Bleep is and I have to awkwardly change the subject to not insult them.

Twisted Echidna
Apr 28, 2004
the red titles are gone now

RandomFerret posted:

This one is half-true, but you're actually thinking of Tesla.

There can be more than one displaced time traveller.

That Turkey Story posted:

I'd say probably once every 3 or 4 months I come across someone who talks about how great What the Bleep is and I have to awkwardly change the subject to not insult them.

I had a physical therapist that said I must want to be in pain all the time because I haven't changed the present ala What the Bleep. They weren't my physical therapist after that.

awdio
Jan 25, 2006

HOLY SHIT


Daktar posted:

Didn't she once say that a kid was dead, which has got to be pretty horrible for the parents, but then it turned up alive?

I wouldn't be surprised. But hey, psychics aren't always right about everything.

Nevets
Sep 11, 2002


Twisted Echidna posted:

Also, Leonardo Da Vinci was from the future, but he got stuck in the past somehow.

Actually, that is a common misconception. Da Vinci was actually Merlin, no time travel involved, just a few really long naps, Rip Van Winkle style. You know how he got Excalibur from the Lady of the Lake? Screw pumps and flying machines. There is also some strong anecdotal evidence that Dick Clark is actually Rasputin, and some people even believe that Pope Benedict is Vlad the Impaler.

Zero Credibility
Aug 28, 2008

Now, I eat the banana!


Daktar posted:





Own it.

My pseudoscience annoyance is misconceptions about stem cell research. No, fetuses aren't used. Embryos are. Embryos that were fertilized less than twelve days prior to the research. Embryos that have never even been inside a human. So shut the gently caress up.

Pato
Mar 15, 2006
Duck

awdio posted:

On The Montel Williams Show, Montel promoted the use of psychics, such as Sylvia Brown, to provide made up information for parents of missing children. Terrible.

I hate this bitch. Here's a site detailing all her bullshit.

http://www.stopsylvia.com/home/

And this is the story of that "dead" kid who turned up alive 4 years later, Shawn Hornbeck.

http://www.stopsylvia.com/articles/...hornbeck2.shtml

Plavski
Feb 01, 2006

A one, and a two and a five... three, sir!


As a youngster, I was told black people can't swim.

And you know, I still have no idea whether such a ridiculous notion is actually true.

Geolicious
Oct 21, 2003

Have a look at this beautiful motherfucking planet. It was last seen being awesome in the universe where it is right now being awesome as usual.


Stuntcock posted:

I have actually heard this.

I was raised to believe this. Or that God put them there to test our faith. I was raised to believe in a very snarky and angry God.

That Dog From TV posted:

I don't think this qualifies as "pseudoscience" so much as "incredibly dumb."

Well, most pseudoscience these days is incredibly dumb because we can easily apply the scientific method and falsify it. But there is the "Young Earth" movement and the proponents of ID, who may not believe that Satan planted fossils, but they still have some whacked out "scientific" ideas.

keep punching joe
Jan 22, 2006

Die Satan!

Measles vaccinations are all part of a Global conspiracy of Eugenicists to turn the population into compliant Autistic zombies.

BitchKillaKilla
Mar 16, 2009

by Ozma


FogHelmut posted:

Fact: Twinkies also don't rot, and if left out in the open, they will expand and contract with the weather.


Pseudoscience: Bacon is healthy because most of the fat cooks off.

Well bacon fat is good for you because helps your body absorb vitamins.

Clanpot Shake
Aug 10, 2006
shake shake!

Plavski posted:

As a youngster, I was told black people can't swim.

And you know, I still have no idea whether such a ridiculous notion is actually true.
My dad told me that in boot camp none of the black guys could pass the swimming test; they just sunk like rocks. Something about denser bones.

JOman 20XX
Apr 27, 2008

Polluting the net since 199X


Jenny McCarthy and her anti-vaccination movement makes me sick because that has a body-count. Recent court rulings have put a damper in her nonsense, but that doesn't help the thousands of babies that got Measles because their parents heard it was wrong to vaccinate from a woman who is famous for picking her nose and being naked.

Mike the TV
Jan 14, 2008


BitchKillaKilla posted:

Well bacon fat is good for you because helps your body absorb vitamins.

And fat doesn't make you fat.

runupon cracker
Jan 13, 2006


Dark Matter

"Gee, space doesn't work like it should based on what we've observed. What could possibly be wrong?"

"Well obviously we haven't done anything wrong, so it must be, uhhhh... some mass we can't detect yet, yeah that's it, we'll call it Dark Matter (doesn't that sound cool?)"

Stuntcock
Oct 15, 2000

Annoyed, but NOT DEAD


I forgot about this.

What a loving prick to give all that invented, misleading information that had the family in the wrong direction for years, thinking about what might've happened to their kid. Total loving lies, to a grieving families.

Crows Turn Off
Jan 07, 2008

turn in your old, worn-out for the war effort

JOman 20XX posted:

Jenny McCarthy and her anti-vaccination movement makes me sick because that has a body-count. Recent court rulings have put a damper in her nonsense, but that doesn't help the thousands of babies that got Measles because their parents heard it was wrong to vaccinate from a woman who is famous for picking her nose and being naked.
Not only that, the study that those "vaccines cause autism" people used as their sole reason for believing this was recently found to be completely wrong and made-up....
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/li...icle5683671.ece

BullitNutz
Jun 02, 2005
Two Plus Two Is Jello

Plavski posted:

As a youngster, I was told black people can't swim.

And you know, I still have no idea whether such a ridiculous notion is actually true.

I heard this as well - fucker said black people have less fat and thus can't float as well. I pushed the envelope by pointing out that white people are descended from fish and black people are descended from cows, thus the whole "man as domesticated animal" heritage. I don't think he enjoyed when I slapped on a real thick fake TAYNUHSEEEE accent.

Stuntcock
Oct 15, 2000

Annoyed, but NOT DEAD


Plavski posted:

As a youngster, I was told black people can't swim.

And you know, I still have no idea whether such a ridiculous notion is actually true.
Katrina.

(actually, the only person I know personally that died is white, very white)

Seriously, I'm from (and back in) New Orleans, and Carlos Mencia made that and other jokes right after...

Well, he's got a restauarant now, and people are HISSING and giving dirty looks in public places where they've mentioned that they work there, even to the point that he was supposed to ride in Orpheus' Mardi Gras Parade as one of the 'Captains' and there was a loud, many-voiced insistence that he be removed immediately. They dropped him.

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