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TUS
Feb 19, 2003

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The Shield is the only show I've watched from the first run of the first episode in the first season to the last episode in the last season. I did not miss an episode's first run, and if I did, it was recorded or DVR'd and I watched it immediately. I guess Im the only guy who likes The Shield better then the Wire. v:shobon:v

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TUS
Feb 19, 2003

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Bhaal posted:

and came across an offhand comment on some site that spoiled her on one of the worst spoilers you could run into for the show (people who have watched the show might want to shut up ITT about guessing as to which spoiler it was).

Oh believe me, there's only one option it could have been.

I can't think of a single episode that sticks out. Everything was great for its own reason. One thing that does stick out is the song selection. They made "Bawitdaba" sound bad-rear end. And I always get teary-eyed when "Overcome" comes on.

TUS
Feb 19, 2003

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Andre and Weathers were characters in the show, I wouldn't consider them cameos. Johnson wins for being so drat random.

TUS
Feb 19, 2003

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Captain Charisma posted:

the Strike Team jacking the Armenian money train, and the consequences of it.

It really is kind of a thing where S1 is really Season 0, because it seems like the entire show after that is centered around the money train theft.


I think it's also interesting that the big storyline of seasons 5 (and I guess some of 6 and 7) is based on some quick, throw-a-way bust done in the middle of a previous episode.

TUS
Feb 19, 2003

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A Violence Gang posted:

If you're talking about Lem taking the heroin, I don't think that's an accurate description. That happens when the team is searching for Angie's body that Antwon buried with Shane and Army's bullets in her. A dealer tips Lem that the body is buried in a park near "the horses"; the team digs near a stable in that park but doesn't find it. Lem goes back asking for more precise directions and realizes the dealer meant it was near a carousel, not the stables. He takes the dealer's heroin stash as collateral to ensure his directions are accurate, and Emolia, the dealer's girlfriend, sees him. So it was all part of the main plot of Season 4.

Well you're right in that it wasn't as insignificant as I made it out to be... but with all the poo poo that had happened prior to that, you wouldn't have thought they'd spend an entire season's main story arc on a quick decision made by one of the main characters "side kicks".

TUS
Feb 19, 2003

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Mackey's MO has always been that if the Strike Team could regulate the drug trade in Farmington, gang violence will decrease. Problem is that he tried to make profit doing that and hosed up the ultimate goal numerous times. Does the end justify the means? For example in "Pilot" with the guy who had the young girl trapped, is it ok that Mackey clocks him in the face with a phone book with no absolute proof? Even though it did lead to finding the kid?

Enough of that, does anyone have a spook street shuffle gif?

TUS
Feb 19, 2003

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redz posted:

Apparently the season 7 dvd came out yesterday, I didn't see it at Bestbuy but will most definitely be picking that up next time I swing by.

http://www.amazon.com/Shield-Season-Seven-Final-Act/dp/B0020TS5EM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1244692755&sr=8-1

Got it on Tuesday and I am on the last disk as we speak, I am at the Victor Samuel Mackey admission scene and it was just as good as I remembered. I like how Shawn Ryan said a movie would be possible after Mackey serves his 3 years with ICE that could be interesting.

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Feb 19, 2003

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Lincolnstein posted:

Just finished season 5 and oh my god, why? He was alive for a few seconds after it happened, oh god. It just feels so wrong what happened to him after saving someone else from a grenade. Ugh.

Also, why does it feel like Lem was just pushed to the side during season 6? I'm only a few episodes in but it just feels like he was a dirty cop and he deserved what happened to him, which is really hosed up. Lem had a huge heart and was a really good cop and he didn't even get a proper burial..

I believe there was a webisode (Is that the proper phrasing) that was supposed to take place inbetween seasons 5 and 6 that indicated (Lem was given a official burial.) It SHOULD be a special feature on one of those seasons.

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Feb 19, 2003

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Chinook posted:

I just watched the first episode (newbie here). What the gently caress? I didn't see that coming. What kind of show is this? I mean, is this like Dexter or something? Craziness.

I'm looking forward to episode 2. :)

I think you need to phrase it, is Dexter like this?

Believe it or not, that's just the tip of the iceberg. Enjoy the ride!

TUS
Feb 19, 2003

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rejutka posted:

By the way, after you finish watching The Shield, roll right into Sons of Anarchy. It has a stupendous cast, great writing and a late season two guest star that should have you making silly squee noises as you mark right the gently caress out.

Haha, I agree in theory... but you'd be vastly confused as to why Holland "Dutch" Wagenbaugh is suddenly some evil, stalkerish federal agent and Curtis "Lem(onhead)" Lemanski has only been on for like 20 seconds so far.

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Feb 19, 2003

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Jerusalem posted:

I had no idea about this, that's great, looking forward to seeing him.

Lem's been on Sons for about 20 seconds total so far. Hopefully his character is recurring for S3, though.

TUS
Feb 19, 2003

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BIG TITTY HMONG posted:

Holy poo poo-tit loving christ, the end of season 5 had me crying and throwing things at my TV. I watch a lot of TV, and this is the first show that's made me do that.

Oh to be able to watch this series for the first time again :smith:

TUS
Feb 19, 2003

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Junkenstein posted:

Have you seen Sons of Anarchy?

If not, why not? And that goes for everyone in this thread.

Been there, done that... have the gang tag.

TUS
Feb 19, 2003

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The last couple pages got me dusting up my Shield collection. Unfortunately, at some point I lost Season 1. But starting with S2 is just fine for me.

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Feb 19, 2003

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Wartime Consigliere posted:

Got my autographed Shield script from Shawn Ryan. Very awesome.

Which episode?

TUS
Feb 19, 2003

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KilGrey posted:

For people who have watched this show before, what do you think was the point of no return for Vic? Was there ever a time you just stopped rooting for him period? (outside of the end of the first ep, you could definitely call that a point of no return but after that what point would it be?)

I think the safest answer as a Point of No return is Money Train. Most of the big plot points for the rest of the season start revolving around the Money Train the issues that lie therein. On a smaller scale, I think when Vic is allowed to patrol the streets after the Decoy Squad leaves is a pivotal point too.

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Feb 19, 2003

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Dead Snoopy posted:

I like to think that, even though it wasn't explicitly stated, Gilroy had a hand in fueling Vic's decision. Almost all of Vic's intel decisions are made post-Gilroy and Vic had to learn a bit from that scenario and get more creative.

The Real Estate issue with Gilroy or the YOU'RE BEING SENT TO MEXICO WITH A SNIPER WATCHING THE WHOOOLLLLLEEEE TIME issue?

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Feb 19, 2003

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Dead Snoopy posted:

I was referencing the decision to kill Terry. Gilroy's contacts leaked it to Ben that Crawley was getting a deal and he was the only man hand picked by Aceveda. Ben obviouly felt that whatever dirt Vic was into could hurt him politically. Justice probably thought whatever info could be gathered on Vic would lead to taking down a higher up official, thinking Ben was getting a direct cut in Vic's street action [which he wasn't].

I don't have S1 on DVD (it's been lost for a while, I probably should pick it up again) but was Gilroy a big character is Season 1? I really have forgot pretty much everything about S1 except for Pilot.

TUS
Feb 19, 2003

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I keep on forgetting how slimey Kavanaugh is every time I put in Season 5. God drat.

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ruddiger posted:

They aren't even cops, Vic and co. are gangsters of the highest degree.

You mean like Al Capone with a badge?

edit - Watching seasons 6 and 7 again, Rezien is such a bitch. I can't tell if it was on purpose or not since they try to give him some power, but he gets slapped around like it's nothing.

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Junkenstein posted:

But even then, he only did it because he thought Corrie was going to jail. I'm struggling to think of a situation where Vic acted for himself and only for himself.

Here's a question: if Corrie wasn't involved and it was a choice between selling Ronnie out and getting away with it, or both of them going down, what would Vic do?

Personally I'd say he'd sell Ronnie out straight away, but it's an interesting question, I reckon. I do believe he'd do everything he possibly could to keep Ronnie out of jail whilst still saving his own arse.


Vic was 100% willing to go to switch places with Lem if it meant Lem could go free and Shane/Ronnie wouldn't be tried. While Vic was never in it for himself, he always hung the deed above whose ever head he was working with.

The question of the show would be what would you sacrifice for the greater good? The Strike team didn't want violence on the streets, so they controlled the drug trafficing to stop (slow?) the gang warfare.

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TUS posted:

Vic was 100% willing to go to switch places with Lem if it meant Lem could go free and Shane/Ronnie wouldn't be tried. While Vic was never in it for himself, he always hung the deed above whose ever head he was working with.

The question of the show would be what would you sacrifice for the greater good? The Strike team didn't want violence on the streets, so they controlled the drug trafficing to stop (slow?) the gang warfare.

Finishing S7 - Vic walked away from signing the original ICE deal because Ronnie wasn't part of it. It was only when his family was in the crosshairs that he signed the deal minus Ronnie. He has like a tier of caringness for how he reacts.

edit - I think Vic's confession scene is probably my favorite scene in television

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redz posted:

All 3 posts above me have poo poo that should be spoilered, unspoilered. Come on people don't ruin this show for someone!

Even though I disagree (at least with mine), better be safe then sorry.

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Pedro De Heredia posted:

But he found out from Shane that Corrine was helping the cops and wasn't actually in danger. At that point he could have told Ronnie to run, and ran himself.. but didn't.

I coulda sworn the timeline was: Vic turns down ICE deal/Corrine gets arrested/Vic signs deal; spills guts/Shane calls Vic from Payphone to say Corrine was on deal. So by the time Vic got the news, it was "too late." I don't think he could have told Ronnie to run because that would have violated his deal... which nulls his immunity.

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Feb 19, 2003

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It was the best use of Bawitdaba I've seen/heard v:shobon:v

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Rupert Buttermilk posted:

Man, that "Overcome" video makes me want to watch the whole drat show all over again.

I had loved the show til that point anyway, but that montage sealed it for me that this show could probably be my favorite of all time. Just that last shot Of Mackey walking down those stares with the gigantic grin on his face as the rest of the crew looks scared out of their gourds at the Money Train pull. always gets me.

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Feb 19, 2003

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I, Butthole posted:

I'm just about to finish up Season 1, this series is brilliant. (final episode spoiler) The way Vic smashes through the gate after the witness to the second cop killing was loving hilarious. Anyone have a gif?

Wow, this is a pretty impressive thought after the first season since it doesn't have its legs yet. Enjoy the ride :)

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Feb 19, 2003

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WanderingKid posted:

I'm loving all these new folks coming into this thread and saying that Season 1 owns. If you are this excited right now then you will positively poo poo yourself at the awesomeness that is season 5. The Shield really doesn't hit its stride until Season 3 and after that its one long climb up epic mountain of kickassery.

:smugdog:

I loved S1 and half of S2, but I think the show starts its rise into the upper echelon when Armadillo gets his face burnt

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Feb 19, 2003

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SAKU loving KOIVU posted:

I know we're no spoilers so:

When they showed that scene over and over and over in the previously-ons, it went from from disturbing to hilarious for me. It totally ruined any emotional weight that was supposed to be taking on Aceveda because all I could do was snicker everytime it was brought up.

And his wife... when Aceveda is crying and telling her all he could think about was getting home to his see his family one more time and she just scowled at him :laffo: what a charicature she was.

I really think the writers were trying to play that as a serious traumatic event but completely hosed it up.


Yeah, the next time I do a watch through, I'm skipping the "Previously on..." segments because of that, as well as WE KILLED... A COP-PUH and the event at the end of season 5 replayed OVER AND OVER AGAIN.

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Feb 19, 2003

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Drewsky posted:

Just started S4. The New captain situation and the Strike Team being split up are kind of hard to get used to. Dying to see where it's going though.

It's going to be tough to watch Anthony Anderson in any comedy after you finish S4.

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Feb 19, 2003

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And after the way S3 ended, I'm kinda shocked some people expected the team to stay together at the start of S4.

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fuf posted:

It's interesting how people take that final scene differently. It's been a while since I saw it but I always thought that final look was pretty much the opposite. He's at his little desk contemplating what his future holds, but then hears a police siren and looks up out of the window, like he's suddenly reminded of the rest of the world and what he has done. I think the fact that he then walks out purposively means that he's made some kind of decision to do something. In my fantasy he reverts to the one thing which underpins his fragile system of "Mackey moral values", which is loyalty to family and friends, and busts Ronnie out of jail.

That's why it's the best finale... there's so many different things that happen before he walks out the door that really any of these ideas are possible. I always thought his walking/look is that of self-anger and that he's going to his nothing home and do nothing but eat and sleep and get ready for his next day at his nothing job, myself

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Drewsky posted:

Just finished the S4 episode Tar Baby... Whelp, S4 just hit its stride.

This show is badass.

Edit: I just want to see if I'm getting the same thing out of Shane's arc in S4 that everyone else did. In a way I'm seeing it as Shane trying to go on his own and become like Mackey, almost following the "little brother" line from S3. Only thing is he sucks at it, and is doing way more harm than good, not that Mackey is a saint doing his thing. I mean Shane is really loving things up, he just got a very young girl killed. Of course I'm only about half way through this season, but that's what it seems like is being implied so far.

Ah yes... I can never remember what happens in certain episodes with just the episode title, but yeah, that one is intense. Anthony Anderson is just a bad, bad man And yeah, I gathered the same thing with S4 Shane.

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Feb 19, 2003

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heyhellowhatsnew posted:

Okay I just watched the first episode and I like it, but I am supposed to view Vic as the bad guy of the show, right? He is the antagonist? I just wanted to make sure I wasn't going crazy.

This is a great show however!

Mackey toes the line of doing things for the greater good and being completely selfish. The poo poo he gets himself and pretty much everyone he cares about into in the latter seasons is completely avoidable and based on the poo poo he already caused.

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Rupert Buttermilk posted:

I may be mistaken, but I read somewhere that after one of the early season 1 episodes with Vic and the child prostitution ring, Michael Chiklis was so infuriated with the subject matter (real rage on-screen!) that he stated that if they ever use the theme of children being used for sex again like this, he'd quit.

That's weird since that episode at the start of Season 2 (WITH KRISTEN BELL :haw: ) with the butterfly tattoo's was essentially implying child rape. PLUS the episode with Wymms and the chick from the Decoy Squad who went undercover with that underage porn director guy.

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niethan posted:

2.) It was related to Armadillo (mexican, burning dudes, consolidating gangs)

Yeah, I do remember that was Armadillo's "in" to the Strike Team... but the dove was tattoo'd on the face of children they assaulted/raped, right? Because the family of that little girl flipped the gently caress out when they saw she had it.

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Feb 19, 2003

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FearOfABlackKnob posted:

Goddamn I just got finished watching the season finale of the second season.

Goddamn... I loving love this show. Look at all that loving money

There was so much awesome packed into that last montage. I still watch it once in a while.

TUS
Feb 19, 2003

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I would place Kavanaugh Chaotic Neutral or Lawfully Evil. He started off as Lawfully Neutral but he dropped pretty quickly, at least in my eyes.

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FearOfABlackKnob posted:

I'm not sure how I feel about the direction Season 4 is taking. There is no Strike Team... Vic is sort of wandering around. I've only seen the first episode but I really hope poo poo will start to happen.

It's pretty safe to say that they tie up pretty much -------------everything----------- by the end of the series.

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Conquieftador posted:

I have binged through the first 5 seasons and DAAAAAAAAMN, this show is excellent. And season 5 was a roller coaster of sadness and hilarity. So tell me are the last 2 seasons nearly as well done as 5?

It never slows down. The series finale may be one of the best ones out there since it ties up everything and doesn't force feed the ending to you.

I mean the end of S5 with Mackey, Ronnie and Shane walking away and Mackey saying "We're going to find who did this to Lem... and we're gonna kill them" with Shane's look is too perfect.

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