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Policenaut posted:I think the melee combat is definitely far from button mashing. There's a lot that goes into proper timing, movement, and positioning that makes combat a lot more rewarding, there are still times when things die to mashing R1 (like the enemies in the first stage) but as you get further in you'll start having to form strategies. It's pretty sweet, having to come up with methods to fight each enemy. I'm playing a Magician and don't have any of the big nukes yet, so I still do my fair share of sword/shield use (there's no 2 handed staves for magic users, so you'll always have a hand free for a shield if you want when you've got your casting catalyst/talisman equipped). Note that you can start casting a spell while moving, but when the spell actually goes off your character stops moving for a second or two, so you have to be careful about choosing when to shoot and when to keep moving. The Fire Spray spell is unique, though - it fires a cheap blob of fire every half a second or so you're holding down the button, and while each doesn't do much damage, you can keep moving as it's casting, so it's extremely handy against enemies that you absolutely can't stop moving around. It's a good balancing act between knowing what enemies you are safe to engage and which ones are dangerous enough to justify spending MP on - between the MP regen rings, swords, and the fact that you can cheaply buy Spices later on for MP restores it's much less of a rationing act than early on, where you're going to be a melee character with a few powerful ranged shots as backup. As has been said, though, the starting "classes" are simply initial sets of stats/equipment/magic, so find one that sorta fits your intended playstyle and then develop from there. If you wanted to start one of the heavy melee classes for strong armor and then put a bunch of soul levels into magic to become a nuker, go ahead!
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Sunday Punch posted:How different are miracles to magic? Does it perform more of a support role, with things like evacuation and resurrect, with magic being more about doing damage, or are they pretty interchangeable? I guess I'm asking does a magic/miracle user specialise in one path or is it advantageous/economical to use both? Magic is mainly offense with a side of utility spells, so someone specializing in magic can do a significant portion of their damage via spellcasting. Miracles are mostly defense + utility. I think they get one very high level miracle attack but you're going to be using miracles to supplement your physical offense through the game. That said, 10 faith is all you need to be able to equip 1 miracle, and there's some very good choices (Evacuation for 20K lets you warp back to the Nexus with all your souls at any point, Heal, etc), so pretty much anyone can justify a little faith for that.
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In case anyone was wondering, it's possible to take out the Red Dragon in 1-2 with magic as well as the usual "Fire hundreds of arrows at it" method. Stock up on spices, climb the first tower in the stage, and stand in front of the middle of the three sniper holes facing the direction the dragon strafes from. Equip a regular projectile spell (I used Soul Light, but if you don't have it or want to save MP and don't mind the process taking longer, Soul Arrow would probably work fine too) and any magic attack boosters you have. When the dragon strafes the wall he basically flies almost straight at you. When he's nearing the end of his path, fire your magic at him (you don't have to lock on, and in fact the timing is a lot tighter if you try to lock and fire). If you've aimed and timed it right he'll fly right into your spell and take full damage (I was hitting for about 120 damage a Soul Light). If you want to make sure you're hitting him, lock on after you've fired and you can watch to see if the damage appears over his life bar. Fire your spells, use spices as needed, and he'll go down pretty fast. On an unrelated note, while Moving Soul Arrow is a tricky spell to use properly, it's a lot of fun to play with and potentially really strong. Was hitting the 1-3 boss with all five arrows and knocking 650 HP off him a cast.
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Nuitari posted:So what's the standard non-heavy weapon(s) people are using? I'm using a Crescent Kilij +4 as my weapon (it's stronger than the Crescent Falchion, assuming you've got the 14 strength to wield it) and switching my offhand between the Adjudicator Shield +2 and Large Sword of Searching depending on my needs. As for Moving Soul Arrow, it's not the kind of spell you can just use full time, both due to the trickiness factor of the arrows fizzling out if they hit something and the MP cost, but it's very good as burst damage on dangerous enemies. I like to use it on red/phantom enemies (if you've got Hide up you can get into arrow range before they really spot you, and if they're not prepared to block the hits it does huge damage to them very fast) and it worked amazingly well on the 1-3 boss. It's like Fire Spray in that it lends itself very well to keeping yourself moving out of danger while being able to do magical damage as openings arise - with Fire Spray you're basically locking on and strafing backwards/sideways to avoid attacks. With Moving Soul Arrow you put a bit of distance between yourself and the target, cast it, then when you've got an opening you quickly lock on and dash into range and they'll take the full blow.
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Just in case you were wondering, when Mephistopheles has you assassinate people in the Nexus, they stay dead. If you're going to miss someone's services, don't take 'em out.
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McCoy Pauley posted:He shows up when your character tendency is 100% black, right? What's the best way to do this -- invade people as a black phantom? Yeah, that's what I did - just killed people in 4-2 a few times until I was black, then he's on the second level of the Nexus (he's pretty apparent). He seems to have some relation to Yurt, though it may just be coincidental. I looked on the second floor, didn't see him, but did run into Yurt who was talking about how life wasn't precious. I attacked/killed Yurt, he mentioned that Mephistopheles was right about me, then the next time I entered the Nexus Meph was there. I'm uncertain if killing Yurt is any sort of trigger.
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I hadn't realized that the Talisman of Beasts not only requires 18 will, but 18 faith to use. I only had 10 faith.  Handy little item, though, even if the only miracle I have equipped and can equip this game is Evacuation (thanks to killing Urbain and company).
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Industrial posted:How do I get more L. splinters of shrpstone? The vendor in the giant open bearbug room in 2-2 sells them for 1000 souls each. They're also reasonably common drops off the miners in world 2 and the slimes in 1-2.
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I think the classes are actually pretty balanced in terms of stat and item distribution, which is nice. Sure, starting as the Noble instead of the Magician is nice if you want to go as a caster for the early MP ring, but you're starting 1-1 with a weaker magic stat and an attack spell that isn't as strong versus the enemies you'll be fighting in the first stage (Soul Arrow instead of Flamethrower). Magician has to be more careful about MP use but they've got a stronger attack spell (and one that is extremely strong against Phalanx) and better stats almost entirely across the board due to starting at a higher soul level (plus Water Veil for dealing with those firebombing assholes). Once you finish 1-1 it's mostly a non-issue since then you can go and grab any number of items that'll help round out your chosen class.
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I ignored tendency until I was about 75% complete on my playthrough. I'm now using my stockpile of Ephemeral Eyes (and the odd resurrection from a boss kill or going to invade another player) to do the various Pure Black events (got enough Colorless Souls to get the Adjudicator Shield to +5 - 8 HP restored a second!) I figure there's a decent enough chance that the difficulties with Pure White right now are due to bugs and/or unintended changes from the last patch, so I'll hit those up on New Game+ if they get around to making it more feasible again.
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McCoy Pauley posted:When you upgrade the Adjudicator Shield like that, does the physical defense stat increase from 90 to 100? I'd like to start using the thing to take advantage of the HP regen, but I spend so much time blocking I'm loathe to go back to a shield that's going to let some physical damage through every time I block. Sadly not. The only thing the higher levels of the shield provide are increased HP regen (2 HP at base, then 3, 4, 5, 6, and finally 8 hp/sec). Before you start spending the colorless souls to upgrade it try it out for a bit and see if the damage you take on physical blocks is going to be an issue for you. If not, it's definitely worth pumping it up. 480 HP/minute is basically a full heal for my mage if I'm in soul form with the Cling Ring on. I've got ridiculous amounts of herbs in my stash now (I've maxed out the 99 storage for Late Moon Herbs) thanks to the shield keeping me healed during normal level running and 25 luck + Sword of Searching for massive item drops (1-3 is a goldmine of herbs).
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Where's the Primevil Demon in 3-2? The wiki says it's in the swamp , but that's kind of vague - is it in the marsh itself, chilling on the wooden platforms, is it inside near the crystal gecko and the bridge to the second chain tower, or somewhere else? I died and have to run for a few hours but I'd like to know where to look in particular when I get back - I already did one complete world 3 run looking for the demon and to take out black phantom Rydell before realizing I wasn't fully at pure black.  On the bright side I did get a pure moonlightstone, a pure mercurystone and various chunks of both...
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So I just completed World 5, and either I made some sort of horrible mistake in the process or the game just wants me to think that I did. Sure, World 5 is a poisonous cesspool and full of death and decay, but then I get to Astraea. She seems to want nothing more than to create a sanctuary in the middle of the chaos and she's got a knight perfectly willing to protect her as she does so. She's essentially helpless once I manage to get Vinland out of the way, she falls quickly to three Moving Soul Arrow volleys, and I get the Pureblood Soul. Now there's this really ominous organ song playing in the Nexus. Moreover, Astraea's soul can either get me another cloud spell from Freke, or a healing spell from Yuria (and her witchcraft is supposed to be the dark arts). For all the NPC chatter about how the Demons Souls are a source of evil power and I need to be careful (admittedly from the priests, those pansies), this is the first time the game's actually got me wondering just how heroic I'm being. Good stuff.
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Policenaut posted:Oh, and if you're a sword user than don't bother with those spells. Get yourself the Blueblood Sword stat! The most powerful straight sword in the game, innate hide ability and the only weapon to get an attack boost from luck. Plus it looks bitchin' with the Dark Silver Armor set I got Freke's spell, which means that he's taught me everything he can. Now to kill him for Mephistopheles!  Didn't realize the Blueblood Sword had such good stats, but I'd have to grind out 4 more strength and 6 more dex to wield it, so that can wait for another playthrough anyway. I really did like world 5 in general, even if the lack of being able to dodge caused some close calls when the giant goblins came running. Great atmosphere, and with the Adjudicator +5 and a Regen ring I just didn't even bother curing the swamp poison, I outhealed it regardless.
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Sunday Punch posted:I'm trying to get the items in front of the two dragons in 1-1. Now I assume that I need to lure the red dragon away to the bridge, otherwise he just torches the roost area with fire. Problem is, he doesn't seem to be flying away from his perch when I run around on the bridge. He was happy to toast the bridge the first run through this level, but not now that I'm going back to pick up things I missed the first time. Any ideas on how to lure him away/get those items? Kill it in 1-2 with a bunch of magic or arrows and it'll be gone for good.
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Does Patches drop anything interesting if you assassinate him in the Nexus? I somehow managed to hit him then backstab him, and he disintegrated in mid-air and I couldn't loot him.  I'm trying to decide on a spell load-out to stick with the rest of the game - I'm down to assassinating Yuria, and I don't want to really screw myself by having a gimped spell list for the remainder of my game. Probably Fireball, Hide, Moving Soul Arrow, and Soul Light - it's a shame that Total Protection is 2 magic slots.
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The Raglay posted:I haven't done it, but I'm pretty sure he's part of the assassination quest. Yeah, that's why I killed him. I got the reward from Mephistopheles, but like the other named NPCs in the Nexus you kill he dropped some extra items. I wasn't able to loot those. I don't recall anything dropped off the NPCs to be completely unique so far, so I doubt Patches had something major up his sleeve. Just a curiosity thing.
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The method that the developers provided to be able to complete the 4-3 boss fight if you're a non-archer/mage character is pretty awesome.
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Whorehey posted:No, you pick up the Stormbringer sword on the cliff and swing that big, mighty bastard around. You then proceed to cut down every manta with your magical sword of death. You can also whoop black phantom rear end. Fantastic if you ask me, which you didn't. Yup. I just killed the Storm King with a few quick fireballs, explored the rest of the level, found the Stormbringer, read the description, and figured I'd give it a shot. "Neat looking sword, let's take a quick swing HOLY poo poo SHOCKWAVE AWESOME"  And yeah, 4-3 is great for farming souls. Faster than 4-2 if more dangerous. You'll be farming there a bit anyway if you're trying to max out a Cloudstone Shield though since you need the chunks that the mantas there drop.
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vertiginominal posted:Am I missing something regarding the Dark Silver Shield? I haven't actually gotten it so I don't know if there's a catch, but the wiki says it reduces physical and magical damage by 100. It doesn't seem like there would be any reason to make a Cloudstone shield. Lack of strength, weight of the shield, and you might not have enough Colorless Souls to upgrade it depending on what you're using them for. And yeah, Cloudstone for the trophy.
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Brackhar posted:Dark Silver shield has very low hit res. It will fully block any attack yeah, but it will chew through your stamina quickly. By default the Hit Res on it is pretty poor, but if you fully upgrade it it's got better Hit Res than anything but the Tower Shield or an upgraded Brushwood shield (and both of those require 10+ more strength). I'll probably upgrade the DSS on my next playthrough to go along with my +5 Adjudicator. As a mage I don't really need to do much upgrading with Colorless Souls of the unique weapons. VV Still use it for bosses, I should probably get around to upgrading it. I offhand the Sword of Searching for normal fights. Tortolia fucked around with this message at 21:47 on Apr 1, 2009 |
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I don't know if I glitched up the AI on the 1-4 boss or what, but that was comically simple. I immediately just moved to hug the left wall next to the stairs, the King wandered my way slowly, then turned around and didn't move. I sorta walked into range, let the Death Cloud plague slowly drain him of HP, then got impatient and whacked him with some quick Moving Soul Arrows. He didn't react. If I'd given it 20 minutes the plague alone would have killed him. Note for anyone who wants the Paring Dagger but can't get World 3 to White tendency: you get one if you kill a particular NPC - Mephistopheles in the Nexus. If you complete all the assassination quests Meph will attack you then - I assume if you don't want to kill the others you could just get the Black Character tendency so Meph shows up and just take her out then. The wiki doesn't have that one listed, so if anyone has an account they can toss that up in the item lists. tazman posted:Then whats the best way to farm colourless souls? Or is that the only way? There's no real way to farm the Colorless Souls, so you have to use 'em wisely. You can get ten or so a game. 5 from Primevil Demons (no respawn) - seems like a high drop rate but I made sure to kill them with 25 luck + Sword of Searching so be ready to quit the game for another try if you get stiffed on the drop. 1 in 1-1 on a corpse past the pure white/black gate at the start. 2 from the Crow in 4-1 (trade a Talisman of God and the Gold Mask 2 from Mephistopheles assassinations - Patches and Biorr . Note to get to these two souls you have to have already killed Freke and Urbain , so there are consequences to trying to get these. I think that's all of them unless someone discovers another way to get them. It's probably worth checking what you get for upgrading gear with the souls on the Wiki before you spend them due to their scarcity. At least there's no trophy for a fully upgraded Colorless item!
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Policenaut posted:What should I be doing? I'm about 4 Equip points from being able to equip a Ring of Great Strength and doing Noble-esque rolls. What spells are you trying to use against the other players? If it's not a bigger nuke like Fireball, Moving Soul Arrow, or presumably Firestorm/Rage of God (don't have them) then it's not going to do the burst damage you need. You could also try Death Cloud if you have it to plague them and give them something else to worry about. I've probably got about a 35-40% success rate invading other players, so it's not easy, especially since there's generally lag due to the distances involved. If they aren't smart enough to get the jump on you (by hiding near the Archstone where you spawn) then a giant game of cat and mouse can work to your advantage, since all the pressure is on them - as an invader you have absolutely nothing to lose unless you get real sloppy and fall off a cliff, and they've got to win or they get knocked back to soul form. I'm not sure if it does change your tendency towards black, but if I join a game and the host is co-oping I like to take out the soul form players they've got first - since they have less HP than a living character they can be dropped pretty fast, and you want to even the odds ASAP. I generally try to get close and blast 'em with Moving Soul Arrows, but don't be afraid to retreat and change strategies. Really, though, don't be too frustrated if you have dry spells where you just can't win. Unless you're co-oping yourself there's really no chance you're going to accidentally shift your character tendency back towards white and it doesn't reset between sessions, so a kill here and there and you'll be meeting with Meph sooner than you think.
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It definitely seems like the Wiki underestimates the value of killing bosses while alive for White world tendency. I finished the game up, immediately hopped into New Game + (you start 1-1 alive this way), got invaded by a single black phantom right before Phalanx, killed it, then killed Phalanx. Pure White in world 1 just from those two things. Liked the ending, though I went with what was presumably the good ending. Looking forward to seeing how it plays out differently this game!
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Dantes posted:Ending spoiler C'mon how did you resist the temptation of stabbing the maiden in the back ? My boot walking on her skull to go to the old one was the best part of the game I wanted to learn Soulsucker! Note for those of you looking ahead to your second (or later) playthrough on a character, the fog door after 1-2 is NOT sealed. You can move straight into 1-3 to rescue Yuria if you want (or, in theory I guess you could just haul rear end right through World 1 and end the game extremely prematurely) Once you know how to play the game properly and have an idea of what to expect from enemies, the game actually becomes much simpler, even if things do a lot more damage to you in New Game+. I've done all of 1-1 through 1-3 without dying once, and that includes taking out the Red Dragon, Miralda, and four separate invading black phantoms. I know there's going to be enemies and bosses in the other worlds that are going to have me swearing up a storm when I branch out to them, but it reminds me of a Ninja Gaiden - once you know how to play, it can actually be easier in later games despite the increased difficulty setting. It's for that reason that if you intend on playing through the game more than once I recommend not worrying about Pure White tendencies the first time through - the boost you get for killing bosses while alive is massive now, and once you know what to expect from a boss and how to handle it the odds of you being able to walk out of the chamber with that bonus go way up. Co-op helps too.
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McCoy Pauley posted:So I've got my Dragon Longsword up to +3 and now need more L.Splinters of Dragonstone to upgrade it. 2-2 is the best place to get those, right? Am I correct in thinking that the Large Sword of Searching is going to help me get the drops I want for these? The Large Sword of Searching flat out doubles your character's "item drop" stat (the number that the Luck stat increases), so anything that isn't a guaranteed drop will be affected by having equipped. And yes, you can just toss it in your offhand for the bonus, you don't have to be using it to get the kills.
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Brackhar posted:I've been wondering the same things. I think it might be from killing Mephistopheles, though. Nah, no special souls for Killing Meph - just a paring dagger, epee rapier, and a few random armor pieces (can get another Gold Mask from her).
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Irony.or.Death posted:The one really lasting decision you will make for your character is gender; the game has convinced me that women are superior based on the silver bracelet (increases the number of souls you get for killing stuff, and stacks with everything else that has the same effect), but some might argue that men get prettier clothing. Males get more gender specific armor sets, but it seems to be an all or nothing type of thing - either you get your choice of light cloth magey type armors (Saint and Sage sets) or your choice of heavy platemail sets. Females at least get Miralda's set, which aside from looking really neat is actually a nice compromise between weight and protection. But yeah, the bracelet is pretty much the winner in terms of gender bonuses.
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Policenaut posted:So, uh, about Mephistopheles, is it possible to skip past the currently offered "objective?" If there's a way to skip down the list then I don't know how to trigger it. Here's what I'd do to get the Foe Ring with minimal impact on your game. Leave Meph alone in the Nexus until you've completed everything but 1-4, and complete that as much as possible (kill the Blue Dragon if you're planning on doing that). Set your Miracles/Magic as you want them for the 1-4 boss and for 1-1 on the next cycle (don't really need to set anything special for 1-1 as it's simple, but if you're decent with magic might as well give yourself some sort of fire spell for easy Phalanx roasting). Do the assassinations all in a row, just kill, get reward, kill, get reward. Once Yuria's dead you'll get the Foe Ring, then Meph will attack. She's easily dispatched. Now that you've got the Ring, just hop back into 1-4, finish the level, then you can finish the game. After you complete 1-1 on the next cycle then Freke and Urbain's apprentices will be back in the Nexus and you can change your magic/miracles around as you see fit and just proceed. Note if you wait until you've done 1-3 to start doing Meph's assassinations then you're going to miss out on the Ostrava kill/Talisman of Beasts reward, so you'll have to go take out Black Phantom Scirvir in 2-2 to get one of those.
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dis astranagant posted:Well, looks like I'm using that. Does it have to be in the off hand or does it work as a catalyst? I was getting kinda grumbly because my soul arrows aren't quite one shotting miners and the mana waste was annoying. You need the Kris Knife in the hand that your catalyst/talisman is not in, so you're going to be shieldless when it's equipped. The Kris Knife is nice in that it stacks with the Magical Sharpness ring, so you can toss both on for a major damage upgrade (just be warned that your magic defense is going to drop like a rock when you're doing this). Nick Biped posted:Speaking of 2-1, at one point maybe more than half-way through, there looked like a couple of items on a platform across a bridge. I started going across and, perhaps predictably, it crumbled before I could make it across. Am I screwed now regarding those items? If you leave 2-1 and re-enter that platform will be there again, just start running and be at full speed before you step on the plank and you'll get across. Not sure if suicide differs from enemy death in terms of world tendency alterations, I've just made a habit of letting an enemy take me down when I'm shooting for Pure Black. You'll get the Blackeye Stone the first time you take down a NPC black phantom. This is likely to be either in 2-2 or 3-1, but where you get it doesn't actually matter.
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I don't think the black phantoms scale with you, they're just significantly tougher than the rest of the enemies you'll face in any given level. I'm using so many Fresh Spices these days it's kind of absurd, but fireballs at 20 MP add up real fast. They're dirt cheap anyway. Plus it's fun being able to one-shot most enemies with the Kris Knife +5 and Magic Sharpness ring. I need to go get the Monk's headgear for extra fun - the lack of magic defense isn't going to be a real issue, given most magic one-shots me anyway. If I do play another character down the line (going to go for Platinum with my mage, I'm almost done the second playthrough and the last two should be pretty fast - my new game + has taken about a third of the time the original cycle lasted), I'd be curious about trying a meat shield character - tons of endurance and strength. It'd be fun to walk around using Garl Vinland's gear, once you get the 36 strength to one-hand his bludgeon.
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dis astranagant posted:Is the Firespray spell ever good for anything? I just bought it and I think I'm regretting it a little, as it does maybe 70 damage with the kris and ring of magical sharpness. The firerate's kinda nice, but it doesn't seem to ever break enemy blocks like the other attacks do. It won't break the block because it's a bunch of tiny hits rather than a giant blast. What Firespray is useful for is taking out small/weak enemies cheaply (insects, rats, slow moving yet hard hitting humanoids, etc) and for keeping mobile against an enemy you don't want to stand still against. Aside from PvP purposes, it's also possible to force the enemy AI to do what you want it to. Take the Cthulhu mages in World 3 for example - they've got three spells to cast on you - the sonic waves they unleash if you're very close to them, the paralysis orb they fire if you're at a short-mid range, and the soul arrows they fire from a distance. They're deadly - but if you force them to fire the electricity and you dodge it, their followup action is going to be to try to run up to you and get in range of the sonic waves. As they're chasing you you can simply back up while holding down Firespray and you'll burn them to a crisp before they decide that running after you isn't going to work. I had far more luck with the Black Phantom mages by retreating and using Firespray than any other tactic I had available early on. It's not the greatest spell around, and in a lot of ways it's made obsolete by Moving Soul Arrow once you've got adequate Magic, but it's a decent little spell niche that it fills for 1 magic slot. It's not really a waste anyway, as the other magical option for that soul is Ignite, and honestly I haven't found a use for that one - it's so short range that if I'm going to purposely let things get that close they're going to take a combo from my sword. tl;dr - Firespray is the only spell in the game that you can use at full efficiency without limiting your movements or putting you at risk of getting nailed when stopping to cast. Tortolia fucked around with this message at 21:41 on Apr 6, 2009 |
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Trophy question, in case anyone knows the answer - for the gold trophies (get all magic, all miracles, etc), do they have to be on the same character all at once, or is it simply a total PSN account tally? I think I'm going to roll up a heavy tank build to play around with and if I can use the Old Monk and Maiden souls to get their weapons and have them count towards the running total then it's one less playthrough on my magician to worry about.
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Anyone had luck farming up a Pure Bladestone? I'm sitting on 32 luck and have a sword of searching and I can't get one of the things to drop. Wiki says they drop off 4-2 black phantom skeletons (I'm aware of three at pure black tendency - one dual wield phantom and two of the golden ones, all along the second outer cliff pathway) and the black skeleton in the hidden passage. I'm getting splinters and the odd chunk, but still no Pure drop. I'm assuming it's just bad luck on the random drops, but if anyone can confirm a drop off either I'd appreciate it.
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Unknown_PC posted:I got mine off the BP dual-katana skeleton near the two golden ones. The drop rate is abysmal though, somewhere around 1~3%. I don't mind farming them since I pull about 60-70K souls in three minutes by killing those three skeletons and the reaper, but I just wanted to be sure that there was a chance. Thanks for the confirmation! Also, for the monk's headpiece, when you earn it is it on the ground after you return to your game or do you automatically get it after the kill (if you get the drop)?
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Thievery posted:Hahaha I got this this morning and was going through the tutorial fine, until I get to the boss and he instakills me. Got taken to the nexus and couldn't work out a way to get back to that guy but hey, here's a blue glowy dude that tells me to use a stone so I go through to what i'm assuming is 1-1. I'm doing fine, going through up the stairs until some guy drops an iron ball on me, but i'm still alive. Then I get slaughtered by what i'm guessing is a blue eyed knight. But no big deal, I run all the way back and go the other way, take out a few archers, then get slaughtered by a red eyed thing with a shield and a spear You're not supposed to kill the red-eyed knight right now, so come back to him another time. As you've noticed the blue eyed knights are enough of a challenge for you and you're supposed to fight them! Near where you find the first blue knight is a staircase down the main wall (after you kill the knight, instead of going in the door he was guarding keep going forward to the far door) - you can open a shortcut to make it easier to get back up there, but more importantly you can find the Cling Ring right by the bottom of the stairs, which increases your max HP in soul form to roughly 75% of max. You'll be wearing this often! To get revived you can either kill a boss (either in your game or by going into another person's game to co-op and killing one there), invading another player and killing them as a black phantom, or using a Stone of Ephemeral Eyes - those are uncommon but if you don't waste them you can still wind up with 25+ of them over a playthrough.
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If you like the dagger or spear style of combat and want to favor Dex, then Sunday Punch's suggestion of going the Sharp weapon path is a good one - bladestones are pretty common drops in world 4 and at +3 the dex bonus jumps to A rank. If you're a fan of the curved sword type combat (scimitar, falchion, etc) then the Crescent Falchion is a good choice for the added magical damage - alternately, you can go Sharp or you could go for Tearing, which increases bleed damage and has a huge Dex bonus (S rank at +3). Bladestones are off skeletons in world 4, and you can get Suckerstones (for Tearing) off the slugs in 4-2 and 5-2. Don't hesitate to upgrade some weapons to play around with them - especially using Hardstones and Sharpstones, which are exceedingly common drops and can be purchased from several vendors. Edit: To clarify, Hard and Sharpstones are your generic weapon upgrade stones - at certain points along a weapon upgrade path you can shift them into a different weapon type with different properties, and those use different stones. The "Sharp" weapon type confusingly uses Bladestones to upgrade and NOT Sharpstones. Tortolia fucked around with this message at 18:27 on Apr 7, 2009 |
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Apr 7, 2009 18:24
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Policenaut posted:Well, my issue is that I'm going for Platinum and I'm sort of required to get all the rings/weapons/magics/miracles to do so. It's very amusing, I need 2 weapons, 1 ring, 1 miracle, and 7 magic spells to get all those Gold Trophies. It's just infuriating, they should have balanced Soul rewards better. I agree. Old Monk is used for four things as well. It's a bit much, but at least on that final playthrough you can just do worlds 3 and 5 and be done with it. World Tendency is a neat mechanic but it could definitely use some major refinements. At least pure white (which is the hard one) only rewards you once per world and that's it, whereas pure black (which is easy to get) has the colorless souls each playthrough. As for Astraea's soul and the magic you get from it, I actually found it more interesting that when you get world 5 to pure white and talk to Selen she mentions how despite the filth and decay of the valley, there's a very definite sense of purity to everything.
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Apr 8, 2009 02:50
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Policenaut posted:Dear god, I hate whoever designed the drop rate for Pure Bladestone. I've been at this for two hours, sneaking up behind the BP Dual-Katana Black Skeleton in 4-2 trying to get it and the best I've ever done is a single Chunk of Bladestone. Just about every other Pure can be gotten from a Crystal Gecko, Treasure Drop, or Boss Victory but Bladestone? gently caress you, fight this skeleton for 2 hours. Yeah, it sucks rear end. At least it's worth a ridiculous amount of souls each run. Maneater's a lot easier if you just stick on the central platform and use the brazier to your advantage. I died a ton on my first playthrough because I was trying to strafe around and dodge on the long walkways and kept falling off. Circling the brazier and firing from there then dodging back behind it helps. Then again I was doing that on my second playthrough with Moving Soul Arrow, and three of those killed each Maneater. Still, Soul Light would work fine.
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dis astranagant posted:3-2 is getting annoying. I've broken one of the chains (the one you can reach from the top floor of the heart tower, before the tentacle blocking the path) but can't seem to get anywhere else. All other paths seem to be dead ends and the map isn't helping me much. From the first chain tower there's a side path that leads to some platforms that have hanging cages next to them. Step into any one of the cages.
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