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Xealot posted:They don't. That's definitely what's going on here. Still, if your web video is that dark compared to its DVD version, you're doing something wrong.  EDIT: I think it looks as if the dark image hasn't been gamma corrected at all and is still in a somewhat linear color space. FLX fucked around with this message at Dec 4, 2010 around 21:44 |
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FLX posted:Still, if your web video is that dark compared to its DVD version, you're doing something wrong. Poor color on from the web can also be an issue with the color profile for your monitor. Third party monitors on a Mac have HORRIFIC profiles from the OEM/Apple that are not even in the ball park.
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mayodreams posted:Poor color on from the web can also be an issue with the color profile for your monitor. Third party monitors on a Mac have HORRIFIC profiles from the OEM/Apple that are not even in the ball park. Completely. Different monitors, OS's, and media players can all seriously affect how a particular codec displays. Adjusting the gamma might make it look a little better perceptually, but the point is that the level of compression is very lossy. While the footage may look a little too dark to you, the tradeoff of messing with the gamma is making it even more contrasty than it already is.
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Compression doesn't make video darker or affect color, it only removes details (or adds new wrong details). That's either a processing issue or a playback issue - you could check by using multiple players, but of course you'd have to dump the stream first.
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However, if the Hulu video was compressed directly from the broadcast copy, it could be that it's just a broadcast-safe color gamut. NTSC's color space is smaller than the space on a monitor, and the standard way to deal with that is to run a color filter on the video that compresses the luminance range and reduces the saturation. Leads to video looking darker and less bright when decoded dumbly on a computer monitor. So, of all the ways to not have this happen, none were taken. Lazy encoding.
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Is there a program that can copy all source files mentioned in an EDL to a new location? I've got 5TB of video data, of which less than 1TB is used in the film/EDL. It would be great if I could just copy all the used files into a new folder and delete the unused data from my work drive.
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FLX posted:Is there a program that can copy all source files mentioned in an EDL to a new location? I've got 5TB of video data, of which less than 1TB is used in the film/EDL. It would be great if I could just copy all the used files into a new folder and delete the unused data from my work drive. Unless I don't understand what you want to do, you're just talking about media management. Both Avid and FCP have that as a baked in tool with a bunch of options. The feature gathers all the files you've used in a sequence, trims them or keeps them their full size, then copies them into a folder.
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Walnut Crunch posted:The feature gathers all the files you've used in a sequence, trims them or keeps them their full size, then copies them into a folder. Yes, pretty much this. The film was edited on Avid with Red proxy Quicktimes. I need all the corresponding Red Raw R3D files though. FLX fucked around with this message at Dec 9, 2010 around 16:13 |
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FLX posted:Is there a program that can copy all source files mentioned in an EDL to a new location? I've got 5TB of video data, of which less than 1TB is used in the film/EDL. It would be great if I could just copy all the used files into a new folder and delete the unused data from my work drive. We just got some RED cameras and I'm researching workflow, and I found this: http://www.rubbermonkeysoftware.com/ Which seems to do exactly what you want.
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mayodreams posted:We just got some RED cameras and I'm researching workflow, and I found this: Thanks. I just downloaded the demo and checked it out. The full version really does exactly what I need. It's a little too expensive though for this one-time use, especially since I just need to "batch copy" files and not do anything else with it :-/
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FLX posted:Thanks. I just downloaded the demo and checked it out. The full version really does exactly what I need. It's a little too expensive though for this one-time use, especially since I just need to "batch copy" files and not do anything else with it :-/ Holy crap I didn't see how expensive it is. This is the one that works for Avid explicitly, and is significantly cheaper. http://avocoda.com/cinexml/
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mayodreams posted:Holy crap I didn't see how expensive it is. This is the one that works for Avid explicitly, and is significantly cheaper. Thanks. I'll check this out too. I'm wondering if there isn't a script or something for searching & moving files from a list. This seems like a quick thing to program
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We had to recently do the whole tracing of proxie files back to RED originals, and just ended up doing it manually... glad to see there is software out there which will do the work though if it's a bigger project.
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You can also export an XML from FCP and use RedCineX to conform using the original media. We have a Red Rocket (which I refer to only as 'the rocket' because its a STUPID name) so transcoding to prores and conforming (haven't tested yet) should be significantly improved.
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I'm not sure if this is the correct thread to ask this but is there a way to convert a batch of m2ts videos to a lighter codec and resize and crop them in one go as a batch operation? I know Mediacoder can do this but it hates m2ts files (the resulting transcoded files always have audio/video desync), I've basically given up on it now. It looks like MeGUI should be able to pull this off but it looks a bit convoluted and intimidating. My current workflow involves batch converting the files with FormatFactory which is the only freeware transcoder I've come across that doesn't choke on m2ts files and resizing and cropping the files using Virtualdub's batch wizard afterwards which is a bit too tedious for my liking. So yeah, I never thought converting HD video to SD for web use would be such a pain in the rear end. fixelbrumpf fucked around with this message at Dec 9, 2010 around 21:45 |
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fixelbrumpf posted:I'm not sure if this is the correct thread to ask this but is there a way to convert a batch of m2ts videos to a lighter codec and resize and crop them in one go as a batch operation? I know Mediacoder can do this but it hates m2ts files (the resulting transcoded files always have audio/video desync), I've basically given up on it now. It looks like MeGUI should be able to pull this off but it looks a bit convoluted and intimidating. I think handbrake can do that.
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pwn posted:My friend thought it was a well-known QT bug, but 30 Rock is shot on film. Being shot on film wouldn't matter. He's referring to known gamma problems with QT. All though gamma and color space issues are common in just about any workflow.
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To save this thread from the archives, I'll add that we now have two RED One's and a RED ROCKET in house that we are going to start letting the students use. So if you guys are curious about the camera and/or workflow, ask away.
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mayodreams posted:To save this thread from the archives, I'll add that we now have two RED One's and a RED ROCKET in house that we are going to start letting the students use. So if you guys are curious about the camera and/or workflow, ask away. Here's a problem we've encountered. We have a Red One and shoot mostly in 2:1. What's the best way to put 2:1 footage on a DVD? You get stacked letterboxing on 4:3 TVs and the letterboxes often slightly clash in colors. We've mostly fixed this by making sure our RGB levels for our Letterbox are set to 0,0,0 (or sometimes 16,16,16), but this naturally isn't terribly universal. Is there a better option for burning 2:1 footage to DVD for view on 4:3 TVs without cropping the footage artificially?
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BonoMan posted:Here's a problem we've encountered. We have a Red One and shoot mostly in 2:1. What's the best way to put 2:1 footage on a DVD? You get stacked letterboxing on 4:3 TVs and the letterboxes often slightly clash in colors. We've mostly fixed this by making sure our RGB levels for our Letterbox are set to 0,0,0 (or sometimes 16,16,16), but this naturally isn't terribly universal. Is there a better option for burning 2:1 footage to DVD for view on 4:3 TVs without cropping the footage artificially? We haven't gotten that far yet. We still don't even have a view finder or monitor from RED yet, but we are still working through things. We are mostly using Adobe Encore to finish on BD at 1080p, so DVD is not the primary finishing method. Sorry I am not more help. Hopefully this will spur discussion though.
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mayodreams posted:We haven't gotten that far yet. We still don't even have a view finder or monitor from RED yet, but we are still working through things. We are mostly using Adobe Encore to finish on BD at 1080p, so DVD is not the primary finishing method. Sorry I am not more help. Hopefully this will spur discussion though. Yeah it's really an oddly specific problem. We don't usually finish to 4:3, but our DP is doing a certain project that requires it. Odd. Oh well.
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Are there any Avid editors out there? I've been using FCP for pretty much 10 years (school + professional work), but as I start looking for more higher end work I'm noticing a lot more jobs requiring Avid. I'm looking at some refurb HP xw8400's, they can be had for $500 and should work with Media Composer 5 (it's hard for me to tell, because the PDF chart on the Avid website is laid out pretty poorly). I think the only thing I would need to add to the system would be a Quadro, and maaaaaybe upgrade from 4gb to 8gb of ram. I don't need a high performance system, just one that can let me learn the ropes and hopefully one that won't require a ton of rendering of DNxHD footage.
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1st AD posted:Are there any Avid editors out there? I've been using FCP for pretty much 10 years (school + professional work), but as I start looking for more higher end work I'm noticing a lot more jobs requiring Avid. I'm looking at some refurb HP xw8400's, they can be had for $500 and should work with Media Composer 5 (it's hard for me to tell, because the PDF chart on the Avid website is laid out pretty poorly). I think the only thing I would need to add to the system would be a Quadro, and maaaaaybe upgrade from 4gb to 8gb of ram. I used to be an Avid ACSR (we let it lapse because we moved to FCP only). The Mac version of MC5 ran well on my 2.4GHz Unibody MacBook with 4gb of ram. There is a 30 day trial version of MC5 you can play with as well. For windows, the specs are pretty light, but you need a Quadro 560 or greater it seems. Make sure you get a 64 bit version of windows if you getting 4gb of ram or more. MC5 Soft Requirements
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I've never run MC with a Quadro card, never had much of a problem with it. I went from FCP to Avid in '04 and it made me a better editor. Embrace the keyboard and get ready to think long and hard about your edits before you make them. A few months later I was much faster in both editors.
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I'm completely new when it comes to video editing, but I'd like to try my hand at it. I do some work for a wrestling company and I'd like to be able to combine clips of their matches from DVDs with music, just basic level stuff. Does anyone have any advice on what program I should be looking at to use, and someplace to find lessons? I have a lot of experience with Photoshop and Illustrator. Not that that will transfer into this, but at least I'm not coming in with just a basic knowledge of Excel.
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I might get flamed off the board for this but if you have Win7 Live Movie Maker actually works pretty well for basic stuff.
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Actually I should have clarified, I'm on a Mac. Maybe I should just start off with by messing around with iMovie?
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Can't hurt. If all you need is some simple cutting and stuff you can't go wrong.
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triplexpac posted:Actually I should have clarified, I'm on a Mac. Maybe I should just start off with by messing around with iMovie? If you want a first leap into the rabbit hole that is Adobe post-production software, Premiere Elements is fairly inexpensive. It's to Premiere Pro as Photoshop Elements is to Photoshop CS: slightly cut-down feature-wise but essentially the same core, plus an interface organized around helping with tasks rather than giving you direct control. So a step up from iMovie, if you find that limiting.
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Detroit Q. Spider posted:I might get flamed off the board for this but if you have Win7 Live Movie Maker actually works pretty well for basic stuff. No, its pretty good, and you can't beat the price. As for iMovie, I don't know. I am fairly proficient at FCP, and iMovie, especially the new one, pisses me the hell off. I just can't use it because I want the typical NLE interface and iMovie tries to abstract that as much as possible.
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triplexpac posted:Actually I should have clarified, I'm on a Mac. Maybe I should just start off with by messing around with iMovie? iMovie is great. A lot of people like the older "iMovie HD" version.
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mayodreams posted:No, its pretty good, and you can't beat the price. I'm with you, sort of. That was really bizarre. Apple took the best balance of power and ease of use of any software ever written (original iMovie) and turned it into a rather confusing mess.
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EVERYTHING I SAY ABOUT JAPAN OR LIVING IN JAPAN IS COMPLETELY WRONG, BUT YOU BETTER BELIEVE I'LL 
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MacRumors is live blogging the Final Cut X announcement right now! http://www.macrumors.com/2011/04/12...rmeet-coverage/
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Wow, $299? I was not expecting such a dramatic price drop. Cant wait to hear people complain about the 'imovie-ization' of Final Cut though.
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frogbs posted:Wow, $299? I was not expecting such a dramatic price drop. Cant wait to hear people complain about the 'imovie-ization' of Final Cut though. $300 for just Final Cut Pro X on the App Store. Makes me wonder if this will be like iLife where they are broken out on the App Store, but you can buy the "Studio" package as a whole for cheaper. There was no mention of DVD Studio Pro, Motion, LiveType, etc. I wonder if this means we can pay once and download on up to 5 computers with no hassle then? If so, that probably defeats any cost saving benefits that a small business would have of buying the entire studio. But I digress... we know nothing of the other software at this point. Immediately on Facebook one of the people I went to college with for broadcasting posted this "New version of Final Cut Pro just announced. FCPX "ten" (what happened to 8 and 9?). Looks like iMovie Pro. Visually, too much candy coating for me. All this drat Apps bullshit needs to go. Don't make my life "easier", don't make my editing "faster"... you're just encouraging people to get lazy and irresponsible. #Thiswasnotthedroidiwaslookingfor #Yourfinalcutskillsarenowuseless #iMovieisforidiotsnoteditors"
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"Don't make my editing faster"????? I really hope that dude can keep suffering for his art.
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Astro7x posted:#iMovieisforidiotsnoteditors" I'm holding out until I see an actual video of the interface. I'm encouraged at least that Apple didnt decide to discontinue Final Cut, I just hope that it resembles iMovie in interface 'gloss' only, and that functionally is still behaves like a traditional NLE. That being said, i'm all for it making my life faster, please no more rendering every single file that isnt native quicktime, please render stuff in the backgroun, etc. I work at a small Final Cut Shop (8 or so machines) and background rendering alone will save everyone a ton of time. It will also be interesting to see if they impose any licensing restrictions.
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I kind of feel the same. There really isn't much to go on one way or another about the new final cut. So little was shown that I have no idea how it would fit into our production workflow. No real idea what it feels like to edit on it. No idea how it will work with Final Cut Server. Does compressor still exist? All these things are major questions.
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In a cross post from the Mac Software thread: While it seems impressive, I am not holding my breath. I am still extremely skeptical that Apple can make this dramatic of a rewrite and have it be polished and bug free enough for professional deployment. Also, there was NO mention of any of the other apps, so I am assuming its only FCP that is $300 now, which I think is the old FC Express price point. And lets be honest, the rest of the apps are in DESPERATE need of an update too. Compressor and DVD Studio Pro, I'm looking at you.
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This may not be the place to ask this, but maybe it is. I am trying to do some VERY basic video editing. I just want to splice some clips together, and then do audio over it. I know windows movie maker sucks, but I was able to do all of those things. However, as you know, their output sucks. The videos are mostly text, as they are on how to use some specific software, and the original captures I have are fine, but I can't find a good program to give me the output I need. I have tried pinnacle vidospin, but a lot of the codecs are de-activated in the free version, and for some reason it won't let me buy the paid version. The video format has to be something that can be viewed without installing additional codecs, because I don't wish to install them on 750 computers. What format should I use, and what program will let me do the edits I want and output to that format? I would prefer the program be free, but if something has to be purchased, then that's cool too, although cost is an issue, since I am only going to do a few of these videos. If this isn't the right thread for this question, I will ask it elsewhere.
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