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McNerd
Aug 28, 2007


Gaz-L posted:

It's a rivalry, more than a truly adversarial relationship. Neither side can afford for the other to die, and they don't really want that anyway. Someone like McNulty needs to have that measuring stick there to show the world just how smart he is. And an Avon or Stringer needs a good cop on them to stop them getting sloppy.
I agree with your "more than," but not with nbv4's "completely." The mutual respect and all the things you name are there, and they're what make the show excellent and unique, but they don't exist in a vacuum. It would be simply unrealistic if Stringer weren't a little bitter about his friends' being locked up. And if I had to name one thing that sets McNulty apart from the rest of the cast, it would be his taking business too personally (for various reasons).


Professor Funk posted:

I haven't really read this entire thread, so forgive me if this debate has been had, but is it really a stretch to say that this might be the greatest TV series of all time?
The debate hasn't really been had, because I for one haven't met anyone who properly watched the show and disagreed. Never, for instance, seen it on a "top 5 greatest TV shows" list where it wasn't #1.

Maybe that's not everyone's experience.

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nwin
Feb 25, 2002
How much longer do I have?

Oh man, season 5 spoiler here (I still have 3-4 episodes left)

The FBI is loving GENIUS when they do the character profile and it matches McNulty to a tee. I can't believe Kima wasn't sitting there like 'Holy poo poo...is McNulty up to something here. But then of course she does find out the case and says she doesn't want anything to do with it

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Anybody remotely interesting is mad in some way or another.



I always got the feeling that while McNulty poured absolutely everything into his desire to "get" Stringer, Stringer's "nicely done" line is just a brief moment of acknowledgment appropriate to the time, and then he just pretty much forgets that McNulty exists until whenever he happens to encounter him again.

And yes, that scene with the FBI in season 5 is absolutely hilarious.

Professor Funk
Aug 4, 2008

~NOW THAT'S FUCKING JETS FOOTBALL~



I just started watching Season 3 and would just like to say that the part at the beginning of the Episode (before the credits), where Bodie is ragging on Poot is probably one of the funniest things ever. He says "Nigga should they just put up a sign that says 'Here is where Malik Carr first got his dick wet?'". Had me rolling.

I really like Bodie, but he's also kind of the most depressing character on the show to me, other than maybe Bubbles, because of how utterly invested he is in "the game." Maybe something changes with him, though, since I'm only at the beginning of the third season, but his killing of Wallace pretty much makes him unredeemable.

Professor Funk fucked around with this message at Jun 29, 2009 around 23:43

Omne
Jul 12, 2003

Orangedude Forever

Professor Funk posted:

I just started watching Season 3 and would just like to say that the part at the beginning of the Episode (before the credits), where Bodie is ragging on Poot is probably one of the funniest things ever. He says "Nigga should they just put up a sign that says 'Here is where Malik Carr first got his dick wet?'". Had me rolling.

I really like Bodie, but he's also kind of the most depressing character on the show to me, other than maybe Bubbles, because of how utterly invested he is in "the game." Maybe something changes with him, though, since I'm only at the beginning of the first season, but his killing of Wallace pretty much makes him unredeemable.

Just wait for season four, my friend.

Gaz-L
Jan 28, 2009


Omne posted:

Just wait for season four, my friend.

Oh god yes. There's like 4 scenes over the season and they totally make you do a 180.

User-Friendly
Apr 27, 2008

Is There a God? (Pt. 9)


Bodie was one of my favorite characters and one of the few I missed watching after the series was over. Something about him was so endearing, and his acting skills really ended up quite impressive. Too bad he isn't in more gigs now that the show is done.

doctor thodt
Apr 2, 2004



When The Wire began, I thought to myself: 'there's no way I'll ever be able to think of this kid as anyone other than Kenny Wangler.'

Now that The Wire is over, there's no way I'll be able to think of him as anyone other than Bodie.

WebDog
Jun 14, 2006


Seeing we're in so far, I'll note my favourite scene with Omar had to be him shopping for cereal.

atlas of bugs
Aug 18, 2003

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WebDog posted:

Seeing we're in so far, I'll note my favourite scene with Omar had to be him shopping for cereal.

F YOU

edit: Oh, actually he was shopping for smokes the time I'm thinking about

Darko
Dec 23, 2004

Distrusting me was the wisest thing you've done.

doctor thodt posted:

When The Wire began, I thought to myself: 'there's no way I'll ever be able to think of this kid as anyone other than Kenny Wangler.'

Now that The Wire is over, there's no way I'll be able to think of him as anyone other than Bodie.

Watch Pootie Tang and then you can think of him as Dirty Dee's (Norman, Carcetti's aide), sidekick.

doctor thodt
Apr 2, 2004



Darko posted:

Watch Pootie Tang and then you can think of him as Dirty Dee's (Norman, Carcetti's aide), sidekick.

Totally forgot about that. I wonder whether Louis CK was a fan of Oz.

duffbeer
Apr 13, 2004

Warm and really fuzzy this time.

I found this pretty interesting: The "real life" Omar Little.

http://vice.typepad.com/vice_magazi...mar-little.html

AtraMorS
Feb 29, 2004

If at the end of a war story you feel that some tiny bit of rectitude has been salvaged from the larger waste, you have been made the victim of a very old and terrible lie

Professor Funk posted:

I just started watching Season 3 and would just like to say that the part at the beginning of the Episode (before the credits), where Bodie is ragging on Poot is probably one of the funniest things ever. He says "Nigga should they just put up a sign that says 'Here is where Malik Carr first got his dick wet?'". Had me rolling.

I really like Bodie, but he's also kind of the most depressing character on the show to me, other than maybe Bubbles, because of how utterly invested he is in "the game." Maybe something changes with him, though, since I'm only at the beginning of the third season, but his killing of Wallace pretty much makes him unredeemable.
I read one description in a "top 10 reasons to watch The Wire" or something like that, and it had Bodie pretty far up there, saying watching the show was like "watching Bodie grow up," which was dead on. He's frustrating and depressing, but he does grow, and just like with people, you don't really notice it happening until it's already done.

For a borderline secondary character, he's really, really well-drawn.

Terry Glenn
Jan 18, 2005

How many shots do you think I should take?

Bodie's one of my favorite characters in the entire series. I always thought he should've gotten a little more screen time. The scene (minor season 4 finale spoiler) with McNulty and Bodie giving his little speech with "I feel old. I've been out there since I was 13." is one of my favorite depressing moments of television.

CaptainHollywood
Feb 29, 2008


I am an awesome guy and I love to make out during shitty Hollywood horror movies. I am a trendwhore!


My friend is almost finished Season 3 (which I lent) and no whenever I see him we "quote" the series.

Me: "Hey do you think we have enough time to make it to the bar?"*
Him: "Mos' def."
Me: "No doubt no doubt."
Him: "Sheeeeeeeeit."

*this line can be anything

Kinger
Sep 30, 2003

I'm sick of my head doing things.


WebDog posted:

Seeing we're in so far, I'll note my favourite scene with Omar had to be him shopping for cereal.

You ain't got no honey nut?

DarkCrawler
Apr 6, 2009

Man you spin around on the roof of a building couple of times and people going to think that some other news company is trying to ape Daily Planet


CaptainHollywood posted:

My friend is almost finished Season 3 (which I lent) and no whenever I see him we "quote" the series.

Me: "Hey do you think we have enough time to make it to the bar?"*
Him: "Mos' def."
Me: "No doubt no doubt."
Him: "Sheeeeeeeeit."

*this line can be anything



Re-watching the show. I never realized how much stuff from the first episode alone comes back in the later episodes or seasons. For example, I somehow completely missed that Stringer Bell was in the courtroom in Ep. 1...just went past me, but the whole rivalry between him and McNulty starts from there.

DarkCrawler fucked around with this message at Jun 30, 2009 around 19:11

SlipkPIe
Dec 22, 2008


DarkCrawler posted:


Re-watching the show. I never realized how much stuff from the first episode alone comes back in the later episodes or seasons. For example, I somehow completely missed that Stringer Bell was in the courtroom in Ep. 1...just went past me, but the whole rivalry between him and McNulty starts from there.

But...that's the basis for the whole season. The detail gets started because McNulty sees Stringer there, intimidating the witness

McNerd
Aug 28, 2007


Kinger posted:

You ain't got no honey nut?

I don't remember this, but if it beats the courtroom scene it must be glorious.

DarkCrawler posted:

That's just..wow.

quote:

But...that's the basis for the whole season. The detail gets started because McNulty sees Stringer there, intimidating the witness

Yeah but surely nobody can keep up with all the characters at first. I wish I had a tape recorder from when I introduced my roommate to this show. "OK you need to remember that guy. That guy too. And haha oh poo poo it's that guy."

McNerd fucked around with this message at Jun 30, 2009 around 21:41

doctor thodt
Apr 2, 2004



DarkCrawler posted:



Nice. I encourage all dedicated fans to purchase this t-shirt. I just did.

http://store.muledesign.com/shirts/...-clay-davis.php

Professor Funk
Aug 4, 2008

~NOW THAT'S FUCKING JETS FOOTBALL~



I'm only in Episode 3 of Season 3, and I'd like to say, one thing that I love about the beginning of every season is how confused you feel. In other TV shows, they're very careful to lay everything out so you understand everything, so even when an environment shifts the viewer isn't really confused. In The Wire, it seems like it's supposed to take the viewer 3-4 episodes to really begin to understand what's going on, because hey, that's how long it's taking the cops (and the dealers) too; they're confused as you are.

Dunno if anyone else felt like that.

Also, Major Taylor just got relieved.

Also I'm beginning to incorporate the phrase "oh, indeed" more and more into regular conversation.

Professor Funk fucked around with this message at Jun 30, 2009 around 22:57

CaptainHollywood
Feb 29, 2008


I am an awesome guy and I love to make out during shitty Hollywood horror movies. I am a trendwhore!


Professor Funk posted:

I'm only in Episode 3 of Season 3, and I'd like to say, one thing that I love about the beginning of every season is how confused you feel. In other TV shows, they're very careful to lay everything out so you understand everything, so even when an environment shifts the viewer isn't really confused. In The Wire, it seems like it's supposed to take the viewer 3-4 episodes to really begin to understand what's going on, because hey, that's how long it's taking the cops (and the dealers) too; they're confused as you are.

Dunno if anyone else felt like that.

Also, Major Taylor just got relieved.

Also I'm beginning to incorporate the phrase "oh, indeed" more and more into regular conversation.

I felt the same way about each season except for five.

DarkCrawler
Apr 6, 2009

Man you spin around on the roof of a building couple of times and people going to think that some other news company is trying to ape Daily Planet


SlipkPIe posted:

But...that's the basis for the whole season. The detail gets started because McNulty sees Stringer there, intimidating the witness

Well, my confusion might have an explanation - first time, I watched it without subtitles.

I'm Finnish.

Toast Museum
Dec 3, 2005

30% Iron Chef


DarkCrawler posted:

Well, my confusion might have an explanation - first time, I watched it without subtitles.

I'm Finnish.

Did you watch the later seasons without subtitles too? How much of Snoop's dialogue could you follow?

Gaz-L
Jan 28, 2009


Toast Museum posted:

Did you watch the later seasons without subtitles too? How much of Snoop's dialogue could you follow?

Hell, it took me about half of season 4 to get to the point where I can catch 90% of her dialogue without subs, and I'm a native English speaker. (And I'm not totally convinced that she didn't tone down her accent and enunciate more as the show progressed, so I can't even feel good about getting adjusted to it.)

DarkCrawler
Apr 6, 2009

Man you spin around on the roof of a building couple of times and people going to think that some other news company is trying to ape Daily Planet


Toast Museum posted:

Did you watch the later seasons without subtitles too? How much of Snoop's dialogue could you follow?

Ahahahaha, no, I got smarter by ep. 3 of first season or something. She defenitely has the thickest accent out of everybody.

I do watch some episodes without subtitles later, I can understand the Eastern Europeans from season 2 perfectly because I'm used to that accent. But Baltimore-speak...goes over my head, like most inner-city/Southern accents in U.S. Don't really hear the difference between Baltimore and say, New York accents either, though someone else might.

Starks
Sep 24, 2006



Gaz-L posted:

(And I'm not totally convinced that she didn't tone down her accent and enunciate more as the show progressed, so I can't even feel good about getting adjusted to it.)

She apparently took speech classes for the part, and you can tell that her accent in season 4 is pretty different from what it was in season 3

DarkCrawler
Apr 6, 2009

Man you spin around on the roof of a building couple of times and people going to think that some other news company is trying to ape Daily Planet


In season 1, ep 7 when they beat up Bird, does anyone else think that's kind of out of character for Lt. Daniels?

doctor thodt
Apr 2, 2004



Nah, I thought it was a great moment for him. Showed us even a stickler like Daniels has his limits.

Gaz-L
Jan 28, 2009


What does bug me is how every single person in that interrogation room or a pair of handcuffs, immediately KNOWS Kima's gay. Not suspects, not guesses, they loving KNOW. HOW?! Seriously!

Gaussian
Sep 20, 2001

I'll give you a box of chocolates if you kill me.






Gaz-L posted:

What does bug me is how every single person in that interrogation room or a pair of handcuffs, immediately KNOWS Kima's gay. Not suspects, not guesses, they loving KNOW. HOW?! Seriously!
They're just trying to flex but with Kima they just happen to be right.

qwertyman
May 2, 2003

Congress gave me $3.1 trillion, which I already spent on extremely dangerous drugs. We had acid, cocaine, and a whole galaxy of uppers, downers, screamers, laughers, and amyls.

Gaz-L posted:

What does bug me is how every single person in that interrogation room or a pair of handcuffs, immediately KNOWS Kima's gay. Not suspects, not guesses, they loving KNOW. HOW?! Seriously!

How many other female cops have you seen on the show?

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Anybody remotely interesting is mad in some way or another.



Gaussian posted:

They're just trying to flex but with Kima they just happen to be right.

Yeah, same with the graffiti about Rawls. It's not secret knowledge revealed subtly, because these guys are NOT subtle, it's just we know something they don't so it feels like it has deeper meaning.

McNulty being the last person in the world to find out about Kima always cracks me up though.

McNulty: Some detective I am!

Sab0921
Aug 2, 2004


DarkCrawler posted:




Can I buy this poster somewhere? I really need this.

DarkCrawler
Apr 6, 2009

Man you spin around on the roof of a building couple of times and people going to think that some other news company is trying to ape Daily Planet


Watching S01E08, the scene where Stringer Bell is at the copy shop telling the dudes not to bring their corner bullshit into there and to the copy orders...he's such a tragic character, trying to whip up all the gang-bangers into an modern ruthless criminal enterprise without the dumb gang poo poo that gets the police on their way. He never succeeds in that.

Marlo does succeed on it later on I guess...though he never tries to change his people like Stringer did, he just whips them up to shape and makes them best on what they do. Like Cheese said, "Semper Fi motherfuckers".

I love all Stringer's business school stuff though, how he uses that on drugs and how he so desperately dies to get it through to the Barksdale gang. If he had worked with someone with more focus he could have made it.

Gaz-L
Jan 28, 2009


qwertyman posted:

How many other female cops have you seen on the show?

OK, like one. But Beadie doesn't get that reaction, even from the Russian madam. Only Kima. And they all talk like it's fact, not the bullshit trash talk like they would with Bunk or Lester. It's used IN the trash talk, but it's not the trash itself, if you get me. Basically, they treat her like most of the drug crew talk about Omar. His sexuality is taken as read, and the BS is different than it would be for Avon or someone.

Maybe it is just me reading things in because I know more than the characters, but it's very subtle, if it is.

qwertyman
May 2, 2003

Congress gave me $3.1 trillion, which I already spent on extremely dangerous drugs. We had acid, cocaine, and a whole galaxy of uppers, downers, screamers, laughers, and amyls.

DarkCrawler posted:

Watching S01E08, the scene where Stringer Bell is at the copy shop telling the dudes not to bring their corner bullshit into there and to the copy orders...he's such a tragic character, trying to whip up all the gang-bangers into an modern ruthless criminal enterprise without the dumb gang poo poo that gets the police on their way. He never succeeds in that.

I love that he tries to get his guys to follow Roberts Rules of Order, and then gets pissy at the guy taking minutes "of a criminal loving enterprise."

DarkCrawler
Apr 6, 2009

Man you spin around on the roof of a building couple of times and people going to think that some other news company is trying to ape Daily Planet


qwertyman posted:

I love that he tries to get his guys to follow Roberts Rules of Order, and then gets pissy at the guy taking minutes "of a criminal loving enterprise."

"This nigga too dumb to be recognized" scene, or something else I'm not remembering?

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Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Anybody remotely interesting is mad in some way or another.



I love it when he goes to his business school teacher and asks for advice on "holding market share with an inferior product", and then opens up the floor at the funeral parlor for marketing ideas and somebody (Bodie, I think) comes up with false competition to attract the junkies.

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