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Oh good!  Hahah! He can hide but he can't run! The internet comes and bites him in the rear end pow pow!
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My God, this comes just in time. I was feeling nostalgic for goon detectivery.
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Words can't express how much I love this thread. I came for the zombaby, staid for the moral debate, but now internet detectives are bringing the comedy and goon justice this just went gold. These people have so much drama in their lives I don't even know where to start in trying to dismantle and understand it.
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Involuntary Sparkle posted:BunnySkull, I PMed you. I think Dan77 is some other guy. Dan77 posts about metal groups that Dan Lirette would be more likely to protest than to laud: http://www.fluctu8.com/media/9501/45630/ fluctu8.com posted:Added: Friday, April 18, 2008
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Panne posted:Oh good! 
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Apology posted:I think Dan77 is some other guy. Dan77 posts about metal groups that Dan Lirette would be more likely to protest than to laud: Ah, thanks. Hadn't had the time to sit down and look more into depth with that. I think he was born in 1976, too.
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Hey I guess this may have been posted already, but it's a funny moral puzzle I just thought of. If you could find a way of inducing this in fetuses, would it be a morally responsible way of harvesting body parts? People get annoyed at parents for having children that benefit other children - might this be better, as there's no real human created? Or you could just go further and do it for anyone you liked. Hey, it's more macarbe than petri dishes but it works. You could save lives. EDIT: Whoah, I posted this from the first page, what the gently caress has been going on in the last few? Inverse square fucked around with this message at 14:13 on Apr 28, 2009 |
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WOW, Dan Lirette sure is batshit insane. (Just got done reading the entire blog post Involuntary Sparkle managed to save, thx!) I wonder how much Myah knew about Dan before preaching then jumping into bed with him? I can imagine not too, too much. Sure he confessed a few long in the past sins before he "came to jesus" but nothing recent or unsavory. I can see her, finding out she's knocked up, he runs away to jesus & the wife. Depressed, and angry, she decides to try and find him online and discovers that his open air preaching has been mocked and ridiculed from one town to the next. Threads are dedicated to his antics and his past insanity. Myah sits there and think, gently caress, this whose baby I'm carrying!?!?! This is who I sinned against Jesus for!?!?!? Fast forward a few days in a doctor's office, "Bad news, your baby has no brain." Egads!!! This has not been a fun trip for old fundie Myah. But when you search for your redemption on Craig's List, can you really expect much more? What a roller coaster Myah has been on. As far as I can tell finding Jesus has been nothing but bad news for Myah. Pretty good morality tale for those considering getting saved. What I can't get over is with this extremely tawdry, tacky, background that she goes on to blog about the baby, speak at pro-life functions, etc... Seems like a pretty big risk for some major embarassment, but then again Myah doesn't seem like the type to "think things through" before jumping into action. I also have to think more than a few people are aware of all of this. Obviously rumors would have spread like wildfire at whatever church she was "staff" at. Also the whole Facebook group intro. - two paragraphs about Myah "knowing she sinned" blah blah - makes a lot, lot more sense now. It seemed strange for them to harp on this when I first read it, but now with this background it fits perfect. That's probably a tip of the hat acknowledgment to anyone from that church that stumbles on the group - a not so subtle "Shhhh, she knows she shouldn't have hosed Dan Lirette. But don't say poo poo about it here, mkay?" Lord this is really some kind of insane fundie soap opera.
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Oh, can the OP be updated now? After seeing a few people who read the first page, posted, and they were all wtf? It's probably a good idea. Don't have to go into great detail on the story, just major updates - when I found all that stuff on Myah & Dan (and speculation started) and then StonePanda striking gold with the admission from Dan. Also, anyone think that maybe pushing all this miracle baby stuff is Myah's way of ensuring Dan's nose is rubbed in it? I mean if he took off and doesn't have contact with her one good way of insuring he hears about "his baby" is to make it a superstar of the fundie preaching circuit. (Also, bets on if he abandoned Myah before or after finding out the baby had no brain? She found out pretty early on I think, so I bet the bastard ran when he heard it was hosed up.)
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BunnySkull posted:Also, anyone think that maybe pushing all this miracle baby stuff is Myah's way of ensuring Dan's nose is rubbed in it? Honestly, I doubt it. Making her baby popular enough on the internet for Dan to hear about it would require more planning skills than Myah has. While she originally used her pregnancy as a tool for pro-life speaking, I think she's just regular ol' crazy at this point. She didn't expect the baby to live this long and now she's lost it.
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Also, something lame I'd like to point out (unless I'm wrong about this) but this Dan guy didn't actually go to jail, he went to "youth jail" for 6 years. Seriously now, that's just jail lite. The people at the Moncton board were calling him "not only a religious poser, but a badboy poser."
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God bless you guys for uncovering all this dirt, this thread has been amazing. I'm so excited now, I just want to do the tango with Myah!  With Faith as the rose in the teeth of course.
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Can someone post a summary of what's going on with this Dan guy? I think I have it but let's see... *Myah meets Dan from Craigslist. Dan's a raving fundie who preaches and poo poo and spent some time in some sort of juvenile center. *Dan is married but he takes a spiritually-deprived Myah under his wing and converts(?) her to a pro-life fundie. *Myah fucks Dan, gets pregnant and doesn't take her folic acid and, among other reasons, is punished by GOD and has a brainless-baby *Dan abandons ship sometime after loving Myah and continues to go about preaching his ways to whomever. *then ??? Myah blogs? Is that right?
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Pepper posted:Well, see, I was thinking the same thing at first. A garden where people plant the seeds of dead babies to grow into baby cabbage to make Cabbage Patch Kids, but on further reflection it seems to be more like the Rainbow Bridge... for babies! I admit I had to google this to work out what you were talking about http://www.petloss.com/poems/maingrp/rainbowb.htm quote:Just this side of heaven is a place called Rainbow Bridge. So I guess all the drowned kittens and the puppies that were beaten to death go to Doggie Hell then?  Oh...that explains why the pro-lifers feel the way they do. Abortions are the human equivalent of drowned kittens and go straight to Hell, instead of running free through the woodlands and meadows with the dead pets and miscarried foetuses. Pepper posted:I didn't know Heaven was divided into subsections. Is that in the Bible? I think it has a tier system, like the circles of Hell and your access level depends on how much money you give Pat Robertson.
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johnny sack posted:Can someone post a summary of what's going on with this Dan guy? Pretty close, but I think Myah was well on the fundie path by the time she sought/ met Dan via Craig's List. She meets him via craig's list post, asking for a "good christian church in Moncton" He introduces her to Highfield Baptist Church, where she becomes involved in youth ministry and gets hired on as staff. Dan takes her under his own personal wing and has her tag along to his "open air preaching" and even gets her to do it too. (This is where all those forum posts come into play because apparently some guy on the street very strongly told them to GTFO and he runs to the message boards saying he was "attacked" or that Myah was during "preaching the gospel." All the locals there know Dan and what a stupid batshit fundie he is - for the most part he is laughed off the boards. Some fundie boards take him seriously. It's during their whirlwind street-preaching that romance blooms, Myah & Dan become sinful adulterers and whammo Myah is preggo. Dan finds out and freaks the gently caress out eventually confessing to his wife (or so he claims) and runs off to a new "church" to get saved, forgiven and preachy all over again. Myah finds out she is having a brainless zombie baby. The BIG question is, did Dan run off to Jesus before or after finding out the baby was a zombie? Can't get the timeline on that figured out. But then you are correct, it ends with, * Myah starts wacko pro-life blog about "miracle baby," becomes darling of fundie pro-life newsgroups * SomethingAwful.com discovers Myah and starts digging up her dirt. EDIT: What needs to happen is Dan needs to get an account to defend himself. We need either his side or Myah's of this tawdry tale and since Myah is busy taking care of Zombaby (and Dan certainly ISN'T) I think he would be the better candidate to update us. He may think running off was the biggest mistake of his wanna-be a televangelist career. Myah has the last laugh because the kid is fundie superstar and the "littlest pro-life witness" Had Dan stuck around he could be cashing in on this bigtime - doing his preaching circuit with the "miracle baby" and the money would be pouring in! But no he ran away like the little hypocrite fundie coward he obviously is and is back to street preaching somewhere else and getting laughed at. BunnySkull fucked around with this message at 16:43 on Apr 28, 2009 |
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Waffle Grid posted:I haven't seen anything in the thread about it, so I just thought I'd chime in. In regards to all the folic acid stuff, well, you can actually take too much, it's been all over the news in Canada recently. They add it to basically everything now and they're finding that if people are taking supplements on top of that it can cause big problems like breast and colon cancers. Not to detract from the awesome Dan=Scumbag discussion, but this is the first I've heard this. Everything I've read says it's nearly impossible to get a toxic level of folic acid. It's water soluble, so no matter how much you take, your body flushes out the excess. In a quick google search I only found one warning, which came from Canada, and even that article (http://www.canada.com/Health/much+folic+acid+trigger+cancer/796895/story.html) went back and forth, from: quote:"We don't know whether taking vitamin supplements and fortifying food [with folic acid] ? actually accelerates cancer risk among susceptible people, but there is certainly a scientific basis for that possibility," Mason said. to quote:Health Canada has reviewed what it calls the "inconsistent" evidence on the issue, and has no plans to alter or cancel the program, said Alastair Sinclair, a department spokesman. And pretty much concluding: quote:"It was meant to prevent neural-tube defects, and it did a wonderful job. [But] for people with pre-cancerous cells, or undiagnosed colon cancer tumours, giving high-dose folic acid or having high folate levels might actually make their condition worse." quote:British experts on spina-bifida argued in a letter to The Lancet last year that the trial published in the New England Journal showed no significant evidence that folate can be carcinogenic. And, like Ray, they said the increased cancer rates identified in Mason's study were likely just a result of stepped-up screening for colorectal cancer. In other words, I guess, it's all how you interpret the data. The closest thing I could find on a recommendation on how much to take comes from the March of Dimes: March of Dimes posted:There is no known toxic level for folic acid. The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention suggests that women consume no more than 1,000 micrograms (1 milligram) of folic acid per day. If you eat a diet rich in folate and take 400 microgram folic acid supplement, you will still fall well within the recommended range. So, I wouldn't worry too much about it. With news stories breaking practically weekly about some new thing causing cancer, I'd say your odds are still much better taking a supplement each day than not taking it at all (Disclaimer: I am not a doctor). Now, back to your regularly scheduled craziness.
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I have to admit, even after all the poo poo that has been dug up about her, I still feel very, very sorry for this woman. Yes, she is foolish and naive and delusional. She probably always has been, and that made her easy prey for a scumbag like this Lirette guy. Her pro-life crusade is distasteful and hypocritical, certainly, but I completely understand why she's gone down this route. In her mind, she's a sinner being punished by God. And he isn't just punishing her--he's punishing the baby she conceived in sin. This woman's life is completely ruined. It was ruined by her foolishness and naivete, it was ruined by Dan Lirette, and deep down, I think she knows God and religion ruined it too. There is nothing to be happy about here, there's nothing to celebrate. She's being "punished" for her stupidity and poor choices with the miserable life she's living.
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FuzzyDunlop posted:I have to admit, even after all the poo poo that has been dug up about her, I still feel very, very sorry for this woman. Yes, she is foolish .... Ah, how much sympathy can you have for someone who brings everything on themselves? I would agree with you except I don't think she believes "she is being punished by god via the baby for her sins" I mean she is openly celebrating the "miracle" of her baby on a blog. If she was "ashamed" or thought this was punishment I don't think she would have made such a spectacle of herself - no matter how desperately she wants to push her pro-life fundie agenda. If she really thought that about the baby - this would have been much more on the QT instead of blabbed to every christian news service under the sun. In the blog she constantly says "God is on our side" so I think your reading to much in to it. (Not saying with her beliefs it wouldn't be logical to assume that no-brain baby is a punishment for sin, but if she ever considered that it didn't stick because her blog certainly doesn't indicate that. However, the fundie facebook group at least hints at it. But no EVERY Fetus is a MIRACLE even if it has to be created with something as distasteful and evil and fornication.)
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BunnySkull posted:Oh, can the OP be updated now? After seeing a few people who read the first page, posted, and they were all wtf? It's probably a good idea. Don't have to go into great detail on the story, just major updates - when I found all that stuff on Myah & Dan (and speculation started) and then StonePanda striking gold with the admission from Dan. What should I add to the OP? Someone give me a breakdown to post and I'll edit it. I'm still trying to catch up on this myself holy poo poo this is like an internet detective rollercoaster ride 
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BunnySkull posted:Ah, how much sympathy can you have for someone who brings everything on themselves? I would agree with you except I don't think she believes "she is being punished by god via the baby for her sins" I mean she is openly celebrating the "miracle" of her baby on a blog. If she was "ashamed" or thought this was punishment I don't think she would have made such a spectacle of herself - no matter how desperately she wants to push her pro-life fundie agenda. If she really thought that about the baby - this would have been much more on the QT instead of blabbed to every christian news service under the sun. In the blog she constantly says "God is on our side" so I think your reading to much in to it. I find the woman distasteful, certainly, but I bet you it's all false bravado. I think what she posts on her blog is the idealized version of her life as she now sees it. I'm definitely reading into it, and I think it's a technique for her to continue to delude herself, because that makes her feel better. Deep down, I think she's miserable and feels incredibly guilty, which is part of why she's plastered herself on the internet this way. We shouldn't forget that a huge portion of what's on the net about her is coming from other agents that are using her story for their own means. The only thing Myah seems directly involved in is the blog, and maybe the Facebook group (haven't read it, and it's private now). Reading the blog from the beginning you can see that none of it started out this way. It was far more personal and seemed to be her way of coping, before the baby lived longer than expected and the "God's Miracle" crowd started getting involved. I think she's running with that line because it's the only comfort she has.
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lemon shark posted:What should I add to the OP? Someone give me a breakdown to post and I'll edit it. I'm still trying to catch up on this myself holy poo poo this is like an internet detective rollercoaster ride First this post: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3121857&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=30#post3599 It's the one where I discovered Dan & Myah, and it discussed their open air preaching and other stuff. Involuntary Sparkle came across a long post by Dan on his "testimony" (still have the link but Dan went back and took it down once we found the juicy bits - but InSpk has it all copy pasted and saved if needed) Then this post by StonePanda http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3121857&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=33#post360005204 Where he finds, and quotes, the section where Dan admits to an affair and getting a "girl from his church's staff" knocked up. Then he proceeded to go through the internet and take down the numerous videos of him and Myah preaching together. That should do it I think - anyone else think something more should be added to the OP to get people up to speed? EDIT: You could add this summary, if needed, from a previous post I did when someone asked for a summary: Myah meets Dan via craig's list post, asking for a "good christian church in Moncton" He introduces her to Highfield Baptist Church, where she becomes involved in youth ministry and gets hired on as staff. Dan takes her under his own personal wing and has her tag along to his "open air preaching" and even gets her to do it too. (This is where all those forum posts come into play because apparently some guy on the street very strongly told them to GTFO and he runs to the message boards saying he was "attacked" or that Myah was during "preaching the gospel." All the locals there know Dan and what a stupid batshit fundie he is - for the most part he is laughed off the boards. Some fundie boards take him seriously. It's during their whirlwind street-preaching that romance blooms, Myah & Dan become sinful adulterers and whammo Myah is preggo. Dan finds out and freaks the gently caress out eventually confessing to his wife (or so he claims) and runs off to a new "church" to get saved, forgiven and preachy all over again. Myah finds out she is having a brainless zombie baby. The BIG question is, did Dan run off to Jesus before or after finding out the baby was a zombie? Can't get the timeline on that figured out. But then you are correct, it ends with, * Myah starts wacko pro-life blog about "miracle baby," becomes darling of fundie pro-life newsgroups * SomethingAwful.com discovers Myah and starts digging up her dirt. --- But the links are the most important thing - so people can read it for themselves. BunnySkull fucked around with this message at 18:27 on Apr 28, 2009 |
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Wonder Bra posted:The strange thing about this thread is that it's actually made me seriously reconsider whether I would carry an anencephalic baby to term. Pretty much sums up what I would think. I had a baby and the entire time I was pregnant I was worried something terrible would happen. I cannot imagine the pain this woman went through to know that having a baby with this condition means that it WILL die and will NOT be normal. I mean, after 12 hours of labor or whatever going through all that pain and hoping everything will just be alright only to have this baby born would be heartbreaking. I just don't know what I would do. I don't think the choice that she made was the correct one, but I honestly can't say what I would do in a situation like this. I think that in all reality, it would make me crazy. Kind of like her, but I wouldn't keep it "alive" I don't think. I just don't really know. This whole situation is so hosed.
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BunnySkull posted:
eightbitgirl was kind enough to put it up on Google docs, too: eightbitgirl posted:http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=df5f8mfz_35wss6prfk&hl=en
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EDIT: ^^^ Ah great, that needs to be added to the OP then too. Yes, we need to get that OP updated pronto. There has been quite a few posts where people read the OP, read a few pages, and then comment with no idea of what has been uncovered. Disappoints me too, when I try to check on the thread at work and see new posts I hope, "oooh, more dirt & discoveries" but then it's just someone who's read stumbled upon the thread for the first time expressing their horror/thoughts. Kind of ruins the flow of the whole tawdry soap opera were uncovering too.
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Involuntary Sparkle posted:eightbitgirl was kind enough to put it up on Google docs, too: Jesus loving Christ. I want the old testament god back. Seriously. So you knocked up some girl, but you pray a couple of times and ALL IS FORGIVEN! Oh, I guess the girl is left with zombaby to raise on her own, but that's ok, you're totally absolved of responsibility. Repenting means giving half of your income to this woman who you have hosed literally and figuratively. Cutting your dick off would help, too. But no, we just say some words alone and everything is ok. Another Jack Chick Tract comes to life.
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Okay, updated. Let me know if anything else needs to be added. Good lord I still can't believe this story
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lemon shark posted:Okay, updated. Let me know if anything else needs to be added. Excellent, thanks for updating it. Yes, this story certainly has taken an unexpected turn for the bizarre and tawdry. Threads like this are always the most fun, somewhat interesting OP, thread develops, suddenly details are unearthed leading to completely unexpected crazy poo poo. Who would have ever thought the OP about a brainless baby blog would just be the tip of the iceberg.
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Somethingawful.com: The Right Hand of God! expose and punish those wicked hypocrites and blasphemers!
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How do we know Dan is the father? I mean, was she the only summer "student worker" there? Is there any evidence that isn't purely coincidental? This story is just too insane to keep track of.
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Just to beat a dead horse, here is an example of how a baby about that age SHOULD react to being tickled! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4_4-JDpt0k
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I wrote before that a brainless baby was the perfect banner for fundies to rally under as they wage holy war against reality, but these latest revelations take it to the next level and turn the story into golden material for literary journalism/New Yorker magazine type poo poo. The unfolding drama here is such a fascinating microcosm of modern fundamentalist culture that it's really unbelievable. There's adultery, betrayal, general irresponsibility, imagined forgiveness, devastating news from doctors, the subsequent rejection of science, "miracles", hypocrisy, willful ignorance, an "us against them" mentality creating a sense of community, the internet's role in the story, the hype as it was played up in Christian publications, the pimping out of the baby as a tool in the pro-life crusade, and it goes on and on. You can't make this stuff up. It's got that uncanny flavor of real life in small-town North America. Someone with some investigative skill and a talent for writing should definitely do something with this story. This is Pulitzer Prize stuff right here.
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If I did my math right (her blog states she's 41 weeks pregnant on Feb. 13), she conceived a couple of weeks before Dan posted the videos of her open-air preaching. rear end in a top hat must have jumped her the minute they met. Do we know the date of the Craigslist posting?
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BunnySkull posted:Oh,Oh,Oh Dan knows we are on to him. He just edited the link that Panda Bear posted, where he admited the affair with Myah, like 5 minutes ago on those forums!! This is going to be loving BEAUTIFUL.
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FuzzyDunlop posted:If I did my math right (her blog states she's 41 weeks pregnant on Feb. 13), she conceived a couple of weeks before Dan posted the videos of her open-air preaching. Actually he said something in the long video post like he had known her (she have been saved/ become a radical christian) for 4 months or so by the time they got around to harrassing people on the street with Jesus. He had to "prepare" her to open air preach doncha ya know? He also says he "got her the job" at the church he suggested she attend. So they met, he suggested the church and she visits and ends up also getting a job there, they are hanging out and end up going out to preach on the streets together.
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Brillig posted:Just to beat a dead horse, here is an example of how a baby about that age SHOULD react to being tickled! This too. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7c3UMpBERs&feature=related  Aww.
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