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Hi there! Many of you are by now familiar with Nate Silver's map of non-black voting trends across the USA:
![]() This is a fine chart for places like Nebraska or Minnesota or Alabama, but in places with a large Native or Latino population such as Texas or New Mexico it makes the map dramatically more blue than what the white population represents. I was bored at work today and decided to just look at white voting trends, and then narrowed it to just white males because a) it makes the results even more dramatic, as white females vote slightly more left-wing than white males and b) let's face it 90% of this forum fits under that distinction. I happened to find a place online listing the vote percentage per state, as well as the exit poll results of just white men. Here they are, with the percentage difference white men voted compared to their state as a whole: code:tl;dr: In every single state the white male vote was more pro-McCain than the average, from 1% in Nebraska to 34% in Mississippi (in which, among white male voters, McCain beat Obama by 81 points.) Nationally, the difference was 12 points. Here's what the map would look like if whitey had his way: Also bear in mind that California, which represents nearly half of Obama's electoral votes, is a state he wins by less than 2 points. "But wait!" You say. "What about young people? Aren't they really left-wing?" Well, yes, to some degree: But a funny thing happens if we just look at our fellow crackers: There's no further breakdown among males and females 18-29 only, so we have to do some extrapolation. Obama beat McCain 52.9-45.7. That means that white people 18-29 were roughly 1.3% more Obama-voting than the national average. And given the fact that white women generally voted about 5% more for Obama: ...And we are faced with the conclusion that white males aged 18-29 voted more right-wing than the national average. So the next time you see your friend's Facebook wall full of Qassam Counts, the next time your drunken buddy at a party starts complaining about how there's no White Entertainment Television, the next time you see a tea party protest full of angry whiteys, the next time you hear a hot blonde talking about how she likes Rush Limbaugh, the next time you read a post in GBS stating that all illegals should be deported, the next time you hear a co-worker or uncle rambling about birth certificates or welfare or the ZOG or ACORN, you'll know why. White people, white men in particular, are right-wing poo poo. ![]() --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Edit: Updates to OP. Update I: Is this phenomenon something that occured because white male voters as a whole were racist against Barack Obama personally? Not significantly enough to be a measurable factor. They're just simply right-wing poo poo. ![]() 2008: http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/re...ls/#val=USP00p1 Actual Election Results: 52.9-45.7 White Males Only: 41 - 57 Difference: (R) +11.9 2004: http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/pa...0/epolls.0.html Actual Election Results: 50.7 - 48.3 White Males Only: 62 - 37 Difference: (R) + 11.3 2000: http://observationalism.com/2008/11...2000-2004-2008/ Actual Eleciton Results: 47.9 - 48.4 White Males Only: 60 - 36 Difference: (R) + 12.1 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Update II: I posted earlier about the discrepancies between the white male vote vs. the total vote: 12.1% in 2000, 11.3% in 2004, 11.9% in 2008. But does this mean that white males were more liberal-voting in 2004? No, a roughly 12% difference seems to be a good baseline. The change in 2004 was that all the other groups also shifted rightward for that election, thus hiding part of the white male's right-wing shithood (look at the 'vs. 2000' column): Among white males in that election, Bush beat Kerry by 25 points: ...fully 14 points more than how white females voted. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Update III: code:--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Update IV: Shops-At-Gap, the fact that you seem to think that saying "white males are right-wing poo poo" and "blacks are criminals" are equivalent statements belies your own retarded prejudice against blacks, not any of mine towards my own race (and, let's get serious, yours.) the comparison is invalid for two major reasons: 1) the majority of black people are not criminals, not even remotely, whereas the vast majority of white males are conservative, and 2) to the extent that blacks are criminals, this phenomenon is centralized almost exclusively amongst the poor, whereas whitey conservativism transcends lines of economic class. please keep this in mind in your future blitherings tia ![]() --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Update V: One thing I was interested in was how much the difference in the minority vote really made between 2004 and 2008. In 2004, here was the breakdown: code:code:(.77 * .43) + (.23 * .70) = 49.21% Democrat. Under this example, Barack Obama would have lost the popular vote in 2008. Is the reverse true? If there was the 2008 number of non-crackers (27%) in 2004 and they voted Democrat in the same higher percentage (80%), but otherwise white voters (73%) voted Democrat in the same proportion (41%), would Kerry have won? (.73 * .41) + (.27 * .80) = 51.53% Democrat. Kerry would have won the popular vote in 2004. What about if, say, in 2004 there were a 2008 number of non-white voters voting according to 2008 patterns, excepting that black voters only increased by 1% instead of 2% and were still only voting Democrat at the Kerry percentage of 88%, to control partially for a possible impetus to vote for Obama based on his race? In that event non-whites would vote Democrat at a rate of : (.12 * .88) + (.09 * .67) + (.02 * 62) + (.03 * 66) / .26 = 76.2%. Plugging that into our equation: (.74 * .41) + (.26 * .762) = 50.15% Democrat. Kerry would have won the popular vote in 2004. tl;dr: 1. The election of Barack Obama is tied most directly and most coherently to the increase both of non-white voters and their increased identification with the Democratic Party. 2. If the non-white voter demographics in 2008 were the same as they were in 2004, Barack Obama would have lost in 2008. 3. If the non-white voter demographics were the same in 2004 as they were in 2008, John Kerry would have been elected in 2004. 4. The Republicans are hosed prettymuch indefinitely unless they can start garnering more than 25% of the non-white vote and/or 65%+ of the white vote. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Update VI: whites under 50k vote 39 points more Republican than nonwhites under 50k --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Update VII: What a lot of people, especially liberals, do not realize is that while people do vote to some extent on economic class, they do not really vote on policy, and to a much greater extent than either of those they vote on "image." Republicans understand this. This is why Dukakis in the tank sunk him, this is why Bush I struggled against being the "wimp President," this is why Republican commentators keep pumping the outrage-well on Barack Obama's bowling ability or choice in hamburger topping. This is why all Republicans attempt to paint Democratic males as weak elitist queers and Democratic females as hideous, emasculating dykes. It's branding. This is why John Kerry pretended to be a hunter in 2004. This is why Hillary Clinton ate hot dogs with union members during the 2008 primaries. This is why Dubya's handlers marketed him as a born-again tough-talkin' cowboy instead of a rich-boy Yaley male cheerleader. For better or worse, race is a major part of image. The difference between white voters and black voters in 2008 was 52 points. This is greater than the difference between:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Update VIII: lmao in 2004 a lesser percentage of black people voted for Bush than did self-described "liberals" code:![]() Goatstein fucked around with this message at May 10, 2009 around 14:32 |
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As a young white male,
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i didn't know all white people lived in the south and that we can make blanket assumptions about a race if they're white but nice job compiling useless statistics to wipe your racist retard tears with
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| # ? May 6, 2009 23:24 |
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On average, this group voted right wing. Consequently every member of this group is right wing because I am mentally retarded and my dendrites don't work like a grown ups :barvo:
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yeah i guess kinda ?
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white males have the highest rates of atheism / agnosticism in america
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Buyakashar
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| # ? May 6, 2009 23:29 |
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analysis is bunk because democrat voters are also right wing as hell
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| # ? May 6, 2009 23:29 |
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On average, white people are richer than blacks. All white people are rich. I am smart. Black people have on average been poorer. No black peopel are rich. I am a smart adult.
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Wesley Button posted:i didn't know all white people lived in the south and that we can make blanket assumptions about a race if they're white but nice job compiling useless statistics to wipe your racist retard tears with is Illinois "the South?" California? Nevada? Alaska? New York? Connecticut? Pennsylvania? Michigan? New Mexico? Rhode Island? all of these had white males voting ten points or more towards McCain than their state average
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| # ? May 6, 2009 23:30 |
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Complete Failure posted:white males have the highest rates of atheism / agnosticism in america On average, young black men are more religiously devoted than young white men. There are no black atheists
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| # ? May 6, 2009 23:30 |
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This thread is a textbook example of the reverse racism which is marginalizing white males across the country.
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Excellent OP. Voted 5. DTWM
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Wesley Button posted:On average, white people are richer than blacks. All white people are rich. I am smart. Black people have on average been poorer. No black peopel are rich. I am a smart adult. on average, white people are richer than blacks on average, white males are more shitheadedly right-wing than everybody else
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| # ? May 6, 2009 23:31 |
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i loving hate white people
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Goatstein posted:is Illinois "the South?" California? Nevada? Alaska? New York? Connecticut? Pennsylvania? Michigan? New Mexico? Rhode Island? all of these had white males voting ten points or more towards McCain than their state average And as we all know this is among the groups with the highest turnout,
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| # ? May 6, 2009 23:31 |
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this thread has turned my world upside down
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THS posted:i loving hate white people and minorities loving hate you for being a reactionary doofus
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| # ? May 6, 2009 23:32 |
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The Moon Monster posted:This thread is a textbook example of the reverse racism which is marginalizing white males across the country. does this have something to do with Othello?
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| # ? May 6, 2009 23:32 |
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noted white male right-wing shithead Wesley Button upset that facts depict white males as right wing shitheads
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| # ? May 6, 2009 23:32 |
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Goatstein posted:on average, white people are richer than blacks nice backpedaling you enjoyable human being racist Goatstein posted:White people, white men in particular, are right-wing poo poo.
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This is, btw, why white males aren't allowed on SCOTUS anymore.
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Wesley Button posted:And as we all know this is among the groups with the highest turnout, what
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Wesley Button posted:On average, young black men are more religiously devoted than young white men. There are no black atheists Wait. Are you some kind of troll or something?
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Wesley Button posted:nice backpedaling you enjoyable human being racist i'm sorry that in a thread depicting statistical averages you cannot grasp the implicit and explicit assumption that i was talking in generalities but if it makes you stop crying angry cracker tears all over both my thread and your Grilled Stuf't Burrito then yes i am super racist and also probably a race traitor who will get his when RAHOWA comes, now please get out ![]()
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Wesley Button posted:and minorities loving hate you for being a reactionary doofus you loving suck at posting get out
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Actually you didn't explain why whatsoever. You just suggested that they are right wing and left it at that.
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wesley button wrong goatstein right
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the black husserl posted:Wait. Are you some kind of troll or something?
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| # ? May 6, 2009 23:38 |
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Ace of Rakes posted:He's not even trolling, hes making fun of Goatstein and LF at large for being reactionary against whites following specific statistics and generalized platitudes. shut up you dumb piece of poo poo
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| # ? May 6, 2009 23:38 |
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reactionary against whites
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close the loving forum
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Probably flawed, but still interesting
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| # ? May 6, 2009 23:39 |
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Just because someones got it coming doesn't mean you have to indulge in it.
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here is the table from wikipedia about voter preferences by income since all rich people are white males, at least white males who make more than $200,000 per year have their head screwed on right Family Income Size Obama McCain Other Less than $15,000 6% 73% 25% 2% $15,000–$29,999 12% 60% 37% 3% $30,000-$49,999 19% 55% 43% 2% $50,000-$74,999 21% 48% 49% 3% $75,000-$99,999 15% 51% 48% 1% $100,000-$149,999 14% 48% 51% 1% $150,000-$199,999 6% 48% 50% 2% Greater than $200,000 6% 52% 46% 2%
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we were filling out course evaluations in my intro to international relations class today and the girl in front of me wrote a paragraph long rant about how "liberal and biased" our textbook was. our textbook was literally just a bunch of technical terms, with a couple chapters discussing how people in developing countries are poor. conclusion: all white people are right-wing poo poo, kill them all
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on average, blacks commit more crimes. on average,
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Ace of Rakes posted:He's not even trolling, hes making fun of Goatstein and LF at large for being reactionary against whites following specific statistics and generalized platitudes. it is a political play on expections that takes the form of internet exchanges
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whites voted against prop 8 thread immersion ruined
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jesus christ I come here to hate the whiteness I contain within me I really don't need the hassle from people defending it
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