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EVGA Longoria: Dec 25, 2005; Let's go exploring!

TheQat posted:

Yeah, but if you order release-date delivery, they should get it to you on the release date no matter what kind of shipping you asked for Besides, I ordered it months ago

Next day shipping the day before = release day delivery.

I've never had to pay extra for it.

# ? Oct 20, 2009 17:23

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# ? May 26, 2013 04:25

Service Charge: Jan 22, 2004; I'm not cheap

Honey Im Homme posted:

gently caress royal mail

Should have ordered via PCWorld! My copy of Windows 7 arrived this morning, as they sent out all their preorders early to avoid the postal strikes, pretty nice.

# ? Oct 20, 2009 17:28

fishmech: Jul 16, 2006; I see a ship in the harbor
I can and shall obey
But if it wasn't for your misfortune
I'd be a heavenly person today

TheQat posted:

Did anyone else order release-date delivery for Windows 7 via Amazon? If so, has your copy shipped, or do you have any prior experience with Amazon release date delivery?

Off-topic reason I'm wondering about this:

I'm a little curious as to how they think they're going to get it to me on the 22nd when it hasn't shipped yet. Not that it's impossible, because I live pretty close to two of their warehouses, but I'm not filled with confidence given that every Amazon pre-order I've made in the past (2+ years ago now. I'm only giving them another chance because it's release date delivery instead of a normal pre-order) has had to be canceled and re-ordered once the release date arrives.

What happened two+ times in the past: the release date for whatever I pre-ordered would pass without a shipping notice, then I would check the order status on Amazon and it would say "expected to ship in 5 days" (or something to that effect), while the product page proper would say "ships in 24 hours." Then, if I canceled my pre-order and reordered from the product page, it would ship out that day.

So I guess I'm wondering if Amazon has improved their pre-order fulfillment.

I ordered $5.58 Release Day Shipping on my Zune HD preorder and I got it on launch day at 3 PM. It's loving great, and usually cheaper than anything besides super-saver and standard.

Casao posted:

Next day shipping the day before = release day delivery.

I've never had to pay extra for it.

Win 7 Ultimate Pre-order:
Super-saver: free
Standard: $4.98
Two-day: $8.98
One-day: $17.98
Release date: $5.98

Looks to me like you're paying $12 EXTRA to get next day instead of release day shipping.

fishmech fucked around with this message at Oct 20, 2009 around 17:34

# ? Oct 20, 2009 17:29

Cojawfee: May 31, 2006; THE CLAMPS!
or clamp like device

Does release date shipping overnight it? I've noticed if you choose whatever is cheapest (especially the free one) they do take a few days to ship it.

# ? Oct 20, 2009 17:42

fishmech: Jul 16, 2006; I see a ship in the harbor
I can and shall obey
But if it wasn't for your misfortune
I'd be a heavenly person today

Cojawfee posted:

Does release date shipping overnight it? I've noticed if you choose whatever is cheapest (especially the free one) they do take a few days to ship it.

Yeah, it's overnight. You get it on release day, by 7 or pm. And as you can see, it's only a dollar more than standard shipping.

This was how the shipping looked for my Zune HD's release day shipping on September 15th:

code:

Date  	                Time  	        Location  	                Event Details
September 15, 2009 	02:56:00 PM 	LAWNSIDE-BURLINGTON NJ US 	Delivered
September 15, 2009 	07:45:00 AM 	LAWNSIDE NJ US 	                Out for delivery
September 15, 2009 	07:45:00 AM 	LAWNSIDE SORT NJ US 	        Arrival Scan
September 15, 2009 	07:30:00 AM 	LAWNSIDE SORT NJ US 	        Arrival Scan
September 15, 2009 	06:39:00 AM 	PHILADELPHIA PA US 	        Departure Scan
September 15, 2009 	06:30:00 AM 	LAWNSIDE NJ US 	                Arrival Scan
September 15, 2009 	06:08:00 AM 	PHILADELPHIA PA US 	        Arrival Scan
September 15, 2009 	04:19:00 AM 	LOUISVILLE KY US 	        Departure Scan
September 15, 2009 	01:00:00 AM 	LOUISVILLE KY US 	        Shipment received by carrier
September 14, 2009 	06:34:27 PM 	Campbellsville KY US 	        Shipment has left seller facility and is in transit

# ? Oct 20, 2009 17:46

Erwin: Feb 17, 2006

Release-day shipping is free with Amazon Prime, but it doesn't tell you what 'type' of shipping it is (release-day is the type). It'll be interesting to see if I get it Thursday.

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# ? Oct 20, 2009 17:47

EVGA Longoria: Dec 25, 2005; Let's go exploring!

Erwin posted:

Release-day shipping is free with Amazon Prime, but it doesn't tell you what 'type' of shipping it is (release-day is the type). It'll be interesting to see if I get it Thursday.

Ah, that would be it, I've only ever bought pre-release with Prime, so I just checked that, I guess.

fishmech posted:

I ordered $5.58 Release Day Shipping on my Zune HD preorder and I got it on launch day at 3 PM. It's loving great, and usually cheaper than anything besides super-saver and standard.

Win 7 Ultimate Pre-order:
Super-saver: free
Standard: $4.98
Two-day: $8.98
One-day: $17.98
Release date: $5.98

Looks to me like you're paying $12 EXTRA to get next day instead of release day shipping.

Yeah, what I'm saying is that they were shipping it out the day before on overnight shipping so I got it release day every time I pre-ordered, not that I was checking next day and getting it day after. Sorry if that was unclear.

# ? Oct 20, 2009 17:53

LorneReams: Jun 27, 2003; I'm bizarre

I just installed it last night after talking myself out of it for a couple weeks. I wonder why I waited. My loving scanner that I could never get to work properly in XP worked immediatly after installation. No drivers, nothing. I'm always a wimp about changing my system, but I cannot give this OS enough love. This is the best pre SP OS I've ever used.

# ? Oct 20, 2009 17:56

fishmech: Jul 16, 2006; I see a ship in the harbor
I can and shall obey
But if it wasn't for your misfortune
I'd be a heavenly person today

Casao posted:

Ah, that would be it, I've only ever bought pre-release with Prime, so I just checked that, I guess.

Yeah, what I'm saying is that they were shipping it out the day before on overnight shipping so I got it release day every time I pre-ordered, not that I was checking next day and getting it day after. Sorry if that was unclear.

Oh, heh.

# ? Oct 20, 2009 17:58

Bleepblorp3587: Jun 1, 2003

I ordered Windows 7 from Amazon.co.uk using 1st class post and it has shipped tonight via DHL. I guess Amazon and/or Microsoft don't want the Royal Mail ruining the launch.

# ? Oct 20, 2009 18:00

Lady Gaza: Nov 20, 2008

Has anyone ordered direct from Microsoft? I did because I took advantage of the student offer. I'm wondering what they use to deliver their packages. I don't have a DVD burner so can't really install until I get the DVD.

# ? Oct 20, 2009 18:56

sanchez: Feb 26, 2003

Xanin posted:

Has anyone ordered direct from Microsoft?.

I did, the original email said the credit card wont be charged until the order ships, it was charged yesterday so presumably something will arrive this week.

According to this they use UPS Ground

http://store.microsoft.com/Help/Orders-Shipping

# ? Oct 20, 2009 19:00

Tequila Ranger: Sep 11, 2004; host after host after host ...

I just pulled the trigger on the "Home Premium 3-Pack" upgrade, and now I am noticing, unlike the "Home Premium" (Single User) upgrade, it makes no mention of including both 32 and 64 bit versions (I want 64 bit). Am I screwed?

Also, if it does include the 64 bit version, I should have no license issues upgrading Win XP Pro SP2 (Oem) to Win 7 "Home Premium" 64, correct?

Edit: This is what I bought: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...rd_i=1286119011

# ? Oct 20, 2009 20:43

LeadSled: Jan 7, 2008; Speedy-thing goes in, Speedy-thing comes out

I noticed the other night an imaging utility listed in the Recovery options. From what was said on the other page, am I correct in thinking that this is essentially Norton Ghost but integrated into the OS?

The reason I'm asking is that I'm upgrading my parents' computers to 7 when their pre-orders arrive later on this month. From prior experience, I know that something will go awry with one or both of their systems before the year is out. Thanks to the magic of external hard drives and sync software, all I'm really worried about is how to easily get the system itself up and running again. Being able to reload off an image with all their programs already installed and ready to go would save me a lot of trouble as well as about sixty dollars in gas.

My parents are computer-literate enough to figure out how to hit F8 on startup and point the computer at a disk image, so I hope I'm right about the imaging stuff.

# ? Oct 20, 2009 20:51

fishmech: Jul 16, 2006; I see a ship in the harbor
I can and shall obey
But if it wasn't for your misfortune
I'd be a heavenly person today

Tequila Ranger posted:

I just pulled the trigger on the "Home Premium 3-Pack" upgrade, and now I am noticing, unlike the "Home Premium" (Single User) upgrade, it makes no mention of including both 32 and 64 bit versions (I want 64 bit). Am I screwed?

Also, if it does include the 64 bit version, I should have no license issues upgrading Win XP Pro SP2 (Oem) to Win 7 "Home Premium" 64, correct?

Edit: This is what I bought: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...rd_i=1286119011

I don't know if it comes with 64 bit discs, but you can use the same keys for 32 bit and 64 bit, and you can use an Upgrade edition to go from 32 bit XP to 64 bit 7. You have to do a clean install for XP to 7 anyway, so I imagine you don't much care that you have to do clean install for all 32 bit to 64 bit upgrades.

# ? Oct 20, 2009 20:56

Piano: Nov 10, 2007; The Gap

The cd keys aren't tied to 32/64 versions, just the actual edition. Not sure why everyone seems so terrified of just torrenting the 64 bit versions if they only have the 32. Just check the hash and it's literally the exact same thing.

# ? Oct 20, 2009 21:03

Lum: Aug 13, 2003

Honey Im Homme posted:

gently caress royal mail

My copy arrived today from PC World.

Sucessfully activated my already installed copy (Ultimate DVD, ei.cfg removed to let me install Pro) using the key inside the box (which I was able to extract without breaking the seal on top too!)

Yay for PC World's incompetence! Their email said it wouldn't ship until tomorrow and would take 5-7 days due to the strikes.

# ? Oct 20, 2009 21:44

Service Charge: Jan 22, 2004; I'm not cheap

Lum posted:

Yay for PC World's incompetence! Their email said it wouldn't ship until tomorrow and would take 5-7 days due to the strikes.

I must be missing something, namely how PC World mailing everyones preorders early in order to avoid the postal strikes makes them incompetant.

# ? Oct 20, 2009 21:49

Honey Im Homme: Sep 3, 2009

Lum posted:

My copy arrived today from PC World.

Sucessfully activated my already installed copy (Ultimate DVD, ei.cfg removed to let me install Pro) using the key inside the box (which I was able to extract without breaking the seal on top too!)

Yay for PC World's incompetence! Their email said it wouldn't ship until tomorrow and would take 5-7 days due to the strikes.

My copy from tesco direct hasn't even shipped yet, apparently the distributor is going to contact me to arrange postage, and it will ship on the 21st still.

# ? Oct 20, 2009 21:55

bull3964: Nov 18, 2000; DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.

It doesn't appear as though Newegg is shipping their pre-orders early so they arrive on street date as my order still has "preorder" status.

# ? Oct 20, 2009 22:13

Lum: Aug 13, 2003

Service Charge posted:

I must be missing something, namely how PC World mailing everyones preorders early in order to avoid the postal strikes makes them incompetant.

eMail I got from PC World yesterday posted:

PLEASE NOTE: If you have pre-ordered a copy of Windows 7 this will not
leave our warehouse any earlier than Wednesday 21st October (the day before
the official launch date). You should expect delivery to be 5-7 days after
this date.

# ? Oct 20, 2009 22:42

Mr. Clark2: Sep 17, 2003; Rocco sez: Oh man, what a bummer. Woof.

Is the RTM still available? If so, does anyone have a good download link? I'd like to give this new OS a shot before I drop the money on buying it. Thanks in advance.

# ? Oct 20, 2009 22:58

EVGA Longoria: Dec 25, 2005; Let's go exploring!

Mr. Clark2 posted:

Is the RTM still available? If so, does anyone have a good download link? I'd like to give this new OS a shot before I drop the money on buying it. Thanks in advance.

RTM = Release to manufacturing. It's the final retail version. You have to buy it to get it.

RC = Release Candidate, it's no longer legally available. You can torrent it and it's good till March.

# ? Oct 20, 2009 23:00

incoherent: Apr 24, 2004; 01010100011010000111001
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000110010101110010

Technet and MSDN subsribers: The Microsoft Desktop Optimization Pack has been updated and released for windows 7 support.

What does this mean? New version of DaRT!

http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/ne...rt-released.ars

# ? Oct 20, 2009 23:00

Mr. Clark2: Sep 17, 2003; Rocco sez: Oh man, what a bummer. Woof.

Casao posted:

RTM = Release to manufacturing. It's the final retail version. You have to buy it to get it.

RC = Release Candidate, it's no longer legally available. You can torrent it and it's good till March.

Thanks, there was a mistype in my prior post, I meant RC.

# ? Oct 20, 2009 23:08

Carecat: Apr 27, 2004

Irish Bandit posted:

I ordered Windows 7 from Amazon.co.uk using 1st class post and it has shipped tonight via DHL. I guess Amazon and/or Microsoft don't want the Royal Mail ruining the launch.

My first class shipped by City Link, I think so long as you didn't choose super saver they are using alternative methods.

# ? Oct 20, 2009 23:39

Kameleon: Jan 10, 2006; gay for johnny deLOL BAT COUNTRY

Honey Im Homme posted:

My copy from tesco direct hasn't even shipped yet, apparently the distributor is going to contact me to arrange postage, and it will ship on the 21st still.

Did Tesco Direct charge you when you ordered or are they charging you now? I sent them an email asking this but they never replied. I'd be a bit hosed if the money was coming out now, I don't have the bank statements from when I ordered either.

# ? Oct 21, 2009 00:25

jew$: Jul 29, 2004; IDIOT DITTOHEAD DOMAIN NAME SQUATTER

Just discovered thanks to following @MSWindows on Twitter, press the Windows key and any arrow key and just watch the awesomeness that unfolds.

Windows Key + Up = Maximize
Windows Key + Down = Minimize
Windows Key + Left = split and align with left hand side of the screen
Windows Key + Right = split and align with right hand side of the screen
Windows Key + Right + Right = Switching monitors (requires multiple monitors)
and visa versa....you'll figure it out.

# ? Oct 21, 2009 00:30

jammyozzy: Dec 7, 2006; Is that a challenge?

Lum posted:

My copy arrived today from PC World.

Sucessfully activated my already installed copy (Ultimate DVD, ei.cfg removed to let me install Pro) using the key inside the box (which I was able to extract without breaking the seal on top too!)

Yay for PC World's incompetence! Their email said it wouldn't ship until tomorrow and would take 5-7 days due to the strikes.

Ditto, except my copy arrived Monday morning for some reason. Still I'm not complaining, PC World have finally done something to redeem my impression of them.

# ? Oct 21, 2009 00:42

Jam2: Jan 15, 2008; With Energy For Mayhem

Well, guys. Two days til early-upgraders find out if we will get to go outside this weekend.

# ? Oct 21, 2009 00:42

scopophilia: Aug 11, 2004; Not a man to be trifled with.

I'm using Windows 7 Home Premium and I'm looking for an RDP solution. I used an ancient version of Radmin on my XP install forever and I loved it. It was super easy to use. Apparently the newest version supports Windows 7, but it's $50. I'm wondering if there's something cheaper that's just as good. Here's what I want:

Uses my current session, I don't want to have to set up another account
Not UltraVNC or TightVNC, too many options and is too complicated
Less than $50

# ? Oct 21, 2009 01:00

incoherent: Apr 24, 2004; 01010100011010000111001
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Logmein is free, but really laggy. Works over HTTP rather then RDP so if theres a firewall anywhere blocking it, you'll be safe.

# ? Oct 21, 2009 01:05

Lum: Aug 13, 2003

MSTSC.EXE?

# ? Oct 21, 2009 01:09

scopophilia: Aug 11, 2004; Not a man to be trifled with.

Lum posted:

MSTSC.EXE?

Home Premium doesn't have the server version. Also, I don't think it lets you log into a current user.

# ? Oct 21, 2009 01:22

Lum: Aug 13, 2003

scopophilia posted:

Home Premium doesn't have the server version. Also, I don't think it lets you log into a current user.

Did they remove that from 7? XP Home used to have it, in the form of "Remote Assistance" and it would let you log in as the current user, though the user at the console loses sight of their desktop during the process.

# ? Oct 21, 2009 01:25

Kilometers Davis: Jul 9, 2007; They begin again

How different is the Retail Windows 7 compared to the RTM?

# ? Oct 21, 2009 01:35

Thermopyle: Jul 1, 2003; "That which can be destroyed by the truth should be." Do not flinch from experiences that might destroy your beliefs. The thought you cannot think controls you more than thoughts you speak aloud.

IntoTheNihil posted:

How different is the Retail Windows 7 compared to the RTM?

Retail is the exact same thing as RTM. Look 14 posts before yours.

# ? Oct 21, 2009 01:36

Kilometers Davis: Jul 9, 2007; They begin again

Thermopyle posted:

Retail is the exact same thing as RTM. Look 14 posts before yours.

Ah, I guess I have the RC then...

Same question for that?

# ? Oct 21, 2009 01:38

Thermopyle: Jul 1, 2003; "That which can be destroyed by the truth should be." Do not flinch from experiences that might destroy your beliefs. The thought you cannot think controls you more than thoughts you speak aloud.

IntoTheNihil posted:

Ah, I guess I have the RC then...

Same question for that?

I haven't noticed any difference.

# ? Oct 21, 2009 01:40

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# ? May 26, 2013 04:25

Unlucky7: Jul 11, 2006; AG: Flyyyyyyyy!

I am currently downloading Windows 7 Professional 64-bit off of MSDNAA (Its good to be an ICS major, sometimes), and I am currently running Vista Home Professional 64-bit. The OP says that I should be able to do an Upgrade, but I am seeing some conflicting reports online.

Will I be able to do an upgrade install, or am I stuck with a clean install?

# ? Oct 21, 2009 01:42

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