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change my name
Aug 27, 2007

My anime is augmented.


bootleg robot posted:

Thank you so much for this, I have never thought to check out the toolbar menu since upgrading to Windows 7.

If you're watching a movie you can see a minimized version if you mouse over the taskbar too. I don't really know what the point is but still!!

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IT Guy
Jan 12, 2010

You people drink like you don't want to live!

change my name posted:

If you're watching a movie you can see a minimized version if you mouse over the taskbar too. I don't really know what the point is but still!!

I only watch movies this way

change my name
Aug 27, 2007

My anime is augmented.


IT Guy posted:

I only watch movies this way

You can watch it twice at the same time!! It's like retarded picture in picture

Drox
Aug 9, 2007

by Y Kant Ozma Post


change my name posted:

You can watch it twice at the same time!! It's like retarded picture in picture

Hey, why don't I have this yet? The best I can do (I think) is aero snap what I'm working on to one side and the movie to the other.

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006

THE CLAMPS!
or clamp like device


Drox posted:

Hey, why don't I have this yet? The best I can do (I think) is aero snap what I'm working on to one side and the movie to the other.

You just have the video open and then hover over its task bar icon. I think it only works if the video is open in the background, not if it is minimized. So you can have your browser open and then hover over the icon to see something interesting.

Echophonic
Sep 16, 2005

Kirby Gear Solid 3:
Snake Eater

Cojawfee posted:

You just have the video open and then hover over its task bar icon. I think it only works if the video is open in the background, not if it is minimized. So you can have your browser open and then hover over the icon to see something interesting.

Or even better, you can use OnTop Replica and just have a little always on top aero preview.

Drox
Aug 9, 2007

by Y Kant Ozma Post


Cojawfee posted:

You just have the video open and then hover over its task bar icon. I think it only works if the video is open in the background, not if it is minimized. So you can have your browser open and then hover over the icon to see something interesting.

I know that, but I often use the rest of my screen and mouse to do work with what I'm working on. A genuine pip function would be nice. Something that could be dragged around the screen and stays on top when it loses focus.

Drox
Aug 9, 2007

by Y Kant Ozma Post


Echophonic posted:

Or even better, you can use OnTop Replica and just have a little always on top aero preview.

Oh, wow. If this works in 7, it might be exactly what I want!

edit: It is! Thank you so much for linking this! It works beautifully!

Drox fucked around with this message at May 3, 2010 around 02:40

revolther
May 27, 2008


Not to be totally pedantic, but couldn't you use one of the tons of Always On Top apps like PowerMenu and resize the window? I mean that OnTopReplica had some features that put it above and beyond that(cropping windows area for one), but was this feature really that elusive?

iKickDogs
Aug 31, 2001



revolther posted:

Not to be totally pedantic, but couldn't you use one of the tons of Always On Top apps like PowerMenu and resize the window?

Or Windows Media Player with "Always show Now Playing on top" enabled?

EVGA Longoria
Dec 25, 2005

Let's go exploring!


Drox posted:

I know that, but I often use the rest of my screen and mouse to do work with what I'm working on. A genuine pip function would be nice. Something that could be dragged around the screen and stays on top when it loses focus.

You realize most Media Players have Always on Top, and MPC-HC has an "Always on top while playing" function that basically do exactly this?

Drox
Aug 9, 2007

by Y Kant Ozma Post


Ontopreplica has other features like transparency that make it stand out, too.

hobb
Sep 20, 2001


I'm wondering if someone can help me with a weird thing I've noticed about win 7's sound output. I've googled around but not found much info about my problem, but I may be wording it wrong so I have no idea.



Notice the grey and green bars. Green I'm assuming is the volume level as it should be, that grey bar I have no idea what it does, but when it hits the top of the Headphones volume level which is the main level of volume, instead of just preventing the level from going higher it decreases the volume by a noticeable amount. Why it does this I really don't know, and trying to find others with this issue is next to impossible it seems like. It doesn't matter what actually is running, if that grey volume bar tops out, it will lower whatever I'm listening to and its quite annoying. It's possible that the auto level occurs when the green bar hits the cap too, but I'm not sure. Actually that grey thing may be irrelevant, but I'm no audio person, as I've only seen it since moving to 7.

Fixes I've tried are fiddling with the individual levels, which helps, but doesn't resolve anything other than raise the threshold before it auto-levels. I'm using a creative x-fi and this never happened in win xp which I was running before switching to 7, so if this was a vista thing that I've managed to passover by all means point me to information.

Oh and I have the communications setting for decreasing volume set to 'do nothing' as well.

Factor Mystic
Mar 19, 2006

Baby's First Post-Apocalyptic Fiction

Green bar is sound volume as % of current volume (where the slider is). Gray bar is sound volume as % of the max potential volume (top of the vertical bar).

As to why it's auto leveling, it's because you have some kind of non default configuration. I see you're using headphones. Is there any sound-manager related software that came with them? Click the headphones icon, then the enhancement tab. Is anything checked on that list that sounds like it might be related to loudness/leveling?

chippy
Aug 16, 2006

OK I DON'T GET IT

hobb posted:

I'm wondering if someone can help me with a weird thing I've noticed about win 7's sound output. I've googled around but not found much info about my problem, but I may be wording it wrong so I have no idea.



Notice the grey and green bars. Green I'm assuming is the volume level as it should be, that grey bar I have no idea what it does, but when it hits the top of the Headphones volume level which is the main level of volume, instead of just preventing the level from going higher it decreases the volume by a noticeable amount. Why it does this I really don't know, and trying to find others with this issue is next to impossible it seems like. It doesn't matter what actually is running, if that grey volume bar tops out, it will lower whatever I'm listening to and its quite annoying. It's possible that the auto level occurs when the green bar hits the cap too, but I'm not sure. Actually that grey thing may be irrelevant, but I'm no audio person, as I've only seen it since moving to 7.

Fixes I've tried are fiddling with the individual levels, which helps, but doesn't resolve anything other than raise the threshold before it auto-levels. I'm using a creative x-fi and this never happened in win xp which I was running before switching to 7, so if this was a vista thing that I've managed to passover by all means point me to information.

Oh and I have the communications setting for decreasing volume set to 'do nothing' as well.


I was fiddling with this the other day - as far as I can tell the green bar is the actual volume and the grey bar is the "real" volume, i.e. what it would be if you had it at 100%.

100% of that bar is as loud as digital audio can go. All bits are 1's. This is known as digital full scale. If you try and boost digital audio any further than this you get clipping. So, my guess is that you are getting clipping (are you using a media player like VLC that has a volume slider that goes over 100%?) and either Windows or your X-Fi drivers is detecting this, and stepping in to prevent it by turning down the gain.


e: Just recognised the icon, that's Foobar isn't it, which has that ability. I'd try turning your gain/volume control down in Foobar a bit mate.

chippy fucked around with this message at May 4, 2010 around 14:59

mobn
May 23, 2005

by Ozmaugh


chippy posted:

I was fiddling with this the other day - as far as I can tell the green bar is the actual volume and the grey bar is the "real" volume, i.e. what it would be if you had it at 100%.

100% of that bar is as loud as digital audio can go. All bits are 1's. This is known as digital full scale. If you try and boost digital audio any further than this you get clipping. So, my guess is that you are getting clipping (are you using a media player like VLC that has a volume slider that goes over 100%?) and either Windows or your X-Fi drivers is detecting this, and stepping in to prevent it by turning down the gain.


e: Just recognised the icon, that's Foobar isn't it, which has that ability. I'd try turning your gain/volume control down in Foobar a bit mate.

Wait, explain this to me more. How can loudness be restricted by the fact that it's digital or analog? Regardless of the format, all you have to do to make it louder is make the speakers vibrate harder.

EVGA Longoria
Dec 25, 2005

Let's go exploring!


mobn posted:

Wait, explain this to me more. How can loudness be restricted by the fact that it's digital or analog? Regardless of the format, all you have to do to make it louder is make the speakers vibrate harder.

Digital audio isn't quite like that in that it's passed on a digital format and a decoder puts it back to sound waves. It uses what amounts to a volume level to do this, which obviously has a cap. If your encoder is sending "100% volume", the decoder will put it at what it's set for maximum volume, and nothing from the encode can make it go any louder.

Of course, he's wrong about clipping being related to digital scale.

chippy
Aug 16, 2006

OK I DON'T GET IT

mobn posted:

Wait, explain this to me more. How can loudness be restricted by the fact that it's digital or analog? Regardless of the format, all you have to do to make it louder is make the speakers vibrate harder.

The analogue signal at the end can always by boosted, yes, by turning your amp up higher. While it's in a digital form there is a limit. Each sample can only be represented by a fixed and finite number of bits. Once all these bits are 1's (simply put), this is digital full scale (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_full_scale). There's nowhere else you can go from there.

Casao, what was I wrong about? I'd like to know, for my own education. Wiki says this:

quote:

Once a signal has reached full scale all headroom has been utilized, and any further increase in amplitude results in an error known as clipping.

p.s. I'm not saying clipping *can't* occur with a digital signal, it's just that you tend to get distortion with analogue and it can even be a desired effect, and it has overall a different character of sound to clipping of a digital signal.

For some examples of clipped waveforms, have a look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loudness_war, the images half way down the page.

chippy fucked around with this message at May 4, 2010 around 16:36

EVGA Longoria
Dec 25, 2005

Let's go exploring!


chippy posted:

The analogue signal at the end can always by boosted, yes, by turning your amp up higher. While it's in a digital form there is a limit. Once you're using all 1's (simply put) to represent your sample which has a limited bit-depth, this is digital full scale (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_full_scale). There's nowhere else you can go from there.

Casao, what was I wrong about? I'd like to know, for my own education. Wiki says this:


p.s. I'm not saying clipping *can't* occur with a digital signal, it's just that you tend to get distortion and it has overall a different character of sound to clipping of a digital signal.

For some examples of clipped waveforms, have a look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loudness_war, the images half way down the page.

Clipping is real, but it's related to sound volume in general, not anything about digital scale. It's caused by trying to push more sound than it can supply. Going to max volume on the digital scale is clipping, but it's the max volume part that does it, not the digital scale, which is what your post seemed to imply.

chippy
Aug 16, 2006

OK I DON'T GET IT

My bad, poor choice of wording on my part then. My point was just that when talking in terms of digital audio you can't go past full scale without getting clipping. I'm aware an analogue signal can suffer clipping as well.

rolleyes
Nov 16, 2006

Sometimes you have to roll the hard... two?

Kegwen posted:

Has anyone heard of a fix for this obnoxious cursor corruption issue that comes with dual monitors? It seems to be related to ATI's drivers, but even the latest beta version doesn't fix it. The latest software from Logitech didn't really help, either.

It's at least a year old, as evidenced by this. Some in that thread suggest it even affected Windows XP: http://social.technet.microsoft.com...35-014531664e0d

I know turning on mouse trails fixes it, but they're pretty obnoxious and sometimes cause the cursor to not render at all in 3D accelerated games. If nothing else, is there a way to make it so that the cursor works properly in 3D applications with minimum trails enabled? This bug is really aggravating.

I know this is from a couple of pages back but something similar happened to me so I'd like to share how I fixed it: BIOS update. Seriously.

There was some kind of weird conflict between my Gigabyte board's BIOS and my ATI 4890. The board was a very new release (an i5 board just after the platform launched) so I chalked it up to teething problems with the new chipset etc, although I'm still not sure how exactly the BIOS managed to cause what I was experiencing. The cursor would randomly change to double-size and some flash videos would crash the display driver, but only on specific sites. It was absolutely infuriating.

EvilMuppet
Jul 28, 2006

Bork Bork Bork

Are there any win7 equivalents foe Powermenu (http://www.abstractpath.com/powermenu/) and TweakUI?

Iblys
Sep 23, 2003

gay for iBag....i mean, disconnect and self-destruct one bullet at a time...

My Windows 7 install sometimes reboots itself when I leave it torrenting overnight. I had this problem on my last PC with XP but doing a BIOS upgrade fixed it (it kept incorrectly detecting that it was overheating). So I did a BIOS upgrade here and it didn't fix it.

I've just got automatic updates on, got the latest drivers for everything... anyone got any ideas?

Jensen
Jun 4, 2006


Iblys posted:

My Windows 7 install sometimes reboots itself when I leave it torrenting overnight. I had this problem on my last PC with XP but doing a BIOS upgrade fixed it (it kept incorrectly detecting that it was overheating). So I did a BIOS upgrade here and it didn't fix it.

I've just got automatic updates on, got the latest drivers for everything... anyone got any ideas?

Is it rebooting to install the automatic updates? Check the event log.

revolther
May 27, 2008


EvilMuppet posted:

Are there any win7 equivalents foe Powermenu (http://www.abstractpath.com/powermenu/) and TweakUI?
Powermenu works just fine in Windows 7, either right click the taskbar preview or the top left corner of the window if an application is giving you problems(Google Chrome sometimes for me). TweakUI is basically put to shame by our own Xenomorph's XDN Tweaker.

mobn
May 23, 2005

by Ozmaugh


Whenever I restart my computer, half my icons end up moved to the left side of the screen, and their bottom left corners are replaced with a black box. Xenomorph's rebuild icons script fixes the latter, but the former is a problem and it makes updating very annoying.

Xenomorph
Jun 13, 2001


mobn posted:

Whenever I restart my computer, half my icons end up moved to the left side of the screen, and their bottom left corners are replaced with a black box. Xenomorph's rebuild icons script fixes the latter, but the former is a problem and it makes updating very annoying.

Did you change Shortcut arrows by any chance?

hobb
Sep 20, 2001


chippy posted:

I was fiddling with this the other day - as far as I can tell the green bar is the actual volume and the grey bar is the "real" volume, i.e. what it would be if you had it at 100%.

100% of that bar is as loud as digital audio can go. All bits are 1's. This is known as digital full scale. If you try and boost digital audio any further than this you get clipping. So, my guess is that you are getting clipping (are you using a media player like VLC that has a volume slider that goes over 100%?) and either Windows or your X-Fi drivers is detecting this, and stepping in to prevent it by turning down the gain.


e: Just recognised the icon, that's Foobar isn't it, which has that ability. I'd try turning your gain/volume control down in Foobar a bit mate.

Turning down the volume in foobar itself and raising up the win 7 volume mixer level for foobar to max seems to help a bit, doesn't make it behave like xp used to, but better than before. Of all the acclimation situations I sure didn't anticipate volume to be one of them.

mobn
May 23, 2005

by Ozmaugh


Xenomorph posted:

Did you change Shortcut arrows by any chance?

No. I was wrong, it's not a black box. The bottom left quarter of all the icons becomes transparent. It's just gone. I'll try to get a picture on my next reboot.

skywalker6705
Mar 16, 2006

"I can't fit my meat into my new shorts!"

IT Guy posted:

I just now discovered an amazing feature on Windows 7.





Winamp has a nice plugin to enable this functionality. Really customizable too.

revolther
May 27, 2008


That's kind of lovely looking, you'd think Winamp would be quick to support Windows standards as it's "The Ultimate Media Player" for Windows.

Heh, their site lists it as Windows 7 compliant, kinda disappointing when foobar has done it since Vista.

Iblys
Sep 23, 2003

gay for iBag....i mean, disconnect and self-destruct one bullet at a time...

Jensen posted:

Is it rebooting to install the automatic updates? Check the event log.

Nope. It says it has restarted after an unexpected shutdown.

chippy
Aug 16, 2006

OK I DON'T GET IT

hobb posted:

Turning down the volume in foobar itself and raising up the win 7 volume mixer level for foobar to max seems to help a bit, doesn't make it behave like xp used to, but better than before. Of all the acclimation situations I sure didn't anticipate volume to be one of them.

I just had a go at this by cranking VLC to 200% with a CD playing that was a whisker off full scale to start with, and couldn't reproduce this behaviour (x64 Ultimate), so it might be your X-Fi drivers. Or maybe VLC has it's own limiter, who knows.

edit: I have a couple more sound devices in my computer so I tried those too just in case and couldn't see it.

chippy fucked around with this message at May 5, 2010 around 22:53

Sweeper
Nov 28, 2007

oh man, my posting...



Sprat Sandwich posted:

The Zune software's toolbar when minimized is even nicer.



I love this feature, and for those who don't know iTunes does this also, but no one seems to know about it...

syscall girl
Nov 6, 2009

you want me to don't ya? get out?

skywalker6705 posted:



Winamp has a nice plugin to enable this functionality. Really customizable too.

I'd say go bite a llama's rear end, but Winamp (which I use to this day out of some sort of twisted loyalty to the first mp3 player I knew) kinda isn't that great, and it sure ain't pretty.

skywalker6705
Mar 16, 2006

"I can't fit my meat into my new shorts!"

revolther posted:

That's kind of lovely looking, you'd think Winamp would be quick to support Windows standards as it's "The Ultimate Media Player" for Windows.

Heh, their site lists it as Windows 7 compliant, kinda disappointing when foobar has done it since Vista.

Well, I customized it to match the box size to the text and not the album art, since I'm lazy and don't have album art for most of my music. Again, really customizable, all of those buttons can be turned on/off, it has a optional track position marker, etc. You can choose the font styles, etc. So unless you just adamantly hate the functionality, just hate my personal aesthetics instead.

JustFrakkingDoIt posted:

I'd say go bite a llama's rear end, but Winamp (which I use to this day out of some sort of twisted loyalty to the first mp3 player I knew) kinda isn't that great, and it sure ain't pretty.

You know, I still use it too mostly because of the extensibility with skins and plugins and all that. I used to use it for video as well (it's the same as anything else, uses directshow), but that became a nightmare on Windows 7, so I've been using MPC since then. I like their whole serise of cPro skins, and use cpro_insomnis right now. I mean, I like that foobar is customizable, but everything I see about it makes it look like the audio equivalent to Miranda IM.

Number_6
Jul 23, 2006

BAN ALL GAS GUZZLERS

(except for mine)


Iblys posted:

Nope. It says it has restarted after an unexpected shutdown.

I don't know if it will really help, but I'm curious what your CPU and motherboard are. I had odd system reboots with my i7 860/Gigabyte P55 combination, but only in one particular game. Disabling C3/C6/C7 support in the BIOS seemed to fix it.

Fawkes
Apr 6, 2004



JustFrakkingDoIt posted:

I'd say go bite a llama's rear end, but Winamp (which I use to this day out of some sort of twisted loyalty to the first mp3 player I knew) kinda isn't that great, and it sure ain't pretty.

I can't get away from Winamp because Windows Media Player and Zune don't have cross-fading for some unexplainable reason.

Unless someone knows something I don't.

Iblys
Sep 23, 2003

gay for iBag....i mean, disconnect and self-destruct one bullet at a time...

Number_6 posted:

I don't know if it will really help, but I'm curious what your CPU and motherboard are. I had odd system reboots with my i7 860/Gigabyte P55 combination, but only in one particular game. Disabling C3/C6/C7 support in the BIOS seemed to fix it.

Thanks for the suggestion.

Gigabyte P35C-DS3R motherboard
Intel Q6600 quad-core

What's this c3/c6/c7 that you speak of? If I disable it, what are the adverse effects?

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bloodysabbath
May 1, 2004
Number One In The Hood, G



Quick question from a mac user.

Short Version:

-I have two Macs, one running Tiger and one running Snow Leopard.
-I want to run a Windows 7 Professional upgrade installer on each, through Parallels. I have XP if I have to install it as an in-between.
-Is there anything else I need to be aware of before I do this? Will it work?

Long Version:

Is it possible to install the downloadable Windows 7 Professional upgrade under Parallels for Mac? I do not care about having to reinstall programs or settings, since I'd be starting fresh on two machines.

Do I *have* to have a previous installation of XP to upgrade?

The method I've seen everyone suggest is to run the installer in parallels, install as a trial, then run it again as an upgrade. Apparently it will lock up parallels for hours and reboot several times, but then it will take your key and you'll be set.

Anyone care to confirm or deny this? My school is selling dirt cheap copies of Win7, but even at ~60 a pop, I'd like to make sure this isn't going to bite me in the rear end since I'm an Apple user.

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