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chizad posted:Those of us who know a little bit about how all this works definitely can't justify blaming MS for third-party developers being lazy. But I can definitely understand how the average PC user would think "This worked in XP, and now it doesn't in Vista. Fuckin' Microsoft!" and blame them for it. Still sucks that MS got blamed and Vista got a tarnished image (although not just because of this) for things that weren't their fault. I think the lesson for Microsoft is the next time they change their driver model, only release a business OS the first round. XP is to 7 as Windows 2000 is to Vista. The only difference is, early driver support was about 10 billion times worse for Windows 2000 and they only aimed Windows 2000 at business users. I won a copy of Windows 2000 from Microsoft and got it about a week before general release. It was more or less unusable for a year on a brand new computer I built due to the driver situation. Video card? Sorry, no 3d acceleration. Audio? HAHAHAHAHAHAH, not unless you have a card that's included in the base drivers. Printers? Only if you have a business laser printer. Contrast this to Vista which I was using just fine from day one with nearly all of my hardware supported out of the gate with pretty much all the features. It was a cakewalk compared to 2000 early on and XP has the 2 year lead of 2000 to thank for it's support at launch. Even then, XP was more or less poo poo till SP3.
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Liquid Penguins posted:So far trying to get windows 7 to work has been a frustrating nightmare. I did the student upgrade deal. The download manager tripped my school's resnet up and was rate-capped at 56k. It took 9 hours to download. Now that I have the files, none of which are a loving iso, they won't extract. The exe crashes with "Unloading the Box: An error was encountered. Unspecified error." every single time. I redownloaded it overnight and am still getting the same error. I tried this but it doesn't work either. I really have no idea how to proceed and would honestly just like a refund so I can use the MSDN copy I have already, but Digital River doesn't give any refunds. I had the same problem and there's no fix for it yet apparently, so I just downloaded the .iso from some torrent and went from there. I'm still not done installing though... accidentally installed the Ultimate version first so I had to use this trick http://www.unawave.de/installation/downgrade-en.html?lang=EN to "re-upgrade" to Professional :/
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bull3964 posted:I think the lesson for Microsoft is the next time they change their driver model, only release a business OS the first round. If Microsoft released their OS for business then no business would buy it and no hardware manufacturer would develop drivers for it since it wouldn't have mass consumer distribution. Look at Windows XP 64bit as an example of this. XP was fine in the beginning, decent security without a 3rd party Firewall came in SP2, and SP3 was just a hotfix package.
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New Home Premium install, fresh from about 20 minutes ago. Looking great so far! Does anyone happen to have the Winfox installer lying around on their machine they could throw up on Rapidshare or something? The official download website appears to be down (404) and I'd like jump list functionality on my Firefox. 
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Oct 23, 2009 23:35
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Quick question. How do I pin a folder shortcut, so it shows as pinned when I right click the explorer shortcut? Edit: nevermind, just gotta drag it!
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Oct 23, 2009 23:45
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chizad posted:Those of us who know a little bit about how all this works definitely can't justify blaming MS for third-party developers being lazy. But I can definitely understand how the average PC user would think "This worked in XP, and now it doesn't in Vista. Fuckin' Microsoft!" and blame them for it. Still sucks that MS got blamed and Vista got a tarnished image (although not just because of this) for things that weren't their fault. Yeah pretty much. Although I never said that I blame Microsoft, since I have very little clue how these things work. As someone who isn't very technically-minded, it doesn't make me feel better to know that Vista's problems were largely someone else's fault. All I can say is that when I first upgraded to Vista, a lot of things didn't work properly (esp. a few specialised business and educational software) and I had to go back to XP. But with Windows 7, they work perfectly fine. Regardless of the reason, it doesn't change the fact that the we as average end-users experience a much better upgrade even if it is years later. I guess if I knew how important those SP's are then I would've waited for Vista to get its fixes, but at least that taught me to do thorough research and ask people who've tried the beta first.
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mezz posted:I had the same problem and there's no fix for it yet apparently, so I just downloaded the .iso from some torrent and went from there. I'm still not done installing though... accidentally installed the Ultimate version first so I had to use this trick http://www.unawave.de/installation/downgrade-en.html?lang=EN to "re-upgrade" to Professional :/ Yeah, I can't torrent it because p2p is blocked on campus, plus the legality of that is questionable at best. Is there seriously no solution or even an acknowledgment of the problem from microsoft?
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Ugh, I don't like that Explorer opens straight to the Libraries - I know where I keep my porn dammit, just open to the drives display! May come to use libraries, but in the short term how can I just open a Vista style explorer? vvvv Thanks TiltedAtWindmills/WebDog dirtyfrog fucked around with this message at 00:28 on Oct 24, 2009 |
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Oct 24, 2009 00:18
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You can pin your porn folder to explorer.
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Oct 24, 2009 00:22
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WebDog posted:You can make the explorer icon simply go to Computer by right clicking on it in the taskbar to open it, then right click on "Windows Explorer" and go into properties. Posted earlier in the thread. (Thanks for this by the way.)
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Oct 24, 2009 00:24
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Here's my plan: I have a new solid state hdd on its way that hasn't arrived yet. I have a retail copy of Win7 home premium upgrade here and I want to install it this weekend on my current hdd and image the install partition over to the SSD when it arrives. Will this muck around with the install/activation/licensing at all? The last time I imaged a partition to another drive was using Norton Ghost about 7 years ago so I'm not too sure what the deal is these days. Any recommended programs for imaging that I could use that are better than ghost (preferably free)? EDIT: I should have added that the only hardware I will be changing is hard drives. I am doing some hard drive shuffling between this PC and my HTPC. Vidaeus fucked around with this message at 01:10 on Oct 24, 2009 |
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Oct 24, 2009 01:08
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Does anyone know how easy it is to do an in-place upgrade from Windows 7 Pro to 7 Ultimate? I am a college student and a retail-store slave which gives me access to a bunch of free/cheap Win7 keys. I have a 7 Pro key now but will be getting a 7 Ultimate key in a few weeks. I'd like to install Pro now and just "unlock" Ultimate when I get the key, but I don't know if it's easily accomplished. I know Ultimate is not leaps and bounds better than Pro, but still, if I have the key why not use it.
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Oct 24, 2009 01:27
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I'm having a weird issues regarding ram and win 7 x64. I had 4 gigs (4 one gig sticks) installed with xp pro 32-bit (I know it could only see 3). I went to try and do a clean install with my win 7 x64 upgrade disc - no dice. Setup.exe wouldn't run booting from the disc. Poking around online, I saw people with the same issue had success removing half of their ram. I removed two of my sticks and tried again and everything worked fine. I shut down after a successful win 7 install and popped my two other sticks back in. Upon starting up with 4 gigs everything took forever. Startup took 5 minutes, the os ran like garbage - slow down, cursor jumping, ect. So I removed two sticks again and everything went back to normal. Anyone have any ideas as to why this is happening?
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Oct 24, 2009 02:00
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Cartwright posted:I'm having a weird issues regarding ram and win 7 x64. I had 4 gigs (4 one gig sticks) installed with xp pro 32-bit (I know it could only see 3). I went to try and do a clean install with my win 7 x64 upgrade disc - no dice. Setup.exe wouldn't run booting from the disc. Update your BIOS, a lot of boards I've seen from a year or two back have run like crap with 4GB+ until a bios update.
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Oct 24, 2009 02:01
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corb01772 posted:Does anyone know how easy it is to do an in-place upgrade from Windows 7 Pro to 7 Ultimate? I am a college student and a retail-store slave which gives me access to a bunch of free/cheap Win7 keys. I have a 7 Pro key now but will be getting a 7 Ultimate key in a few weeks. I'd like to install Pro now and just "unlock" Ultimate when I get the key, but I don't know if it's easily accomplished. I know Ultimate is not leaps and bounds better than Pro, but still, if I have the key why not use it. Just grab a torrent of ultimate and install that, enter the key when you get it.
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Oct 24, 2009 02:02
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Any reason why Internet TV isn't showing up for me?
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Oct 24, 2009 02:08
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Have you seen my apex seals? I seem to have lost them.
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Aeka 2.0 posted:Any reason why Internet TV isn't showing up for me?
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Oct 24, 2009 02:10
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Yaos posted:Mine was missing as well, I just tried to start it to go look and it showed up. Maybe after I did Windows update and restarted? I'm on Home Premium. Yeah I've done all the updates and restarted. I'll try restarting again. edit: still nothin' Aeka 2.0 fucked around with this message at 02:18 on Oct 24, 2009 |
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I upgraded to 7 this evening. Apart from a bad disk causing me issues (the install disk managed to wipe my partition, but not to check that it was complete, and so it failed half way though install, leaving me OSless), it was quite smooth. I like the new taskbar, and it seems snappier than vista (although that's probably mostly due to the lack of 9 months of crud). I upgraded to 64 bit. I ran 64 bit Vista briefly about a year ago, but general unstableness (and a little Genuine Advantage trouble) lead me to go back to the version that came with my laptop. Hopefully 7 won't have any problems (no Genuine Advantage problems this time - I love MSDNAA!). That ninite.com website linked earlier is fantastic! It had about 3/4 of my frequently used software. I selected what I wanted, clicked download, ran the installer and a reboot later (installed avast) and I had about 10 programs that would've taken much longer to install individually. Certainly a malware danger there, but I haven't had any issues.
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leo_r posted:That ninite.com website linked earlier is fantastic! It had about 3/4 of my frequently used software. I selected what I wanted, clicked download, ran the installer and a reboot later (installed avast) and I had about 10 programs that would've taken much longer to install individually. Certainly a malware danger there, but I haven't had any issues. Seconding. Ninite owns, I made a list of like 10 programs, went to eat and it was done when I came back and I didn't even need to reboot. Good deal.
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Aeka 2.0 posted:Yeah I've done all the updates and restarted. I'll try restarting again. Parachute Underwear posted:Seconding. Ninite owns, I made a list of like 10 programs, went to eat and it was done when I came back and I didn't even need to reboot. Good deal. Edit: Specifically I started Media Center and found there was no Internet TV option. I assumed it was something only in Ultimate or something so I did not poke around. After that I ran the updates, ran the Windows experience index things, screwed around with my resolution for a while and restarted after my mouse cursor got huge. Ater I saw you asking about Internet TV I started media center again and it asked to put an Internet TV gadget on my desktop. It started out by downloading updates for Internet TV, it may be downloading stuff in the background and not saying anything before it shows up. I also understand it's locked by country or something, if you're in the US you should be getting stuff though. Edit 2: I just noticed it also added a "Sports" section as well, and in the Internet TV portion the show summaries are cut off after two lines. What's going on here? Yaos fucked around with this message at 02:38 on Oct 24, 2009 |
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Oct 24, 2009 02:22
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Yaos posted:You're not missing anything if you did not get 7 just for Internet TV. Everything on there can be gotten on Hulu, Netflix, or the channels website. There's no HD content in Netflix like you can get on the 360 or the players either. That's not the point, the point is it should be there and I'd like to know why it isn't.
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Aeka 2.0 posted:That's not the point, the point is it should be there and I'd like to know why it isn't. I just mucked about with it, the options aren't there now that I configured it but in the Settings menu there was an option someplace to set up my internet connection and now there is internet TV.
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jeeves posted:- Changing the login screen background. http://www.withinwindows.com/2009/03/15/windows-7-to-officially-support-logon-ui-background-customization/ I do wish there was a way to make it mirror your desktop wallpaper. jeeves posted:- Changing what I want on the templates for the "new ->" submenu on a right click menu. I can't seem to find anything that does this yet. My guess is like before it's located deep inside some registry entry. jeeves posted:- Auto play handlers. Yup, just go to Start, type in Autoplay and you will have the option to change the settings. This app is quite handy. Ultimate Windows Tweaker is pretty much Tweak UI for 7/Vista. I generally use it to set my borders to 0 on my window's edges.  http://www.thewindowsclub.com/downloads/UWTv2.0.zip quote:Ctrl-Shift-N = New folder.
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Shugojin posted:I just mucked about with it, the options aren't there now that I configured it but in the Settings menu there was an option someplace to set up my internet connection and now there is internet TV. yeah I setup the internet connection and it still isn't showing up. I wonder if this has anything to do with the internet to the house. I'm at the In-laws for a week so I decided to bring my rig. They seem to have a 3mb connection and I would imagine that should be enough. edit: ok there was an option to download updates in MC. That fixed it for who cares. Aeka 2.0 fucked around with this message at 02:57 on Oct 24, 2009 |
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the posted:In case anyone was wondering, the answer to the question I was asking a few pages ago "What is the install size of Windows 7 professional?" is 10.5 GB. I had a problem with 7, both the RC and the RTM, taking 15 minutes to shut down, restart :o Turns out it was my M-Audio Delta 66 audio card. I found a fix that involves putting a .bat file somewhere, then triggering it via a logoff script. http://forums.m-audio.com/showthread.php?t=7166 <- Where I found it. I know this might not help your specific problem, but it might help give you a direction to start looking, ie. any unusual or older hardware with older drivers that might need special treatment.
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Anyone else having the same inability to do a boot install from the disc?  I've gone into my BIOS and set CDROM as the top boot priority. It gets to the black screen with white text that states "Boot from CD/DVD.." at the bottom, followed by a blinking cursor. 5 seconds later it passes that screen and continues to boot up my computer like regular. As far as I remember - it's supposed to prompt me with a 'Press any key to boot from CD/DVD', as it has with every other format/install i've done of a Windows OS.
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There's an "Automatic Download" setting in Media Center, did you try the download button in there? I've had my first crash I think. The screen went black while I was using the computer, I hit the power button on my system and then tried the reset button a few times and then the computer shut down. I played the whole way through Crysis Warhead under Vista on the same hardware.  Blood fart posted:Anyone else having the same inability to do a boot install from the disc? My brand new motherboard will use my USB keyboard fine in the BIOS, and the POST screen, but it won't let me use it in the boot menu or when the Boot from cd/dvd prompt comes up. I had to hook up a PS/2 keyboard. It's 2009, what the hell is this? Yaos fucked around with this message at 03:03 on Oct 24, 2009 |
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Yaos posted:My brand new motherboard will use my USB keyboard fine in the BIOS, and the POST screen, but it won't let me use it in the boot menu or when the Boot from cd/dvd prompt comes up. I had to hook up a PS/2 keyboard. It's 2009, what the hell is this? Somewhere in your bios there could be a setting that allows USB devices on boot. I've got that issue on mine, it's off by default.
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Crap. I encrypted a few text files on my portable HD using the built-in Windows encryption feature, and exported a certificate/decryption key for it. A few days later, I had to reinstall Win7 on my main HD. Now I can't decrypt the files, even after applying the certificate. Help?
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Blood fart posted:Anyone else having the same inability to do a boot install from the disc? I had a similar issue but I couldn't boot from USB. What's weird is my solution was to boot from my DVD drive. Have you tried smashing F8 (i believe it varies by mobo but in most cases it's F8) to get into the Boot Menu during POST? Try and do that and choose your CD drive and see if it gives you the same crap. Or maybe try removing all of the other boot devices except your CD/DVD drive.
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Is anyone else getting some really lovely performance with VLC Media player? I know it uses its native codecs and all that, but regardless of what I play, every edge looks rough and the detail is horrible. It looks like I'm watching an 80s television set where you can see all of the vertical lines.
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Cizzo posted:I had a similar issue but I couldn't boot from USB. What's weird is my solution was to boot from my DVD drive. Have you tried smashing F8 (i believe it varies by mobo but in most cases it's F8) to get into the Boot Menu during POST? Try and do that and choose your CD drive and see if it gives you the same crap. Or maybe try removing all of the other boot devices except your CD/DVD drive. Yeah, I've had to this before on Windows 7 and Vista installs. Hit the boot menu (check your manual for the button) and select DVD drive.
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Cizzo posted:I had a similar issue but I couldn't boot from USB. What's weird is my solution was to boot from my DVD drive. Have you tried smashing F8 (i believe it varies by mobo but in most cases it's F8) to get into the Boot Menu during POST? Try and do that and choose your CD drive and see if it gives you the same crap. Or maybe try removing all of the other boot devices except your CD/DVD drive. Neither is working still.
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Yaos posted:
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Just to update about my order through MS, I recently got this email.Mircosoft Store posted:We wanted to let you know that we are shipping your order on time. A buddy of mine and a fellow goon that PM'ed me, have not got their confirmation emails yet. Looks like they are lagging right now.
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Magnificent Quiver posted:Turn on USB Legacy Support in the BIOS
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Footboy posted:just in case Creative gets their heads out of their asses aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahhahahahahahha EDIT: Does ninite let you choose what drive or folders it installs everything to? I keep Windows+drivers on a seperate partition from apps
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Yaos posted:All the USB options are on, including the USB Legacy option, it must be my keyboard acting up for some reason. Well you can try turning USB Legacy off then But yeah it sounds like your keyboard is messed up
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jeeves posted:- Auto play handlers. Changing is built into the Control Panel. For removing/adding your own there is Default Programs Editor 
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