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Runcible Cat
May 28, 2007

A dog? Never!!

Radio Talmudist posted:

I'm reposting this from a separate topic I made in the forum, not realizing that there was a topic already devoted to recommendations:

I just finished gorging myself upon the 70 or so official Sherlock Holmes stories. My thirst for mystery is not yet satisfied, however, and I'm looking for another hefty mystery novel or collection of mystery stories to occupy my time. I'm not sure what I'm looking for more - extraordinary conundrums, unique, colorful detectives or vibrant historical settings. All three brought me to Sherlock Holmes in the first place. Psychological mind-benders are also welcome.

How is Agatha Christie? Is she actually a good mystery writer?
No. :braces self: She's occasionally amusing, to be fair (I particularly love The Big Four, which is basically Poirot vs pastiche criminal Illuminati), but overall don't bother.

There's a really good (and old) series of collections called The Rivals of Sherlock Holmes by Hugh Greene that should be dead easy to get hold of and collect detective stories from ACD's contemporaries - plenty of weird and gimmicky crimes and detectives in those.

If you like conundrums go for John Dickson Carr (aka Carter Dickson)'s books, his Gideon Fell books are full of locked-room mysteries and how-did-he-do-that? stuff. Ditto GK Chesterton's Father Brown stories.

More eccentric detectives: Edmund Crispin's Gervase Fen books - [b]The Glimpses of the Moon[b] is my favourite, and has a wonderfully lunatic supporting cast as well; and Gladys Mitchell has a wonderful mad-old-bat heroine in her Mrs Bradley mysteries - Mrs Bradley is an elderly, ugly and terrifying consulting psychiatrist who enjoys scaring the crap out of people. She's the kind of old lady I want to grow into. (These were filmed with Diana Rigg in the starring role, who is a terrific actress and looks amazing in 20s fashions but was terribly miscast.)

Sarah Caudwell wrote 4 books about a firm of lawyers and their old tutor who keep getting themselves into ridiculous situations involving murders - eccentric, funny and recommended.

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Archyduke
Jul 18, 2006

Je suis la jeune fille.


Epée posted:

I have recently read Oryx and Crake and Never Let Me Go by Margaret Atwood and Kazuo Ishiguro, respectively, enjoyed both immensely.

Any other good sugestions of well written sci-fi books by generally non sci-fi authors such as the two above?

"A Canticle For Liebowitz" is one of the few straight science fiction books I really enjoy, and I think it could definitely hold its own with the two books you mentioned. Also check out "Bear v. Shark" by Chris Bachelder. There are some sci-fi elements but they aren't the crux of the book in anything like a dorky or overbearing way. "Time's Arrow" by Martin Amis, definitely, and maybe some of Jonathan Lethem or Michael Chabon's more fantastic material- "As She Climbs Across the Table" and "The Yiddish Policeman's Union" might be good places to start, although Lethem's short story collection "Men & Cartoons" has some bearable science fiction pieces in it.

Oh, how about "Cold Comfort Farm"? Hysterical comedy of manners, but also set in the future (well, 1946), which a lot of people don't realize. G.K. Chesterton's "The Ball and the Cross" gets pretty out-there, culminating in an air-ship ride with Satan, and Voltaire wrote one of the first and funniest science fiction novellas I've ever read, "Micromegas". Is it fair to call Italo Calvino's "Cosmicomics" science fiction? I don't know, but any pretense to read it is probably for the best.

Hope some of these help-- I don't read/know much about genre fiction in general, but I can vouch for all of these individual books as phenomenal.

Edit: Oh and at the risk of sounding like a broken record, "Infinite Jest". Lots of interesting near-future stuff to chew on if that's your thing.

BoyBlunder
Sep 16, 2008


recently i picked up and drilled through the entire dresden series set (first sci-fi series i really enjoyed). i'm looking for pretty much the same thing (urban setting, fantasy, etc), but amazon seems like a convoluted mess, so i'm turning to you guys.

what else is out there that's like Jim Butcher's The Dresden Files?

Aero737
Apr 30, 2006


Does anyone have any suggestions for some sort of a survival novel? As a kid, I loved reading Hatchet, and I've been addicted to shows like Survivor man and I love the outdoors/camping. I would love to read some fiction sort of dealing with the subject.

TraderStav
May 19, 2006
At least that dreadful man has gone. For now.


Aero737 posted:

Does anyone have any suggestions for some sort of a survival novel? As a kid, I loved reading Hatchet, and I've been addicted to shows like Survivor man and I love the outdoors/camping. I would love to read some fiction sort of dealing with the subject.

An extremely entertaining non-fiction read is Emergency by Neil Strauss. Essentially a journalists 'journey' to learn how to be a survivalist and his political views as to why. If you're looking for a polished survivalist though this is not the way to go, but great book nonetheless.

CliffyBMine!
Oct 2, 2006

Epic Megagames? I'm Epic MegaGAY!

So I just finished reading Old Man's War and Ghost Brigades (John Scalzi) and I'm looking for other awesome sci-fi books about soldiers in space.

Books I already read: Starship Troopers and The Forever War

edit: yeah it's War not Man

CliffyBMine! fucked around with this message at Jul 6, 2009 around 19:27

Death Hamster
Aug 21, 2007
Is this a two-bagger I see before me?

CliffyBMine! posted:

So I just finished reading Old Man's War and Ghost Brigades (John Scalzi) and I'm looking for other awesome sci-fi books about soldiers in space.

Books I already read: Starship Troopers and The Forever Man

I'm guessing you meant to write "The Forever War" by Joe Haldeman.

I suggest "Armor" by John Steakley.

criptozoid
Jan 3, 2005


CliffyBMine! posted:

So I just finished reading Old Man's War and Ghost Brigades (John Scalzi) and I'm looking for other awesome sci-fi books about soldiers in space.

Greg Bear has a novelette called Hardfought which is pretty good. The plot, which centers on adolescents who are trained under pressure in order to battle aliens, slightly reminds you of "Ender's Game" which was published a few years later. However, "Hardfought" is bleaker, more sophisticated, and it mercifully stayed a novelette instead of spawning a thousand crappy sequels.

skynix
Jul 5, 2005


I'm looking for a few things:

1. I've been struggling to find pulp that engages me. I used to be really into Wheel of Time, A Song of Ice and Fire, hell even Star Wars books. As the first two are stalled for the foreseeable future, I've been wanting to find a new series to read *just for fun* when I feel like some light reading, but I've tried Malazan Book of the Fallen, Absolution Gap and now the first Dresden Files book, and none of them have given me that amazing sugar rush kind of feel that really good pulp used to give me. All of them have left me feeling cold--the writing was just a little too cornball to ignore (Dresden Files) or the world/characters felt flat and uninteresting (Malazan, Absolution Gap), something didn't click. This doesn't explain what I want really, I know. I was thinking that something along the lines of Neil Gaiman's work might be better--somewhat literary but clearly a genre book? I guess I'm looking for some combination of "interesting world with unique concepts" and "good writing." I really enjoyed American Gods, and the urban fantasy trope does a lot for me. I was also thinking about Max Berry's Jennifer Government or even Battle Royale as examples of genre books that are a little notch above for me. Alternatively, I also still enjoy Terry Pratchett's work a lot--pulp that doesn't take itself too seriously is nice. Basically, what pulp book would you recommend to someone who doesn't like pulp? Bonus if it's Space Opera or High Fantasy.

2. I'm looking for a book about creative writing or writing creative nonfiction. I've read a book on both now, Building Fiction and Tell It Slant, respectively. I've noticed that there isn't really an agreed on *best book* for either of these, and I was hoping someone could suggest books that they felt were helpful on learning how to construct stories.

3. With that in mind, short story or essay collections that you've enjoyed, specifically literary fiction and not genre fiction. I'm reading Girl with Curious Hair by David Foster Wallace right now, and it's great, but his stories are all so idiosyncratic that it's hard to glean anything useful from them on the art of writing or constructing fiction from them. My library has two editions of The best American Nonrequired Reading, which seems like a good place to start, but I was hoping you guys would have other suggestions.

Thanks!

Alec Eiffel
Sep 7, 2004

I like the way they think.

Got a seven hour car ride comin' up and I was hoping someone might provide a great Audiobook recommendation. I reckon the Audiobook can also be up to fourteen hours long given I've a return ride soon after. Fiction is probably the genre I am looking at, though if it's a great reading of a sci-fi/fantasy novel or a brilliant non-fiction reading, those may suffice. Historical fiction like James Clavell would be cool because I can see that being entertaining, but hell, I'll take Patrick Stewart reads Confessions of a Shopaholic if that's good too.

I have never listened to an Audiobook if that helps.

Epée
Jun 17, 2003

The Black Goat


Archyduke posted:

Edit: Oh and at the risk of sounding like a broken record, "Infinite Jest". Lots of interesting near-future stuff to chew on if that's your thing.

I've purchased a ebook version of Infinite Jest for my Sony reader and started on it. That first chapter, with the kid being interviewed regarding a tennis scholarship is so well written, funny and bizarre...really compelling reading. Let's see how I go with the other 2000 pages.

indigi
Jul 20, 2004


What are some good contemporary collections of short stories of Science Fiction? I've been burning through collections of guys like Dick, Lem, and Asimov, which I love, but I'd like to see where the general tone is nowadays as everything I've been reading lately is characterized by the Cold War, fears of nuclear accidents, civil rights struggles, and robots controlling society.

Gravy Jones
Sep 13, 2003

I am not on your side


The Year's Best Science Fiction is a collection that's been published every year for the last 25 years or so. It's usually a mix of well-known and new authors and fairly varied in scope and subject. I'd start with the most recent edition of that.

colonelsandy
Dec 28, 2006

"We in comparison to that enormous articulation; we only sound and look like badly pronounced and half finished sentences out of a stupid suburban novel."

Alec Eiffel posted:

Got a seven hour car ride comin' up and I was hoping someone might provide a great Audiobook recommendation. I reckon the Audiobook can also be up to fourteen hours long given I've a return ride soon after. Fiction is probably the genre I am looking at, though if it's a great reading of a sci-fi/fantasy novel or a brilliant non-fiction reading, those may suffice. Historical fiction like James Clavell would be cool because I can see that being entertaining, but hell, I'll take Patrick Stewart reads Confessions of a Shopaholic if that's good too.

I have never listened to an Audiobook if that helps.

Max Brooks World War Z is probably the best audiobook I've ever listened to (cast includes Mark Hamil, Henry Rollins, and Alan Alda to name a few), highly recommend it. Also Murakami's Wind Up Bird Chronicle is amazing as well.

Ballsworthy
Apr 30, 2008

yup

indigi posted:

What are some good contemporary collections of short stories of Science Fiction? I've been burning through collections of guys like Dick, Lem, and Asimov, which I love, but I'd like to see where the general tone is nowadays as everything I've been reading lately is characterized by the Cold War, fears of nuclear accidents, civil rights struggles, and robots controlling society.

Seconding Hello Pity's reccomendation, and I've also been enjoying the Solaris Book of New Science Fiction, another annual collection that started in 2007. I haven't picked up this year's volume yet, but the last two have been great.

Femur
Jan 10, 2004
I REALLY NEED TO SHUT THE FUCK UP


I would like to read an adventure(fantasy/sci-fi/whatever) type book with a hero who has almost no limits. Violence, prostitutes, fair maidens, everything is fair game. I would like the hero to be extremely clever, almost godlike cleverness. Grand conspiracies or mysteries would probably be the ideal setting, but whatever is works. I like only one primary character, no teams or constant switching of PoV. Clever dialogue would be nice. He can also not be clever, might just be incredibly lucky or unlucky, but just involved in some kind of grand conspiracy. Also, the sex part is unimportant overall, I wouldn't mind if it wasn't there.

Is that too much? I grew up reading Gu Long; and he writes several stories of this ilk, I was just wondering if there was anything similar in English.

Femur fucked around with this message at Jul 9, 2009 around 02:21

Epée
Jun 17, 2003

The Black Goat


Femur posted:

I would like to read an adventure(fantasy/sci-fi/whatever) type book with a hero who has almost no limits. Violence, prostitutes, fair maidens, everything is fair game. I would like the hero to be extremely clever, almost godlike cleverness. Grand conspiracies or mysteries would probably be the ideal setting, but whatever is works. I like only one primary character, no teams or constant switching of PoV. Clever dialogue would be nice. He can also not be clever, might just be incredibly lucky or unlucky, but just involved in some kind of grand conspiracy. Also, the sex part is unimportant overall, I wouldn't mind if it wasn't there.

Is that too much? I grew up reading Gu Long; and he writes several stories of this ilk, I was just wondering if there was anything similar in English.


I'd recommend you two books by Roger Zelazny:

Lord of Light The protagonist is a god, sort of, and is in a grand scheme to topple the other god-humans from 'heaven', using a new religion, murder and trickery. There is some sex in it too. One of my favourite sci-fi/fantasy books.

Chronicles of Amber The protagonist in this is also almost a god, in a way, and has the power to alter reality. He schemes against some of his brothers, and there is a sense of grand-conspiracy. Some sex in this as well. Read the first series of books (five in all), they are quite short.

Both of these are told from the POV of one character, and have sci-fi and fantasy elements.

Von Sloneker
Jul 6, 2009

i have a special plan for this world


To those looking for literary horror/dark fantasy/fiction that gives you the existential willies:

I saw a few of you throughout these five pages, so maybe I can lend a hand. Thomas Ligotti is a genre unto himself, but he usually attracts readers who are looking for something a bit more substantive and lingering than your average King/McCammon/Barker/whoever. In the realm of pulp horror, Ramsey Campbell probably comes closest to an analog, but even that's a stretch. Ligotti is considered an heir to Lovecraft, though he's not as ... nerdy, I guess, and he likewise doesn't overwhelm you with detail. His own cited influences are Poe, Kafka, Nabokov, Borges, Bruno Schulz, E.M. Cioran, and the aforementioned HPL. He writes mainly short stories, though poems, vignettes, and one short novel have turned up over the course of his career. (And his interviews can be just as good as his fiction.) Granted his stuff can be hard to find, but everything is worth tracking down, imo.

Anyway, most of his stories are told in the first person, and deal heavily with the flimsy nature of the human psyche -- or perhaps the flimsy nature of reality itself, that can be for you to decide. Usually these protagonists encounter some sort of malevolence, whether being, entity, or force, and the resultant revelation tends to be of the "we're all doomed" variety. A better way to say this is that Ligotti is a supreme nihilist whose pessimism pervades his every printed word, and even though the form is fiction, the message is philosophical. His most "famous" quotation is something like, "It's a damned shame that organic life ever developed on this planet;" his stories reaffirm this belief. (Also he suffers from a massive anxiety disorder, so not only do his stories drip with dread and dis-ease, but fellow sufferers usually find in him a sympathetic voice.)

Be forewarned, though: reading Ligotti can be exhausting and depressing over time. He's my favorite writer, yet I can only immerse myself in his world once or twice per year.

An excellent resource is Thomas Ligotti Online. Have at it.

Eight Is Legend
Jan 2, 2008


I read Critical Space by Greg Rucka and really liked it - which book by him is considered his best, and if it's Critical Space, which should I pick up next, then?

KitschCraft
Jun 27, 2008


I'm interested in books about money; fiction or non, but not how-to. Specifically, I'm looking for books about how money or the lack of money affects and influences a person's life. The book should have financial and/or class standing as a pervasive theme.

Books I've read and liked, for example: A Tree Grows in Brooklyn, Nickle and Dimed, The Working Poor, Random Family, No Shame in My Game on the poverty end of the spectrum, and American Psycho, Martin Amis' Money, on the affluent end. The more specific detail, the better (like the tin-can bank in Brooklyn). The book doesn't have to have much literary merit as long as it's interesting and personal.


Similarly, I'm interested in true crime where money/greed heavily influenced the criminal(s). Anything from Mob stories to crooked day-traders, to elaborate schemes to steal millions from corporations.

i saw dasein
Apr 7, 2004

Written postery is worth reading once, and then should be destroyed. Let the dead posters make way for others... ~

I remember Barbarians at the Gate is about RJR Nabisco being pretty interesting. It covers the leveraged buy out of Nabisco and RJ Tobacco Company, which was basically a move designed to make a lot of money for a few people who didn't really deserve it. I recently read House of Cards and found it good and very personal, it's very much about the personalities at play in Bear Stearns throughout the life of the firm. Both are non-fiction obviously.

TraderStav
May 19, 2006
At least that dreadful man has gone. For now.


KitschCraft posted:

I'm interested in books about money; fiction or non, but not how-to. Specifically, I'm looking for books about how money or the lack of money affects and influences a person's life. The book should have financial and/or class standing as a pervasive theme.

Books I've read and liked, for example: A Tree Grows in Brooklyn, Nickle and Dimed, The Working Poor, Random Family, No Shame in My Game on the poverty end of the spectrum, and American Psycho, Martin Amis' Money, on the affluent end. The more specific detail, the better (like the tin-can bank in Brooklyn). The book doesn't have to have much literary merit as long as it's interesting and personal.


Similarly, I'm interested in true crime where money/greed heavily influenced the criminal(s). Anything from Mob stories to crooked day-traders, to elaborate schemes to steal millions from corporations.

Confessions of an Economic Hitman, this book will change your life.
When Genius Failed <-- Fantastic blow-up of the worlds 'smartest' traders which resulted in a massive bailout that would have broken the worlds financial system if ignored

criptozoid
Jan 3, 2005


KitschCraft posted:

I'm interested in books about money; fiction or non, but not how-to. Specifically, I'm looking for books about how money or the lack of money affects and influences a person's life. The book should have financial and/or class standing as a pervasive theme.

Middlemarch by George Eliot includes a wonderful portrait of a recently married doctor living above his possibilities in a very class-conscious provincial town. It also features a spendthrift character who expects to repay his debts once he inherits his uncle's state. The novel has many themes; money is definitely one of them.

Janissary
Oct 22, 2005
If everybody just sniffed glue, there would be no wars.

KitschCraft posted:

I'm interested in books about money; fiction or non, but not how-to. Specifically, I'm looking for books about how money or the lack of money affects and influences a person's life. The book should have financial and/or class standing as a pervasive theme.

I think Tom Wolfe's The Bonfire of The Vanities would be right up your alley. It features a wealthy bond trader working on Wall Street in the 1980s who sees himself as one of the most powerful people in the world, a Master of The Universe. Issues of class and money and how they affect peoples lives and New York are definitely at the heart of the novel.

I would also recommend Don DeLillo's Cosmopolis even though it tends to get rather mixed reviews. It is also set in New York, but the book takes place during the peak of the Dot-com bubble and the main character is portrayed as an almost unrealistically wealthy multi-billionaire. The novel tries to capture contemporary culture very broadly, but a large portion of the book is about making and losing money.

Timelord
Jan 17, 2008

I wish I were dead


TorpedoFish posted:

I'm looking for (I think) psychological or supernatural horror/suspense. My two favorite horror authors are Lovecraft and Poe. I also greatly enjoyed House of Leaves - I guess one of the elements I like is when it becomes apparent that something is deeply wrong, whether with a person or a place or a thing, and just being along for the ride. Stephen King is kind of hit-and-miss for me; some of his short stories are good, others just don't do it for me. I love the sense of unreality in most of Neil Gaiman's works. I don't think I'm looking for anything in the 'thriller' genre, but more of a subdued 'is an engaging but kind of uncomfortable read, and then a week later you wake up at 3AM unable to stop thinking about being entombed alive because of it' stuff.

This poster wants the exact kind of books I am looking for, I did not see a response to him. Are there any books/authors of this nature that we would enjoy?

Von Sloneker
Jul 6, 2009

i have a special plan for this world


Timelord posted:

This poster wants the exact kind of books I am looking for, I did not see a response to him. Are there any books/authors of this nature that we would enjoy?

I thought I posted a response (in which I didn't quote anyone, oops), but it may not have been what you're looking for.

Runcible Cat
May 28, 2007

A dog? Never!!

Timelord posted:

This poster wants the exact kind of books I am looking for, I did not see a response to him. Are there any books/authors of this nature that we would enjoy?
Some William Hope Hodgson might hit the spot if you've run out of Lovecraft and Poe - particularly The Ghost Pirates. Don't go by the title, it's not yo-ho-hoing revenants; it's about a sailing ship that's being hijacked by something malicious and hostile. If you like that try The Boats of the Glen Carrig (more episodic and more monster-of-the-week, but still fun). His other novels, The Night Land and The House on the Borderland are more cosmic horror than subtle horror, but still well worth a go, though for the love of your dinner skip the opening setup chapter of The Night Land; it's the ghastly apex of Victorian sentimentality and induces projectile vomiting in lab rats. Synopsis of said chapter: Narrator's true love dies, he goes nuts and starts having visions (or are they :dun dun dunnnnn: ) of Earth's far future when they'll be reunited. It's just a framing device for the novel proper and can safely be skipped. Carnacki the Ghost-Finder is a collection of short stories, some of which are very effectively creepy.

I think Arthur Machen was recommended earlier; him too. The White People and The Novel of the Black Seal are two of his best short stories - his short stories are best; his novels don't do much for me (except The Three Impostors, which is a sort of metafictional fix-up with embedded short stories).

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Timelord
Jan 17, 2008

I wish I were dead


Thanks!
It's always great to find something new to read!

epoch.
Jul 24, 2007

When people say there is too much violence in my books, what they are saying is there is too much reality in life.


Timelord posted:

This poster wants the exact kind of books I am looking for, I did not see a response to him. Are there any books/authors of this nature that we would enjoy?

These may or may not be what you are looking for, but these are great books anyway...

Some more psychological/Literal horror:
By Peter Straub:
Ghost Story
Koko

By Shirley Jackson:
The Haunting of Hill House
We Have Always Lived in the Castle

By Henry James:
The Turn of the Screw

By Joyce Carol Oates:
The Collector of Hearts: New Tales of the Grotesque (shorts)

By Richard Matheson:
Hell House

Ridonkulous
Jan 11, 2006

I gotta take a leak. When I get back, we're doing body shots.


Can someone who has read the Watch series (Night watch/day watch/the other two) Tell me are the books worth reading or atleast of quality writting?

Alec Eiffel
Sep 7, 2004

I like the way they think.

colonelsandy posted:

Max Brooks World War Z is probably the best audiobook I've ever listened to (cast includes Mark Hamil, Henry Rollins, and Alan Alda to name a few), highly recommend it. Also Murakami's Wind Up Bird Chronicle is amazing as well.

I decided to try A Wild Sheep Chase, having read The Wind-Up Bird Chronicle, and I got about seven minutes into it before realizing that Audiobooks are absolute dreck. Problem solved!

Epée
Jun 17, 2003

The Black Goat


Anus Dei posted:

To those looking for literary horror/dark fantasy/fiction that gives you the existential willies:

Thomas Ligotti is a genre unto himself, but he usually attracts readers who are looking for something a bit more substantive and lingering than your average King/McCammon/Barker/whoever.

Thanks, have read two of his short stories since your recomendation, and really liked his writing. Will look for more of his work.

Vegetable Melange
Oct 23, 2008

tHROW SOME D"s ON THAT BIZNATCH


Hmm. Tried to post this a minute ago, but it would appear to have been eaten. Forgive me if there's some kind of time-delay, I'll check back in a bit.

Dear Litnerds,

I was reading Luciano Berio's "Remembering the Future", a set of lectures/essays on late-20th century Music Aesthetics, and I began to stumble a bit when he moved from talking about how the greatest critique of a symphony is another symphony into him talking about reading music heuristically as "texts". Since Berio was a good friend of Umberto Eco, I thought it appropriate to read up on semiotics and other fun lit theory ideas, but I don't know where to start, and am intimidated by the primary literature. Any good primers you can suggest are greatly appreciated.

timeandtide
Nov 29, 2007

This space is reserved for future considerations.

Turbo Fikus posted:

Hmm. Tried to post this a minute ago, but it would appear to have been eaten. Forgive me if there's some kind of time-delay, I'll check back in a bit.

Dear Litnerds,

I was reading Luciano Berio's "Remembering the Future", a set of lectures/essays on late-20th century Music Aesthetics, and I began to stumble a bit when he moved from talking about how the greatest critique of a symphony is another symphony into him talking about reading music heuristically as "texts". Since Berio was a good friend of Umberto Eco, I thought it appropriate to read up on semiotics and other fun lit theory ideas, but I don't know where to start, and am intimidated by the primary literature. Any good primers you can suggest are greatly appreciated.

I haven't read it, but Eco did write a book called Theory of Semiotics which is where he established his ideas for it. It might be worth just tracking down that and seeing how easily you understand it.

Also, if you feel you have troubled with in-depth explanations, you could always browse their Wikipedia pages and see if you "get it" from that.

Rob Filter
Jan 19, 2009


Ridonkulous posted:

Can someone who has read the Watch series (Night watch/day watch/the other two) Tell me are the books worth reading or atleast of quality writting?

I really enjoyed the night / day / twilight / final watch books. Its not brilliant literature, but its a enjoyable light read. Go for it.

timeandtide
Nov 29, 2007

This space is reserved for future considerations.

Rob Filter posted:

I really enjoyed the night / day / twilight / final watch books. Its not brilliant literature, but its a enjoyable light read. Go for it.

So you think the last book is decent enough? I enjoyed the original trilogy, but wasn't sure if I should pick that one up since I had never heard of it.

Rob Filter
Jan 19, 2009


timeandtide posted:

So you think the last book is decent enough? I enjoyed the original trilogy, but wasn't sure if I should pick that one up since I had never heard of it.

Final watch is just as good as twilight watch, so if you enjoyed that one then go for it.

The books don't have as many oh poo poo moments, but the expanding mythology and pseudo moral dilemmas more than makes up for it. The reveal about the seventh layer of the twilight was pretty bloody cool.

Skutter
Apr 7, 2007

I was curious to see how far you'd go to find me. Well, here I am.


GrandpaPants posted:

Looking for urban fantasy along the lines of Neil Gaiman, Charles de Lint, Glen Cook's Garrett PI series, Dresden Files, etc.

Edit: I'm also interested in books of or on mythology, either the actual myths themselves (especially for anything that isn't Greek myth) or academic interpretations of myth, like Claude Levi-Strauss or Joseph Campbell's works.

If you want good urban fantasy, try China Mieville's books. His Bas Lag universe is a mix of that plus some steampunk. They're very good.

Can anyone recommend any good steampunk novels? I've read Whitechapel Gods, Clockwork Heart, a few others that I can't remember right now and I'm currently working on The Court of the Air.

Van Dis
Jun 19, 2004


Skutter posted:

Can anyone recommend any good steampunk novels? I've read Whitechapel Gods, Clockwork Heart, a few others that I can't remember right now and I'm currently working on The Court of the Air.
It's not exactly what you're looking for, but have you ever read any weedpunk? This genre of punk literature is peppered with nuggets of fantastic writing. Really good stuff that is also fun to read. Some more pedestrian readers consider the genre nothing more than a bad parody, but weedpunk is one of the few, perhaps the only, subgenres of punk lit that is simultaneously meta-commentary on the punk lit scene as well as enjoyable in its own right. For some reason I can't currently access http://www.weedpunk.org/ but if you are able to it's a good starter (maybe check tomorrow). Good luck and happy reading.

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Ballsworthy
Apr 30, 2008

yup

Skutter posted:

Can anyone recommend any good steampunk novels? I've read Whitechapel Gods, Clockwork Heart, a few others that I can't remember right now and I'm currently working on The Court of the Air.

Moorcock's The Warlord of the Air. Proto-steampunk zeppelin warfare; really good stuff. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warlord_of_the_Air

As far as actual steampunk, I've been pretty disappointed in almost all the stuff I've read. J. Gregory Keyes has a sort of alchemical steampunk alternate history series called The Age of Unreason--starring Ben Franklin, Voltaire, Blackbeard, et al--that's a half-decent read, but nothing to write home about.

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