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Okay, so the current system might have a few kinks that need to be worked out, but I'd say it's overall much better than having some government bureaucrat standing between you and your doctor.
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The problem is that words really don't have any meaning to people like that. They're symbols that queue up poo poo in the person's head. Explain why gub'mint bureaucrats aren't evil and all they'll hear is '[BADTHING] isn't [VALUEJUDGEMENT_for_BADTHINGS]' and think you're stupid.
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i think kaltag is like a combination of grover and fraternite
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Radd McCool posted:The problem is that words really don't have any meaning to people like that. They're symbols that queue up poo poo in the person's head. Explain why gub'mint bureaucrats aren't evil and all they'll hear is '[BADTHING] isn't [VALUEJUDGEMENT_for_BADTHINGS]' and think you're stupid. if [poor], then [lazy friend of the family]
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Gazaville Slugger posted:GBS trip report: feelin' queasy: I wonder which congressional district this guy represents.
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Gazaville Slugger posted:GBS trip report: feelin' queasy: 
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stun runner posted:Okay, so the current system might have a few kinks that need to be worked out, but I'd say it's overall much better than having some government bureaucrat standing between you and your doctor. These quotes are making me angry. It's like people see UHC as being kafkaesque when in actual fact is, theres no one between you and your doctor, he just gets paid by the government for treating you. ARGH. The worst part is that I know theres absolutely nothing I can say that will change their minds. It's just hopeless.
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Xachariah posted:These quotes are making me angry. It's like people see UHC as being kafkaesque when in actual fact is, theres no one between you and your doctor, he just gets paid by the government for treating you. let it burn... just burn america to the ground and start over
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Raptop posted:I think we should do something effective like killing health care lobbyists.
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Jul 24, 2009 20:11
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for every one you kill seven will take its place
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dm posted:you'd be better off going for the execs and board members. I hope its years of corporate lobbying and right-wing media brainwashing are reflected in the godawful opinions in that thread because god loving drat you guys dont have a hope of improving america if any significant portion of america's population naturally hold that opinion e: union thread is good too
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yaay posted:I hope its years of corporate lobbying and right-wing media brainwashing are reflected in the godawful opinions in that thread because god loving drat you guys dont have a hope of improving america if any significant portion of america's population naturally hold that opinion  a very significant portion of america believes in bootstraps
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Gazaville Slugger posted:
do they know when you try to do that you mostly fall over right
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the socialism thread about healthcare in gbs has produced g_mangler, perhaps the greatest poster of all time.
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yaay posted:do they know when you try to do that you mostly fall over right Yeah, but the point is if enough generations of your family do it, eventually one gets lucky and then you're set, at least until you pop out a Paris Hilton.
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Jul 24, 2009 20:41
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g_mangler is actually probably not a troll
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stun runner posted:Okay, so the current system might have a few kinks that need to be worked out, but I'd say it's overall much better than having some government bureaucrat standing between you and your doctor. as opposed to now when no one gets between you and your doctor except the nurse, the gp you had to see to get the referral to the doctor, the insurance adjuster, the auditer claiming youre abusing your benefits, the manager who drops you from the insurance when you use too much, and the loving GRAVEDIGGER WHEN YOU DIE
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Darkwing_Duck posted:as opposed to now when no one gets between you and your doctor don't forget that in the south you can also add in the pharmacist if he thinks jesus wouldn't have prescribed those drugs
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The "OMG government bureaucrats, just like the DMV" line is always funny when you live someplace with a really efficient DMV.
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VideoTapir posted:The "OMG government bureaucrats, just like the DMV" line is always funny when you live someplace with a really efficient DMV. the government can't do anything *receives mail, drives on freeway, calls fire department, uses internet, air traffic controllers stop planes from crashing into me*
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stun runner posted:the government can't do anything *drops a piece of paper in a box that gets put in a specific box on the other side of the country a couple days later for <$0.50*
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I once dropped a piece of paper in a box in Fairbanks, AK and had it get to another box in Atlanta, GA the next day for <$.50
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VideoTapir posted:I once dropped a piece of paper in a box in Fairbanks, AK and had it get to another box in Atlanta, GA the next day for <$.50 yeah, but how long did you have to wait in line to do it? that's what this is really about. do you want to have to stand? in line? that's un-American.
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Gazaville Slugger posted:yeah, but how long did you have to wait in line to do it? I didn't, but I did have to drive to the post office.
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I AM AN AMERICAN CONSERVATIVE SHITHEEL this morning I was awoken by my alarm clock powered by electricity generated by the public power monopoly regulated by the US department of energy. I then took a shower in the clean water provided by the municipal water utility. After that, I turned on the TV to one of the FCC regulated channels to see what the national weather service of the national oceanographic and atmospheric administration determined the weather was going to be like using satellites designed, built, and launched by the national aeronautics and space administration. I watched this while eating my breakfast of US department of agriculture inspected food and taking the drugs which have been determined as safe by the food and drug administration. At the appropriate time as regulated by the US congress and kept accurate by the national institute of standards and technology and the US naval observatory, I get into my national highway traffic safety administration approved automobile and set out to work on the roads build by the local, state, and federal departments of transportation, possibly stopping to purchase additional fuel of a quality level determined by the environmental protection agency, using legal tender issed by the federal reserve bank. On the way out the door I deposit any mail I have to be sent out via the US postal service and drop the kids off at the public school. After spending another day not being maimed or killed at work thanks to the workplace regulations imposed by the department of labor and the occupational safety and health administration, enjoying another two meals which again do not kill me because of the USDA, I drive my NHTSA car back home on the DOT roads, to ny house which has not burned down in my absence because of the state and local building codes and fire marshal's inspection, and which has not been plundered of all it's valuables thanks to the local police department. I then log on to the internet which was developed by the defense advanced research projects administration and post on freerepublic.com and fox news forums about how SOCIALISM in medicine is BAD because the government can't do anything right I'm pretty sure I missed a few. I wonder what kind of fun could fall out from cleaning it up a bit and tossing it at a few newspapers comments sections edit: needs some consumer product safety commission somewhere at least randomnoise fucked around with this message at 21:21 on Jul 24, 2009 |
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randomnoise posted:I AM AN AMERICAN CONSERVATIVE SHITHEEL i walked on the sidewalk 
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haha that's a great idea, i'd love it to be cleaned up you could add GPS too
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so why have the talking points about health care plummeted to "When has the government ever done anything effectively at all?"
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OneArmedScissor posted:so why have the talking points about health care plummeted to "When has the government ever done anything effectively at all?" I honestly can't figure this poo poo out, I've gone to try parsing it in terms of feelings 'n' poo poo and do I get it sorted out that way? Not yet Are these people just stupid? It can't be that simple when half this bullshit is really quite elaborate
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Jay B. Bulworth posted:i walked on the sidewalk  yeah I guess you could take the kids to a CITY park CONSERVED BY FIATstun runner posted:haha that's a great idea, i'd love it to be cleaned up
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Radd McCool posted:I think it's that if the government isn't part of the solution, but government is the problem, then cooperation and mutual dependence aren't the way society works, and if free markets are the solution, then people like you and me are the highest order of human for our potential has been unleashed by capitalism and democracy, our founding FATHERS have taught us to be independent, we SONS of liberty must now SURPASS THE FATHER and create our own families or something in other words, the personal and private interfere with the empirical in this vale of tears we call life. news at 11
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quote:Obama is a radical leftist. An ideologue. So is most of GBS from what I've read. quote:It's really simple. Socialism is anti-freedom. Freedom is what has made america great. Therefore socialism is anti-american. (from http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3176080&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=9 Look up g-mangler's post history, he is an honest to god freeper)
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Radd McCool posted:Are these people just stupid? It can't be that simple when half this bullshit is really quite elaborate yes
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Alctel posted:(from http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3176080&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=9 he can't not be a troll come on
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yaay posted:he can't not be a troll come on g_mangler posted:I don't buy the discrimination argument. Simply put, straight people can't marry someone of the same sex, neither can gay people. Straight people can marry someone of the opposite sex, and so can gay people. So i really don't see this as in "equal rights issue."
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VideoTapir posted:The "OMG government bureaucrats, just like the DMV" line is always funny when you live someplace with a really efficient DMV. the irony is that in Ontario they moved the privatize parts of the DMV (well MTO in Canada). Even better is that the act to privatize the DMV offices was called the Road User Customer Service Improvement Act of 2000. You can watch the union they were replacing bitch here Optimus_Rhyme fucked around with this message at 22:03 on Jul 24, 2009 |
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yaay posted:he can't not be a troll come on g_mangler posted:I'm not against gay marriage. I've even had gay sex!!! OMFG!!!! Yes I have. I'm hetero mostly but have been bi in the past. You see I am not a cookie cutter right winger. I try to think on my own.
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quote:I personally don't give a poo poo who wants to marry whom, however I am generally against the soul sucking institution known as marriage. I'm certainly no homophobe as my past sexual history has encompassed both genders. I just think gay people should REJOICE that they aren't allowed to marry that way you don't have to listen to your "partner" badger, whine, and complain you into a lovely marriage. I personally hate being married and one day I will escape.  this is depressing
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g_mangler is the best poster and i want him to become property of lf.
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quote:It looks like we can chalk up a victory for the good guys. Stocks soared this week, as Congress gave up trying to enact so-called health-care reform — and the massive new taxes to pay for it — until after their August recess. That means it’s dead. death to the investor class, death to capitalists, death to america
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