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MisterGBH
Dec 6, 2010

Eric Bischoff is full of shit

Ozz81 posted:

Knowing WWE, they'd have done vignettes with Cara as a superhero, doing all sorts of crazy parkour flippy poo poo through Mexican 'hoods and taking down bad guys. Which, in a weird way, sounds kinda cool...until you realize WWE has made a habit of loving up good things over the last few years.

This right here is fantastic.

This new dude Avenero is it? Have him doing a similar thing; Steal a lollipop from a toddler, kicking sand castles over on the beach, pulling chairs away when someone is about to sit down and I'm sold.

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triplexpac
Mar 24, 2007

One day in your memoirs, you'll describe me as inscrutable.

Remember when they gave the Highlanders what felt like months of vignettes building them up and did nothing with them? That was really weird, was that their plan all along?

flashy_mcflash
Feb 7, 2011
SHUT UP! SHUT THE FUCK UP! OH MY GOD WILL YOU SHUT UP!? NOBODY WANTS TO READ YOUR STUPID POST SHUT THE FUCK UP! STOP POSTING AND SHUT THE FUCK UP PLEASE. PLEASE SHUT THE FUCK UP. WHY WILL YOU NOT SHUT THE FUCK UP?
SHUT. THE FUCK. UP.


Same with poor Spivey as Waylon Mercy. I thought that character really had legs.

Mons Hubris
Aug 29, 2004

fanci flup


Gatts posted:

I think it could Cody who seems to prove he's worth moving up a slot and I don't know how much he can stay in the midcard or Wade because he owns and would do magnificent things with a MitB briefcase and has shown he deserves to be in the main event.

I initially thought it could have been Cody, but if his feud with Bryan continues then Bryan will be essentially feuding with the champion and I don't think that's going to happen anytime soon, if ever.

I wish they'd give him a gimmick besides "bland guy"

ChikoDemono
Jul 10, 2007

He said that he would stay forever.

Forever wasn't very long...


flashy_mcflash posted:

Same with poor Spivey as Waylon Mercy. I thought that character really had legs.

They did nothing with him because he received a career-ending injury during a match with Nash.

George Kaplan
Mar 12, 2006



Ozz81 posted:

Knowing WWE, they'd have done vignettes with Cara as a superhero, doing all sorts of crazy parkour flippy poo poo through Mexican 'hoods and taking down bad guys. Which, in a weird way, sounds kinda cool...until you realize WWE has made a habit of loving up good things over the last few years.

Mr McMahon & His rear end vs Sin Cara y Sin Culo?

Suben
Jul 1, 2007

In 1985 Dr. Strange makes a rap album.


flashy_mcflash posted:

Same with poor Spivey as Waylon Mercy. I thought that character really had legs.

Imagine my surprise when I learned that Andy from Tough Enough is apparently cousins with Dan Spivey.

flashy_mcflash
Feb 7, 2011
SHUT UP! SHUT THE FUCK UP! OH MY GOD WILL YOU SHUT UP!? NOBODY WANTS TO READ YOUR STUPID POST SHUT THE FUCK UP! STOP POSTING AND SHUT THE FUCK UP PLEASE. PLEASE SHUT THE FUCK UP. WHY WILL YOU NOT SHUT THE FUCK UP?
SHUT. THE FUCK. UP.


Wouldn't Sin Culo be someone afflicted with that no-rear end condition that Hank had on King of the Hill?

BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE AMAZING

Mr. Carlisle
Jul 14, 2007



If there was a list of all of the things WWE has screwed up after a promising start since WCW died it would probably be really, really long and amazing.

Fushin
Dec 16, 2005

CUNT. PUNT.

Mr. Carlisle posted:

If there was a list of all of the things WWE has screwed up after a promising start since WCW died it would probably be really, really long and amazing.

Wouldn't it just be easier to make a list of things that WWE has gotten right?

Mr. Carlisle
Jul 14, 2007



Fushin posted:

Wouldn't it just be easier to make a list of things that WWE has gotten right?

Easier yes - but not nearly as fun to read and laugh at.

Or be depressed about. Either way.

Paper Jam Dipper
Jul 14, 2007

"Hey you want some cheese and crackers buddy?"


Mr. Carlisle posted:

Easier yes - but not nearly as fun to read and laugh at.

Or be depressed about. Either way.

It'd be scary the amount of times a "WWE did it right" and "WWE did it wrong" are within minutes of each other.

Right: ECW re-forms during Invasion
Wrong: ECW reveals it is owned by Stephanie McMahon and now a part of the Alliance

Right: Christian wins World Heavyweight Title
Wrong: Christian drops WHT after a few days

Right: NXT guys come in and destroy the WWE
Wrong: Daniel Bryan fired the next day

Mr. Carlisle
Jul 14, 2007



It's scary how long that list would be overall. With almost every single guy on the roster you can come up with two or more times they've had something going (or at least started) and completely hosed it up.

Making money in spite of himself indeed.

Sugar Blaster
Dec 14, 2004

All ears, all eyes, all the time!

Right: Nexus destroy the WWE set.
Wrong: Nexus are chased out of the arena by the likes of Santino and Mark Henry.

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

"What do we say to people who talk about the books?"

"Not today."

Right: A great worker with weak mic-skills is paired with the biggest heel in the company to rebuild his heat
Wrong: Angle ends in an anti-climax with no face turn and the relationship is never mentioned again

Swags

Mr. Carlisle
Jul 14, 2007



Sugar Blaster posted:

Right: Nexus destroy the WWE set.
Wrong: Nexus are chased out of the arena by the likes of Santino and Mark Henry.

Isn't that when Mark Henry actually ran past one of the Nexus members as he gave chase? Still funny to think about but not in a good way.

Edit: Haha, he laps like three of them. So awkward.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSvDKIc0ekw

Hirams Bitch
Oct 24, 2008



Sugar Blaster posted:

Right: Nexus destroy the WWE set.
Wrong: Nexus are chased out of the arena by the likes of Santino and Mark Henry.

And Sheamus, and Randy Orton, and John Cena, and R-Truth, and William Regal, and Jerry Lawler, and Evan Bourne, and possibly others that I couldn't see. So it was 7 on (at least) 9 with one side having Orton, Cena, and Sheamus, and guys like Henry and Regal are certainly good enough to run off guys like Darren Young or David Otunga. If they hadn't had the locker room clear out and run Nexus off, we would've had people complaining about how stupid it was that nobody else came out. It made sense to have this happen and then have Nexus be quicker and more selective in their attacks going forward.

Karmine
Oct 23, 2003

If you tremble with indignation at every injustice, then you are a comrade of mine.


Sugar Blaster posted:

Right: Nexus destroy the WWE set.
Wrong: Nexus are chased out of the arena by the likes of Santino and Mark Henry.

Can we please stop talking about this angle as if John Cena, Edge, Randy Orton, and Big Show weren't also part of it

Yes it was stupid to have them get chased off by ANYONE a mere week after debuting but it's not like it was ONLY the jobber squad out there.

KungFu Grip
Jun 18, 2008




I'm sorry, wrong Aquilera.

This is Jesus, Carlito's short lived bodyguard who stabbed Cena.

Paper Jam Dipper
Jul 14, 2007

"Hey you want some cheese and crackers buddy?"


Hirams Bitch posted:

And Sheamus, and Randy Orton, and John Cena, and R-Truth, and William Regal, and Jerry Lawler, and Evan Bourne, and possibly others that I couldn't see. So it was 7 on (at least) 9 with one side having Orton, Cena, and Sheamus, and guys like Henry and Regal are certainly good enough to run off guys like Darren Young or David Otunga. If they hadn't had the locker room clear out and run Nexus off, we would've had people complaining about how stupid it was that nobody else came out. It made sense to have this happen and then have Nexus be quicker and more selective in their attacks going forward.

Agreed. The issue wasn't who they ran them out but that they were run out. It made sense when SD united immediately to ensure that Nexus didn't have a chance to take over their show because they saw what selfish individualism did to Raw. But Raw was proven to be broken up in cliques with guys only caring about themselves and so many of them caring more about stabbing a guy in the back than saving him. Nexus had power because they exposed that on Raw. They had strength in numbers because nobody was willing to co-exist. The same thing happened in WCW with the nWo. There was over 100 people on the WCW roster and the nWo at its biggest was less than 20 but you couldn't rely on Ric Flair to not stab Sting in the back.

Hirams Bitch
Oct 24, 2008



Lone Rogue posted:

but you couldn't rely on Ric Flair to not stab Sting in the back.

Well that is like trying to domesticate a tiger. They might seem like a sweet pet but sooner or later they're going to eat you.

Eugene Jerome
Jun 24, 2005

by angerbeet


Rumor going around is that Jerry Lynn beat Abyss for the X-Division title at last night's Impact taping

CVagts
Oct 19, 2009


That's not in the spoilers that I read. Unless they did some on Wednesday?

Sono
Apr 9, 2008



The Wise Teen posted:

I initially thought it could have been Cody, but if his feud with Bryan continues then Bryan will be essentially feuding with the champion and I don't think that's going to happen anytime soon, if ever.

I wish they'd give him a gimmick besides "bland guy"

I could see them just jobbing out Ted to Bryan while Cody does the "I've got a briefcase nah nah nuh nah nah" thing with Orton.

Rick
Feb 23, 2004
And now the whole nation - pulpit and all - will take up the war-cry, and shout itself hoarse, and mob any honest man who ventures to open his mouth; and presently such mouths will cease to open.

ALso Matt Striker stared at me and we made awkward eye contact. I don't know why.

KungFu Grip
Jun 18, 2008



Rick posted:

ALso Matt Striker stared at me and we made awkward eye contact. I don't know why.

You and him are soul mates now. Congratulations.

Writer Cath
Apr 1, 2007

It's always Heath's fault.

Rick posted:

ALso Matt Striker stared at me and we made awkward eye contact. I don't know why.

Are you a mound of ebony flesh? Because he's a big fan of those.

SalTheBard
Jan 26, 2005

Somebody call Totoro

What WWE did right: Giving Miz the WWE title
What WWE did wrong: Making Miz look like the worst champion since Rey Mysterio's first title run

Gatts
Jan 2, 2001

Ben, buddy, it's a wonderful day to go web slinging!


Point: Miz is loving awful in the ring and can't carry others to a good match. He's a star regardless and I suppose to the WWE the ring stuff doesn't matter anymore.

Hirams Bitch
Oct 24, 2008



SalTheBard posted:

What WWE did wrong: Giving Miz the WWE title

Fixed that for you.

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010


Let it go already.

sportsgenius86
Jun 17, 2008

yo dawg randytar is back dawg


Hirams Bitch posted:

Fixed that for you.

this gimmick is the TL Hopper of PSP

sportsgenius86
Jun 17, 2008

yo dawg randytar is back dawg


Gatts posted:

Point: Miz is loving awful in the ring and can't carry others to a good match. He's a star regardless and I suppose to the WWE the ring stuff doesn't matter anymore.

you suppose???

have you heard of Great Khali or post-2008 John Cena.

Tonfa
Apr 8, 2008



I read the Impact spoilers and realized this is the second time I somehow completely missed Steiner turning heel in TNA.

Seriously when did it happen

triplexpac
Mar 24, 2007

One day in your memoirs, you'll describe me as inscrutable.

To me, Steiner is always a heel. Just sometimes he is a heel to other heels which makes him more babyface-ish than usual.

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008





He turned heel on Matt Morgan awhile back for the usual Steiner reasons. "You think you're hot poo poo, I'm the Big Poppa Pump." Then last week he faced Bubba in BFG match and Bubba cheated to win, Steiner went after him backstage and Bubba offered him a spot in Immortal to save his rear end. Steiner accepted it this week to go double heel, I guess.

Ozz81
Aug 30, 2006



triplexpac posted:

To me, Steiner is always a heel. Just sometimes he is a heel to other heels which makes him more babyface-ish than usual.

I kinda look at him like an early Stone Cold, or maybe an old-school Jake Roberts - there's really no clear good or bad boundary, he just kind of does what he wants, regardless of reaction. I wonder if he uses his Steinermath to figure out the probability of getting boos compared to cheers in order to sway him towards being good or bad based on the person he's feuding with and the town TNA has their show in.

DEAR RICHARD
Feb 5, 2009

IT'S TIME FOR MY TOOLS


Scott Steiner turned into Scott Steiner.

Ask Me For Warez
Jun 18, 2004

I'm not the public.
I'm the President

STAC Goat posted:

He turned heel on Matt Morgan awhile back for the usual Steiner reasons. "You think you're hot poo poo, I'm the Big Poppa Pump." Then last week he faced Bubba in BFG match and Bubba cheated to win, Steiner went after him backstage and Bubba offered him a spot in Immortal to save his rear end. Steiner accepted it this week to go double heel, I guess.

Scott Steiner swerved himself, we are through the looking glass.

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Rusty Shackelford
Feb 7, 2005

by Ozmaugh


DannoMack posted:

Well he specifically said that "if CM Punk walks out of Chicago with the title you're fired" which means punk COULD win, then the mitb cash in could happen, as some of speculated.

The Allstate Arena is in Rosemont and not Chicago. Punk could win the title and never step foot IN Chicago.

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