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Skandiaavity
Apr 20, 2005

Xelly posted:


It’s been a growing concern of mine that Foreign Service does not have a place for my interests. In simplest terms I’m not sure which track to choose because I’m not sure any of them serve my purpose. I don’t want to work in a consulate rejecting visas all day long; I want to prevent conflicts and resolve international disputes (e.g. stop wars). I want to be the person who sits in meetings with foreign ministers and convinces them not to let ships filled with weapons from China dock in their country. This is not to say that I’m not willing to work my way up, because I would totally work in a consulate and push papers all day long if it meant I could eventually do what I wanted.

You could check the Peace Corps or USAID. USAID works with the same people as State, but it's more Economical.

That being said, as a defense contractor and somebody who's sitten in on a similar meeting - that job is probably not what you think it is. Likewise you will not even be present until you work there for at least 15 years.

Diplomacy is not something everybody can do. I know you don't wanna confirm/deny Visa's all day, nobody wants to do that! Everybody wants to be the ambassador, except him.

I think Ferrets put it right - you have to be completely OK with decisions, no matter how bad. It may be a poor example, but the war in Iraq - have a problem with it, then FS may not be for you. You mentioned you'd like to stop wars. How would you feel about starting wars? How would you feel about letting those chinese ships with weapons dock in L.A. in exchange for not having China bankrupt us? State, and by extension, DSS, are privy to a lot more knowledge than regular people have about the ongoings in such areas. A real FSO will work with economic agents - like the CIA - in addition to defense contractors to get a mutual understanding of the crisis. Sometimes the CIA may ask State for favors (sanctions/taxes on X country), and likewise the opposite (classified). It's less about owning up to mistakes and more about sticking to a decision that's already been made. You may like or hate it, but it's your job nonetheless.

It took career diplomats literally years to resign because they disagreed that strongly about direction. You will have little to no say in the matter, only that as an Ambassador, when things goes up or down you must be the personal representative of the President. If you're aiming less then what I say doesn't really apply, but it's still top down approach.

I took the FSOT and was denied a second round, unfortunately. Due to my job, I've been unable to take it again, but I'm thinking about doing so. So I may not be qualified to talk about State. However, I've done panels with the U.N. and this well-known defense contractor picked me up, so that's how I know about some things. And now I help State write their policy!

Ferrets: is there an easy way to get into State? Not to namedrop, but I literally know like four people in H.R., 3 former ambassadors, a few senior level directors and a bunch of other people in CS and FS. I write policy for them (that they use), and they're happy with it - yet it seems impossible for me to land a job. What gives, what's needed, really? Resumes, Impressive Histories and Manners; things that usually get interviewers drooling, they aren't seeming to work. Am I 'too far ahead' in my career where it seems unusual for me to drop my current job to go stamp visas for two years? How does State feel about hiring GS-9/11/13 (and respective FS scale) positions externally?

They've got some insane hiring policy, do they not?

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Skandiaavity
Apr 20, 2005

Business of Ferrets posted:

thx for info

er - I did receive passing marks on the exam - just I was not chosen for the oral interview. I think the last time I took the test was in '07? Have things really changed much since then? I don't have any qualms about retaking the exam. In my case I think it may be I'm a bit overqualified for the entry level FS positions (which are required? or is it possible to just skip entry level and go straight into mid-high level diplomacy?)

I do have the pull with a few people to get a political appointment, but I'd prefer to make it on my own merits rather than who I know.(Favors in 'this town' are hard to come by, especially ones with weight behind them) I was just asking about State, internally.

I was just having words with some state employees the other day - they mentioned that for a specialist position, FSOT is not needed despite it being a FS Job. (apologies if you've already answered this) Is it possible to backdoor one's way through Specialist - Officer position?

Skandiaavity
Apr 20, 2005

Business of Ferrets posted:

If you can get an appointment by calling in favors, you should do so. It has to be better than a few years on the visa line.

There is a formal process for specialists to convert to generalists. I believe it does not require the FSOT. But then, it sounds like you didn't have a problem with the FSOT, right?

Vilerat posted:

First off let me dispell any preconceptions about Specialist/Generalist. This is not an Enlisted/Officer relationship at all in fact the pay scales are identical. Specialists come in with a qualifying set of skills already and do not take the exam, Generalists come in with no specific experience/training set and must pass the exam.


Calling in favors for an appointment makes you that guy. I don't wanna be him. I don't have problems with the FSOT; just a problem with the pay, sort of. It's fine if living expenses are all provided for.

I'll likely check out the specialist route - I believe I can qualify for a few IT jobs in that area. Is State still looking for people with Risk Management/Assessment, or is it more general IT services?

edit: I should just clarify; I'd like to work for them - this much, my mind is already decided on. The route is irrelevant to me, it's just I'm saving favors for post appointment.

Vilerat, you mentioned an IT Recruiter is a goon - have a place where I could talk or perhaps send a resume?

edit2: just reregged for the october FSOT now under the Economic Track. Hope I can get in!


vvv- thanks! if he prefers to contact off forums, can he send me an email since I don't have plat? omp_doug@hotmail.com (no dick butts, please) or use AIM - lazys fair. Much obliged!

Skandiaavity fucked around with this message at 21:14 on Oct 1, 2009

Skandiaavity
Apr 20, 2005
Hey vilerat, thanks for the advance notice :)


looks like I owe the popes toes a beer....

Skandiaavity
Apr 20, 2005
Vilerat - I already spoke with Mark (and he was very helpful!), did you have any advice on what not to write for the IM position coming up?

Skandiaavity
Apr 20, 2005
On that topic, anybody know what the process is like at State? is it an auto reject or do they just give it individual consideration?

Skandiaavity
Apr 20, 2005
From my experience, (which is a higher clearance, just not in DoS),

They don't necessarily look at where you go, but when you go is more important to them. Even briefly working alongside them, I can tell that the DSS is very thorough. To the point where the CIA has in the past occasionally asked them for assistance, and vice versa.

It's kind of like an img-timeline in that respect; You can go to Syria tomorrow and they won't think much about it, but like twenty bells go off if you went in 1988.

If you go over there with a few friends it helps your case immensely. likewise if you have some kind of tourist element from it (ala blown glass keychain from palestine), and based off your interview they will know you went over for tourism.

They very rarely actually follow up on leads because they probably already know about them :ssh: I mean, you're filling out stuff back to what, High school, middle school? on your SF-86 and they verify everything, even the stuff you've missed.

I've had most of my references checked (I asked them or they called me up and asked me if I was OK)

If there's any DSS goons i'd like to know :(

Shouldn't need to be said, but for anyone undergoing the clearance process, regardless of level: be honest, 100%. Don't care if you do drugs, did them, you're 15,000 in debt to the IRS, or your best friend's a pimp and human trafficker. Some of the questions are completely insane, but answer them truthfully anyway. Just be honest, they're going to find out anyway.

And be careful on your interview, I don't know about DoS, but I do know that DoD can try to occasionally trip you up on the clearance. My interviewer asked me why the St. Peter's Basilica was in the opposite end of Rome.

edit: apologies for off tangent thread, back to Foreign Service Chat.

Skandiaavity
Apr 20, 2005

TCD posted:

I went through the QEP IMS position last year....


I don't remember what I wrote exactly, but it worked.

Just be honest, thoughtful, and have somebody proof what you wrote.
Also, they do have that packet during the Oral Exam fyi.

tyvm. I tried my best! (the personal section was the hardest so I just tl;dr'd my life and how funny it is, but you've got to keep your head clear, pretty much)

I had somebody proof it, but it was spelling and not content. So I'm cool in that respect.

Just submitted my application. :ohdear: I tried to keep word count to a minimum.. now off to get my transcripts and certificates and and fax them :argh:

Skandiaavity
Apr 20, 2005
Shoot, seeing this thread reminded me I have to get my transcripts and supplementary material and fax them in...

oh yeah, is there any method of updating a contact? i.e. say someone typed firstname.lastname@email.com, but it was really lastname.firstname@email.com? Or it just not worthwhile if you've got other contacts?

(and wasn't the oral exam the reason why most people fail the FSOT, BOF?)

Skandiaavity
Apr 20, 2005
Vilerat:

Christ, isn't there some kind of appeals section there for you to request a re-evaluation? like .60th of a point, is that even for real?


vvv- drat. Direct your rage to McKinsey, though. I can't even imagine how you felt reading that aside from "fffffffffffffffffffffffff*church bells, pigeons swarming, taxi cab horns honking on Constitution Ave*"

Skandiaavity fucked around with this message at 18:29 on Nov 13, 2009

Skandiaavity
Apr 20, 2005

Pompous Rhombus posted:

If you marry a foreign national, could you potentially lose your security clearance?

Not really, no. Unless they were pretty shady. I don't think they hold that against you much, either. It's likely DSS/Homeland will just deny his/her visa application, and when your clearance cycles they might want some words about it. I'm betting it's highly unlikely somebody would know their "real" background and still marry them.

AFAIK, your spouse will not even have to pursue citizenship. And if you have good clearance going through, for some reason your/his/her visa application gets pushed through a little quicker*, probably because they've already done most of the background checking on your behalf.

For example, with my wife, from mail of application to receiving the green card in the mail was ~5 months give or take a week, which was something like 3 months shorter than the average. (However, if we sent in the application in her host country, it apparently would take ~2 months. I have no idea why)

On a side note about that, Homeland/USCIS really seems to process some countries faster than others... :\

* (no hard facts on this, it may be analomy - just from what I've observed, friends w/ clearance against friends w/o clearance)

Skandiaavity
Apr 20, 2005
Barracuda Bang -

I am sure that within 2 months they have picked ideal candidates out, but doesn't federal law/EEO require them to look at all applicants? There's probably thousands of them, even for courier positions. Students or interns will sometimes apply to a job they don't really understand or have a chance at getting just because it's the State Department and it aligns with their major. so the people at HR, although they may have already chosen you, also have to sort through those applicants. And when it's done do they send out the batch of emails, as it's more efficient that way.

Federales also take their time. A typical federal agency, say Dept. of Justice - within 2-3 months you may get an mass-email stating you're eligible (or not) for the position, then another month or two, they'll send out a follow up mass-email saying whether you're chosen for the interview or not, then it'll be like another 3 months before the actual interview and maybe another month for the offer.

I'm not in State, so they may (probably) work differently but I would imagine a longer process since they probably receive a lot more job applicants than other agencies. Or maybe they don't, I don't really know.

The wait sucks, I know. but think of it as getting it makes getting the job all the more rewarding.

Skandiaavity
Apr 20, 2005

Homie S posted:

DSS

Word! You heading to Queen Anne then? Or jockeying for an overseas post?

transient posted:

I've signed up to take the test (hopefully next month) and am interested in the management cone. I'm an international business major with an emphasis in management, Spanish, and Latin America. My level of Spanish proficiency when I graduate will basically be at an advanced vacation level. Technically, I'm ok, but conversationally not so much.

I have management experience and a bit of foreign travel experience but other than that I'm pretty unqualified. I want to test anyway, but do I really have a chance of getting through?

My resume is somewhat spotty. Every job I have had I can provide good references for, but I have lapses in employment that aren't easily explained and I've made some questionable decisions that may or may not appear in a background check but no felonies and nothing overly extreme.

Also I'm 30 and just getting my BS in international business. Just looking for a realistic look at my chances.


I don't work for State (i'm applying myself), but it seems going in, everyone has pretty much the same chances. I think Spanish is a pretty common language (not a critical needs language) so you won't get a lot of points for it, even if your proficiency is very high. I would not worry about your resume at this point in time unless you're applying to other jobs, since you have to pass the FSOT/QEP first.

State FS doesn't really look at age, I think you just have to be between 21-60? years old (someone from state will correct me on this, just going by USAJOBS postings). A MS would likely help you (or a specialized MBA), but it's not a necessity unless it's specifically stated. (edit: it's possible they may look favorably upon your BS at 30, too. It can show that you have a direction in life career-wise)

if you feel really uncomfortable or unsure of your abilities with State, try the CIA. I do know State corroborates occasionally with them and Private Contractors/Consultants (SAIC, Booz Allen, McKinsey are a few), you can apply with them as an economic/financial/intel analyst in latin american countries. But thats more of a 'business' environment, is that what you're aiming for?

dunno on the management cone, but if it's what you're majoring in, then it would not hurt to try. If you're set on trying for the FS, you might as well also try USAID, which I think is still looking for management experience. Good luck! :)

Skandiaavity
Apr 20, 2005

TCD posted:

Just a FYI, the incoming agents in our Specialist class are pretty much told first two postings will be domestic. Now there are domestic postings that have a lot of overseas travel.

Oversea postings are highly competitive amongst DSS.


Cool, thanks for the specialist tip. You gotta put in your dues!

and yeah, overseas postings for DSS are cutthroat crazy.



Vilerat - oh god, I participated in one of those (Counter Terrist Driving Skillz N' Other Useful Driving Habits in the DC Metro Area). Wasn't Bill Scott, but it was in VA. I don't think it was for DSS, though - might have been homeland. but holy lol are they ever unfair 'advantages.' Two Suburbans vs a Hyundai and suggesting a high speed impact?

Skandiaavity
Apr 20, 2005

xanthig posted:

What exactly does diplomatic security do? If they are not DS who are the "Security Officers" at foreign posts?

DS are the guys in Pacificas with rail mounted machine guns, sitting there smiling smugly and just daring you to run that red light, while conducting training exercises in the wee hours of the morning. DS does a lot of things, including some intel research. Mostly I believe they have a prevent&protect function - nobody wants any wars, so they protect overseas dignitaries/visitors while on US Soil, and protect U.S. Agents (or in rare cases, citizens) while abroad.

edit: But that is only one kind of purpose they serve, it's similar the Secret Service - they gotta protect the president, but they also do.. many other things.

Thats why most prefer to remain stateside, as there's a lot less of unknown variables that can go wrong.

Vilerat posted:

This one was more of a "oh poo poo you are an FSO in Baghdad and your driver just died sucks to be you!" course. It owned. The best course I've taken ever.

heh, for some reason DSS has an unusually close relationship with NTSB :iiam: Like to the point NTSB will call DSS to assist with investigating foreign plane crashes (am thinking of that one in Pakistan that killed their entire cabinet)

But yeah, at the one I went to, it was hosted by an outside contracting agency, but they ran similar scenarios, like some kind of sick dungeon master playing a modern warfare D&D.

"Oh poo poo you are responsible for a VIP in d.c. and your driver and front gunman just got steamrolled by a delivery truck. You look over and see your VIP's legs are immobile and hostiles are closing, but you come to your senses and you find out the car is still running. What do you do?" then they hand you this busted up Lincoln that wouldn't go above 40, as if it was stuck in '1'.

I'm fairly certain they had to lay down new concrete after that day.

Skandiaavity
Apr 20, 2005

transient posted:

I've actually got a close friend in the CIA right now who has been trying to talk me into it. Part of my problem is that before I decided to go back to school I had a mildly questionable past which from talking to people he knows he thought would not get me through a CIA background check, but quite possibly a state department one. Are the background checks similar?

OPM handles the general clearances, but each agency has their in-house security clearance too. So DS handles State Clearance, CIA has their own, IRS has their own (MITS?), etc.

Lying is the worst thing you can do. In fact people with current drug uses have passed security clearances, because they were so honest.

Also: TS/SCI stacks (edit: there's like a whole bunch of different levels of TS/SCI Clearance, in the DoD at least), there's a need-to-know sort of operation in it. So just because you have Y clearance doesn't mean you're set to know A-B-C things, even if they fall under the umbrella of TS/SCI. If you do not have need to know, the punishment is as the same as disclosing classified material/national secrets/i.e. 20 years in Leavenworth.

If somebody from the CIA is trying to recruit you, give them a listen at least. It is not very far removed from what some departments at State do. (some people say State does the face work, CIA does the grunt work)

AFAIK OPM does not deny you clearance because of "people you know" unless they're seriously shady people. Like if your wife's brother hacks into the US Government Database, yeah, that will get you a insta denial but if your wife's brother is a coke dealer in Missouri, they kind of don't give a gently caress (unless you're going into the DEA). It's about the web/sphere of influence/possibility of risk.


and now: my spergin time!

While applying for a certain specialist job, I realized my certification lapsed, like a month ago (D'oh!) So I'm taking it again, isn't going to be a problem. , except the company just called me and said "hey um you know we registered you two weeks ago, right? but while your check was clearing, we sold your seat to somebody else! yeah its full theres no shot in hell of you getting in now. There's another class.. but it's on Feb 6. Do you want it?"

My issue: the specialist position deadline is Jan 30. Can I just send State a Fax of the email log of the entire transaction and proof of registration, payment, and whatnot of the class and tell them that "results are pending, will fax them ASAP once they come in." or are current certifications ABSOLUTELY REQUIRED by the time of closing?

My application is already sent (as of November), and this is the only thing that's hanging it up.

I realize it's not much past the deadline, like 5-6 days at most, but it has me pissed all morning.

Skandiaavity
Apr 20, 2005
FSOT invites went out.. i got one, but it was all "PERSON FIRST NAME PERSON LAST NAME" ?

Weird. Guess I'm taking it in a few weeks.


and Vilerat - haha. Did she scrutinize your department?

Skandiaavity
Apr 20, 2005

Vilerat posted:

The work involved in getting a VIP into town, host the event, then get them out is astounding. It's a lot of work but it's also a lot of fun and some of the most memorable work experiences I've had.

mm, yes. That division of the DSS does their job really well, I see people talk a little smack about them [out of jealousy? or something] but it's always a positive comment from the VIPs. Treasury, too. Those guys have their poo poo locked down for pretty much every contingency. Way down to the U.S. Marshal to serve you at home @ 10 P.M., if needs be.

But I guess that's why it's such a competitive post.


p.s. it gets really fun when you are sent a VIP's schedule, but don't necessarily have the need-to-know to look at it. Right about then is when I started to seriously respect the secret service. :)

Skandiaavity
Apr 20, 2005
congrats/condolences, QEP teams. I'm a bit nervous taking the FSOT.


An interesting thing pointed out by Obama last night was gov't pay freezes. Not that it matters, but it did get me to thinking - State sometimes falls under the national security umbrella, but not always. And the parts that do are all under the FS division; so by his own words: are they exempt?

That is if this thing even gets to fruition, though.

vvv- i think that's what he was getting at; kind of like how he's trying to switch everybody from steps to Pay for Performance plan, but tacking on placing freezes on salaries for a few years. that's how I interpreted it.

Skandiaavity fucked around with this message at 23:18 on Jan 28, 2010

Skandiaavity
Apr 20, 2005

problematique posted:

Are there any resources online for reading up on the FS IMS position closing Feb 1st; perhaps anyone here is an IMS? I've read the career page a few times but wanted some feedback on what the position really entails. Is it a glorified IT support position or what is it exactly comparable to in the private sector. I'm wondering what the career path of one would look and what types of opportunities there are for specialization in IS security, audit, compliance work?

For the private sector comparison, I've heard that it's a all-in-one-Systems Administrator, including network and hardware - which is why it asks for the CISSP, MCSE, (or similar) certifications. So you'd be doing a little bit of everything. I would imagine you'd go through the ranks over again (seems common through federal agencies), start out doing grunt work and maybe ultimately end up managing an embassies's network? So yeah, I guess it could fall under "glorified IT support position". (could be wrong here..)

Dunno on the IT Audit & Compliance sector.. State itself has it going on every 3 years, that much I know, but I think the civil service handles that aspect? Not usually recommending them, but private contractors are also great for that field. there's usually a steady stream of contracts/work in those fields, especially audit/compliance/certification & accreditation, so if you're set on that path, you might want to take a look at them. SAIC and Booz Allen are two good places to start.

CherryCola, I know somebody at CIA that I'd be happy to pass your info along to, but I can't guarantee anything as it's been forever since I've talked to her. but she works in H.R., so it may be an 'in' for you. Did you try USAID? or Millennium Group? One would think they'd also be interested in Urdu speakers. I have heard that GWU Career fair, even if you don't go to GWU, is also a great place to meet recruiters for work. one should be coming up as it is spring.

Skandiaavity fucked around with this message at 19:04 on Jan 29, 2010

Skandiaavity
Apr 20, 2005
I've heard a LOT of mixed answers on JET, and they're on completely opposite ends of the spectrum

-if you even take Japanese 101, without a proper teacher's recommendation you instantly are denied

-you must have passable business japanese to even be considered for a middle school position

-they ask you what your favorite anime is, and if you seriously answer it in any form, denied

etc... but then again the type of person to apply for JET isn't really likely to be a scholar or person with (serious) business interests. The ones that are, obviously get the jobs.

Skandiaavity
Apr 20, 2005

Lemmi Caution posted:

So completely wrong on both counts, especially these days.

Bear in mind that was a generalization, based off experiences from those that went through the program that I've talked with. The ones that did get into JET were more seriously/business-motivated than the "ANIME!" types. A lady I work with is on the chair there, she set up a sister-city relation with some town in Hyogo and someplace in Montgomery County, another is a graduate heavily interested in religious studies abroad, one flat out ditched JET around six months in and now works for Honda, another's an actual professor at GWU, etc.

I haven't ever been interested in JET, and I'm sure those are just a handful of applicants, but I can only base off what these people tell me. So you say that JET is in the habit of reversing that trend? Any idea why?

Skandiaavity
Apr 20, 2005
I'm not in State (yet :( ), but -

No, I think hardship is similar to a 'war zone'. Iraq, Afghanistan - those are current hardship posts. I think all 1 year posts are hardships (or all hardships are 1 year posts?)

It's not hardship because you don't want to go there, just a 'lovely draw'. I guess you have to roll with the punches, but you don't have a say in that aside from "don't like it? leave." but think of it positively, if you bring/improve an updated internet connection to Botswana, it looks really good on you. i heard somewhere that people choose hardship posts as a fast-track to promotions.


Re: family and life, From my experience, working in the government is always more stable (you will have job security, steady income, etc) than in the private sector, where it will flux. If you're looking for big bucks, yeah, maybe it's not for you.

I believe the (current) promotion process nearly follows the same pattern as the general government (GS), except it's different pay grade system called "FS." But they have steps up and across, yearly assessments, etc. If course, this may? all change in 2012, but I doubt it.

Re: the posts, Sure, it happens.. it happens anywhere in the world, private or government Just gotta stay on your toes and don't step on anybody elses! Pissing off the bid manager would probably guarantee you a crap post.


in other news, I got the FSOT invite. wonder if it times with my recent application :(

and my certification exam was delayed again till this Sat. Hope it's not delayed again, snow! :argh: Hope the people in HR won't mind, since it's a snow week :P

Skandiaavity
Apr 20, 2005

TCD posted:

A few things.

The general nomenclature that we seem to use is to refer to hardships as Posts with hardship differential (most of Africa, etc) Generally speaking, there's a cut off of I think 15% differential or more is considered a "hardship". Posts in Iraq or Stans are referred to as unaccompanied. They almost always have Post differential (hardship pay) and danger pay.

The FS is part of the excepted service and is up or out. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Excepted_Service

Thx for the corrections, seems like I was a bit off. So what defines a hardship post, I think he was asking. (i.e. why is most of africa a hardship)

Skandiaavity
Apr 20, 2005
BOF, I'm taking it in two weeks, but not this Saturday.


Not sure why I got the invite, either, but I'm assuming it has to do with a recent application?

Skandiaavity
Apr 20, 2005

Business of Ferrets posted:

Make sure you're comfortable with modern American English grammar and usage. Learn the main premise of the Constitution's amendments and articles. For the bio section, don't be modest. Be an attention whore. And focus on the multiple choice aspects of the bio; only write the absolute minimum allowed for the bio comments, since it takes time and the multiplt choice is where you get the points.

Oh, and follow all directions to the letter.

Good luck!

Whoa, this is crazy useful ;)

just sitting in the capitol building now on some other work, but really just waiting for Toyoda. Gonna be an interesting testimony, but I hate how CNN's already spun it that "TOYOTA = ALL JAPANESE BRAND REPUTATION."

Skandiaavity
Apr 20, 2005

Miss Fats posted:

Pretty nervous about this FSOT Monday.

I think I can pass the FSOT but I doubt I will get past the QEP. I have basically no international experience but I am just trying to get experience with the process and hoping to somehow slip through the cracks.

I think at this point I would definitely accept any cone offer I got. I applied for political but I think this job would be quite a bit of fun no matter the details.

Hey, cool! We're taking it on the same day! Afternoon or Evening?

Also: need to study, need to study..

Skandiaavity
Apr 20, 2005
ah, I'm in the evening. Have a bunch of meetings I can't miss in the afternoon.


Checking my schedule, it looks like I'm having to go into this year's test blind, too. Haven't any time to study except for right now and about thirty minutes tomorrow.

any quickie pointers? I've got most of constitution/bill of rights memorized.

Skandiaavity
Apr 20, 2005
Welp, just took the FSOT. I got the loaded "Immigration" question and finished it with less than a second to spare. Hope that period made it in, and hope I make it to the QEP.

Skandiaavity
Apr 20, 2005
it was covered earlier, but an IT Specialist in the FS is basically an all-in-one Systems Administrator. Has all of the duties, but you may or may not be given a specific duty at one time. Say this month you're doing a network install of outlook 2k7 and next month you're a help desk guy, then the following month you're installing Phones. The load gets dissolved with the bigger the embassy (more people to do the work), but at smaller embassies people have mentioned that they've been the sitting as the ISO role/level due to no one else being available.

Room/Board Allowances should be provided, but 'Cost of Living' isn't. You'll get money for rent, but don't expect to live in a swank high-rise? FS, like government jobs, pays way less than the private sector, [not sure if there's a FS Special Track for IT, though]

Skandiaavity
Apr 20, 2005
BOF, is it that bad? :(

Skandiaavity
Apr 20, 2005
I must have gotten the easy PNQ, because they all had a 500 character limits. It was like "DO YOU HAVE MANAGEMENT EXPERIENCE" or "DID YOU EVER USE A TELEPHONE BEFORE? PLEASE LIST WHICH JOBS YOU'VE HELD THAT YOU'VE USED A TELEPHONE WITH BEFORE."

Skandiaavity
Apr 20, 2005
Edit: SWATJester, I also applied for an IMS vacancy awhile ago. Still waiting to hear back on that, hope I make it

Skandiaavity
Apr 20, 2005
welp, didn't get selected for the FSOT. :argh: Bet it's the biographical, sent for more info. (And I'm still hoping for the IMTS position)

SwatJester, good luck!

Skandiaavity
Apr 20, 2005

Vilerat posted:

No even IT people have to go to the fancy parties. Fancy parties are not fun, they are horrible work events where you schmooze with people who act moderately important and you try and make smalltalk or else the DCM slaps your knuckles with a ruler.

its like this across the board, even in the consulting & lobbying sector, FYI. Soirees :argh:

Skandiaavity
Apr 20, 2005
Congratulations, SWATJester! 5.67 is pretty sweet, Ride that pony!

Happydayz: whoa, I didn't realize State was on a massive hiring blitz this year.

Skandiaavity
Apr 20, 2005
BOF/TCD - can you explain more about the IMS/IMTS hiring process? Is it akin to a normal federal job interview, or is there a special aspect about it (in regards to foreign service)


vvvv- sweet, Thanks. It just takes 6 months, eh? :) Also, the company that holds the certification (ISC2/CISSP) is getting back to me this week on my certification credentials, after an unacceptable crapload of delays dealing with the weather, employee issues, etc. Do I just contact someone in HR/fax in the updated info with the same # and reference that was used for applying along with the updated information, or is there a specific process/POC for this?

Skandiaavity fucked around with this message at 21:09 on Apr 7, 2010

Skandiaavity
Apr 20, 2005
BOF - LOL @ Saudi Arabia. That's an ingenious plan.

Vilerat & TCD, thanks for your input. Appreciate it. I guess I'll contact HR and clue them in with the certification's updates when it comes in. (Hope I hear good news from the QEP)

Happydayz, Thanks. I suppose it [marginally?] increases our chances of getting more goons in the FS if they're on a blitz.


Miss Fats, from a few friends Facebook's statuses, it seems USAID is also hiring a lot of people. Fairly sure they have opportunities in Ghana and the area.

Skandiaavity
Apr 20, 2005
BOF- wasn't it only recently (within the past decade) that State formally got their boots on the Human Trafficking from the public perspective, wasn't it?

Definitely, traveling to Thailand and Haiti have made for interesting security clearance questions, though. Really sad how much kids go for. :smith:

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Skandiaavity
Apr 20, 2005

Vilerat posted:

You are going to love that course a whole bunch. They add one some weapons familiarity training that is worthless, but the driving portion really teaches you some fun skills. Driving fast through cones is great and the skid track was a lot of fun. Ramming through another car of course is the highlight.

Same as the homeland course! Do they still give you the good ol' shitbox vs a GMC Suburban?

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