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Sixgun Strumpet
Feb 16, 2009

I suspect I am still
terribly pleased.

Dr Ozziemandius posted:

gently caress yes.

Then buy a feeler gauge and barrel wrench and every slab side barrel length these guys ever get in stock, and be happy as a clam. Also, make sure that the little retaining screw that holds the cylinder latch on stays tight (it's on the front of the crane, and is just a tiny little hex head screw), maybe put a little locktite blue on it. Mine came off my .357 somewhere, and then it spent like 3 months at the gunsmith's trying to find a factory replacement screw. He never found one, but found specs and finally just made a tiny rod and threaded the end to match the original and locktited that sucker down. I now periodically check all my Dan Wessons after a range day, just to be safe. None have ever been loose but that one.

By any chance did EWK make that screw for you?

http://www.ewkarms.com/zencart/inde...d0eb65a3d47bebd

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thermobollocks
Jul 5, 2009

GET A DILLON

BrianM87 posted:

I just found a Dan Wesson .357 for $325 at a local shop. It's in fantastic shape, and it's an older one built in Monson, MA. It's blued and has a 4" barrel, but I don't know what model it is. Should I buy it anyways?

Joinnn usssss

Sixgun Strumpet
Feb 16, 2009

I suspect I am still
terribly pleased.

thermobollocks posted:

Joinnn usssss

Yeah, it's a great price on that gun. Plus with EWK making barrels and parts you can make your Dan Wesson pretty bitchin with a minimum of fuss or money.

When you get the gun I suggest getting one of the barrels from them, plus the gauge and barrel wrench.

Dr Ozziemandius
Apr 28, 2011

If MLP doesn't warm your heart, you're already Dead Inside.

Sixgun Strumpet posted:

By any chance did EWK make that screw for you?

http://www.ewkarms.com/zencart/inde...d0eb65a3d47bebd

No, I went through the small parts lists they've got and there's no crane latch retention screw listed, and it's much tinier than any in the pictures. I have no doubt that they would have made some if I contacted them, but by the time I'd thought about it, the smith had already made one. Since it's a totally non-loadbearding screw, and is really just a set screw to keep the latch from springing out of the top of the crane when it's open, I figured it's okay.

I am planning on emailing them to see if they might offer them in the future, as I'd like to grab a couple just to have on hand for emergency's sake. Shame to have such a great pistol out of commision for a non-essential part. I also hope to be able to plague them into making some stainless .41 magnum barrels , but I have no realistic hope of that going down.

Sixgun Strumpet
Feb 16, 2009

I suspect I am still
terribly pleased.

Dr Ozziemandius posted:

No, I went through the small parts lists they've got and there's no crane latch retention screw listed, and it's much tinier than any in the pictures. I have no doubt that they would have made some if I contacted them, but by the time I'd thought about it, the smith had already made one. Since it's a totally non-loadbearding screw, and is really just a set screw to keep the latch from springing out of the top of the crane when it's open, I figured it's okay.

I am planning on emailing them to see if they might offer them in the future, as I'd like to grab a couple just to have on hand for emergency's sake. Shame to have such a great pistol out of commision for a non-essential part. I also hope to be able to plague them into making some stainless .41 magnum barrels , but I have no realistic hope of that going down.

Yeah, I'd buy a blued .41 mag barrel, but probably only one.

I bet once they have the .44 mag barrels up and cooking the jump to a .41 mag barrel won't be too out there.

My plan is to keep buying things from them, even if I don't truly want them (I'm frankly really drat pleased with the 6" barrel on that .22lr I just bought) to do my part to keep them in business. On a long enough timeline I assume they will be able to greatly expand their product line.

Capn Beeb
Jun 29, 2003

Can it be fired with a massive erection?



PenisMonkey posted:

The last time I went to Wal-Mart they had a box of .45LC... 20 rounds... $23. gently caress that.

Last time I saw it in my shop they wanted $50 for 50, Remington lead RNFP.

This is the same shop with the $39 9mm Glock mags, and $700 590A1s, though.

Gtab
Dec 9, 2003

cop killer
cop killer
cop killer


Capn Beeb posted:

Last time I saw it in my shop they wanted $50 for 50, Remington lead RNFP.

This is the same shop with the $39 9mm Glock mags, and $700 590A1s, though.

your gun store is in Canada?

Capn Beeb
Jun 29, 2003

Can it be fired with a massive erection?



Gtab posted:

your gun store is in Canada?

Darn tootin'!

*hangs confederate flag over redcoat mannequin*

A FUCKIN CANARY!!
Nov 9, 2005



My Blackhawk came with boring black plastic grips, so I purchased these less boring ones.

Basticle
Sep 12, 2011


stupid wheelgun-newbie question: is there a name for this shape of grip?






and are they as awesome as they look?

Sixgun Strumpet
Feb 16, 2009

I suspect I am still
terribly pleased.

Basticle posted:

stupid wheelgun-newbie question: is there a name for this shape of grip?






and are they as awesome as they look?

Uh, I don't know if there is a name for that shape, at least not one everyone uses. Possibly "Combat Grips", or if I understand what you are asking you might be referring to the Finger Grooves in the grips?

They are basically a longer full sized grip usually used when you don't have the same need for concealment or you want to be able to handle .357 magnum better. They are a very comfortable style of grip for most people, and are particularly useful for open carry or hiking.

For concealed carry something like "Boot Grips" would be more common. A much smaller grip that has your pinky and part of your ring finger sort of wrapped around the bottom or hanging off the end. They are surprisingly comfortable once you realize that the recoil is going into the palm of your hand and you really don't need every finger on the grip to be accurate.

areyoucontagious
Jun 13, 2007

Hell is other people.


A FUCKIN CANARY!! posted:

My Blackhawk came with boring black plastic grips, so I purchased these less boring ones.



That is a beautiful gun! I really like the wood on that. I just put a down payment on one of these:


I'm glad I won't have to replace the grip, I really dig the walnut on these.

infrared35
Jan 12, 2005



Basticle posted:

stupid wheelgun-newbie question: is there a name for this shape of grip?






and are they as awesome as they look?

S&W calls that one the J-frame synthetic full size grip and it is pretty comfy, but it's not as concealable as a boot grip.

MadBimber
Dec 31, 2006


So, I have had the idea of buying a wheel gun kicking around in my head for a while. Being that I just got a tax return, I started cruising around the internet looking at some different models.

I was curious about other shooters' experiences with Uberti replicas? As replicas go I've only dealt with old Pietta revolvers, which work well enough. I really like the look of their SAA and break tops, although the latter is waaaay too pricey. I'm not terribly concerned about accuracy, my eye sight is bad as it is. I would however prefer not to have something explode in my hand, or be ripped off by a middling product.

Thoughts?

Also, comedy option: Nagant revolver, be a russian cowboy.

PenisMonkey
Apr 30, 2004

Be gentally.

All the CAS people I know prefer the Uberti over other replicas for a SAA. They don't suck but that doesn't mean other replicas do. My Uberti is a pretty good gun.

Mishaco
May 4, 2005


I had a handful of S&W Models 10-7 and 10-8 come in today. It has been a few months since i was tempted by a Smith, but I like the looks of these 10-8s. All have pinned barrels too, woot.

Dr Ozziemandius
Apr 28, 2011

If MLP doesn't warm your heart, you're already Dead Inside.

My favorite shop called today to tell me that my dad's Remington Model 37 came in, so I went to meet him when he picked it up (incoming Classy Dad box thread btw), and checked out a couple new revolvers that just came off pawn and some from an auction got them to set a couple back for me. Can anyone help me ID some of these and maybe get an idea of what they might be worth? Sorry for the lovely phone pics, I'll go get some real shots of them this weekend with a good camera to get details and numbers if I need 'em.

This one's gonna break your heart, Sixgun, and I'm definitely buying it. Beautiful little Model 33 (I guess?), grips are flawless, barely a turn line on it, trigger and hammer look great, basically looks unfired. But then there's the goddamn "X" some loving retarded hilljack decided to carve into the side of the frame next to the grips.


gently caress it. Still awesome gun. Gonna shoot the poo poo out of it. Plus, it's like $225.

Next one I'm really interested in is a Colt Official Police. What the hell is this? Never seen one. The finish was in great shape, lockup and everything is great. Cylinder latch is nice and tight and doesn't wiggle. Grips are nice. Can't remember the price, but it was around $400 on the sticker, which means I can get it for a fair bit less than that if I haggle, and a lot less if I combo buy. They'll hold it for me until I feel like picking it up if I ask.



I have no idea what model Smith this is, but I like the front sight ramp, and the grips and the big ol' hammer. I forgot the caliber, and the pic of the other side is illegible. The other side's grip is beat to poo poo and the wood's finish is bad, but the blue was fine, and the price was around $325, negotiable.


Here's the sights on it.


This guy was a neat old fellow, I guess a Hand Ejector/M&P? Has ridges on the trigger, so post-1923? The '&' in Smith & Wesson is really elongated and strange looking on it, I'll get a better pic next time. Bluing is worn awesomely, and it was around $225. Already had them throw this one in the "hold it till later box".




This one's a factory engraved .45LC the shop owner picked up for himself, it's not for sale, but I thought I'd grab a pic of it while I was there.




Basically, I'm gonna pick up the X-marked treasure this weekend and the older, worn .38 eventually. I guess my question is, would the Colt or the other Smith be worth having them hold for me? They'll pretty much hang on to them till whenever, so I can fit them into gun budget as it comes available.

My new revolver fixation has suspiciously coincided with the filling of the long-gun section of my safe

Dr Ozziemandius fucked around with this message at May 4, 2012 around 00:59

IuniusBrutus
Jul 24, 2010

I WANT A PONY TOO


God dammit.

If I had a store like that around here I'd have no money left.

Gtab
Dec 9, 2003

cop killer
cop killer
cop killer


"hilljack" was funnier to me than it probably should have been

iyaayas01
Feb 19, 2010

Perry'd


IuniusBrutus posted:

If I had a store like that around here I'd have no money left.

Yup.

As for the mystery guns, the Official Police is Colt's equivalent to Smith's Military & Police...chances are if you were a cop in the U.S. from about 1930 until 1960 you carried one of those two guns (unless you were a baller rolling with a .357 Magnum or Python or something). The Smith looks like a Model 15 (originally called the Combat Masterpiece). It was a Model 14 (Target Masterpiece) modified for combat shooting; the Model 14 was a target version of the Model 10, so the Model 15 is basically a Model 10 with a better trigger and adjustable/improved sights. It is pretty much the pinnacle of .38 Special combat revolvers. I love mine:



e: Forgot to add, the "really elongated and weird looking" ampersand thing is how Smith stamped their guns back in the day. It's known as the "lazy ampersand." I haven't seen there being an exact date they switched over, but the usual dividing line seems to be right around the mid to late '60s.

My .44 Magnum was manufactured in 1957, so the frame looks like this:



but it was rebarreled in 1975, so the ampersand on the barrel looks like this:

iyaayas01 fucked around with this message at May 4, 2012 around 01:31

Dr Ozziemandius
Apr 28, 2011

If MLP doesn't warm your heart, you're already Dead Inside.

IuniusBrutus posted:

God dammit.

If I had a store like that around here I'd have no money left.

One of the few advantages to living in this area is pawn shop grazing. The long heritage of country folk that loved their guns and handed them down for generations has given way as more and more pillheads inherit from their folks. They then eventually pawn 'em for gently caress all, and if they do buy them back, they just keep pawning them until they can't, and then someone like me can come in and rescue them and take them to a proper home where they'll be loved and cared for and oiled and shot like god intended.

Once I clear out my box o' guns at the shop this summer, I may do a "What I've found at Pawnshops" thread just for the hell of it, there's been some really nice guns around here.

Gtab posted:

"hilljack" was funnier to me than it probably should have been

For future reference, it's a bit more insulting than "hillbilly", as a lot of them take pride in that now. Handy little tidbit for ya, there.


iyaayas01 posted:

Yup.

As for the mystery guns, the Official Police is Colt's equivalent to Smith's Military & Police...chances are if you were a cop in the U.S. from about 1930 until 1960 you carried one of those two guns (unless you were a baller rolling with a .357 Magnum or Python or something). The Smith looks like a Model 15 (originally called the Combat Masterpiece). It was a Model 14 (Target Masterpiece) modified for combat shooting; the Model 14 was a target version of the Model 10, so the Model 15 is basically a Model 10 with a better trigger and adjustable/improved sights. It is pretty much the pinnacle of .38 Special combat revolvers. I love mine:



e: Forgot to add, the "really elongated and weird looking" ampersand thing is how Smith stamped their guns back in the day. It's known as the "lazy ampersand." I haven't seen there being an exact date they switched over, but the usual dividing line seems to be right around the mid to late '60s.

My .44 Magnum was manufactured in 1957, so the frame looks like this:



but it was rebarreled in 1975, so the ampersand on the barrel looks like this:



Yeah, that fat & on the frame is what it looks like.

So, what you're saying is "Buy all the guns". I'll go get some better pics of the Colt and the 15 on Saturday. Are there any features I should look for in particular for certain years or models? Sounds like the Model 15 with some new grips is gonna be a keeper.

Dr Ozziemandius fucked around with this message at May 4, 2012 around 01:40

infrared35
Jan 12, 2005



Dr Ozziemandius posted:

"Buy all the guns"

That's my vote as well.

iyaayas01
Feb 19, 2010

Perry'd


Dr Ozziemandius posted:

Yeah, that fat & on the frame is what it looks like.

So, what you're saying is "Buy all the guns". I'll go get some better pics of the Colt and the 15 on Saturday. Are there any features I should look for in particular for certain years or models? Sounds like the Model 15 with some new grips is gonna be a keeper.

I don't know enough about Colts to speak intelligently to the Official Police, but with the Model 15 the first place to look is on the frame underneath the crane...there will more than likely be a "15-#" stamped there (if there's not that tells us something as well). The # will help narrow down the date the revolver was manufactured to a specific time period, as well as determining which features the gun should have (or not have). Also look for the number of screws on the sideplate...here's a good decent overview that's probably more effective than me explaining it.



A five screw gun will have all five, a four screw will have 1-4, and a three screw will have 1-3.

e: I just looked again at your pictures and unless my eyes are deceiving me that is a five screw gun, which means it was manufactured sometime between 1949-1955, that it will make you indescribably happy, that $325 is a pretty drat low price for that gun (even accounting for the fact that those aren't the original grips, not even the correct style), and that if you don't go back and pick it up you are a damned fool.

infrared35 posted:

That's my vote as well.

It's really the only correct answer.

iyaayas01 fucked around with this message at May 4, 2012 around 07:03

Dr Ozziemandius
Apr 28, 2011

If MLP doesn't warm your heart, you're already Dead Inside.

infrared35 posted:

That's my vote as well.

I'm strangely okay with this.

Found a better pic of the right side of the 15. I'll get some better pics tomorrow.



Also, here's a random slice of the revolver cabinet that was on my phone. Must have had an ND

Dr Ozziemandius fucked around with this message at May 4, 2012 around 11:42

Sixgun Strumpet
Feb 16, 2009

I suspect I am still
terribly pleased.

IuniusBrutus posted:

God dammit.

If I had a store like that around here I'd have no money left.

Uh, yeah. You have a great pawn shop there man. A lot of those guns are really awesome.

That model 33 and the M&P (which is a pre-10) are both amazingly good guns at that price. A steal at that price.

Dr Ozziemandius
Apr 28, 2011

If MLP doesn't warm your heart, you're already Dead Inside.

Sixgun Strumpet posted:

Uh, yeah. You have a great pawn shop there man. A lot of those guns are really awesome.

That model 33 and the M&P (which is a pre-10) are both amazingly good guns at that price. A steal at that price.

So, these two, right, just for clarity? I'm honestly probably gonna have them hold on to all of them for me and pick them up over the next couple weeks, but these two may come home with me in the morning. I didn't get back from my orthopod's appointment in time to get out there today, but I'm gonna go over in the morning and see if I can get a package price on 'em.





The shop owner's got a Smith fetish, and has been collecting for decades...I just know he's baiting me in with these deals for some godawful rarity that I'm gonna hafta go into debt for at some point

opengl128
Sep 16, 2010

This end up

Wtf is a barricade gun and why did they do this to this 586?

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vi...?Item=285001234

Sixgun Strumpet
Feb 16, 2009

I suspect I am still
terribly pleased.

Dr Ozziemandius posted:

So, these two, right, just for clarity? I'm honestly probably gonna have them hold on to all of them for me and pick them up over the next couple weeks, but these two may come home with me in the morning. I didn't get back from my orthopod's appointment in time to get out there today, but I'm gonna go over in the morning and see if I can get a package price on 'em.





The shop owner's got a Smith fetish, and has been collecting for decades...I just know he's baiting me in with these deals for some godawful rarity that I'm gonna hafta go into debt for at some point

Yeah, those are the two I would buy, fantastic prices.

Assuming they aren't broken.

Dr Ozziemandius
Apr 28, 2011

If MLP doesn't warm your heart, you're already Dead Inside.

Sixgun Strumpet posted:

Yeah, those are the two I would buy, fantastic prices.

Assuming they aren't broken.

The 33 is freakin' mint other than the goddamn X-mark. Ooooh, how I hate that X-mark . The pre-10 timing was on and seemed to lock up nice and tight, to my limited expertise, and the cylinder gap fit a dollar, but not a credit card, so I've kicked the doors and slammed the tires as far as I know to. It just had some honest wear, no real dings or bad scratches, no rust or pitting, and the grips have some modest chips, but no bad gouges. I didn't get a chance to check all the numbers or take the grips off of 'em yet, tho, but I'll do everything but grips tomorrow when I take pics. I'll probably grab some shots of some of their pricier pistols in the case, just to see what the hell they are, 'cause I really have no clue on some of those hand cannons on the bottom shelf.

The 33's for sure gonna come home with me, I really shouldn't have left it there in the first place. Think it's worth trying to have the X touched up with a bluing pen or something, since I'm gonna shoot the hell out of it anyway?

Edit: I also want to mention that I love the fact that they always have great prices on old as hell Smiths and revolvers, but they will surprise sex you on a new Judge if you insist on buying one.

VVVVV Righty-O, I'll make sure and check them all. Thanks a bunch.

Dr Ozziemandius fucked around with this message at May 4, 2012 around 23:34

Sixgun Strumpet
Feb 16, 2009

I suspect I am still
terribly pleased.

Dr Ozziemandius posted:

The 33 is freakin' mint other than the goddamn X-mark. Ooooh, how I hate that X-mark . The pre-10 timing was on and seemed to lock up nice and tight, to my limited expertise, and the cylinder gap fit a dollar, but not a credit card, so I've kicked the doors and slammed the tires as far as I know to. It just had some honest wear, no real dings or bad scratches, no rust or pitting, and the grips have some modest chips, but no bad gouges. I didn't get a chance to check all the numbers or take the grips off of 'em yet, tho, but I'll do everything but grips tomorrow when I take pics. I'll probably grab some shots of some of their pricier pistols in the case, just to see what the hell they are, 'cause I really have no clue on some of those hand cannons on the bottom shelf.

The 33's for sure gonna come home with me, I really shouldn't have left it there in the first place. Think it's worth trying to have the X touched up with a bluing pen or something, since I'm gonna shoot the hell out of it anyway?

Yeah, just cold blue it. That's a great deal on a pre 67 basically anything. X and All. Less then $250 for a pre-10 is also a steal.

Also, one thing that I don't know if the revolver checkout list mentions is that when you check lockup you want to check it up on every chamber.

I found a K-22 the other day that had great lockup for ever chamber except for one.

Edit: Side note: what is the Model 33 chambered in? .32 or .38 S&W?

Dr Ozziemandius
Apr 28, 2011

If MLP doesn't warm your heart, you're already Dead Inside.

Sixgun Strumpet posted:

Yeah, just cold blue it. That's a great deal on a pre 67 basically anything. X and All. Less then $250 for a pre-10 is also a steal.

Also, one thing that I don't know if the revolver checkout list mentions is that when you check lockup you want to check it up on every chamber.

I found a K-22 the other day that had great lockup for ever chamber except for one.

Edit: Side note: what is the Model 33 chambered in? .32 or .38 S&W?

You know, I forget off the top of my head. I want to say .38 S&W, but it may have been .32, b/c I wasn't really paying attention, I was too enraged by the hackery, and I didn't get a pic of the other side. The thing that makes me say .38 is that I thought pretty much everything was a .38 except the engraved .45... I'll look through my phone again and make sure I didn't get a pic of the other side of the barrel, but I don't believe I did, I just got the bad side.

Sixgun Strumpet
Feb 16, 2009

I suspect I am still
terribly pleased.

Dr Ozziemandius posted:

You know, I forget off the top of my head. I want to say .38 S&W, but it may have been .32, b/c I wasn't really paying attention, I was too enraged by the hackery, and I didn't get a pic of the other side. The thing that makes me say .38 is that I thought pretty much everything was a .38 except the engraved .45... I'll look through my phone again and make sure I didn't get a pic of the other side of the barrel, but I don't believe I did, I just got the bad side.

Just wanted to make sure you know that the gun may not be .38 special. The way they mark them is kind of misleading. You can have a .38 S&W and a .38 S&W Special.

infrared35
Jan 12, 2005



opengl128 posted:

Wtf is a barricade gun and why did they do this to this 586?

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vi...?Item=285001234



It's a competition gun designed to be shot from a barricade. I believe the holes serve as mounting points for barricade stops.

Dr Ozziemandius
Apr 28, 2011

If MLP doesn't warm your heart, you're already Dead Inside.

Sixgun Strumpet posted:

Just wanted to make sure you know that the gun may not be .38 special. The way they mark them is kind of misleading. You can have a .38 S&W and a .38 S&W Special.

If it is .38 S&W, where will I go about getting some, and I assume I can reload? Will it just not say 'Special' anywhere on the barrel if that's the case? For future reference, will a .38 Special fit in a .38 S&W cylinder and still close, or is this something I need to pay super close attention to in order to avoid kabooms?

Sixgun Strumpet
Feb 16, 2009

I suspect I am still
terribly pleased.

Dr Ozziemandius posted:

If it is .38 S&W, where will I go about getting some, and I assume I can reload? Will it just not say 'Special' anywhere on the barrel if that's the case? For future reference, will a .38 Special fit in a .38 S&W cylinder and still close, or is this something I need to pay super close attention to in order to avoid kabooms?

Completely different cartridges. .38 Spl shouldn't fit in a .38 S&W gun. Not sure about the reverse, but you don't want to try.

.38 S&W isn't really that hard to get. It's not common, but it is still in production.

http://gun-deals.com/ammo.php?caliber=.38+S%26W

FYI .38 S&W is the same as .38/200 British. It's the webley round.

Dr Ozziemandius
Apr 28, 2011

If MLP doesn't warm your heart, you're already Dead Inside.

Sixgun Strumpet posted:

Completely different cartridges. .38 Spl shouldn't fit in a .38 S&W gun. Not sure about the reverse, but you don't want to try.

.38 S&W isn't really that hard to get. It's not common, but it is still in production.

http://gun-deals.com/ammo.php?caliber=.38+S%26W

FYI .38 S&W is the same as .38/200 British. It's the webley round.


Alright, cool. Just wanted to make sure I wasn't gonna blow something up outta stupid. Would the cylinder be visibly much smaller, b/c none of the ones yesterday struck me as odd sized...

Edit: check your PM's btw

Sixgun Strumpet
Feb 16, 2009

I suspect I am still
terribly pleased.

Dr Ozziemandius posted:

Alright, cool. Just wanted to make sure I wasn't gonna blow something up outta stupid. Would the cylinder be visibly much smaller, b/c none of the ones yesterday struck me as odd sized...

Edit: check your PM's btw

No, it's still .38. If it were .32 you would notice.

As a side benefit of getting a .38 s&w (I think these were called terriers by the way) the really old antique pocket guns were often chambered in it, they are a lot of fun.

IuniusBrutus
Jul 24, 2010

I WANT A PONY TOO


Is this a decent price for a K22? It looks a little rough, so I wasn't sure.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vi...?Item=284605245

Ygolonac
Nov 26, 2007

FURRED STREET,
BITCHES!




Dr Ozziemandius posted:

Alright, cool. Just wanted to make sure I wasn't gonna blow something up outta stupid. Would the cylinder be visibly much smaller, b/c none of the ones yesterday struck me as odd sized...

Edit: check your PM's btw

A .38 S&W cylinder should be shorter than a .38 Special cartridge OAL - the idea was to keep that newfangled "Special" loading from exploding the older guns.

Oh, and to sell new guns for the new cartridge, of course.

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brac2009
Apr 15, 2010


Anyone know any good tricks for getting a ejector rod off a Model 19?

Its very worn and I have replacement, just cant get the old one off. Use a vice and turn counter clockwise inst working. Help!

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