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Droid Washington
Jul 26, 2007

Laser eyes are second only to the Robo-Constitution in importance; they are the robots' liberty's teeth.

We're getting our little kitty Hobbes neutered next Monday, and I was wondering what to do about pain killers. Through the adoption agency, we get the neuter for free at the vet, but pain killers cost extra. Cost is no problem, but the vet said most cats don't even know they've just been neutered. This sounds bizarre, is this really the case? I want to err on the side of caution and just get whatever pain reducers possible, but wasn't sure if pain reducers could actually cause more grief for the cat or whatever.

Just some background info. Hobbes is around 4 months old, and we've had him for half that time. We feed him a mix of Blue Buffalo Kitten wet, and dry. We've been taking him to the vet every 2 weeks since we adopted him to get rid of ringworm (which is finally gone!) He stays indoors only and is our only pet. We have one litter box for him which works perfect and so far no accidents!


Taken a few weeks ago, it's amazing how quickly they grow, I'm pretty sure he's at least 20% bigger since then!

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Braki
Aug 9, 2006

Happy birthday!


A cat neuter is a very quick surgery, but it is still surgery! Having your scrotum cut open and your balls removed will hurt. Yes, cats do typically recover very quickly after a neuter and also hide their pain very well, but pain management is still essential.

Also, congratulations on your new (and very handsome) kitty.

duckfarts
Jul 2, 2010

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Quick note: do not take off the collar after surgery until the cuts have absolutely healed, and not when "oh he seems ok" or "he doesn't seem to want to gently caress with it so it should be fine".

vonnegutt
Aug 7, 2006
Hobocamp.


When my cat got neutered they gave me syringes (no needles, just a little squirty thing) of painkillers for the pain. I wrestled my cat down exactly one time and managed to get about half of it in his mouth before he bolted. After that I tried squirting it on his paws so he would lick it off, but even then he didn't seem to care very much. He also didn't seem to notice that his balls were gone, apart from looking confused when he cleaned himself. Then again, he's not the smartest cat I've owned.

How much are the painkillers? It might be worth it to have some on hand in case your cat needs them. As far as I know, castration is much less invasive than spaying - my previous cat was a female and laid around for a couple days after her spay, and got a full course of painkillers.

WaffleStomp
May 7, 2007


So my cats have a tendency to puke up their dry food, most of the time a minute or two after they eat it, and, rarely, right as they're at the bowl. Does anyone have any idea why they'd be doing this? I've tried different brands of dry food, yet the problem still persists. If they're chowing down on wet food, this doesn't happen.

Any ideas as to what could be causing this? If it's of any help, there is nothing out of the ordinary about the dry food, it's your basic known brands.

Serella
Apr 24, 2008

Is that what you're posting?


WaffleStomp posted:

So my cats have a tendency to puke up their dry food, most of the time a minute or two after they eat it, and, rarely, right as they're at the bowl. Does anyone have any idea why they'd be doing this? I've tried different brands of dry food, yet the problem still persists. If they're chowing down on wet food, this doesn't happen.

Any ideas as to what could be causing this? If it's of any help, there is nothing out of the ordinary about the dry food, it's your basic known brands.

Your cats are fatasses who eat too fast. My cat does the same thing sometimes too. You can try getting a special food bowl that has parts inside it that stick up so the cats can't just inhale the food so fast they barf. Or you can just put a tennis ball in the bowl that they have to eat around which has the same effect.

duckfarts
Jul 2, 2010

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Serella posted:

Your cats are fatasses who eat too fast. My cat does the same thing sometimes too. You can try getting a special food bowl that has parts inside it that stick up so the cats can't just inhale the food so fast they barf. Or you can just put a tennis ball in the bowl that they have to eat around which has the same effect.
Another strategy which can help is to only give them a little bit first(like 1/5 or so), then put out the rest after 5 minutes. This way, they may eat a bit slower because they're not loving STARVING after having a bit.

Duckie
Sep 12, 2010

This is sewious!


WaffleStomp posted:

So my cats have a tendency to puke up their dry food, most of the time a minute or two after they eat it, and, rarely, right as they're at the bowl. Does anyone have any idea why they'd be doing this? I've tried different brands of dry food, yet the problem still persists. If they're chowing down on wet food, this doesn't happen.

Any ideas as to what could be causing this? If it's of any help, there is nothing out of the ordinary about the dry food, it's your basic known brands.

You could try something like this: http://www.amazon.com/Catit-Design-...0016866&sr=1-45

It has pretty good reviews and is only 16$.

Esmerelda
Dec 1, 2009


Duckie posted:

You could try something like this: http://www.amazon.com/Catit-Design-...0016866&sr=1-45

It has pretty good reviews and is only 16$.
Oh my, Watson would love that! And I would stop finding food spread throughout the dinning area and kitchen. However I think Figaro might just be confused by it. He already loses his treats on a regular basis (they're usually under him, he's kinda dumb.)

Geno
Apr 26, 2004
STUPID
DICK


Thinking about adopting a cat, sometime next week. It'll be the first time I have ever owned a pet so I really have no idea how adoptions work.

Obviously, I want the cat to be as pain-free for me as possible (no peeing on the carpet, scratching the furniture, etc). I’ll probably get an adult but is there any way to predict how a cat will act just by being with it for a couple minutes at the adoption agency? I’ll ask the people there for help in picking a cat for me.

Anybody try out self-cleaning litter boxes? Most of the reviews for them have below 4 starts, thinking about buying this one:
http://www.amazon.com/Brilliant-Pet...30031012&sr=8-2

Topoisomerase
Apr 12, 2007

CULTURE OF VICIOUSNESS


Huge Liability posted:

He heaves dramatically like cats do, but then he goes stiff and falls on the ground choking, tail all fluffed up and claws out, trembling. When this happens we rub his neck until he's able to throw up. Afterwards, he lays down and stays very still for an hour. It's scary and it sucks. I don't want to think about it happening when we're not around.

We're going to get a ceramic ball to put in his dish to force him to eat slower, and until then we're just feeding him really carefully. But about the choking episodes, is this a "cat just eats too much" thing or is it something that should be looked into?

My "do not put any actual merit in what I say as I am only a vet student and have not seen the animal" idea is that this is an episode of vasovagal syncope, which happens but is definitely not anywhere approaching the neighborhood of "normal" and CAN be life threatening. Other possibilities for this are just as icky, like seizure and such. Either way, I'm glad that you are going to try to get the cat to the vet.

duckfarts
Jul 2, 2010

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Geno posted:

Thinking about adopting a cat, sometime next week. It'll be the first time I have ever owned a pet so I really have no idea how adoptions work.

Obviously, I want the cat to be as pain-free for me as possible (no peeing on the carpet, scratching the furniture, etc). I’ll probably get an adult but is there any way to predict how a cat will act just by being with it for a couple minutes at the adoption agency? I’ll ask the people there for help in picking a cat for me.

Anybody try out self-cleaning litter boxes? Most of the reviews for them have below 4 starts, thinking about buying this one:
http://www.amazon.com/Brilliant-Pet...30031012&sr=8-2
Litter Robot (the big fuckoff death orb one) is the only universally goon-recommended one, and the Litter Maid (rake style) is generally a piece of poo poo that will break on you.

If you need something economical, the Omega Paw rolly box (still manual, but no manual sifting) is pretty awesome, and I can vouch for that one.

As for cat behavior, based on your needs, do not get a kitten.

Serella
Apr 24, 2008

Is that what you're posting?


Geno posted:

Thinking about adopting a cat, sometime next week. It'll be the first time I have ever owned a pet so I really have no idea how adoptions work.

Obviously, I want the cat to be as pain-free for me as possible (no peeing on the carpet, scratching the furniture, etc). I’ll probably get an adult but is there any way to predict how a cat will act just by being with it for a couple minutes at the adoption agency? I’ll ask the people there for help in picking a cat for me.

Anybody try out self-cleaning litter boxes? Most of the reviews for them have below 4 starts, thinking about buying this one:
http://www.amazon.com/Brilliant-Pet...30031012&sr=8-2

Definitely see if any places have cats in foster homes for adoption. The fosterer will be able to tell you more about how the cat's personality is after spending a few weeks or even months with him/her. Otherwise, it's pretty hard to gauge a cat's personality at a shelter, even if they're free-roam in a cat room, unless you spend extended time with them. Talk to the shelter staff and see what they can tell you about individual cats. Ahead of time, think of what kind of cat you want -- some cats are standoffish and very independent from their owners while others are basically velcro-cats who are constantly whoring themselves for pets. If you know what kind of cat you want and what would fit into your life, the staff should be able to help you.

Pick
Jul 19, 2009

Share food?


2508084 posted:

Try a feliway diffuser. I got one and my nutball calmed down significantly the first day.

Thanks for this advice! I got the diffuser and it's been amazing. I wish I'd known there was a magic "make cat less of an rear end in a top hat" chemical. It's great!

Chin Strap
Nov 24, 2002

I failed my TFLC Toxx, but I no longer need a double chin strap

Introducing a new cat to the house where we already have one. The old cat is mad to the max. We put the new cat in the second bedroom, let her get comfortable for a few days, and tried to introduce the two cats in the bathroom. The new cat was chill, but the old one just cowered in a corner, hissing and growling the whole time. I know that is normal and hope things calm down.

The big question is, the old cat will hiss at us if she even smells the new cat on our hands. Is that normal? It seems really over the top.

Currently we have swapped the two cats to make the old one get use to the new cat's smell, we'll see how it goes.

Kruller
Feb 20, 2004

It's time to restore dignity to the Farnsworth name!


Are there any specific recommendations for what litter to use in a Litter Robot? I decided to get one since I discovered I dislike cleaning the litter box, and I needed it to be covered since my dog discovered she likes to see what cat poop tastes like. Will anything other than absorbing clay work? Or something like Swheat Scoop or World's Best?

marshmallard
Apr 15, 2005

This post is about me.

Kruller posted:

Are there any specific recommendations for what litter to use in a Litter Robot? I decided to get one since I discovered I dislike cleaning the litter box, and I needed it to be covered since my dog discovered she likes to see what cat poop tastes like. Will anything other than absorbing clay work? Or something like Swheat Scoop or World's Best?

It says on the website what litters it works with. They even have their own.

duckfarts
Jul 2, 2010

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Kruller posted:

Are there any specific recommendations for what litter to use in a Litter Robot? I decided to get one since I discovered I dislike cleaning the litter box, and I needed it to be covered since my dog discovered she likes to see what cat poop tastes like. Will anything other than absorbing clay work? Or something like Swheat Scoop or World's Best?
Even though I use it myself in the "manual" version(it's flushable), don't use a litter that turns into sawdust; it won't clump, and as such, it'll stay around and get nasty after a while.

Esmerelda
Dec 1, 2009


Chin Strap posted:

Introducing a new cat to the house where we already have one. The old cat is mad to the max. We put the new cat in the second bedroom, let her get comfortable for a few days, and tried to introduce the two cats in the bathroom. The new cat was chill, but the old one just cowered in a corner, hissing and growling the whole time. I know that is normal and hope things calm down.

The big question is, the old cat will hiss at us if she even smells the new cat on our hands. Is that normal? It seems really over the top.

Currently we have swapped the two cats to make the old one get use to the new cat's smell, we'll see how it goes.
Get a feliway diffuser if you don't have one, it might help.

As for the hissing at you, I had a cat do that when we brought him home a kitten. The kitten stayed in a room by herself for four days and whenever the resident cat had to pass by the door he'd puff, hiss and then growl as he ran off. And if you'd been touching the kitten he'd do the same thing. Then one day that stopped, it was like he realized "oh, it's another cat!" or something.

That, though, is best case scenario. Some cats can take weeks to acclimate to one another and even then they never do more than tolerate one another. Some cats just flat out don't like company. You're doing everything you should do, be patient and I'd say as long as there is no aggression you're doing okay. Definitely get the diffuser though.

tronester
Aug 12, 2004
People hear what they want to hear.

I have a 7 month old tabby female who is usually nice, but often she really enjoys play biting me.

Her little teeth are quite sharp, and often draw blood, so I have resorted to a spray bottle of water that I squirt her with when she bites. This seems to work somewhat well. Are there any better methods of controlling her sometimes incessant biting?

Stew Man Chew
Sep 14, 2008

Permission to treat the witness as hostile?



It's a young cat so she'll be a bit frisky. How do you react to the biting? If you make a loud, slightly exaggerated "YOWP!" sound when she does it she'll probably cease and desist. Other options for general cat deterrence I've found work are canned air dusters or a can/cup full of coins you can shake to make a noise.

Crash BandiCute
Nov 7, 2004

Dona Nobis Pacem

Can someone give me some advice?

About two hours ago my cat got her paw jammed in the doorframe. She let out a loud yowl. I was closing the door normally - not slamming it, so the pressure wasn't particularly intense, but it sounded painful - she has never made a noise in pain before when accidentally having her tail stepped on etc. Her tail fur stood on end too.

She limped as she ran away and held up her paw. I gave her some treats and she ran straight to them and even tried to steal them away from the other cat. When I examined her paw and moved it about she didn't react to me touching it.

I went out for an hour or so and now I'm back in she's behaving normally, I've moved her paw from side to side, up and down, in circles, and checked all the claws and it all seems fine, and she's not limping.

It seems like she's completely fine but I just want to make sure I shouldn't be doing anything else, ie calling the vet. There are no signs now that the paw is sore but I'm worried after hearing her miaow like that when it happened =/

duckfarts
Jul 2, 2010

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Crash BandiCute posted:

Can someone give me some advice?

About two hours ago my cat got her paw jammed in the doorframe. She let out a loud yowl. I was closing the door normally - not slamming it, so the pressure wasn't particularly intense, but it sounded painful - she has never made a noise in pain before when accidentally having her tail stepped on etc. Her tail fur stood on end too.

She limped as she ran away and held up her paw. I gave her some treats and she ran straight to them and even tried to steal them away from the other cat. When I examined her paw and moved it about she didn't react to me touching it.

I went out for an hour or so and now I'm back in she's behaving normally, I've moved her paw from side to side, up and down, in circles, and checked all the claws and it all seems fine, and she's not limping.

It seems like she's completely fine but I just want to make sure I shouldn't be doing anything else, ie calling the vet. There are no signs now that the paw is sore but I'm worried after hearing her miaow like that when it happened =/
FYI: Cats can be pretty durable.

Crash BandiCute
Nov 7, 2004

Dona Nobis Pacem

duckfarts posted:

FYI: Cats can be pretty durable.

yeah, I think it's fine now. I'd be surprised if it wasn't a bit sore, but she's probably feeling grumpier about being examined several times.

fknlo
Jul 6, 2009

No, fuck you.



Enelrahc posted:

You should probably take her back to your vet before assuming that it's something other than whatever was causing her fever.

The vet had me bring in more stool samples and couldn't find anything wrong at all so they suggested a diet change. Went to a local pet store and they recommended Fromm 4 star Surf & Turf for dry and gave me some free samples of Lotus canned cat food.

Dogen
May 5, 2002

Bury my body down by the highwayside, so that my old evil spirit can get a Greyhound bus and ride


Kruller posted:

Are there any specific recommendations for what litter to use in a Litter Robot? I decided to get one since I discovered I dislike cleaning the litter box, and I needed it to be covered since my dog discovered she likes to see what cat poop tastes like. Will anything other than absorbing clay work? Or something like Swheat Scoop or World's Best?

I have used world's best in ours for years and it works great. Swheat scoop doesn't work in it right at all.

Horrible Smutbeast
Sep 2, 2011


Quick question.

The apartment I moved into has one roommate who owns a kitten (a female cat roughly just under 1 year old). The owner is a bit of a party girl and never really comes home, and currently, has hosed off without warning for a week which I learnt from her friend who let herself in to take care of the cat. I mean, her friend has a key to our apartment and building which is an issue in itself, but whatever.

The cat has not been spayed. The cat has already been in heat once according to the other room mate. The owner is also too lazy to get the cat spayed, as I even gave her the info for a human society clinic that specializes in doing low cost spays ($60 and an hours drive versus $600 at the local vet) and she says that she'll get it done someday, but not soon because there's parties all week! < not even joking.

What exactly can I do if the cat goes into heat while she is not around? I'm not doing any weird rear end q-tip stuff to it, but I'm not going to be able to stand being in the apartment while a cat's screaming and running around. I'm also not comfortable with the joke answer of sneaking it to the vet to get spayed. Any ideas?

RheaConfused
Jan 22, 2004

Can you break a hundred?

Horrible Smutbeast posted:

Quick question.

The apartment I moved into has one roommate who owns a kitten (a female cat roughly just under 1 year old). The owner is a bit of a party girl and never really comes home, and currently, has hosed off without warning for a week which I learnt from her friend who let herself in to take care of the cat. I mean, her friend has a key to our apartment and building which is an issue in itself, but whatever.

The cat has not been spayed. The cat has already been in heat once according to the other room mate. The owner is also too lazy to get the cat spayed, as I even gave her the info for a human society clinic that specializes in doing low cost spays ($60 and an hours drive versus $600 at the local vet) and she says that she'll get it done someday, but not soon because there's parties all week! < not even joking.

What exactly can I do if the cat goes into heat while she is not around? I'm not doing any weird rear end q-tip stuff to it, but I'm not going to be able to stand being in the apartment while a cat's screaming and running around. I'm also not comfortable with the joke answer of sneaking it to the vet to get spayed. Any ideas?

Ask her for the money and offer to take her yourself. She's a jerk but spaying is the best answer, so if she's just lazy your life will be better for it.

Horrible Smutbeast
Sep 2, 2011


RheaConfused posted:

Ask her for the money and offer to take her yourself. She's a jerk but spaying is the best answer, so if she's just lazy your life will be better for it.

I did but she won't give me an answer, she keeps saying she'll "think about it" and "might not have the money."

ladyweapon
Nov 6, 2010

It reads all over his face,
like he's an Italian.


Horrible Smutbeast posted:

I did but she won't give me an answer, she keeps saying she'll "think about it" and "might not have the money."
Have you looked into non-profit programs who do spaying for feral cats? Its not the best option, as they'll clip the cat's ear (because this is how they know a feral has been spayed/neutered if it comes back into their facility), but its better than that cat having a ton of kittens. The one in my county costs 20$ to spay or neuter a feral cat.

vv That too.

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duckfarts
Jul 2, 2010

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Horrible Smutbeast posted:

I did but she won't give me an answer, she keeps saying she'll "think about it" and "might not have the money."
OBVIOUS ANSWER => Perhaps she shouldn't have a cat.

Josh Lyman
May 24, 2009

What in God's name
is happening
right now?


We gave the kittens a bath tonight, and in the process, Leo took a poop in the shower stall. That in itself isn't so bad since they were otherwise cooperative during the bath, but we saw tapeworm segments in his poop.

Thing is, we checked his butt for dried tapeworm segments about a week ago when I posted this:

Josh Lyman posted:

My kittens were playing with me in bed this morning, and I found this "residue" on my sheets. I've seen it before. I would think they're flea eggs, but the sheer quantity of them 's me out. Plus, Google seems to say flea eggs are transparent.



...and his butt was clean. Furthermore, we've dosed them with Revolution 3 times since their last vet visit at the beginning of December. They had tapeworms at the time, but the vet gave us two doses of tablets for the tapeworms.

We haven't combed them for fleas in about a week, but all this time we've had them on Revolution, we've always combed out a few fleas.

Any thoughts on what we should do? Revolution is supposed to be the strongest med.

Enelrahc
Jun 17, 2007



Josh Lyman posted:

We gave the kittens a bath tonight, and in the process, Leo took a poop in the shower stall. That in itself isn't so bad since they were otherwise cooperative during the bath, but we saw tapeworm segments in his poop.

Thing is, we checked his butt for dried tapeworm segments about a week ago when I posted this:

...and his butt was clean. Furthermore, we've dosed them with Revolution 3 times since their last vet visit at the beginning of December. They had tapeworms at the time, but the vet gave us two doses of tablets for the tapeworms.

We haven't combed them for fleas in about a week, but all this time we've had them on Revolution, we've always combed out a few fleas.

Any thoughts on what we should do? Revolution is supposed to be the strongest med.
Tapeworms take a couple of months to get big enough to have poop segments, so your cats probably ate a flea after they got their last praziquantel in the beginning of December. The flea doesn't even have to be alive to pass a tapeworm.

It sounds like you have a flea infestation. You probably need professional help either with extermination or carpet steam cleaning. Check the flea control megathread for more details.

Horrible Smutbeast
Sep 2, 2011


duckfarts posted:

Perhaps she shouldn't have a cat.

That's how the other roommates and I feel but I guess there's not much we can do beyond investing in ear plugs then. I'm not comfortable with taking her cat in for a major surgery when she's not around, no matter how "good" it may be for the cat's sake. I don't think she feels very strongly about spaying her cat since ours is neutered, she's never around to suffer and she has better things to spend her money on. I'll see if her friend who feeds the cat will take her in if she goes into heat.

I guess we'll know that if I post again ha-ha.

RheaConfused
Jan 22, 2004

Can you break a hundred?

Horrible Smutbeast posted:

That's how the other roommates and I feel but I guess there's not much we can do beyond investing in ear plugs then. I'm not comfortable with taking her cat in for a major surgery when she's not around, no matter how "good" it may be for the cat's sake. I don't think she feels very strongly about spaying her cat since ours is neutered, she's never around to suffer and she has better things to spend her money on. I'll see if her friend who feeds the cat will take her in if she goes into heat.

I guess we'll know that if I post again ha-ha.

I would offer to pay for it. Your life is going to suuuuiuuuck when she's in heat.

Serella
Apr 24, 2008

Is that what you're posting?


Horrible Smutbeast posted:

That's how the other roommates and I feel but I guess there's not much we can do beyond investing in ear plugs then. I'm not comfortable with taking her cat in for a major surgery when she's not around, no matter how "good" it may be for the cat's sake. I don't think she feels very strongly about spaying her cat since ours is neutered, she's never around to suffer and she has better things to spend her money on. I'll see if her friend who feeds the cat will take her in if she goes into heat.

I guess we'll know that if I post again ha-ha.

Honestly, tell her the cat needs to be fixed or go, and that you'll get your landlord involved if nothing changes. She shouldn't own a cat and you shouldn't have to put up with this poo poo, so don't.

Chimp_On_Stilts
Aug 31, 2004
Holy Hell.

My cat (a bit under a year old) loves to chew on cardboard. He will chomp the flaps of boxes a couple times per day. There's one box in particular that he likes, and he's basically destroyed an entire edge of it by just chewing / biting on it.

Is this indicative of some kind of problem? Will it damage his teeth, or is it okay?

EDIT: He doesn't appear to be eating the cardboard, just chewing on it.

Chimp_On_Stilts fucked around with this message at Feb 26, 2012 around 20:17

four lean hounds
Feb 16, 2012


The shy kitten is finally warming up to us! He has come as far as to sniff curiously at hands and feet and if you reach down to pet him during his investigation, he will allow it! So far I have had two successful petting sessions with him, which is a vast improvement over where he was a week ago with us. He still runs from us whenever we move, but hopefully that will work itself out in time as well.

Higgs Von Leakass continues to have the runs. Turns out he had mild ringworm, and we're on day 4 of his medication (panacure and some probiotics). He is still his loving, screaming, sweetheart self though. Get your poop in order, Higgs! You're not getting out of the guest room until you do!

I went over to a friend's house that features 3 fully grown cats and was amazed at HOW BIG they were compared to our 4 month old kittens.

Dogen
May 5, 2002

Bury my body down by the highwayside, so that my old evil spirit can get a Greyhound bus and ride


Seems pretty common to me, if a box flap is available all our cats will chew it a bit, though the little one will really tear into it. No ill effects as far as I can tell.

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McKracken
Jun 17, 2005

hup ?


Serella posted:

Honestly, tell her the cat needs to be fixed or go, and that you'll get your landlord involved if nothing changes. She shouldn't own a cat and you shouldn't have to put up with this poo poo, so don't.

I will never understand why people who have no interest in taking care of pets decide to get pets.

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