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Haggins
Jul 1, 2004



Elite Taco posted:

I got some time to mess around with a 60D today and really like the way it feels.

One question I have, though: is it possible to configure the two wheels to do different things by default? Ex. Wheel near the shuttle changing shutter speed and wheel on the back changing aperture.

I didn't get a ton of time to mess with configuration stuff, but the two wheels had the same functions on the unit I got to play with.

Set it to manual.

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Elite Taco
Feb 3, 2010


I had it in manual mode. The D-pad thing would move a selection among different function options and then either wheel would adjust the given setting.

I'll go back and play with it some more.

DJCobol
May 16, 2003

CALL OF DUTY!


Elite Taco posted:

I had it in manual mode. The D-pad thing would move a selection among different function options and then either wheel would adjust the given setting.

I'll go back and play with it some more.

Interesting. In full manual mode on mine, the top wheel is for the shutter speed, and the back outer ring controls the aperture.

Elite Taco
Feb 3, 2010


DJCobol posted:

Interesting. In full manual mode on mine, the top wheel is for the shutter speed, and the back outer ring controls the aperture.

It's entirely possible I goofed it up somehow. I was only there for 10 minutes or so. I'll check it out again.

MrBlandAverage
Jul 2, 2003

GNNAAAARRRR

Elite Taco posted:

It's entirely possible I goofed it up somehow. I was only there for 10 minutes or so. I'll check it out again.
There's a custom function to switch the wheels in manual mode, at least on every Canon DSLR I've used.

edit: Huh. I can do this on my EOS 3, but can't find the option on the 10D or 5D2...

MrBlandAverage fucked around with this message at Apr 7, 2011 around 03:46

Aeka 2.0
Nov 16, 2000

Have you seen my apex seals? I seem to have lost them.



DJCobol posted:

Interesting. In full manual mode on mine, the top wheel is for the shutter speed, and the back outer ring controls the aperture.

This is the way my 60D is as well. I wish the layout was like my 5Dii. The d-pad and wheel is a wacky combo and I like the separate nub that the 5dii has.
Overall it is a solid camera, I don't like the plastic body, that is my only real gripe so far.

Does anyone know if the 60D sensor is the same as the 7D?

Yeehaw McKickass
Dec 15, 2004


Aeka 2.0 posted:

Does anyone know if the 60D sensor is the same as the 7D?

Yes it is.

Aeka 2.0
Nov 16, 2000

Have you seen my apex seals? I seem to have lost them.



sweet.


Well I just got my 85mm 1.8
First photos, nothing special, but drat is this thing sharp wide open.



Aeka 2.0 fucked around with this message at Apr 7, 2011 around 21:55

DJCobol
May 16, 2003

CALL OF DUTY!


Opinions on 24-70 f2.8L vs. 70-200 f4L IS.

Currently have 18-135 f3.5-5.6 kit lens and 50 1.8.

Most of my shooting will be car shows or other car-related functions and some outdoorsy landscape shots as well. I'm thinking that since I can usually get pretty close up to what I'm shooting at, the reach of the 200 is unnecessary right now. Will I be limiting myself too much though with only having the 24-70?

Wooten
Oct 4, 2004



DJCobol posted:

Opinions on 24-70 f2.8L vs. 70-200 f4L IS.

Currently have 18-135 f3.5-5.6 kit lens and 50 1.8.

Most of my shooting will be car shows or other car-related functions and some outdoorsy landscape shots as well. I'm thinking that since I can usually get pretty close up to what I'm shooting at, the reach of the 200 is unnecessary right now. Will I be limiting myself too much though with only having the 24-70?

I love the poo poo out of my 24-70, but unless you're shooting full frame, 24mm is not wide enough for car shows. Usually you have to get pretty close to the cars to avoid getting a lot of people in your shot, so you need a decently wide lens or you will be very frustrated. If you're shooting crop I would say the Tamron 17-50mm 2.8 would probably be a better choice.

MrBlandAverage
Jul 2, 2003

GNNAAAARRRR

DJCobol posted:

Opinions on 24-70 f2.8L vs. 70-200 f4L IS.

Currently have 18-135 f3.5-5.6 kit lens and 50 1.8.

Most of my shooting will be car shows or other car-related functions and some outdoorsy landscape shots as well. I'm thinking that since I can usually get pretty close up to what I'm shooting at, the reach of the 200 is unnecessary right now. Will I be limiting myself too much though with only having the 24-70?
24mm is not particularly wide on a crop-sensor camera. Make sure you're willing to live without the extreme wide end of your 18-135.

edit: I would also recommend the Tamron 17-50, unless you're planning to upgrade to a full-frame camera.

Whitezombi
Apr 26, 2006

With these Zombie Eyes he rendered her powerless - With this Zombie Grip he made her perform his every desire!

DJCobol posted:

Opinions on 24-70 f2.8L vs. 70-200 f4L IS.

Currently have 18-135 f3.5-5.6 kit lens and 50 1.8.

Most of my shooting will be car shows or other car-related functions and some outdoorsy landscape shots as well. I'm thinking that since I can usually get pretty close up to what I'm shooting at, the reach of the 200 is unnecessary right now. Will I be limiting myself too much though with only having the 24-70?

Your going to need something wide for car shows. I have the Tamron 17-50 (shot lots of car shows and landscapes with it) and just got the Canon 10-22. I really like the 70-200 - even used it to shoot landscape.

DJCobol
May 16, 2003

CALL OF DUTY!


Should have put it in the 1st post. Shooting with a 60D, no plans of upgrading to FF anytime soon.

So basically what you are all saying is just pay attention to the camera gear thread title and do that? Where's my easy button?

Anti_Social
Jan 1, 2007

My problem is you dancing all the time


If you like to shoot really wide, I have my Canon 10-22 I'm trying to get rid of.

Fake Edit: Have you heard about the Tamron 17-50?

Yeehaw McKickass
Dec 15, 2004


What advantage is there shooting in a monochrome picture style? Is it simply convenience?

Anti_Social
Jan 1, 2007

My problem is you dancing all the time


Yeehaw McKickass posted:

What advantage is there shooting in a monochrome picture style? Is it simply convenience?

When I do live shows with a bunch of colored lights, sometimes I'll switch it over to monocrome. If you shoot RAW, picture styles just affect the preview image in camera, and do nothing to the final shot. But if you're in a situation with a bunch of colored stage lights, you can flip it to B&W to make sure you can still see face detail pretty well through the color.

Haggins
Jul 1, 2004



Yeehaw McKickass posted:

What advantage is there shooting in a monochrome picture style? Is it simply convenience?

It's for people who don't know better, don't bother with it. Black and white conversion is an art in itself and not something you want to delegate to a 30cent chip in your camera. You can get good results by doing it yourself in Photoshop, Lightroom, Aperture and the like. However, the best tool for B&W conversions hands down is Nik's Silver Efx Pro 2. It's pretty simple to get started with but very powerful if you want it to be. I can't recommend it enough.

mr. mephistopheles
Dec 2, 2009



Haggins posted:

It's for people who don't know better, don't bother with it. Black and white conversion is an art in itself and not something you want to delegate to a 30cent chip in your camera. You can get good results by doing it yourself in Photoshop, Lightroom, Aperture and the like. However, the best tool for B&W conversions hands down is Nik's Silver Efx Pro 2. It's pretty simple to get started with but very powerful if you want it to be. I can't recommend it enough.

While I am sure there are people who shoot monochrome jpegs in camera to make "artsy" black and whites, I shoot in monochrome for the same reasons Anti_Social does, except I use it in pretty much every situation. It's much easier to see if you got the focus right or if the lighting is working in black and white, and if you're shooting RAW like everyone should, you'll still have color pictures to work with when you can see them on a full size monitor. Color is a lot more malleable than things like lighting and focus in processing.

ThisQuietReverie
Jul 22, 2004

I am not as I was.


And I prefer to shoot through a Heliopan #22 orange or #25 red when doing black & white.

Aeka 2.0
Nov 16, 2000

Have you seen my apex seals? I seem to have lost them.



It actually was quite a shock to me when I realized B&W didn't just mean to turn off the saturation, I'm glad I found the ways of proper tuning of a B&W image. You can really bring out the wide range of grays with Lightroom.


Ok I'm going to pimp out my 500D/T1i sale one last time here. Dropped the price down to $550 with grip.
http://forums.somethingawful.com/sh...hreadid=3401405

Fangs404
Dec 20, 2004

I time bomb.

If you guys are interested, I'm selling all my gear to fund a motorcycle purchase.

50D
100L
Sigma 10-20
50mm f/1.8
17-55mm IS
430EX II
Manfrotto tripod
Domke F-2 bag
wireless shutter remote

http://forums.somethingawful.com/sh...hreadid=3403258

Aeka 2.0
Nov 16, 2000

Have you seen my apex seals? I seem to have lost them.



Dang... just getting out all together?

Elite Taco
Feb 3, 2010


MrBlandAverage posted:

There's a custom function to switch the wheels in manual mode, at least on every Canon DSLR I've used.

edit: Huh. I can do this on my EOS 3, but can't find the option on the 10D or 5D2...

I figured it out. When the Q menu is up on the screen, both wheels have the same function. When the viewfinder is at your eye, the wheels have separate functions. w00t.

I think I'm gonna get a 60D soon!

Aeka 2.0
Nov 16, 2000

Have you seen my apex seals? I seem to have lost them.



I just noticed the 60D does 60fps@720. I think I'm gonna have to do some Twixtor slo-mo.

edit: holy poo poo, this thing allows you to exposure correct by 3 stops while in Av mode. My 5DII only allows 2 =/
Been a few low light situations where I wanted to underexpose the poo poo out of something to give it the correct look.

Aeka 2.0 fucked around with this message at Apr 8, 2011 around 19:23

keyframe
Sep 15, 2007

GINYU FORCE RULES


Fangs404 posted:

If you guys are interested, I'm selling all my gear to fund a motorcycle purchase.

50D
100L
Sigma 10-20
50mm f/1.8
17-55mm IS
430EX II
Manfrotto tripod
Domke F-2 bag
wireless shutter remote

http://forums.somethingawful.com/sh...hreadid=3403258

You are going to regret this when you bike up to some twisty mountain road and come up to some awesome vista and want to take a picture of it.

Fangs404
Dec 20, 2004

I time bomb.

keyframe posted:

You are going to regret this when you bike up to some twisty mountain road and come up to some awesome vista and want to take a picture of it.

I know. As a grad student, though, I have to pick and choose my expensive hobbies carefully. I haven't had time to photograph like I did when I started grad school. I have all this great gear that just sits packed away most of the time. I plan on getting back into photography once I graduate and have a job and some time on my hands, but for right now, the money is better spent on a bike I'll use a lot.

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

Tonight's starting lineup is
brought to you by Satan.


Maybe trade down to a T1i/T2i (or even a cheap XSi I guess) and keep the 50mm?

Just because they're on the lower end of the spectrum doesn't mean they take poo poo pictures, and it might give enough overhead that you can have your cake and eat it too.

Fangs404
Dec 20, 2004

I time bomb.

xzzy posted:

Maybe trade down to a T1i/T2i (or even a cheap XSi I guess) and keep the 50mm?

Just because they're on the lower end of the spectrum doesn't mean they take poo poo pictures, and it might give enough overhead that you can have your cake and eat it too.

The problem is that I also have to fund the gear that goes along with riding (helmet, pants, boots, jacket, gloves) which runs about another $1000 on top of the bike. Add the safety course and insurance, and that's the cost of most of my photography gear. If I sell all my gear, I can buy a bike and gear straight up without creating a massive credit card debt. I know for a fact I'll get into photography later, and what I might do in the interim is just get one of the nicer $400 P&S (maybe a 4/3 or micro 4/3).

Pompous Rhombus
Mar 11, 2007


Fangs404 posted:

The problem is that I also have to fund the gear that goes along with riding (helmet, pants, boots, jacket, gloves) which runs about another $1000 on top of the bike. Add the safety course and insurance, and that's the cost of most of my photography gear. If I sell all my gear, I can buy a bike and gear straight up without creating a massive credit card debt. I know for a fact I'll get into photography later, and what I might do in the interim is just get one of the nicer $400 P&S (maybe a 4/3 or micro 4/3).

If you don't shoot action, you'll be surprised how little you miss having an SLR when you get a mirrorless camera. I think you should be able to pick up a used E-P1 kit for under $400. I've got an NEX-3 and I love it to bits, only use my 5D at work and maybe 5% of the time outside of that for personal stuff.

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

Tonight's starting lineup is
brought to you by Satan.


Fangs404 posted:

The problem is that I also have to fund the gear that goes along with riding (helmet, pants, boots, jacket, gloves) which runs about another $1000 on top of the bike. Add the safety course and insurance, and that's the cost of most of my photography gear. If I sell all my gear, I can buy a bike and gear straight up without creating a massive credit card debt. I know for a fact I'll get into photography later, and what I might do in the interim is just get one of the nicer $400 P&S (maybe a 4/3 or micro 4/3).

Oh, you're talking motorbike? Well yeah, that's tougher.

I was thinking pedal power.

Fangs404
Dec 20, 2004

I time bomb.

Pompous Rhombus posted:

If you don't shoot action, you'll be surprised how little you miss having an SLR when you get a mirrorless camera. I think you should be able to pick up a used E-P1 kit for under $400. I've got an NEX-3 and I love it to bits, only use my 5D at work and maybe 5% of the time outside of that for personal stuff.

This is really good to hear. One of my friends just did something similar to me - he ditched his 5D2 and other gear for the money and wound up getting an Olympus E-PL2. I must admit I was really shocked at how SLR-like the pictures he captured were. Granted, most of the magic is in the guy behind the camera, but still.

xzzy posted:

Oh, you're talking motorbike? Well yeah, that's tougher.

I was thinking pedal power.

Yeah, motorcycle. My bad!

Stregone
Sep 1, 2006


I just got a canon 1dmk3, unfortunataly it didn't come with a viewfinder eye cup. Where can I get one?

HPL
Aug 28, 2002

Worst case scenario.

Stregone posted:

I just got a canon 1dmk3, unfortunataly it didn't come with a viewfinder eye cup. Where can I get one?
Either get a cheapie off of eBay or do what I do and run without one.

MrBlandAverage
Jul 2, 2003

GNNAAAARRRR

Stregone posted:

I just got a canon 1dmk3, unfortunataly it didn't come with a viewfinder eye cup. Where can I get one?

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produ...Eyecup_Eg_.html

BobTheCow
Dec 11, 2004

That's a thing?


HPL posted:

Either get a cheapie off of eBay or do what I do and run without one.

Yeah, I wouldn't bother replacing it unless you find it really bothers you. I've shot with a few 1D-series bodies without eye cups and I found I didn't even notice once I got down to it.

Stregone
Sep 1, 2006


Yeah now that you mention it I think I can see the viewfinder better without the eyecup. I wear glasses so the eyecup just keeps my eyeball that much farther from the viewfinder.

This is a totally bitchin' camera

On another note, I found it very interesting that the 'AC adapter' is actualy a DC adapter that you plug into an AC adapter powersupply. Can you plug the DC adapter (the part that goes into the battery compartment) into an external battery? I have a ton of 11.1v lipo packs for my rc cars.

Pompous Rhombus
Mar 11, 2007


Stregone posted:

Yeah now that you mention it I think I can see the viewfinder better without the eyecup. I wear glasses so the eyecup just keeps my eyeball that much farther from the viewfinder.

This is a totally bitchin' camera

If you can get contacts, try them (I tried them in high school and failed miserably, tried them again at 24 and boom, no problems). I lost my glasses like a year or two ago and never replaced them (vision's not that bad) and got contacts for when I'm shooting or driving at night. It's such a night-and-day convenience issue with camera viewfinders, don't think I'll ever go back to shooting with glasses.

NaDy
Jan 29, 2006



Question for UK goons really, how much £££s should a relatively new 450d with kit lens, 50mm f/1.8, polarizer, mini tripod, cleaning kit and lowepro altus 140 bag come to? Would you say £400 is a reasonable price for all that?

KennyG
Oct 22, 2002
Here to blow my own horn.

NaDy posted:

Question for UK goons really, how much £££s should a relatively new 450d with kit lens, 50mm f/1.8, polarizer, mini tripod, cleaning kit and lowepro altus 140 bag come to? Would you say £400 is a reasonable price for all that?

Buying or selling?

It sounds like you are buying some e-bay style kit. The 450D & the 50 1.8 are about the only two things in that list that are worth anything. That bag is about as craptacular as you can find, a mini-tripod is downright worthlesss for a SLR and my money is on that polarizer being some bargain basement crap. That said, if the deal is good on the rest, go for it.

I would say that off a quick e-bay search, £350 is about the limit for a reasonable 'deal' price. £400 ($650) is getting steep for a 2 year old entry camera with basic prime lens.

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ease
Jul 19, 2004

HUGE

I can't stand when people use a ton of extra garbage to inflate the price of their item. I see 600$ XT's on CL because it comes with a bunch of poo poo the seller spent 1200$ for at Best Buy in 2006.

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