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the phisH
Sep 1, 2006
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Random but I was pretty bummed when Dead to Fall broke up last year. Their last one, Are You Serious? started off with 4-5 really amazing songs even though the rest may not have been that good.

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the phisH
Sep 1, 2006
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well converge and botch are literally what metalcore should be, hardcore with metal influences.

the definition of metalcore being used in this thread are more for bands like as I lay dying and such, bands with catchyish gothenberg style riffs, heavy use of breakdowns, and clean-singing. Converge and Both really have none of these things.

the phisH
Sep 1, 2006
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new threat signal leaked.. although I'm pretty sure its just a rip of the album stream on their myspace. Its pretty great with less Linkin Park vocals and longass melody outro bullshit.

the phisH
Sep 1, 2006
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Yeah, this is pretty sick. I don't know if I like it more than No Heroes... but tracks like Wishing Well and Axe to Fall are so goddamn sick.

the phisH
Sep 1, 2006
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The new Red Chord leaked as well.

All I can say is Holy Jesus this thing is FAST.

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