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will_colorado
Jun 30, 2007

Cichlidae, may I present to you, this fucker:



Click for big

http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=39.705701,-104.994299&spn=0.005085,0.011362&t=k&z=17

Interstate 25 runs from the southeast to the northwest along the river. US 85 joins from the south onto I-25. Alameda is the East-West arterial. Kalamath Street and Santa Fe Drive are the two one-way streets that run north from the interchange. (lets also build a massive Home Depot right on the on-ramp :hurr:)

C-Dot is finally upgrading the drainage from Alameda north and the Alameda bridge. 25 is really substandard and dates from the 60's and earlier from here north to downtown. (the one lane ramp for US 85 to north I 25) It has been upgraded southeast of here (bless you T-Rex) but still backs up at this spot. How do you approach and what would you do for fixing something like this?

Thanks for all the info in this thread. This is an awesome thread.

will_colorado fucked around with this message at 01:47 on Nov 2, 2010

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will_colorado
Jun 30, 2007

ijustam posted:

Scramble lights :buddy:

Awesome for high-pedestrian traffic areas

Downtown Denver has these all over the place.

quote:

That pedestrian innovation was developed by Henry Barnes, Denver's traffic engineer from 1947 to 1953. It's so closely associated with him that, at least around here, it's known as the Barnes Dance.

Stopping traffic in all directions at certain downtown intersections certainly helps foot traffic in the central business district, because pedestrians can cross diagonally or directly. According to a story in the Rocky Mountain News archives, Barnes also is credited with inventing "walk" lights.

will_colorado
Jun 30, 2007

Cichlidae, this is probably going to wind up with a long answer. (at least it doesn't involve some insane, dry humping homo)

If the US would not have gone through with the Federal Highway Act in the 50's and kept and maintained it's passenger rail and inner city train/public transit. How different would our suburbs, highways, and cities look now?

will_colorado
Jun 30, 2007

Cichlidae posted:

That is a very good point. The typical precedent in the office is to slip a note into the project folder, but that's not particularly secure, and since our projects are more and more electronic these days, we sometimes don't even have folders.

Quiz!

What color are these two samples of sign sheeting?


(white balance should be perfect on this)

Neon green used in those school crossing signs and traffic cone orange?

will_colorado
Jun 30, 2007

Hey Cichlidae, I posted this: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3177805&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=69#post383974414 way back on page 69.

Look what's getting rebuilt right now :buddy:



http://www.coloradodot.info/library/studies/i-25-valley-highway-EIS/feis_ch7_phasedimplementation.pdf/view

Flyover ramp, partial SPUI, and the Home Depot entrance isn't on the loving off ramp.

E: If you go to that Google Maps spot and zoom in enough to view the 45 degree view you can see it in process.

will_colorado fucked around with this message at 01:05 on May 31, 2012

will_colorado
Jun 30, 2007

hailthefish posted:

The formerly bankrupt New Sanctum - Middleport Bypass Turnpike Authority has been reconstituted as the Fukov East Coast Railroad, funding a line (possibly by scamming the townsfolk with a catchy jingle) from New Sanctum to Fairport along the coast roads.

Something like this:



If the rail concerns operating in New Sanctum and Fairport wanted to make connections it would likely be lucrative. Maybe.



The New Cork Central Railway would be happy join with you and help fund the construction of a central terminal for the citizens of Fairport, and to connect our railway line from New Cork to the city of Fairport.

thus allowing us railway barons to make money

will_colorado
Jun 30, 2007

FISHMANPET posted:

The first Union Station wasn't built until 1850 in the US

It's 1850 now, and we will by god build one then.

will_colorado
Jun 30, 2007

heythisguyhere posted:

Can we improve the indian road going through the city, as well? I have this terrible fear of letting the docks stagnate/fester while the city grows towards this new road.

edit: Looks like there are still indian roads going through a bunch of city centers. The newly-formed advocacy group Citizens for Urban Management think this is an important issue, and would like to see it addressed.

We could use the stone from those new basalt quarries and pave those rutted roads.

E: Or hire a sculptor to build a giant Fukov statue in front of the state house in Hartshire

will_colorado fucked around with this message at 00:51 on Oct 3, 2012

will_colorado
Jun 30, 2007



a big fukov railyard on the north side of the city.

A station for the west bank of the river. New parks and tram lines.

Turn the old central station into a new through station. Add a rail bypass route.

Reserve a suitable crossing for a bridge.

Added potential development.

E: added new roads and a bridge/tram to that area in the southeast.

We have metal, and steam power. When can we build a steam powered lift bridge?

will_colorado fucked around with this message at 03:45 on Oct 6, 2012

will_colorado
Jun 30, 2007

Cichlidae posted:

Welcome to 1870!

Farmingham - Farmingham is still closely tied to the arms trade. A large explosion in a powdermill in 1864 knocked out perhaps a quarter of the city, but it quickly grew back.


Which one of you dumb-dumbs blew up both yourselves and 1/4 of the city?

will_colorado
Jun 30, 2007

Why does that have so much space in the median?

will_colorado
Jun 30, 2007

Cichlidae, what is your opinion on a project like this?

http://www.bizjournals.com/denver/news/2013/04/10/cdot-proposes-lowering-two-miles-of.html?page=all

The I-70 viaduct there is an eyesore and needs to be replaced with it being ~60 years old.

Here is the area now:

https://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&so...04&z=15&iwloc=A

One of the original plans was to tear it all down and reroute the I-70 traffic along I-76 and I-270 through that part of Denver.

will_colorado
Jun 30, 2007

Here's something hideous to envision. A massive ugly looking highway that cuts right through the middle of downtown Denver. How did urban planners and engineers from the mid 20th century create such hosed up ideas like this? :eng99:

E: Here's the link for the I-70 project through east Denver I asked about earlier in the thread: http://www.i-70east.com/ The buried highway makes the neighborhood look so much better than having that ugly elevated structure.









will_colorado fucked around with this message at 03:32 on Apr 18, 2013

will_colorado
Jun 30, 2007

C-Dot is finally doing some construction for widening the tunnels near Idaho Springs, TO JUST ADD ONE LANE GOING EASTBOUND:

http://www.coloradodot.info/projects/i70twintunnels

It's a loving mess driving back from the mountains until it gets completed

This will likely wind up as a smaller version of what to do at the Eisenhower Tunnel, minus the "temporarily build around the mountain" part.

A rail line through clear creek canyon across/through the divide to Silverthorne and Vail is clearly a better option. They're just spending $$$ adding a single lane in one direction instead of getting a solution to the problem. :sigh:

will_colorado fucked around with this message at 00:41 on May 12, 2013

will_colorado
Jun 30, 2007

Cichlidae posted:

Colorado's growth rate exceeds that of most third world countries. You guys need to get your birth control in order, or you're going to have more problems than just congestion in the decades to come.

I definitely agree, all the same. Why the heck would they go through all that effort for a single lane in a single direction?

Placating stupid people who believe suburbia should extend 40 miles west and up to an elevation of 9,000+ feet?

I thought you were exaggerating that growth number, but holy poo poo: http://www.indexmundi.com/facts/united-states/quick-facts/colorado/population-growth#map

Population % increase from 2000 to 2010



Douglas, Weld, Adams, Larimer, and Denver counties are all part of metro Denver. El Paso and Elbert counties are Colorado Springs. Garfield, Mesa, and Montrose are all around Grand Junction in the western part of the state.

Check out the time lapse growth: http://world.time.com/timelapse/ All of south metro Denver and north metro CO Springs is going to be just massive suburb.

I hope that idea is just part of the overall expansion of the highway and transit through there, but I'm not sure. If you want to build stuff, come out here. I hope people get off their asses here and at least get some type of region rail transit from Cheyenne to Pueblo. New Mexico did it, and there are wayyy more people in our area than what their rail runner covers.

will_colorado fucked around with this message at 04:45 on May 12, 2013

will_colorado
Jun 30, 2007

I found a link for this:

http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2013/08/hyperreal-cartography-city-maps/

Holy crap that would make things look weird and different.

will_colorado
Jun 30, 2007

Cichlidae posted:

Jeez, that plan for Berlin... assuming the model on the right is to scale, the Volkshalle would be about twice as tall as the Eiffel Tower. That's hard to even imagine!

The Brandenburg Gate is UNDERNEATH THE GIANT ARCH STRUCTURE in the middle

will_colorado
Jun 30, 2007

WisconsinHighway.txt:

http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2013-09-16/milwaukee-will-fight-slippery-roads-with-cheese-brine

quote:

Milwaukee might not salt its icy roads this winter. Instead, the city plans to cover its potentially hazardous motorways with cheese brine, the salt-and-water solution used in the production of cheese. The brine, considered a wasteful byproduct, is apparently cheaper and much more abundant than rock salt.

will_colorado
Jun 30, 2007

Cichlidae, does that appear to be ghost ramps for a stack interchange here?

https://maps.google.com/?ll=39.834015,-104.747772&spn=0.009821,0.016394&t=h&z=16

will_colorado
Jun 30, 2007

Glad to see you are happy at your new job. That thing under Seattle is probably just some leftover glacial debris.

will_colorado
Jun 30, 2007

Opals25 posted:

Ok, so I just saw this for the first time, but wtf is going on here!

https://goo.gl/maps/iljqX

a stack interchange built before directional flyovers. There were several interchanges designed like that along 495 and 95 around DC. Plus there does not appear to be enough room either to upgrade to a big stack..

will_colorado fucked around with this message at 10:11 on Dec 31, 2013

will_colorado
Jun 30, 2007

Here's an idea from 1973 of Denver and Boulder's failed plan for automated "personal rapid transit" lines:





Capital cost: $1.059 Billion.....IN 1973 DOLLARS.

will_colorado
Jun 30, 2007

This happened on my way to work today, missed being caught in it by about 20 minutes :stare:

http://kdvr.com/2014/03/01/cdot-i-25-reopens-after-104-car-pileup/

quote:

DPD issued an update and said that a total of 104 vehicles were involved in multiple accidents on I-25.

I've seen people hitting regularly 80mph+ thru that section of highway. Too many idiots driving way to goddamn fast through a bit of freezing rain.

will_colorado fucked around with this message at 03:04 on Mar 2, 2014

will_colorado
Jun 30, 2007

The freeway and interchanges here have obsolete bridges that date back to the 50's:

https://maps.google.com/?ll=39.725524,-105.013633&spn=0.004662,0.008572&t=h&z=17

It's finally being upgraded into this:

http://www.coloradodot.info/projects/US6Bridges/Images/project-renderings/us-6-project-corridor-map.pdf/at_download/file (pdf)

Removing that rather nasty weaving section between Federal Blvd and Bryant Street

The park is getting rebuilt with a new turf field and pedestrian bridge.

Here is a pdf of some of the renderings:

http://www.coloradodot.info/projects/US6Bridges/Images/project-renderings/us-6-project-renderings.pdf/at_download/file

will_colorado fucked around with this message at 05:54 on Mar 10, 2014

will_colorado
Jun 30, 2007

Grundulum posted:

How much would it cost to build an elevated expressway directly above the current highway? (Lots, I'm sure, which is why nobody has mentioned it. I was curious about how much more.)

Why spend the money for another big overhead piece of concrete if you are rebuilding the entire stretch of highway? Would it be better to bury the highway through there instead?

will_colorado fucked around with this message at 05:58 on Mar 18, 2014

will_colorado
Jun 30, 2007

This probably belongs here:

http://www.theonion.com/articles/city-planner-gets-halfway-through-designing-city-b,35611/

quote:

City Planner Gets Halfway Through Designing City Before Realizing He’s Just Doing Philadelphia Again

will_colorado
Jun 30, 2007

thehustler posted:

Those diagrams are very interesting. Seems to show a definite north/south split, as if the older places were laid down by the European settlers and the others were made later. Then you have that one up near Rochester... maybe built later than anything else around it?

If you look at the oldest areas of many cities in the western US that are on a grid based layout, those streets are lined up slightly off due N/S/E/W, so that horses and carriage drivers would not have blinding sunrises and sunsets directly in their line of sight.

will_colorado fucked around with this message at 21:27 on Apr 1, 2014

will_colorado
Jun 30, 2007

Baronjutter posted:


Is there a special sort of sign that basically says "yo if you turn right there's going to be a train track right there so like be careful, maybe stop back here if there is otherwise you'll be caught in the intersection" ?

look at this guy thinking that drivers would actually pay attention to warning signs.

will_colorado
Jun 30, 2007

A few arterial streets in the Denver suburbs have this:



3 lanes with a single left turn lane each direction in the center. Although when a construction project has come up, most are being removed with medians and a left turn lane or lanes are installed at busier intersections.

this is a few blocks further south along the same street:

will_colorado
Jun 30, 2007

http://www.baltimoresun.com/business/bs-bz-amtrak-meeting-20141119-story.html#page=1

quote:

The two proposals, both of which would require extensive tunneling, were shortlisted recently as part of an engineering and environmental review aimed at replacing the nearly 150-year-old Baltimore & Potomac Tunnel, which twists under the city, slowing traffic along Amtrak's Northeast Corridor.

The existing 1.4-mile tunnel, built as a cut-and-cover project through West Baltimore in 1873, is one of the oldest structures on Amtrak's system and is "approaching the end of its useful service life," according to a draft report outlining alternatives. Its curving route slows Amtrak, MARC and freight traffic along the corridor and restricts the size and types of freight that can move through it.

a billion dollars to replace that?

will_colorado
Jun 30, 2007

lol

http://ktla.com/2014/11/24/exit-sign-on-710-freeway-misspells-olympic-boulevard-as-olimpic/

will_colorado
Jun 30, 2007

Has anyone else started seeing an increase in the flashing yellow arrow to yield in a protected left turn lane, instead of just the solid green signal? It seems like C-DOT is putting those up now whenever an older signal is getting replaced.

will_colorado fucked around with this message at 08:39 on Jan 19, 2015

will_colorado
Jun 30, 2007

RadioPassive posted:

What's the weird symbol between FOG and AHEAD on the bottom row?

distance

will_colorado
Jun 30, 2007

Kaal posted:

It seems to me that a speed limiter is a perfect solution to this problem. There's no reason that a mobility scooter needs to go faster than a normal walking pace, and there's many safety reasons for why they shouldn't.

someone's obviously never gotten a golf cart up on two wheels going around a corner at 30 mph.

will_colorado
Jun 30, 2007

Cichlidae posted:

Just to the west of it, say 500 feet or so.

And between the track and the road is some light industrial and low-cost commercial development. Along with a WHOLE lot of abandoned land.

Do you expect a large volume of traffic from the neighborhood street directly going to the highway?

will_colorado
Jun 30, 2007

Could you use something like this?

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=39.6...t=classic&dg=oo

the major road that goes over the rail line and the residential street has two small one way ramps that connect to the neighborhood street that passes underneath. A few blocks off to the west on the major road, would be a spot to make a legal u-turn, for the traffic needing to get from the neighborhood to the highway.

will_colorado
Jun 30, 2007

Cichlidae posted:

.
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.7616617,-72.7004048,17z <-- basically we're rebuilding this interchange, and the residential street is a realigned Capitol-Forest. Looks like it's only actually a couple hundred feet from the RR.


We'd have to take ROW to do that. Trying to avoid any ROW takes at all.

Capitol Ave is getting an interchange with 84? Are the flyovers from 84 that go to West Blvd being removed?

will_colorado
Jun 30, 2007

Minenfeld! posted:

Would you still want to live there if Robert Moses had gotten everything he wanted built? EXPRESSWAYS TEN STORIES IN THE AIR THROUGH BUILDINGS IN MIDTOWN WHEE!

I'd like to be living in the top or bottom right. Good connectivity without tearing the heart out of the city. Sort of like Danbury with 84 skirting it to the north.

Was Robert Moses the same guy that also thought THIS would have been a good idea?

will_colorado
Jun 30, 2007

Cichlidae, do you know what traffic/transit improvements are being built around the site of the new baseball stadium in downtown Hartford?

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will_colorado
Jun 30, 2007

Cichlidae posted:

Hahaha, I don't want to get in trouble, but the answer is pretty much "who the hell knows." The stadium got sprung on everyone at the same time, including CTtransit and our project, so there was no way to plan for it and now ground's already been broken. They did a rudimentary traffic study that basically said "no impact" and I imagine that CTtransit will relocate one of the Dash stops. There might be a special CTfastrak bus from New Britain, too, to bring Rock Cats fans to the games. The southern end of Windsor Street is being closed to cars, which is actually against our long-term plans for the city that call for improving network redundancy and reducing the impact of individual intersections on citywide traffic.

Their "no impact" thing is total BS, but the city's already taking it in both holes from the developers. I wish I could get some of that grade A land for $1/parcel...

haha. Just a few extra thousand people in that area, won't have any traffic impact at all. :downs:

And actually the team is going to be called the Hartford Yard Goats starting next year.

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