|
MassRayPer posted:However he's basically crippled so, it'd be an out of shape 49 year old against a crippled 48 year old. I thought we were done talking about TNA.
|
#
?
Apr 15, 2010 16:38
|
|
|
|
| # ? Apr 28, 2024 12:46 |
|
|
Anyone know why Kennedy being Vince's son was changed to Hornswaggle?
|
|
#
?
Apr 15, 2010 16:59
|
|
SAVE_US.CHR
|
ChampRamp posted:Anyone know why Kennedy being Vince's son was changed to Hornswaggle? Because Kennedy is a gently caress up.
|
|
#
?
Apr 15, 2010 17:00
|
|
|
ChampRamp posted:Anyone know why Kennedy being Vince's son was changed to Hornswaggle? Kennedy got suspended for either failing a drug test or being linked to the Signature Pharmacy scandal, I forget which happened at the time.
|
|
#
?
Apr 15, 2010 17:24
|
|
|
And it was right after he went on CNN or something, talking poo poo about anyone who does steroids, wasn't it?
|
|
#
?
Apr 15, 2010 17:35
|
|
|
Writer Cath posted:Tell me there will be lock boxes involved. Russo would put in about 10 gimmicks into the fight, cornette would win by killing him
|
|
#
?
Apr 15, 2010 17:39
|
|
|
Sionistic posted:Russo would put in about 10 gimmicks into the fight, cornette would win by killing him by throwing powder in his face, hitting him with a roll of quarters, then suffocating him with an ether-soaked rag.
|
|
#
?
Apr 15, 2010 18:56
|
|
|
CombineThresher posted:by throwing powder in his face, hitting him with a roll of quarters, then suffocating him with an ether-soaked rag. You forgot "bludgeoned by a tennis racket"
|
|
#
?
Apr 15, 2010 20:00
|
|
|
Somehow, some way, Kip James will be declared the winner.
|
|
#
?
Apr 15, 2010 20:03
|
|
|
projecthalaxy posted:Somehow, some way, Kip James will be declared the winner. Where did you get that awesome Wade Barrett avatar?
|
|
#
?
Apr 15, 2010 20:10
|
|
|
Karmine posted:Where did you get that awesome Wade Barrett avatar? hahahahahahahahahahaha Trad Games Discussion, actually. I'm not sure which is nerdier.
|
|
#
?
Apr 15, 2010 20:27
|
|
|
Was it ever confirmed outside of speculation that Kennedy was supposed to be Vince's son in that storyline?
|
|
#
?
Apr 15, 2010 23:34
|
|
|
Jerusalem posted:Was it ever confirmed outside of speculation that Kennedy was supposed to be Vince's son in that storyline? Pretty much. WWE was desperate to push him in any way, and every single time his chance came around, Kennedy hosed it up somehow.
|
|
#
?
Apr 15, 2010 23:36
|
|
|
Von Dozier posted:Pretty much. WWE was desperate to push him in any way, and every single time his chance came around, Kennedy hosed it up somehow. Not to be too argumentative here, but "pretty much" is not confirmation. I've certainly never seen it flat out said.
|
|
#
?
Apr 15, 2010 23:37
|
|
|
Jerusalem posted:Was it ever confirmed outside of speculation that Kennedy was supposed to be Vince's son in that storyline? If I remember correctly, they referenced it by having Kennedy come out and say he was Vince's son while the family scoffed at him for even trying to make the claim.
|
|
#
?
Apr 15, 2010 23:37
|
|
|
Lone Rogue posted:If I remember correctly, they referenced it by having Kennedy come out and say he was Vince's son while the family scoffed at him for even trying to make the claim. Yeah but that doesn't mean the plan WAS for him to be Vince's son, there were a lot of guys at the time who were playing up to the angle trying to get in on the McMahon billions (and others saying they would kill the gently caress out of him if he turned out to be their Dad).
|
|
#
?
Apr 15, 2010 23:39
|
|
|
Has ANYTHING like that ever been confirmed beyond Meltzer or Alvarez reporting it? I'm not aware of WWE telling the audience about aborted storylines.
|
|
#
?
Apr 15, 2010 23:42
|
|
|
OneThousandMonkeys posted:Not to be too argumentative here, but "pretty much" is not confirmation. I've certainly never seen it flat out said. I think a better question is do you think they really would of planned that to be a huge storyline that would of certainly made a main event career, for the outcome to be Hornswoggle? They were at the point where they couldn't just drop the storyline when Kennedy got sidelined (can't remember if it was another one of his major injuries or the drug test).
|
|
#
?
Apr 15, 2010 23:48
|
|
|
Von Dozier posted:I think a better question is do you think they really would of planned that to be a huge storyline that would of certainly made a main event career, for the outcome to be Hornswoggle? He failed a test, and Vince came out on Raw and said "Mr. Kennedy has been suspended for thirty days for... impersonating a McMahon."
|
|
#
?
Apr 15, 2010 23:54
|
|
|
Jerusalem posted:Was it ever confirmed outside of speculation that Kennedy was supposed to be Vince's son in that storyline? No but there were giant arrows pointing towards it. Kennedy pointed out that his last name was Vince's middle name, he was on the cusp of a huge push, and the big reveal was going to happen in Green Bay, his hometown.
|
|
#
?
Apr 15, 2010 23:58
|
|
|
So the answer is that it seems likely but nobody actually knows. I thought maybe one of the dirtsheets might have gotten the word from a source or that Kennedy himself might have mentioned it after being fired. It's not like WWE hasn't had a history of setting up expectations and then pulling the rug out from under fans' feet before.
|
|
#
?
Apr 16, 2010 00:02
|
|
|
Former creative team members have confirmed that was the plan for Kennedy during Figure 4 Daily interviews.
|
|
#
?
Apr 16, 2010 00:29
|
|
|
MassRayPer posted:Former creative team members have confirmed that was the plan for Kennedy during Figure 4 Daily interviews. Well in that case, there we go! Double dumb-rear end on you, Kennedy.
|
|
#
?
Apr 16, 2010 00:30
|
|
|
...Kennedy
|
|
#
?
Apr 16, 2010 02:19
|
|
|
Pneub posted:I really want to see Cornette and Russo get in a "shoot" fight with each other. And by "shoot" I mean an out of shape 50-year-old vs. an out of shape 60-year-old throwing kind-of punches at each other until, let's say, The Destroyer, seperates them like a couple of 10-year-olds fighting over a baseball card. Vince Russo would kick Jim Cornette's rear end. Vince Russo is a former World Heavyweight Champion!
|
|
#
?
Apr 16, 2010 02:51
|
|
|
TL posted:Vince Russo would kick Jim Cornette's rear end. Vince Russo is a former World Heavyweight Champion! Russo does actually have more experience in-ring than Cornette.
|
|
#
?
Apr 16, 2010 02:57
|
|
|
I'm fairly sure they had hinted at it on TV too
|
|
#
?
Apr 16, 2010 02:57
|
|
|
They did the whole Vince looking at Kennedy saying "that guy sure has a weird walk" and then proceeding to do the powerstrut, among other things.
|
|
#
?
Apr 16, 2010 03:25
|
|
|
Von Dozier posted:Russo does actually have more experience in-ring than Cornette. Are you sure? Cornette was getting bumped around by various babyfaces (and doing the occasional comedy six man with the Midnight Express) before Russo was even in the business.
|
|
#
?
Apr 16, 2010 04:40
|
|
|
Von Dozier posted:Russo does actually have more experience in-ring than Cornette. How often did Russo wrestle in late WCW and early TNA? Cornette was in the ring fairly often with the Midnight Express, if I remember correctly.
|
|
#
?
Apr 16, 2010 04:42
|
|
|
Russo has wrestled like 10 matches and I think Cornette has wrestled in around 50.
|
|
#
?
Apr 16, 2010 04:47
|
|
|
The whole Kennedy as Vince's son angle was cursed. The rough outline was supposed to see Vince die in the limo explosion followed by Steph & Shane fighting over who would be in charge of the WWE. Triple H would be revealed to be Steph's husband at some point. Eventually, it would be revealed that Vince had a 3rd child, and he happened to be on the WWE Roster. Kennedy would be that child and was supposed to take on Triple H for control of the WWE at WrestleMania. Vince would come back at some point and say that he wasn't really dead. What really happened? Benoit killed Nancy & Daniel and the limo explosion angle was immediately dropped. Then Kennedy failed a drug test so they went with Hornswoggle. They did nothing with it, really, except for having Vince try to kill Hornswoggle every week. Eventually, Finlay revealed that he was Hornswoggle's son the entire time and at WrestleMania, Finlay & Hornswoggle got killed by JBL in the opening match.
|
|
#
?
Apr 16, 2010 04:59
|
|
|
Rusty Shackelford posted:The whole Kennedy as Vince's son angle was cursed. To be fair, this whole mess gave us JBL throwing a trash can at Hornswoggle, so its not a total loss
|
|
#
?
Apr 16, 2010 05:01
|
|
|
Rusty Shackelford posted:Eventually, Finlay revealed that he was Hornswoggle's son the entire time This would have made for a more interesting (albeit more stupid) angle.
|
|
#
?
Apr 16, 2010 05:03
|
|
|
Nibble posted:This would have made for a more interesting (albeit more stupid) angle. Turns out Hornswaggle really is a magical, therefore 100 years older than he looks, leprechaun, who screwed some drunk chick 50 years ago.
|
|
#
?
Apr 16, 2010 05:46
|
|
|
And that chick was Mae Young
|
|
#
?
Apr 16, 2010 05:48
|
|
|
Matlock posted:And that chick was Mae Young It's a shame Finlay's half-brother never made any appearances after his debut.
|
|
#
?
Apr 16, 2010 06:17
|
|
|
He had a real future as a ref
|
|
#
?
Apr 16, 2010 06:29
|
|
|
I saw the term "throwaway push" in the TNA thread - what does that mean? Let a guy win a match and then bury him?
|
|
#
?
Apr 16, 2010 07:40
|
|
|
|
| # ? Apr 28, 2024 12:46 |
|
|
Rusty Shackelford posted:The rough outline was supposed to see Vince die in the limo explosion followed by Steph & Shane fighting over who would be in charge of the WWE. Triple H would be revealed to be Steph's husband at some point. Eventually, it would be revealed that Vince had a 3rd child, and he happened to be on the WWE Roster. Kennedy would be that child and was supposed to take on Triple H for control of the WWE at WrestleMania. Vince would come back at some point and say that he wasn't really dead. Honestly, at the speed Kennedy was going at the time, I would've been totally fine with that if it had gone through as planned. Then again, it was pretty much the Benoit incident that got me to watch wrestling again in the first place, so it's a Catch-22 for me.
|
|
#
?
Apr 16, 2010 07:47
|
|