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Pingiivi
Mar 26, 2010

Straight into the iris!

CoolCat posted:

That Snow White shirt is disturbing...

Somethingsomething art something.

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Vince MechMahon
Jan 1, 2008



Snow White as drawn in the Disney film, as portrayed on that shirt, is definitely not portrayed as being a teenager, and you have to have a pretty liberal definition of "holding her arms back" for that to be what that looks like. That shirt is not even close to being the first time the idea that Snow White was banging those dwarves has been posited, and everyone involved seems to be happy, so stop orgy shaming.

Bina
Dec 28, 2011

Love Deluxe

TheJoker138 posted:

Snow White as drawn in the Disney film, as portrayed on that shirt, is definitely not portrayed as being a teenager, and you have to have a pretty liberal definition of "holding her arms back" for that to be what that looks like. That shirt is not even close to being the first time the idea that Snow White was banging those dwarves has been posited, and everyone involved seems to be happy, so stop orgy shaming.

Tell me about how you know she's being portrayed as an adult. Is it because it's sexual, or because her breasts are drawn larger? (Some teenagers develop differently) How do you know it's not an image of pedophilia? Some people believe that their images of Pony Porn are okay, because their souls are much older than their bodies, so it's okay to depict them in grossly sexualixed imagery.

Bina fucked around with this message at 21:06 on Jun 29, 2015

somnambulist
Mar 27, 2006

quack quack



Bina posted:

Tell me about how you know she's being portrayed as an adult. Is it because it's sexual, or because her breasts are drawn larger? (Some teenagers develop differently) How do you know it's not an image of pedophilia? Some people believe that their images of Pony Porn are okay, because their souls are much older than their bodies, so it's okay to depict them in grossly sexualixed imagery.

I did some research, and the T shirt design is from a sex shop in London (from the 70's) that is credited as starting the punk movement with the sex pistols.

http://selvedgeyard.com/2010/10/07/the-filth-the-fashion-vivienne-westwoods-70s-sex-rag-revolution/

You can view more of the collection (available to purchase) here http://www.punkflyer.com/seditionariesclothing.html

Vince MechMahon
Jan 1, 2008



Bina posted:

Tell me about how you know she's being portrayed as an adult. Is it because it's sexual, or because her breasts are drawn larger? (Some teenagers develop differently) How do you know it's not an image of pedophilia? Some people believe that their images of Pony Porn are okay, because their souls are much older than their bodies, so it's okay to depict them in grossly sexualixed imagery.

Because I'm not insane and jump directly to "this endorses pedophilia" when I see a shirt of a cartoon character getting banged. It's a funny shirt. Lighten up.

Or assume Gaga is the new Gary Glitter because she wore an off color t-shirt, I guess. Do you think Axle Rose thinks Charles Manson is really God and is looking forward to the coming race war because he used to wear a Charlie Don't Surf shirt with Manson on it, too?

E: Also tell me how you know she's being portrayed as a teen. Her age is never said in the Disney movie, she's drawn as an adult both there and on the shirt, and at the end of the film she gets married to an obviously full grown man. I don't think Disney is advocating for child brides, so I'm gonna guess no, she isn't 14 even if that's one age she has been said to be in a fictional fairy tale that has changed countless times since it was first told.

Vince MechMahon fucked around with this message at 04:30 on Jun 30, 2015

sethsez
Jul 14, 2006

He's soooo dreamy...

TheJoker138 posted:

Because I'm not insane and jump directly to "this endorses pedophilia" when I see a shirt of a cartoon character getting banged. It's a funny shirt. Lighten up.

Or assume Gaga is the new Gary Glitter because she wore an off color t-shirt, I guess. Do you think Axle Rose thinks Charles Manson is really God and is looking forward to the coming race war because he used to wear a Charlie Don't Surf shirt with Manson on it, too?

E: Also tell me how you know she's being portrayed as a teen. Her age is never said in the Disney movie, she's drawn as an adult both there and on the shirt, and at the end of the film she gets married to an obviously full grown man. I don't think Disney is advocating for child brides, so I'm gonna guess no, she isn't 14 even if that's one age she has been said to be in a fictional fairy tale that has changed countless times since it was first told.

What's the most offensive possible option here? I'm gonna go with that one and react accordingly.

Vince MechMahon
Jan 1, 2008



sethsez posted:

What's the most offensive possible option here? I'm gonna go with that one and react accordingly.

Lady Gaga hired Terry Richardson to photograph the rape and murder of a 14 year old prostitute by 7 dwarves.

somnambulist
Mar 27, 2006

quack quack



I really like this acoustic version of Gypsy.

https://soundcloud.com/edar98/lady-gaga-gypsy-acoustic-live

somnambulist
Mar 27, 2006

quack quack



She performed Ordinary Love with U2 tonight

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZfXckUCTWY

Decent quality video. Really cool she keeps performing with her idols. Brian May, Rolling Stones, U2, Tony Bennett, Sting, 4 Non Blondes, Stevie Wonder, Elton John, Carol King and of course the Oscars. And she's not even 30 yet, good god. ._.

Stalins Moustache
Dec 31, 2012

~~**I'm Italian!**~~

Pretty much ALL of her Howard Stern radio perfomances has been incredible. A personal favorite of mine was when she played Hair https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgXDyOBJuss.

Necrothatcher
Mar 26, 2005




somnambulist posted:

I did some research, and the T shirt design is from a sex shop in London (from the 70's) that is credited as starting the punk movement with the sex pistols.

http://selvedgeyard.com/2010/10/07/the-filth-the-fashion-vivienne-westwoods-70s-sex-rag-revolution/

You can view more of the collection (available to purchase) here http://www.punkflyer.com/seditionariesclothing.html

It's not a sex shop. It's a shop called SEX.

Vince MechMahon
Jan 1, 2008



Mr. Flunchy posted:

It's not a sex shop. It's a shop called SEX.

It's both, actually. They've always sold bondage and S&M gear and the like.

Also I love Gaga, but not even she can get me to listen to fuckin' U2.

QuickbreathFinisher
Sep 28, 2008

by reading this post you have agreed to form a gay socialist micronation.
`

TheJoker138 posted:

Also I love Gaga, but not even she can get me to listen to fuckin' U2.

Seconding this. But thank you for making me aware of her Carole King cover that I somehow missed!!

somnambulist
Mar 27, 2006

quack quack



I don't like U2 either but you can't deny how huge they are, and it's a GREAT honor to be a part of that. Plus the performance was actually pretty nice, Ordinary Love is a good song at least. *shrug*

They still hold the record for the top grossing tour of all time. Only 110 shows and they grossed $772,044,344 dollars. Utterly Insane.

But yeah, U2 is pretty meh IMO. They have a few songs I like but I never understood the appeal.

Vince MechMahon
Jan 1, 2008



Remember when U2 tried to give away an album to everyone who had iTunes and everyone went "ew god no get it away?" That was pretty great.

somnambulist
Mar 27, 2006

quack quack



The Shiseido commercial is really cute

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCSdc4hw5jM

Her dog Asia :allears:

Bina
Dec 28, 2011

Love Deluxe

somnambulist posted:

The Shiseido commercial is really cute

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCSdc4hw5jM

Her dog Asia :allears:

Asia is da bes.

bad day
Mar 26, 2012

by VideoGames

Bina posted:

Looks like Gaga is doing some work with the Dirty Pearls. Photography courtesy of Terry Richardson. :smith:

Sad day.

In recent news:

:nws:http://imgur.com/a/w3jEH:nws: Thoughts?

Snow White is 14. The image shows them holding her arms back.

That's a really famous image from the 1960's, IIRC.

You all are morally hand-wringing about something that's at least 50 years old. Millennials. :smith:

bad day fucked around with this message at 09:29 on Jul 31, 2015

Vince MechMahon
Jan 1, 2008



bad day posted:

That's a really famous image from the 1960's, IIRC.

You all are morally hand-wringing about something that's at least 50 years old. Millennials. :smith:

To be fair it was only one person hand-wringing about it, and they seem to have left, with no real defense, basically as soon as they were called on doing so.

Bina
Dec 28, 2011

Love Deluxe

TheJoker138 posted:

To be fair it was only one person hand-wringing about it, and they seem to have left, with no real defense, basically as soon as they were called on doing so.

:munch:

Vince MechMahon
Jan 1, 2008




Please tell us more about how her wearing this shirt means she supports child rape :allears:

bad day
Mar 26, 2012

by VideoGames
I can't find an internet source - this is something I remember from a magazine I read 20 years ago so maybe it's only 70% accurate - this particular drawing was one of the first, most popular blacklight posters to ever exist. I can't confirm this because searching terms like "famous snow white orgy drawings" bring up horrible, terrible things. I remember I first saw it in .gif format back in the proto-internet days of the early 90's, downloaded from my local free "adult" bbs.

Bina
Dec 28, 2011

Love Deluxe

TheJoker138 posted:

Please tell us more about how her wearing this shirt means she supports child rape :allears:

Well, she still supports Terry Richardson. I mean, if you're that apathetic toward your audience, then sure, wear a sexually explicit shirt round in public for attention. Cause in Gaga's eyes, rape and giving excuses (he's a great guy!) for Terry is all about tolerance. <-- This coming from someone who once got an avatar based on her opinion of Terry in the past.

Maybe I am reading too far into it, however, the shirt is still in bad taste. I fortunately belong with others of the opinion that a Disney princess shouldn't be depicted in a sexually explicit manner. I'd rather see Gaga walk around in public bare chested, with glitter all over her breasts than see an image of Snow White getting gang banged. Yes, let's all laugh, and giggle at that.

bad day posted:

I can't find an internet source - this is something I remember from a magazine I read 20 years ago so maybe it's only 70% accurate - this particular drawing was one of the first, most popular blacklight posters to ever exist. I can't confirm this because searching terms like "famous snow white orgy drawings" bring up horrible, terrible things. I remember I first saw it in .gif format back in the proto-internet days of the early 90's, downloaded from my local free "adult" bbs.

Snow White and the Sir Punks

Bina fucked around with this message at 20:48 on Aug 1, 2015

Vince MechMahon
Jan 1, 2008



Her supporting Terry Richardson is super lovely. This isn't about this, this is about a shirt. I'm sorry you are so offended by a loving shirt with a drawing on it. Why shouldn't Disney princesses be depicted like that? Are they such sacred cows? They're all obviously above 18 in the films, as they are at marrying age. And the shirt isn't being sold to children, it became famous in a punk rock/bondage shop literally named SEX. But then again it being shocking and offensive and in bad taste is exactly the point, I guess, seeing as that's what punk is all about. I guess I'm just amazed that in this day there are people still actually effected by that because it's not 1970 anymore.

Boob Dylan
Jan 3, 2013
I can't believe you're still squabbling over the drat shirt. I guarantee no one cares but the two of you.

She's finished the jazz tour and appears to be working on the next album, whatever that may mean. I'm hoping she dials back the theatrics and ego but otherwise I'm cautiously excited.

Vince MechMahon
Jan 1, 2008



Boob Dylan posted:

I can't believe you're still squabbling over the drat shirt. I guarantee no one cares but the two of you.

She's finished the jazz tour and appears to be working on the next album, whatever that may mean. I'm hoping she dials back the theatrics and ego but otherwise I'm cautiously excited.

After a year of her doing small scale (relatively) jazz poo poo and verbally jerking off Tony Bennett I could honestly stand to see the theatrics and ego make a come back. Everything she's done since Art Pop has just been super boring to me. I still probably would have liked the album more if not for Bennett and his terrible old man voice, though.

Stalins Moustache
Dec 31, 2012

~~**I'm Italian!**~~

TheJoker138 posted:

After a year of her doing small scale (relatively) jazz poo poo and verbally jerking off Tony Bennett I could honestly stand to see the theatrics and ego make a come back. Everything she's done since Art Pop has just been super boring to me. I still probably would have liked the album more if not for Bennett and his terrible old man voice, though.

I just really hope they do something with this instrumental of Ratchet that was played at the ARTRAVE but never was officially released.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rM6TK5MbOGE

somnambulist
Mar 27, 2006

quack quack



Good god she looks amazing right now.

Stalins Moustache
Dec 31, 2012

~~**I'm Italian!**~~
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yIXCSNPmUg

Holy poo poo that trailer :fap:

Vince MechMahon
Jan 1, 2008



I hope it's not boring and stupid like the last two seasons. Especially the last one where the show runner seemed to forget he was making American Horror Story and not Glee and threw in a bunch of lovely anachronistic cover songs for no real reason.

the truth
Dec 16, 2007

The Pinhead episode and the ending were pretty good, though.

somnambulist
Mar 27, 2006

quack quack



That song with Diane Warren finally got released "Til it happens to you"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaMVGimF5Ow

itunes link:

https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/til-it-happens-to-you/id1041049716?i=1041049718

Thank god they fixed the mastering issues the leaks had. Drove me nuts.

edit:

Apparently it got a video too-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmWBrN7QV6Y

Vince MechMahon
Jan 1, 2008



the truth posted:

The Pinhead episode and the ending were pretty good, though.

I'm gonna be honest: I got about 4 episodes into Freak Show and stopped watching. I was really excited for it, too, as I like the setting a lot going in, but the way it handled stuff was just boring in a way even season 3 wasn't. And season 3 was also bad. I'm sure I'll finish it up someday, but man, what I did see left a real bad taste in my mouth. I really hope the cast shake up is what it needs to make Hotel better, but I'm still kind of pessimistic about it all right now.

somnambulist
Mar 27, 2006

quack quack



I liked the beginning for freak show (the main credits were so cool to me and twisty was compelling) but it got super boring. They didn't really know where to take it. I liked the other 3 seasons though, especially asylum and murder house (coven was so so).

I'm excited for this season for the visuals alone but I'm hoping the story is decent (I'm glad there won't be musical numbers and they're going more towards horror supposedly)

the truth
Dec 16, 2007

The pinhead episode of Freak Show was worth watching if you're a fan of the show. It's called "Orphans."

somnambulist
Mar 27, 2006

quack quack



Gaga is back in a new video by nick knight for tom ford. Here is a preview. I wonder what the song is, apparently Nile Rodgers has a hand in it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zIw3MQ4t7k&sns=em

HYPE. HYPE. HYPE.

Pomp
Apr 3, 2012

by Fluffdaddy
that feel when ss16

somnambulist
Mar 27, 2006

quack quack



Kinda bummed it's just a cover but she sounds incredible doing disco.

It's Chic's "I want your love"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNUhwgpnAZc&sns=em

Hard to believe she's singing, she's a damned chameleon.

somnambulist
Mar 27, 2006

quack quack



She is Billboards Woman of the Year

Read about why and a pretty cool interview.

http://www.billboard.com/articles/events/women-in-music/6784920/lady-gaga-billboard-woman-of-the-year-2015-cover-story?utm_source=twitter

Some images from the shoot













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ZakAce
May 15, 2007

GF
I am so happy that Gaga took this year off (essentially) to recuperate and build up her goodwill again. I bet her next album's going to be great, although ARTPOP had one of her best songs (Do What U Want) and wasn't that bad overall. Heck, even the less good songs had great moments (Aura's chorus, Donatella's pre-chorus). Fingers crossed.

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