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precision: May 7, 2006

7 pages and nobody has mentioned possibly the best quote of the movie?

"Back off man, I'm a scientist."

# ? Aug 14, 2009 17:25

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# ? May 24, 2013 06:30

Crackpipe: Jul 9, 2001

CaptAwesome posted:

It's not like the riff is unique to Lewis' song, anyway. M's "Pop Musik" opens with a lick that's just as similar, and that predates Lewis' by a good four years.

THANK YOU. No one ever mentions the "Pop Muzik" similarity.

# ? Aug 14, 2009 18:15

Friendly Geek: Aug 11, 2005; Your friendly neighborhood geek. Friendly and/or geeky since 1982.

penismightier posted:

Ghostbusters - Full Movie love Crackle.

Thank you. I've been watching to watch this again since I started reading this thread, but hadn't gotten to my local Blockbuster yet. I remember loving both movies and the cartoon as a child, just like everyone else in this thread. This was a great blast from the past.

A couple things that no one mentioned...

Right at the end, before they cross streams, Winston breaks out a great line that I'm sure I never even caught as a kid.

"This job is definitely not worth eleven-five a year!"

One, I never would have gotten the joke, and two, holy cow is that a lovely pay per year. Granted, with inflation it translates to about 22-23K, but still. Not that great.

Also, I always thought that the Stay Puft Marshmallow man was cute. Even when he got angry, he still looked like a white and fluffy baby. When my cousins and I would play with his GB action figures, I always wanted to play with Mr. Stay Puft.

Thanks for all this nostalgia. I forgot how much I loved this movie.

vvv I stand corrected.

Friendly Geek fucked around with this message at Aug 14, 2009 around 18:50

# ? Aug 14, 2009 18:29

T-Bone: Sep 14, 2004; It always depends on the weather. When the weather is good, the team plays better.

I always thought the line was:

"This job is not worth another five a year."

As in this job is not worth an additional five thousand dollars a year.

edit: yeah just watched it again, that's definitely the line

T-Bone fucked around with this message at Aug 14, 2009 around 18:36

# ? Aug 14, 2009 18:31

echoplex: Mar 5, 2008; Stainless Style

T-Bone posted:

"This job is not worth another five a year."

Correct

# ? Aug 14, 2009 18:34

Crackpipe: Jul 9, 2001

The real unanswered question has yet to be brought up in this thread.

WHATEVER HAPPENED TO MICK SMILEY?

I don't care if you think the first part of the song sucks. Listen all the way through the 2:22 mark. And don't skip right there either.

# ? Aug 14, 2009 18:35

Rupert Buttermilk: Apr 15, 2007; RowboatMan: Freezing time is an old P.I. trick...

Icon-Cat posted:

Then "The Matrix" came out on DVD and became the benchmark at least as far as video and audio were concerned. Fiiiiiiine.

Ghostbusters and the Matrix were my first two DVD purchases. Bought them before I had the player. Also, GB is always the DVD I put in any system as a "test" run. I just got a 360, and wasn't sure if you could play DVD's without the totally-unnecessary remote add-on. Yay for MS not doing that anymore.

Timby posted:

Spade's

"Spate's"

cletus42o posted:

Well, that's what I heard!

Even though it's a different character, this post reminded me of when all hell breaks loose and the GB hall blows its lid. Peck, outside, stops the Ghostbusters and tells them that this blast is a direct result of their behaviour and equipment in the building. After he says all of that, Egon just breaks his cool and yells "YOUR MOTHER!!" and the awesome half-song by Mick Smiley starts up.

I as well was blown away when I finally listened to the entire soundtrack. Also, this film was the first film to teach me the difference between soundtrack and score. I always wanted the 80's funky bridge music on tape/cd/whatever. A long time ago, I had a link that had downloadable mp3's of every track from the score.

I've never noticed the "Oh poo poo, how much do we charge for this job.... thanks Egon!" part. I can't believe it. I thought I had mentally covered every single loving second of both of these films, and thanks to this thread, I've seen something new!

Few bits of trivia:

GB1: The Ray-Ghost-Orgasm scene was actually in the novelization. Ray and Winston were called to a job at a place called Fort Detmerring (I may be mistaken, but I don't think so). They were checking the whole place out, and couldn't find anything. Ray puts on an old coat, can't remember who he said he looked like, but it was some prince. Anyway, he falls asleep, and wakes up later to an eery feeling. He sees the ghost above him, and it disappears. Then the stuff that happens in the movie happens. It was weird reading about Ray having an orgasm, but whatever. He starts moaning, thinking "I don't think we're going to catch this one." Winston hears the moans, knocks on the door, and ray yells back "Later, maaaaan!!!", almost annoyed.

I believe they filmed some of this aside from what we saw. Why else is Ray wearing that fancy coat in the scene?

Another thing is in the deleted scenes, when Murray and Aykroyd are playing two bums. In the novelization (again, I realize it was written afterwards, but it's a really good read for any hardcore GB fan), there are two characters that are regular citizens, one guys last name is Coombs and the other is Bojay, I believe. Anyway, I think the two characters are inspired by the two bums that never made it into the final film.

In the book, those two characters would pretty much watch everything happen from the sidelines. It was neat to get an outsider's perspective on things, like Stay Puft, and the HQ explosion. A very odd addition to something that's not even really hinted at in the film.

The part of Louis Tully was originally given to John Candy, and he was going to some sort of nosy and brash German neighbour, but he "didn't understand the part", and turned it down. Moranis just took it in a totally different direction. Well, maybe not TOTALLY, but different enough.

Also, who else can spot Ron Jeremy in this film? He's off to the far left, right after Janine says "That's the sign alright. Going out of business."

GB2:

Deleted scenes exist for GB2, but they're pretty much used in the Montage scenes. One scene is Louis Tulley donning the GB suit and hunting slimer at the HQ. The part where the GB's rig up the complex trap at the jewellery story is there as well. Also, as we all know, Ray gets possessed by Vigo after looking at the painting for too long. He then goes on some sort of crazy rampage with the car, taking sharp turns. Another shot in the montage is of Peter in the car, looking at Ray, and then doing a double take. The scene with the jogger was a bit more in-depth as well.

Eugene Levy and Andrea Martin were originally asked to be in the first Ghostbusters movie, I believe, and that's why their names are on the marquee when that women's fur coat turns into more than just fur. Also, this movie is a good amalgamation of Second City and SNL, and Levy and Martin were in SC/SCTV.

Also, wasn't there something different about the ending shot, where we see the huge banner? Didn't the TV version have a different message on it?

I really really want to have commentary for the second movie, as well as those deleted scenes. I know they were cut for a reason, and I'm fine with them never going down as officially in the film. But, if you guys are anything like me, when you see brand new things coming out of a film you've grown up with, it kind of blows your mind. I know I was flipping the gently caress out when I checked out the deleted scenes from GB1 when I got the DVD. I assume others were as well.

EDIT: Also, for sound nuts, does anyone else notice that in some parts of this film, it seems as though the sound is doubled? By doubling, I specifically mean that you'll hear the sound once, and before it's finished, you hear it again. Almost like a really weird, tight echo. Happens a lot with the songs. Did the sound editor just not care, or do you think it was done for effect? It's not just my copy, since I've always noticed this.

EDIT the 2ND: Where the hell is the Air Supply song in the film? I've never been able to find it.

Rupert Buttermilk fucked around with this message at Aug 14, 2009 around 19:21

# ? Aug 14, 2009 19:06

Deadpool: Apr 28, 2002; Mercenary? I prefer "Well-Compensated Establishment Provocateur."

echoplex posted:

Correct

While it sounds like it could go either way, the subs on both DVDs have it as 11,500 a year. And the subs are flawless for the rest of the film so I'd be inclined to trust them.

# ? Aug 14, 2009 19:17

Timby: Dec 23, 2006; Your Mother!

Rupert Buttermilk posted:

EDIT the 2ND: Where the hell is the Air Supply song in the film? I've never been able to find it.

One of the guys moving the Ghostbusters' equipment off the university campus is listening to it. You can hear it through his headphones.

And I could swear it's "Spade's Catalog."

Edit: And it is "eleven-five a year."

# ? Aug 14, 2009 19:49

Rupert Buttermilk: Apr 15, 2007; RowboatMan: Freezing time is an old P.I. trick...

Timby posted:

One of the guys moving the Ghostbusters' equipment off the university campus is listening to it. You can hear it through his headphones.

And I could swear it's "Spade's Catalog."

Edit: And it is "eleven-five a year."

It actually sounded like "Space Catalog" when I was younger. And I've always wanted to read Tobin's Sprit guide. Is that in the game?

Actually, I think we're both technically wrong. It may actually be just Spates Catalog, no apostrophe.

EDIT: Google search, but it's something. I had originally put in the apostrophe, but then it suggested I take it out, and I got more results.

http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&s...catalog&spell=1

Rupert Buttermilk fucked around with this message at Aug 14, 2009 around 19:54

# ? Aug 14, 2009 19:52

haveblue: Aug 15, 2005

Rupert Buttermilk posted:

It actually sounded like "Space Catalog" when I was younger. And I've always wanted to read Tobin's Sprit guide. Is that in the game?

Yep. You can scan ghosts and use that to look up a bio/explanation for them.

# ? Aug 14, 2009 19:59

Timby: Dec 23, 2006; Your Mother!

Rupert Buttermilk posted:

It actually sounded like "Space Catalog" when I was younger. And I've always wanted to read Tobin's Sprit guide. Is that in the game?

One of the gameplay mechanics involves using the PKE Meter to scan ghosts, supernatural objects / substances, haunted artifacts, etc., not entirely unlike Metroid Prime. By scanning a ghost, you can also find out its weaknesses. The compendium of everything you've scanned so far in the game is Tobin's Spirit Guide.

# ? Aug 14, 2009 19:59

Deadpool: Apr 28, 2002; Mercenary? I prefer "Well-Compensated Establishment Provocateur."

Yeah, I did a google search for Tobin's Spirit Guide a while back and found a site that had scanned an old movie tie-in book or something like that in full. It was pretty neat to read. Lots of info including a foreward written by Ray Stantz.

EDIT: Here it is, first hit in the google search. http://www.ghostbustersinternational.com/tobins.htm

# ? Aug 14, 2009 20:04

cletus42o: Apr 11, 2003; Try to imagine all life as you know it stopping instantaneously and every molecule in your body exploding at the speed of light.

Romes128 posted:

I remember when I was a kid being scared for my dad when he told me he was going to the NY Public Library (I live in NYC).

Every chance I get, I try to walk by the front of the library. I work fairly close but generally only take that path when I'm going to the dentist.

When I catch sight of the lions, the music that plays in the movie plays right along in my head.

precision posted:

7 pages and nobody has mentioned possibly the best quote of the movie?

"Back off man, I'm a scientist."

There are way too many good quotes in this movie. Other than the ones I already mentioned, one of my favorites is right under my avatar.

TOTAL PROTONIC REVERSAL

cletus42o fucked around with this message at Aug 14, 2009 around 20:44

# ? Aug 14, 2009 20:41

Rupert Buttermilk: Apr 15, 2007; RowboatMan: Freezing time is an old P.I. trick...

cletus42o posted:

Every chance I get, I try to walk by the front of the library. I work fairly close but generally only take that path when I'm going to the dentist.

When I catch sight of the lions, the music that plays in the movie plays right along in my head.

Unfortunately, while they did in fact use the exterior for the film, the interior was, I believe, shot in LA.

EDIT: Holy poo poo, fixed, but not soon enough.

Rupert Buttermilk fucked around with this message at Aug 14, 2009 around 21:09

# ? Aug 14, 2009 20:46

LtKenFrankenstein: Jul 22, 2007; ella ella

Rupert Buttermilk posted:

Unfortunately, while they did in fact use the exterior for the film, the internet was, I believe, shot in LA.

This is hilarious.

# ? Aug 14, 2009 20:49

Rupert Buttermilk: Apr 15, 2007; RowboatMan: Freezing time is an old P.I. trick...

Christ. Made me chuckle. Can't believe I didn't even notice this.

# ? Aug 14, 2009 21:10

Payndz: Sep 22, 2006; I'm Peter Graves, and I was wondering if you could direct me to the natatorium. Thank you. I'm Peter Graves.

T-Bone posted:

I always thought the line was:

"This job is not worth another five a year."

As in this job is not worth an additional five thousand dollars a year.

I just checked the shooting script (in the Making Ghostbusters book) to see what it said, but it's not in there at all, so there's yet another improvisation to add to the list.

And while doing that, I found that the whole "cross the streams" solution to the Gozer problem wasn't in the script either - all Egon suggests is shooting the Terror Dogs, and somehow that destroys Gozer. So they were making up great chunks of the movie on the fly... and it all worked. The harmonic forces of the universe wanted this to be a great film.

# ? Aug 14, 2009 21:59

InVitro: Dec 23, 2008; I, Gary, the Scourge of Carpathia, the Sorrow of Moldavia, command you! Find me a child that I might live again!

Egon: Vigo the Carpathian. Born 1505, died 1610.
Venkman: 105 years old, he hung in there, didn't he?
Ray: He didn't die of old age, either. He was poisoned, stabbed, shot, hung, stretched, disembowled, drawn and quartered.
Venkman: Ouch.
Winston: Guess he wasn't too popular at the end, huh?
Egon: No, not exactly a man of the people. Also known as Vigo the Cruel, Vigo the Torturer, Vigo the Despised, and Vigo the Unholy.
Venkman: Wasn't he also Vigo the Butch?

...I love Ghostbusters...
...I love them sooo much...

# ? Aug 14, 2009 22:11

precision: May 7, 2006

This thread reminds me that, about 6 years ago when I had a few shows on a pirate radio station and soundboards weren't horribly over-used, I did a great on-the-fly "interview" with Bill Murray and I'm pretty sure 99% of the sound clips were from this film.

I think I could probably quote the movie start to finish if I tried really hard.

# ? Aug 14, 2009 22:21

Tender Bender: Sep 17, 2004; I swing both ways.

Rupert Buttermilk posted:

The part of Louis Tully was originally given to John Candy, and he was going to some sort of nosy and brash German neighbour, but he "didn't understand the part", and turned it down. Moranis just took it in a totally different direction. Well, maybe not TOTALLY, but different enough.

I believe Candy wanted the whole goofy german schtick (and he was supposed to have a little dog too or something) and he didn't get that it wouldn't fit in the movie.

# ? Aug 14, 2009 22:33

Rupert Buttermilk: Apr 15, 2007; RowboatMan: Freezing time is an old P.I. trick...

Tender Bender posted:

I believe Candy wanted the whole goofy german schtick (and he was supposed to have a little dog too or something) and he didn't get that it wouldn't fit in the movie.

Ah yes, you could be correct. That sounds familiar. Everybody needs to watch this film with director's commentary and production notes on. Though not at the same time, as it may be hard to take it all in.

# ? Aug 14, 2009 23:16

Detective No. 27: Jun 7, 2006; Pop Music, Girl Scouts, Aglets.

precision posted:

This thread reminds me that, about 6 years ago when I had a few shows on a pirate radio station and soundboards weren't horribly over-used, I did a great on-the-fly "interview" with Bill Murray and I'm pretty sure 99% of the sound clips were from this film.

I think I could probably quote the movie start to finish if I tried really hard.

Don't tell us without posting an mp3!

# ? Aug 14, 2009 23:52

Tommy Callahan: Sep 17, 2008; OH MY GOD! WE'RE BURNING ALIVE!

Extremely well written OP. This movie defined my childhood and I still watch it at least several times a year.

The second movie? Well...its kind of like that retarded cousin you see at family gatherings. Everyone is nice to it, but secretly you wish it wasn't around.

Here's hoping the third movie turns out as good as the first.

# ? Aug 15, 2009 01:02

Quote: Feb 2, 2005

Okay, so my fiance and I just watched this on YouTube, and I thought this was the best place to ask a question.

What the hell does Venkman give Egon after they've seen the library ghost and they're on the way to the university? It looks like a circus ticket or something. It happens at 13:19 in the YouTube version.

# ? Aug 15, 2009 01:40

zVxTeflon: Jul 18, 2004; "The apocalyptic scenario in Beverly Hills Chihuahua is what happens if AirBud goes too far"

Quote posted:

Okay, so my fiance and I just watched this on YouTube, and I thought this was the best place to ask a question.

What the hell does Venkman give Egon after they've seen the library ghost and they're on the way to the university? It looks like a circus ticket or something. It happens at 13:19 in the YouTube version.

A Crunch candy bar.

# ? Aug 15, 2009 01:45

Tewratomeh: Feb 17, 2007

zVxTeflon posted:

A Crunch candy bar.

I love the cutaway to Ray's face just lighting up when Egon earns that candy bar.

Gets me every time

# ? Aug 15, 2009 02:47

Rupert Buttermilk: Apr 15, 2007; RowboatMan: Freezing time is an old P.I. trick...

Aaaaand I've just found my tattered, beaten up copy of the Ghostbusters novel. Awesome! I'm going to give it another read. Has anyone else read this?

EDIT: Haha, just reading it now, when Winston is introduced to Ray, the first thing Ray says is "You're black!" and then explains how this is better for catching ghosts.

I'd actually be interested in transcribing a few chapters here, if anyone cares.

Rupert Buttermilk fucked around with this message at Aug 15, 2009 around 03:26

# ? Aug 15, 2009 03:03

seaborgium: Aug 1, 2002; "Nothing a shitload of bleach won't fix"

precision posted:

I think I could probably quote the movie start to finish if I tried really hard.

A buddy of mine used Ghostbusters to help him learn spanish. He knew the movie well enough to watch it on spanish HBO and use it as a tool while he was learning the language.

# ? Aug 15, 2009 03:30

Ema Nymton: Apr 26, 2008; GUIL-TY!

seaborgium posted:

A buddy of mine used Ghostbusters to help him learn spanish. He knew the movie well enough to watch it on spanish HBO and use it as a tool while he was learning the language.

�Los Cazafantasmas!

That reminds me: Years ago I downloaded a windows desktop theme called "Ghostbusters Deluxe" that included both English and Spanish sound clips, and sometimes I'd use the Spanish version. It is the best desktop theme I've ever used. But I don't use themes with sounds these days.

# ? Aug 15, 2009 03:56

Wank: Apr 26, 2008

precision posted:

I think I could probably quote the movie start to finish if I tried really hard.

In grade 6 when I was around 12 years old. A friend and I both learnt the entire movie off by heart. Any chance we had, such as a bus trip or a boring lunch break, we would recite it to each other alternating line by line. I don't think we ever made it to the end though.

We must have went through the beginning ESP test many times, and whoever got to say the "I'm right in the MIDDLE OF SOMETHING HERE RAY" line would always do the faux-slap to the head.

Later, I was in Germany and Ghostbusters was on.. I marvelled all the German speakers with my brilliant translating skills

I just realised, I can't believe the greatest scene in the movie has not been mentioned:

"Wow, its getting crowded in there and these readings point to something big on the horizon..."

# ? Aug 15, 2009 04:49

ToastyPotato: Jun 23, 2005; CONVICTED OF DISPLAYING HIS PEANUTS IN PUBLIC

Rupert Buttermilk posted:

Aaaaand I've just found my tattered, beaten up copy of the Ghostbusters novel. Awesome! I'm going to give it another read. Has anyone else read this?

EDIT: Haha, just reading it now, when Winston is introduced to Ray, the first thing Ray says is "You're black!" and then explains how this is better for catching ghosts.

I'd actually be interested in transcribing a few chapters here, if anyone cares.

Sounds interesting! Go for it. I just watched this film again thanks to this thread. I love this movie so damned much.

# ? Aug 15, 2009 05:37

boogs: Nov 1, 2007; I'd Hitler it.

Rupert Buttermilk posted:

Aaaaand I've just found my tattered, beaten up copy of the Ghostbusters novel. Awesome! I'm going to give it another read. Has anyone else read this?

EDIT: Haha, just reading it now, when Winston is introduced to Ray, the first thing Ray says is "You're black!" and then explains how this is better for catching ghosts.

I'd actually be interested in transcribing a few chapters here, if anyone cares.

Start with the 'You're black!' part. It sounds hilarious, and I'd love to hear Ray's explanation of why it's an advantage for catching ghosts.

# ? Aug 15, 2009 06:08

Nuke Goes KABOOM: Mar 24, 2007; by Fistgrrl

Can't see you coming in the dark.

# ? Aug 15, 2009 06:08

LividLiquid: Apr 13, 2002; No longer livid.

echoplex posted:

Correct

Incorrect. Not in the script this way and makes no since given his "If there's a steady paycheck in it, I'll believe anything you say."

Winston was unemployed. It was a they-pay-him-poo poo joke.

# ? Aug 15, 2009 09:06

Rupert Buttermilk: Apr 15, 2007; RowboatMan: Freezing time is an old P.I. trick...

Ok, here goes...

The Novel posted:

"Rats, Peter. We've got two more free-roaming repeaters here."
"And this is Winston Zeddemore. He came about the job."
"You're black!" Stantz said delightedly.
"Yes, I know."
"No, you see, that certain forms of vapors, particularly the later types of cyclical roamers, respond better to black people." He stuck out his hand. "Ray Stantz, and this is Peter Venkman."
"Hi."
"Come on back into the equipment area, Winston, and I'll show you just what it is we do here."

Ah, Zeddemore thought. At last I'm going to find out the real skinny. Stantz was leafing through his r�sum�.

"Very impressive. Strategic Air Command. ECM school... black belt in karate... small-arms expert... as far as I'm concerned, Mr. Zeddemore, you're hired. Now, as you may have heard, we locate ghosts and spirits, trap them with streams of concentrated quantum energy, and remove them from people's homes, offices, and places of worship."
"Yeah, I heard that," Zeddemore replied, following Stantz down into the Basement. "Now tell me what you really do."

There's even a part of a chapter devoted to Winston still living at his mom's place, looking for a job.

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# ? Aug 15, 2009 15:30

Deadpool: Apr 28, 2002; Mercenary? I prefer "Well-Compensated Establishment Provocateur."

Which copy of the novel is it? I've always wanted the Richard Mueller (who also did some writing on The Real Ghostbusters cartoon) version but it's hard to find. The Larry Milne version is apparently really short and not very good.

# ? Aug 15, 2009 16:41

Tender Bender: Sep 17, 2004; I swing both ways.

When I was little I had a book where the Ghostbusters come to catch some ghosts at this family's house, and they get in trouble and the kid ends up using one of their proton packs to save the day. The cool part was that the names in the book are replaced so it's about you and your family! I guess your parents order it from a catalog or something. I loved that book, it fuckin rocked.

# ? Aug 15, 2009 17:11

Rupert Buttermilk: Apr 15, 2007; RowboatMan: Freezing time is an old P.I. trick...

Deadpool posted:

Which copy of the novel is it? I've always wanted the Richard Mueller (who also did some writing on The Real Ghostbusters cartoon) version but it's hard to find. The Larry Milne version is apparently really short and not very good.

It's the Richard Mueller one. 250 pages. Just noticed he ends it with Peter yelling "I love this town."

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Professor Clumsy: Sep 12, 2008; Count 'em.

cletus42o posted:

TOTAL PROTONIC REVERSAL

I'm fuzzy on the whole good/bad thing.

# ? Aug 15, 2009 19:39

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