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Chairman Mao posted:I think you mean goddammit someone buy smugmelon NOW edit: here's a web site I found since it's a new page finalellipsis fucked around with this message at Nov 20, 2009 around 02:58 |
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LemonAIDS posted:"I understand Ethan's pain..and jealousy of Rory. Sucks..." 
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| # ? Nov 20, 2009 03:03 |
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LemonAIDS posted:"If Rory had some kind of life threatening disease this would pretty much explain everything, the way Rory is acting & the way his parents are." why do they think Rory needs an excuse to be nice? Wasn't that the plot of that edit a few pages ago?
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| # ? Nov 20, 2009 03:07 |
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LemonAIDS posted:"I hope Ethan gets cold feet and Rory gets Leela instead. Then we can just ditch Ethan, I'm kind of over his whining." goon spotted? Did they actually write "Leela"? Regardless, its probably a goon. LemonAIDS posted:"I hate his parents already... Making one child the "favorite" is plain wrong and one example of BAD PARENTING." Yeah what kind of parents prefer the kid that has made a success of himself and has tons of friends over the retard who has attempted murder in the past?
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| # ? Nov 20, 2009 03:11 |
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LemonAIDS posted:"I understand Ethan's pain..and jealousy of Rory. Sucks..." Tim's alternate account 
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| # ? Nov 20, 2009 03:11 |
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LemonAIDS posted:"If Rory had some kind of life threatening disease this would pretty much explain everything, the way Rory is acting & the way his parents are." why do they think Rory needs an excuse to be nice? how is Rory acting? how do they know what Rory is like normally? they seem to miss the point that it's pretty loving rude to tell you brother to gently caress off when your parent arrive in town.
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| # ? Nov 20, 2009 03:18 |
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finalellipsis posted:edit: here's a web site I found since it's a new page quote:Extreme Doormat: Lilah apologizes to Ethan for being "grouchy" all the time just because she had a little miscarriage during Christian's arc. She apologizes again during Embla's arc because it was her wanting to keep the marriage secret that led to Ethan being forced to create Embla. No doubt at some point in the future she's going to apologize for insisting on inviting Rory. quote:Life Embellished: Tim Buckley describes Ethan as a "stylized version" of himself (his avatar looks more or less like Ethan with shorter hair), and Lucas likewise of his best friend. Ethan has gradually evolved away from this (or so we hope considering how stupid he is). quote:Wangst Dissonance: Ethan hates Rory because Rory constantly manipulated him as a child, injured him for his own amusement and always got what he wanted with zero consequences... says the guy who's married to a very nice woman, has several close friends, and has attained his dream of owning his own video game store (where he abuses Rob and the customers for his own amusement) due to out-screwing-over a Rich Bitch Manipulative Bastard, all no consequences despite being Too Dumb To Live. Oh, and he will prospectively ruin his friend's career so he can get a game several months in advance.
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| # ? Nov 20, 2009 04:00 |
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I don't know why it's smaller than usual:
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| # ? Nov 20, 2009 05:03 |
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New and oddly small one. Maybe he thinks if he makes it smaller no one will notice the art sucks. edit: DAMNIT! Oh Ethan...how the gently caress did you get a woman to ever talk to you no less marry you again? Also, if his hair is supposed to be combed, why does it look messier than usual? I also love how Ethan's response to Lilah in the first panel is oddly hostile for no apparent reason. Still this is at least a joke. It might be a joke that's been done by The Simpsons better a million times but it's a joke none the less. axleblaze fucked around with this message at Nov 20, 2009 around 05:07 |
| # ? Nov 20, 2009 05:03 |
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Mildly acceptable.
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| # ? Nov 20, 2009 05:04 |
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Ethan, looking into a mirror, realizes there's a bird on his head.
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| # ? Nov 20, 2009 05:07 |
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I smiled. No seriously, it is funny, and very much well played out, for a Buckley level of comic.
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| # ? Nov 20, 2009 05:08 |
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ers how to
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At least his deoderant is on.
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| # ? Nov 20, 2009 05:11 |
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It's the same "Ethan is wacky" punchline we've seen a million times.
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| # ? Nov 20, 2009 05:13 |
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^^^ Except this time it's actually a punchline.Sleepless Dreamer posted:I smiled. Agreed, but then I read it through again and instead of finishing on the joke, I ignored the last speech bubble and tried to imagine what kind of conversation these two most misbegotten of god's creatures could be having, and precisely what parts of each others body's they imagined they were having it with: 
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| # ? Nov 20, 2009 05:20 |
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I chuckled mildly. The setup wasn't horrible, and the punchline actually was there and was at the end of the coming, rather than halfway through. baby steps, buckers!
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| # ? Nov 20, 2009 05:21 |
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Ghostlight posted:tried to imagine what kind of conversation these two most misbegotten of god's creatures could be having, and precisely what parts of each others body's they imagined they were having it with: Clearly, when she talks to him, she's afraid to look directly at the bird. He, on the other hand, can't take his eyes off of where he expects a bird to be. It's all quite simple.
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| # ? Nov 20, 2009 05:29 |
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It doesn't matter how good this comic was, he'll gently caress up the next one anyways. I guess that's why they call him fuckley Mesothelioma fucked around with this message at Nov 20, 2009 around 05:34 |
| # ? Nov 20, 2009 05:30 |
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LemonAIDS posted:"If my parents would do that, I'd leave them right there at the airport and head home without them, mentioning they aren't welcome and better not be showing up at the wedding." I suppose it's only a small consolation that this person will never have kids.
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| # ? Nov 20, 2009 05:34 |
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Vib Rib posted:Jesus loving Christ. Miscarried kids count, right?
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| # ? Nov 20, 2009 05:39 |
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Yes, another one of those, "Hey do you remember when something happened that never happened in the comic but I'm bringing it up because I need a joke, like the scar on my shoulder?" Lovely! Maybe this was obvious, but eh... 
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| # ? Nov 20, 2009 05:49 |
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JaysonAych posted:This is fantastic. Been a while since I've seen this joke.
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| # ? Nov 20, 2009 06:05 |
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I'll give Buckley credit that this strip has an amusing joke, a visual(ish) punchline and a humorous premise. That said, the punchline is  as hell. Just something like "Hey, remember the time I said that short-sleeved suits would be the next big thing?" would have sufficed.Sometimes letting the audience fill in the blanks can make a joke better, and it also cuts down on words.
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| # ? Nov 20, 2009 06:06 |
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Still too many , but he did pull off the visual gag effectively. For once, he managed to hold off on the reveal until the fourth panel and didn't telegraph it beforehand. I think he had to put some dialog in the last panel or it just would have been senseless. e:fb
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| # ? Nov 20, 2009 06:08 |
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axleblaze posted:Also, if his hair is supposed to be combed, why does it look messier than usual? Ever since someone pointed out The Bird, it's all I can see when I look at his hair. Nothing else about his hair registers with me.
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| # ? Nov 20, 2009 06:15 |
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To everyone saying the joke is good: really? Buckley's problem isn't always that he makes bad jokes - it's that he executes them poorly. If the last panel contained fewer ("You remember when I was going to be big in the fashion world with my short sleeved suit, well..."), or Lilah had an expression that was more, well, expressive (it's a cliche, but some variation on  would be a start). Panels two and three might be a good place to start using comicbook style "thinkyboxes", or not, it's a toss up.Like I said, it isn't a bad joke, just one that needs some work. A little polishing, or even some editing, wouldn't go amiss.
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| # ? Nov 20, 2009 06:25 |
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Murderion posted:To everyone saying the joke is good: really? I think her expression was actually fitting here, for once. Dumbfounded, slack-jawed awe seems rather fitting.
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| # ? Nov 20, 2009 06:37 |
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Boy I bet Ethan will have to apologize something fierce for this one.
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| # ? Nov 20, 2009 06:37 |
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Doppelganger posted:Boy I bet Fixed that for you.
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| # ? Nov 20, 2009 07:01 |
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I didn't groan when I read the "punchline" this time around. If you're going to go for that visual gag, go all the way. It's a comic, so actually use the medium to bend reality and make it funny and exaggerated. Also, the fact that in the last panel they're both just staring off into space really bothers me. One of the less painful comics he's done. It's just bland as cardboard.
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| # ? Nov 20, 2009 07:07 |
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This gag could have been a bit funny if not for the wordiness. In the first panel, Lilah should have just said "Ethan, we're late for the rehearsal disnner!" He's obviously trying to indicate that this is the rehearsal, not the wedding, so it can't just be shortened to "Ethan, hurry up!" But Buckley makes it way too long by trying to add a joke. "It's tradition that the bride and groom be at their own rehearsal dinner" isn't funny, and it takes too long. This is a pattern I've seen. Buckley doesn't seem to grasp the set up -> punchline structure of a joke. As long as the punchline is good and the timing works, nothing else about the joke needs to be funny. Instead, he tries to pepper the rest of the strip with wordy jokes, which end up competing with each other and the punchline itself, ruining the entire strip. Speaking of the punchline, let's dissect that. "Sooo...remember a long time ago when I was going to take the fashion world by storm with my 'short sleeved shirt' and you said 'don't ruin your suit, you may need it someday'" That was one whole sentence with just a single comma near the end. What can we take out, and why? "Soo..." has to go, it's completely worthless. We can take out "a long time ago". We don't need to know it was a long time ago, it doesn't matter and just takes up space. "and you said 'don't ruin your suit, you may need it someday'" - kill it. We don't need to know that Lilah disapproved, it's obvious from her expression. I'd also take away the quotes around "short sleeved suit", they're unnecessary and take up space. So we're left with "remember when I was going to take the fashion world by storm with my short sleeved suit?" Not perfect, but a big improvement. All we need to know is why the sleeves are gone. Everything else is just bloat. Remember Buckley, when writing a joke: timing is critical, don't waste a single word. (this post is proof I enjoy analyzing writing much more when the writing sucks)
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| # ? Nov 20, 2009 07:10 |
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Vizin posted:This is a pattern I've seen. Buckley doesn't seem to grasp the set up -> punchline structure of a joke. As long as the punchline is good and the timing works, nothing else about the joke needs to be funny. Instead, he tries to pepper the rest of the strip with wordy jokes, which end up competing with each other and the punchline itself, ruining the entire strip. I only know of two instances where Buckley went directly from set-up to joke with no extraneous "little jokes." They are:  and 
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| # ? Nov 20, 2009 07:25 |
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So drat small...
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| # ? Nov 20, 2009 07:28 |
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I'd still keep the so... It's like he knows she's gonna flip and poo poo and wants to soften it.
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| # ? Nov 20, 2009 07:30 |
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Oh my Lord! A suit jacket! With short sleeves! I can't stop laughing!
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| # ? Nov 20, 2009 07:38 |
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"Where's MY invitation." edit: beaten but that's okay because this is a community of ideas Pumaman fucked around with this message at Nov 20, 2009 around 07:49 |
| # ? Nov 20, 2009 07:44 |
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I love these edits. I don't think I'll ever get tired of that guy's face.
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| # ? Nov 20, 2009 07:52 |
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Kai was taken posted:I'd still keep the so... Agreed. And the gag is, as per usual this is measured in Buckley standards, a winner. It's pure fluff, but mostly unoffensive.
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| # ? Nov 20, 2009 07:53 |
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I dunno, I almost like it because it seems that However, still nowhere near the quality of Beartato or Achewood.
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| # ? Nov 20, 2009 08:13 |
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Does anyone know where I can get that .psd file that has a few example wordbubbles pre-cut-out for me? I'm pretty lazy and I don't really want to cut some out myself if I can avoid it.
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| # ? Nov 20, 2009 08:18 |
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