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blugu64
Jul 17, 2006

Do you realize that fluoridation is the most monstrously conceived and dangerous communist plot we have ever had to face?

Zool posted:

1) The attention I get (straight pipes)
2) Riding out to the bar for a few brewskies
3) Tearing down the strip in front of all the bars
4) All the strange I get because of my hog
5) The freedom of riding with the wind in my hair

Livi'n the dream bro

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Tsaven Nava
Dec 31, 2008

by elpintogrande


Zool posted:

1) The attention I get (straight pipes)
2) Riding out to the bar for a few brewskies
3) Tearing down the strip in front of all the bars
4) All the strange I get because of my hog
5) The freedom of riding with the wind in my hair

haha, fag

shipwrek
Dec 11, 2009
DON'T LEECH IMAGES YOU SACK OF BUTT

Z3n posted:

This is somewhere close to the top of the list:

When you hook up a completely trashed bike to battery power for the first time in what has to be years and the gauges swing to life. Watching the ZX9R gauges spin makes me so excited to ride it.

YES! I am a rat biker at heart ... to take some torn up POS bike and make it not only ridable but a true one of a kind with all its faults, dents, quirks and character is better than any new shiny anything. Well except maybe for a BMW because those are just

AncientTV
Jun 1, 2006

Still nothing on.

Zool posted:

1) The attention I get (straight pipes)
2) Riding out to the bar for a few brewskies
3) Tearing down the strip in front of all the bars
4) All the strange I get because of my hog
5) The freedom of riding with the wind in my hair

6. Blipping the throttle every chance you get so everyone can hear the glorious POTATOPOTATOPOTATO bellow of your V-Twin powerhouse

NitroSpazzz
Dec 8, 2006

You don't need strength when you've got style!

Pulled up to a light today near a day care when the kids were outside. Every single kid ran the the fence and started waving. I of course did the responsible thing being on a motard...gave them a thumbs up and wheelied away.

Doctor Zero
Sep 21, 2002

Would you like a jelly baby?
It's been in my pocket through 4 regenerations,
but it's still good.

NitroSpazzz posted:

Pulled up to a light today near a day care when the kids were outside. Every single kid ran the the fence and started waving. I of course did the responsible thing being on a motard...gave them a thumbs up and wheelied away.

Yeah, I love that too. I guess that would be my #8 or whatever. I go by a day care on my way home and traffic usually backs up so I'll sitting right there in front of it. I look over and there's always a couple kids plastered to the fence going So I wave to them and ... move up 3 feet when the car in front of me moves up a bit.

soy
Jul 7, 2003



I just started riding so I don't really have 5 remotely original things to add. But I have noticed that when I get home and sit down, I still feel like I'm moving forward.. It's like the feeling when you've been surfing all day. Adrenaline buzz that seems to last for about 6 hours after I get home is nice too.

Tsaven Nava
Dec 31, 2008

by elpintogrande


18: Accelerating at a normal and controlled rate from a stoplight, and then realizing the douchebag in the car next to you had floored it away from the light trying to race you. And that you had beaten him without even trying.

hayden.
Sep 11, 2007

here's a goat on a pig or something


Tsaven Nava posted:

18: Accelerating at a normal and controlled rate from a stoplight, and then realizing the douchebag in the car next to you had floored it away from the light trying to race you. And that you had beaten him without even trying.

Having the opposite happen while riding a EX250.

blugu64
Jul 17, 2006

Do you realize that fluoridation is the most monstrously conceived and dangerous communist plot we have ever had to face?

buildmyrigdotcom posted:

Having the opposite happen while riding a EX250.


Somebody say something?

Doctor Zero
Sep 21, 2002

Would you like a jelly baby?
It's been in my pocket through 4 regenerations,
but it's still good.

Tsaven Nava posted:

18: Accelerating at a normal and controlled rate from a stoplight, and then realizing the douchebag in the car next to you had floored it away from the light trying to race you. And that you had beaten him without even trying.

I've had guys at lights rev their engines next to me and try to race me. Not even a race, really. Maybe if they get a Corvette or something I might have to use more than 50% throttle.

Raven457
Aug 7, 2002
I bought Torquemada's torture equipment on e-bay!

I usually let them think they are a bad rear end at first, and then go WOT in second gear and blow by them.

Tsaven Nava
Dec 31, 2008

by elpintogrande


Doctor Zero posted:

I've had guys at lights rev their engines next to me and try to race me. Not even a race, really. Maybe if they get a Corvette or something I might have to use more than 50% throttle.

Exactly. And my bike isn't even fast by bike standards. A piddly 67hp for it's ~450lbs.

hayden.
Sep 11, 2007

here's a goat on a pig or something


Maybe it's less harsh elsewhere, but getting caught street racing (which is pretty much anything involving two vehicles going fast near each other) gets you butt hosed in Texas. I would never do it unless I wanted to risk losing my bike and license and possibly going to jail.

edit: it doesn't even have to be two cars, they can pull over a single person going fast and call it street racing. Also, watching street racing is a crime.

quote:

(a) Prohibits a person from participating in any manner in connection
with a drag race, an exhibition of vehicle speed or acceleration or to
make a vehicle speed record.

(c) Provides that a person commits an offense if, after traveling to a
location with the intent of being a spectator, the person attends as a
spectator a race, competition, contest, test, or exhibition prohibited by
Subsection (a). Provides that an offense under this subsection is a Class
C misdemeanor.

hayden. fucked around with this message at Jan 18, 2010 around 18:17

TheCosmicMuffet
Jun 21, 2009
I AM A DELUSIONAL SHITHEAD DO NOT ARGUE WITH ME


buildmyrigdotcom posted:

Maybe it's less harsh elsewhere, but getting caught street racing (which is pretty much anything involving two vehicles going fast near each other) gets you butt hosed in Texas. I would never do it unless I wanted to risk losing my bike and license and possibly going to jail.

Which texas are you in? When I was there, everybody drove like they were trying to outrun a flash flood. Which I guess was true sometimes.

Also, I thought butt loving in texas was a reward.

Tsaven Nava
Dec 31, 2008

by elpintogrande


TheCosmicMuffet posted:

Also, I thought butt loving in texas was a reward.

Depends who's catching

Z3n
Jul 21, 2007

Don't you wish all '07s were this cool?

Raven457 posted:

I usually let them think they are a bad rear end at first, and then go WOT in second gear and blow by them.

Bonus points for ripping an awesome wheelie as you rocket past them.

Raven457
Aug 7, 2002
I bought Torquemada's torture equipment on e-bay!

buildmyrigdotcom posted:

Maybe it's less harsh elsewhere, but getting caught street racing (which is pretty much anything involving two vehicles going fast near each other) gets you butt hosed in Texas. I would never do it unless I wanted to risk losing my bike and license and possibly going to jail.

yep... which is why I seldom do it, and only when I am sure there are no cops or other traffic nearby.


Z3n posted:

Bonus points for ripping an awesome wheelie as you rocket past them.

I dunno about lifting the front wheel (the ST is rather heavy), but it does move pretty damned quick when told to.

Raven457 fucked around with this message at Jan 18, 2010 around 18:58

Z3n
Jul 21, 2007

Don't you wish all '07s were this cool?

Raven457 posted:

I dunno about lifting the front wheel (the ST is rather heavy), but it does move pretty damned quick when told to.

Just give it a little clutch, it'll jump right up

frozenphil
Mar 13, 2003

YOU CANNOT MAKE A MISTAKE SO BIG THAT 80 GRIT CAN'T FIX IT!


Some of the most fun I've had in my life was cruising around in a friend's 9 second street Mustang and torching all of the smug bikers on their liter bikes from stop light to stop light. You think little kids waving at you when you do a wheelie is cute, you should see the response on a biker's face when he gets next to you at the next light after you let him see tail lights. I've never once seen a biker be a dick about it, they've all seemed genuinely excited.

Z3n
Jul 21, 2007

Don't you wish all '07s were this cool?

frozenphil posted:

Some of the most fun I've had in my life was cruising around in a friend's 9 second street Mustang and torching all of the smug bikers on their liter bikes from stop light to stop light. You think little kids waving at you when you do a wheelie is cute, you should see the response on a biker's face when he gets next to you at the next light after you let him see tail lights. I've never once seen a biker be a dick about it, they've all seemed genuinely excited.

90% of motorcyclist have no idea how to launch a motorcycle, but yeah, I'd find it amazing/awesome if there was a car that could smoke me away from a light.

the walkin dude
Oct 27, 2004

powerfully erect.

Z3n posted:

90% of motorcyclist have no idea how to launch a motorcycle, but yeah, I'd find it amazing/awesome if there was a car that could smoke me away from a light.

How does one launch a bike properly?

hayden.
Sep 11, 2007

here's a goat on a pig or something


the walkin dude posted:

How does one launch a bike properly?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OKV3zGTMfo

Z3n
Jul 21, 2007

Don't you wish all '07s were this cool?

the walkin dude posted:

How does one launch a bike properly?

Carefully.

To start with, you need to know your launch RPM, which depends on the engine config and power curve. For my SV, launch RPM was roughly 7k. I typically start at half of redline, and work my way up until I find a place where the bike doesn't bog but I can still get the clutch out as quickly as possible. I'd probably launch the ZX6R at around 9-10k, and a modern R6 would be launched at 13-14k.

Visor down, left foot on the peg, hooked under the shifter, ready to shift into second. Rev the bike to launch RPM. Don't blip the throttle, hold it where it needs to be. Let the clutch out until the bike starts to want to move forward, and hold it back with your right leg. Once the light goes green or the flag drops, you smoothly release the clutch, while adding as much gas as possible. Ideally, you'll loft a 2-4 inch wheelie all the way through first gear, using the clutch to keep the wheelie managed and then you can slam it into second and pin it. I tend to short shift out of first usually, as hitting the limiter will really slow you down, and shifting at a lower RPM will help avoid missed shifts on the big 1->2 shift.

The most important thing by far is not being afraid to burn the clutch as much as you need to. You don't want to back off the throttle, use the clutch to keep the wheelie in check, and hook it into second before redline, ideally putting you at peak torque in second gear and then you can carry that gear to near redline.

If you drop the clutch while doing this, you will backflip the bike. And you're not covering the rear brake, because hitting that 1->2 shift is way more important than wheelie control, which can be managed with your clutch.

If you want to practice this, don't do it over and over. You'll destroy your clutch plates. Give it 1-3 good launches, and then let the clutch cool down.

There's debate if it's better to have your left or right foot on the peg. Obviously, your right foot lets you control your wheelies with the rear brake, and your left foot lets you be prepared to kick it into the next gear. I don't feel like I need to have the rear brake covered, so I make sure I hit that shift.

Here's an example of getting a decent launch...
http://www.vimeo.com/5171591
You can hear the RPM drop slightly as I release the clutch, but then I use the gas to keep the RPMs up.


I'm curious as to if any of our drag racing guys have anything to contribute here. I always wanted to go to the strip to play with my launch times, but never got the chance. I always get pretty good starts, though, so it must be working.

Z3n fucked around with this message at Jan 19, 2010 around 03:35

frozenphil
Mar 13, 2003

YOU CANNOT MAKE A MISTAKE SO BIG THAT 80 GRIT CAN'T FIX IT!


Z3n posted:

I'm curious as to if any of our drag racing guys have anything to contribute here. I always wanted to go to the strip to play with my launch times, but never got the chance. I always get pretty good starts, though, so it must be working.

It really depends on if you're talking street bike or drag bike. For a street bike you launch pretty much like you said, keeping in mind that the starting line at a drag strip has an incredible amount of traction when compared to even a road race track. You can and will bog if you're too low with the RPMs or hamfisted with the clutch. However, if you drop the clutch too quickly you'll dead hook and loop it.

A dedicated drag bike with an extended swingarm and/or wheelie bars is pretty easy to launch, comparatively. With a drag bike you just sit on the limiter and drop the clutch when the light goes green and then use the clutch to modulate wheel spin.

Basically, launching a bike is like every other aspect of riding a motorcycle; you can read all about it but it will never click until you get out there and try it.

Tsaven Nava
Dec 31, 2008

by elpintogrande


19: A ride from Chicago to California strikes me as "A short trip"

Zool
Mar 21, 2005

The motard rap
for all my riders
at the track
Dirt hardpacked
corner workers better
step back


All this talk of launching makes me think of how much fun the 690SMC vs Streetfighter drag race on a damp country lane was. The KTM bucking and hopping, spinning up the rear in first, but occasionally getting enough traction to loft a wheelie. Second gear held the front up until the shift to 3rd, when the rear spun up again. The Streetfighter never at more than 1/4 throttle to maintain traction

I mean, I imagine that's what it would be like.

shipwrek
Dec 11, 2009
DON'T LEECH IMAGES YOU SACK OF BUTT

Tsaven Nava posted:

19: A ride from Chicago to California strikes me as "A short trip"

Similar to this:
My #6: day tripping to see my Mom. 5 hour run each way through the mountains peaking out at 1,330 metres (4,364 FT) through the pass.

BarbadosSlim
Apr 12, 2008


My favorite thing is when there's construction or an accident and it's completely blocking traffic, and there's a side walk next to you and there's no one on it, you drive on the side walk and completely move around the obstruction. And everyone else is sitting behind. SUCKERS!!!


Another one is parking. I love parking my scooter at bike racks or near businesses while cars have such hard times parking. I have one of the best parking spaces at work.

Cheesemaster200
Feb 11, 2004

Guard of the Citadel

BarbadosSlim posted:

My favorite thing is when there's construction or an accident and it's completely blocking traffic, and there's a side walk next to you and there's no one on it, you drive on the side walk and completely move around the obstruction. And everyone else is sitting behind. SUCKERS!!!


Another one is parking. I love parking my scooter at bike racks or near businesses while cars have such hard times parking. I have one of the best parking spaces at work.

I especially love parking in the half-car spots where schmucks in expensive cars feel they want three parking spaces for their BWM.

hayden.
Sep 11, 2007

here's a goat on a pig or something


BarbadosSlim posted:

My favorite thing is when there's construction or an accident and it's completely blocking traffic, and there's a side walk next to you and there's no one on it, you drive on the side walk and completely move around the obstruction. And everyone else is sitting behind. SUCKERS!!!

This seems like a really good way to get an extremely expensive ticket. Being on a motorcycle isn't legally very different than a car - imagine the fine you'd get for driving your car on a sidewalk.

Tsaven Nava
Dec 31, 2008

by elpintogrande


buildmyrigdotcom posted:

This seems like a really good way to get an extremely expensive ticket. Being on a motorcycle isn't legally very different than a car - imagine the fine you'd get for driving your car on a sidewalk.

Honestly in my experience scooters are in a totally difference league when it comes to how traffic cops look at you. My theory is that any cop who sees a guy riding a scooter probably feels so sorry for the rider that they're not willing to further emasculate him by writing a ticket.

In all seriousness, though, my brother gets away with all sorts of poo poo on his scooter that I'd be thrown in jail for on my bike. I think bikes still have a bit of an out-law, rebel, threatening image, whereas no one takes scooters seriously.

I know that in the City of Chicago, scooters 50cc and under are allowed to park in bike racks, and are subject to similar laws regarding parking as bicycles.

Radbot
Aug 12, 2009

Please remind me to get a job so I can stop spending all day posting in D&D about how I'm an unemployable failure


Tsaven Nava posted:

Honestly in my experience scooters are in a totally difference league when it comes to how traffic cops look at you. My theory is that any cop who sees a guy riding a scooter probably feels so sorry for the rider that they're not willing to further emasculate him by writing a ticket.

In all seriousness, though, my brother gets away with all sorts of poo poo on his scooter that I'd be thrown in jail for on my bike. I think bikes still have a bit of an out-law, rebel, threatening image, whereas no one takes scooters seriously.

I know that in the City of Chicago, scooters 50cc and under are allowed to park in bike racks, and are subject to similar laws regarding parking as bicycles.

It's true. I was riding my 250cc scooter that had expired registration, hadn't had the title transfered yet, was uninsured, and I had only a permit and not an full endorsement and was pulled over for expired registration. I asked him if I go could straight home to get it taken care of. He gave me an incredulous look and said "You do that." while handing me back my license.

shipwrek
Dec 11, 2009
DON'T LEECH IMAGES YOU SACK OF BUTT

#6 er, whatever: Hopping on my 750 to go for a late night burn and realising that back there, somewhere in the memories, is my Dad. He took me camping when I was around 9 and on the way we stopped and picked up(insert impending music here)my first bike. A Honda SL 100 Street-Trail (1970) he traded a buddy for it just to teach me to ride. I rode the tits off that bike still have a deep love for old Hondas.

Phy
Jun 27, 2008

ZWAP ZWAP ZWAP


Cheesemaster200 posted:

I especially love parking in the half-car spots where schmucks in expensive cars feel they want three parking spaces for their BWM.

Oh gosh this. Especially in otherwise full lots.

I'm not sure I'd risk it in a nearly empty lot though. If a dude's enough of a jerk to ricer-park his Mercedes, he's probably enough of a jerk to flip your ride over.

blugu64
Jul 17, 2006

Do you realize that fluoridation is the most monstrously conceived and dangerous communist plot we have ever had to face?

Phy posted:

Oh gosh this. Especially in otherwise full lots.

I'm not sure I'd risk it in a nearly empty lot though. If a dude's enough of a jerk to ricer-park his Mercedes, he's probably enough of a jerk to flip your ride over.

Sup.

Yes, the lot was mostly empty.

Slim Pickens
Jan 12, 2007

P.P.D.S.P.E.M.F.O.B.B.T.

Always being able to find a spot right by where you want to be. The 3 minutes I spend putting on a helmet and gloves and warming up the bike are quickly regained by always finding a 4-foot gap between cars to park your bike right next to the school. I rode my bike to the 4th of July fireworks for the same reason, and found parking a block away from the party I was headed to. A bike's the only way to roll to big events as far as I'm concerned.

NitroSpazzz
Dec 8, 2006

You don't need strength when you've got style!

Slim Pickens posted:

Always being able to find a spot right by where you want to be. The 3 minutes I spend putting on a helmet and gloves and warming up the bike are quickly regained by always finding a 4-foot gap between cars to park your bike right next to the school. I rode my bike to the 4th of July fireworks for the same reason, and found parking a block away from the party I was headed to. A bike's the only way to roll to big events as far as I'm concerned.

Agree with this completely. Parking in a car at work means at least a 5 minute walk to the building I work in getting there at my usual time, plus another minute or two getting to my office. Ride the bike in I am there in under 2.

Bucephalus
Mar 19, 2009


Rolling into some tiny town I've never heard of, stopping at the 60-year-old diner, having the best burger/coffee/pie I've ever tasted, and leaving a tip larger than the tab.

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the walkin dude
Oct 27, 2004

powerfully erect.

Being able to park anywhere I want on campus, without risking a ticket. Along with the nicely-placed motorcycle parking spots. If I so dare park my car anywhere outside my "legal" boundaries, I get zapped with tickets after tickets. Not so with the Ninjas.

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