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I wouldn't be surprised if it's true, what the article so conveniently leaves out is that if anything is more of a sign of the gross disparity between the amount of wealth controlled by the top percent vs everyone else. I mean what's the latest figure, that the entire bottom 50% of the country has a whole 2.5% of the pie to fight over between them, And we wonder why the top percent pays a lot in taxes. also quote:but not anywhere near 1,000 times as much http://www.usatoday.com/money/companies/management/story/CEO-pay-2010/45634384/1 if average CEO pay is about $9 million, while the average worker pay is say $45,000, they are making over 200x the average worker, they drat well better pay a higher percent in taxes compared to the average worker. And I'm not sure if that pay counts as the very top .1%
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It's a case of arriving at the right answer for the completely wrong reasons. But those people probably want us to vote for Perry, so it's not even the right answer
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Sep 23, 2011 19:54
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Dominion posted:What right answer is it? They're saying to vote against Obama because otherwise you are dumb. They're right in the fact Obama is terrible and shouldn't be reelected, but for the fact he's done more to frame the debate in the right wings favor than W could've dreamed of, and a hell of a lot of people had their most likely unrealistic hopes destroyed. They however probably think Obama is a socialist or something.
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Sep 23, 2011 20:00
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Dominion posted:Obama has been a disappointment, but he would have to literally murder children in the Rose Garden to get me to consider for a split second voting for anyone the GOP has put up so far. Well yeah but see this is the problem, not voting for Obama doesn't mean voting for the GOP. But the GOP is doing a fantastic job in scaring people into voting for Obama vs the unsettling thought of having to say "holy poo poo Rick Perry is going to be our next president"
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Sep 23, 2011 20:06
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Dominion posted:Are you referring to someone stepping up to primary Obama, or are you referring to voting for a third party? Because the former (perhaps sadly) isn't going to happen and the latter is a wasted vote. Both. Yeah it won't happen, and it is a wasted vote(especially since even if there was a strong 3rd showing in the presidential race, it just goes to the House for election if there's no majority), but it doesn't mean it can't happen. Especially if there was a liberal version of the tea party to basically do what the tea party did to the GOP, make Democrats held hostage to the will of progressives. But yeah, that is a pipe dream
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Sep 23, 2011 20:15
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XyloJW posted:So, a friend of mine who is a pretty good person posted this on Facebook with the explanation "Hate crime is terrible!" Point out the fact if those kids did in fact attack the man for being white than it's a hate crime and they will ideally be charged as such. It's the same thing with the Wisconsin fair when the same people went "Look at all these black kids attacking white people and not getting charged with it!!!!" *at least one person arrested was charged with hate crimes* It's not like almost a 1/5 of race hate crimes are actually from people with an anti-white bias.....oh wait http://www2.fbi.gov/ucr/hc2009/incidents.html It's funny, even after showing some people the statistics, many are still convinced hate crime legislation is used solely on white people against black people for only race crimes. Though once I got a response from someone that the numbers for sexual orientation aren't right because there are roving gangs of gays that go around attacking straight people and never get charged for it 
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Sep 25, 2011 16:24
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XyloJW posted:And thanks to you for providing the statistical proof that 70% of hate crimes are against black people and 17% are against white people. Everyone knew that already, but a huge segment of people really think hate crimes are only ever used by the liberal PC courts on white people against black people for every crime a white person does or some zany poo poo. That hate crimes exist solely to punish heterosexual white males for no reason, not like they just tend to perpetuate a good deal of them or anything. It's pretty disconcerting the number of people who when forced to face actual numbers will pull the "nope, they're lying and making it up to fit their agenda" card. All the categories from race to religion, to property and physical crimes are all probably under reported as hell too.
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Sep 26, 2011 15:18
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drat that's a long way of saying "The Nazis were National socialists like Barry Hussein" Not to mention the real David Kaiser already spoke out on this 2 years ago http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/proportions.asp
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Sep 26, 2011 18:50
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Sarion posted:What insane bizarro-United States of America do these people live in where kids are no longer taught about the Declaration of Independence or Constitution? My 11 year-old just learned about both last year in 4th grade, and I suspect he'll get more in depth coverage of each in middle school and high school in years to come. Texas  Seriously though, didn't even Virginia flip the poo poo at the change in Texas school books because they took Thomas Jefferson out of it. I mean how the gently caress do you teach the
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XyloJW posted:And a drama aside, someone threw down the gauntlet and basically said "I find it hilarious that you talk about how evil pre-marital sex is and condemn contraceptives and say that women who do that are slutty, when you cheated on your last boyfriend." We nee follow up to this. I'm actually kind of jealous, I wish I had people who posted ridiculous things on my friends list just for a good laugh or argument, but the worst it's ever got on mine is the standard "Drug test welfare recipients." which actually created a great near nonsensical babbling when I called someone out on their capacious amount of weed smoking during college and asked if they should've been drug tested before getting their PELL grant and federal loans.
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the posted:I'm the guy with the h-bar avatar. Tell her she's free to work 3 jobs if she wants but sane people don't want to live in a world where in one of the richest nation's in the history of everything people need to work 3 jobs to not be living in poverty.
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CheesyDog posted:This would be better with the 1934 picture next to a picture of children working in sweatshops circa 1900. "drat kids these days, look at you trying to get a handout for your family, go get a job and help your family, lazy fucks" *edit* Speaking of lazy fucks, of the people I know, the good deal from probably both left and right could be considered not all that healthy, it's definitely more so on the right, because apparently eating healthy and riding a bike to places once in a while is un American or something(like some to the point of King of The Hill-esque levels of eating steak/ capacious amounts of other red meat daily). These are the people who are going to be such a massive drain on medicare in the future from obesity related problems it's hilarious in its irony. Also why do so many of these people love pick up trucks when they have no need for them. Amused to Death fucked around with this message at 15:58 on Nov 7, 2011 |
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Radish posted:Brilliant. Mind if I steal it to post around?
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Tomahawk posted:Most importantly, you probably know somebody who owns a pickup truck. For the one time every couple of years the average person actually needs one, you could just buy them a case of beer for helping out. Yeah this is exactly what I came to post. Obviously there are people who have actual constant use of a pick up, but as someone said I'm talking about the culture around them, people in white collar jobs and such you think worked major construction with the amount of bed and horsepower they're dragging around. I mean even Xylo's reason is actually pragmatic, I'm talking the people who just need a pick up regardless, like even in high school, you had 18-19 year olds in the suburbs who the first auto they'd buy with their own cash was a pick up, and it'd be this important thing, not in terms of their furst auto they bought with their own money, but the sheer fact of owning a pick up, like they were going to use that pick up to start some sort of side business, when in reality they work at Target and the most laborious thing they do is drinking. There's just a weird culture around them, and granted this is true for a lot of things, most are not as wasteful as pick-ups though.
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Nov 8, 2011 16:03
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For many trans people there's actually no surgery. Hormones own.ts12 posted:The description in the email is actually accurate, Stephen Thorne is the highest ranking transgender policeman in the country. Well you see ladies aren't supposed to be cops, that's breaking gender roles(especially since these same people prefer the cops beat the crap out of everyone, and that's very unlady like)so inherently, she must be a lesbian to be a cop. It just makes so much sense.
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In fact, she was attacked by LGBT officers for not being supportive of the community (
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Asnorban posted:This was recently linked on my Facebook -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bavou_SEj1E&feature=share This video completely destroys its own point. Notice she had 15 kids despite our "welfare state" giving her basically jack poo poo, it still didn't destroy the will of someone to have over a dozen kids. Some people are just jackasses regardless, kids shouldn't suffer for it.
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Dec 7, 2011 19:25
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Keshik posted:It's moments like that when I really begin to seriously think the American experiment is beyond recovery. It most certainly is. I suppose the most productive counter point is if the US mainland was actually invaded by Mongolians and was facing a war that actually threatened us for once, would they support a draft. I mean I'm pretty resiliently anti draft but if the ghost armies of Kubla Khan were streaming over the Canadian border now with tanks instead of horses I'd probably support it.
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Sarion posted:That's awesome, where is it from? Also, isn't Columbus Day already considered Italian Pride Day or something? Kind of like St. Patrick's Day is an Irish Pride day, sort of. Yeah, at least here in the north east it is given how many people are of Italian heritage up here.(same for St Patty days actually as well given all the Irish as well)
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rscott posted:So this guy's brother hasn't worked a day in his life but somehow affords all of these nice things purely through welfare? That doesn't seem to be very plausible to me. It's not unless he is in fact a drug dealer. And "welfare" means food stamps, it almost always means food stamps. You can't get TANF, the actual cash welfare without having a job and a child. I think there's around 4.7 million people receiving TANF, vs 50 million reviving SNAP. Yeah living the high life on $200 in food stamps a month(and most states have a lower maximum amount I believe). And the average TANF benefit is like $230 a month on a national level. See, all these welfare queens though have magic powers where we can go months at a time without ever having to eat and it's in fact all being spent on dope and malt liquor.
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Taerkar posted:We get a cheap plastic cup that says #1 worker. On this note. My step-father(and formerly my grandmother) work for a company that produces medical equipment. It was at first taken over by Tyco, then Coviden. For 10 years of service you use to get a $1,000 bonus. Now you get a plaque that says thanks for 10 years of service.
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When anyone brings up the BUT THEY WORKED HARD in regards to taxing the rich more., you should just post: http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/nov/07/one-per-cent-wealth-destroyers On Wall Street not only do people tend to have the traits of sociopaths, they have no discernible skill beyond a monkey rolling the dice. Well that and income mobility shows near everyone at the top stays in at the top, they get their jobs from being born into connections and a decent life.
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When people throw out the "redistributing wealth thing" you need to throw the gauntlet at them. Wealth is not stagnant, it's either going up, or down. And the 2 groups it's moving between the most are the miniscule amounts of extremely wealthy, and everyone else regardless if they're making $65,000 or $18,000 a year. Either admit you love the rich and they should just have all the wealth since the saying is true, it takes money to make money. The rich have all the money, they will use it to get the rest and destroy you. Or admit you love the government welfare even if you're not on more obvious welfare programs. That's it, there's no in between, cause I mean christ, anything the government does that cost money as long as wealth is not equally divided is a redistribution of wealth.
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archangelwar posted:So, another nice Facebook story. This time, there is a picture of a mailman asleep in his truck, and 50+ comments that boil down to 'OUR TAX MONEY AT WORK!' Too bad the USPS hasn't received tax money since before I was born.
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Chunk posted:That's several times the reported rate that every single other report has stated. I think denial by not taking the test also counts. In terms of actual testing only about 2% last I heard actually tested positive, and of course it was overwhelmingly for weed. quote:Nearly 1,600 welfare applicants have refused to take the test since testing began in mid July, but they aren’t required to say why. Thirty-two applicants failed the test, and more than 7,000 have passed, according to the Department of Children and Families. The majority of positives were for marijuana The thing is does refusing to take the test actually mean straight up refusing, or just not showing up to the place the day you were supposed to do it, because there's a huge difference. I mean you're a low income person who works a lovely job and has kids(this can be assumed since it's near impossible to get actual cash welfare unless you are employed with a child), after spending 3 hours at the DSS office, which may have cost you a day or 1/2 day of pay, are you going to take even more time to go to Labcorp or whoever is doing the testing if you don't already have time free, and more importantly have to put up the $30-40 for the test out of your pocket before being reimbursed. Also, in the more general realm of drug testing is dumb at all levels, for all those people who didn't show up, let's assume most of them were worried about weed given it's the most popular drug as well as stays in your system the longest. So, you just wait 3 weeks, reapply and do it again, and the state doles out $40 for your drug test that you "failed/never took".
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Frankly the best argument against that stupid drug testing picture isn't facts and poo poo. Seriously most people don't care, it's been proven enough times before when you swamp their brains with facts. So the best response to back up not drug testing is "Yeah well you know who says you shouldn't drug test, the constitution Activist judges for life yo!  "
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Are we in fact the only country that does drug testing on that huge a level? That's what I always heard, but it's generally been from other Americans.
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If you combine everything together it may be right, but they're just lumping together social security, medicare, medicaid, SNAP, the VA, and god knows what else to try say "Lookit how many people are completely dependent on the government and taking YOUR tax money". Hell they're probably including federal employees as government dependence. As for the 70% of government spending goes to "dependence" programs, given their definition of dependence programs, what the gently caress else is it supposed to go to. Only things left are the military, infrastructure, science and arts. *edit* Nvm, I was thinking of the 2013 budget.
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THE GAYEST POSTER posted:Point out that a Republican introduced SOPA, while a Democrat introduced PIPA. And that Obama threatened to veto it.
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Feb 26, 2012 20:50
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chesh posted:Sorry, I may have conflated or confused numbers. It was late! In the linked NPR article is states that 3.2 million Americans have no form of photo ID, based on this study: Basically, one just needs to remember how poor and/or rural a lot of America. I mean someone said it's basically a poll tax, which it is. Case in point, forget voting, look at this map of the amount of American households even in the 21st century that do not have any type of bank account http://money.cnn.com/news/specials/storysupplement/unbanked_underbanked/index.html We're not as developed as we like to think. Strangely, given the need for ID at a bank minus the elderly who have been going to the same bank for 4 decades, that map is also probably a decent barometer of the amount of people without an ID that'd be valid for voting as well.
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So what I'm reading from that is conservatives are actually less evolved creatures unlike the whimpy liberals who created western civilization. Also, they drink bad beer and eat bad food. I agree.
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That black teenager was found not to be Travyon Martin and the original conservative blogger who posted it in fact made an apology about it, you can start there.
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If I recall they also dropped a bunch of children from SCHIP vs raising the sales tax by one percent. Also that whole transplant scandal that happens, when Jan Brewer essentially became a death panel. Reminder that those patients who were promised transplants didn't just have the state go "hm, meh, no, sorry, gently caress you" to them. A Republican assembly member from I believe Illinois actually went through the Arizona budget after this became a national story and found the money for the transplants by finding spending that was in fact truly wasteful in terms of being redundant, so the state went back and said to the people who needed transplants "hm, meh, no, sorry, gently caress YOU" Seriously, Republicans basically put up death panels. The money was found for these people and they let them die instead.
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Mooseontheloose posted:Does anyone have the college grade response here? That is making the rounds on my fb feed. Aside from the being nonsense route, you can also try this that someone here wrote up a while ago to counter this quote:To get a more apt example, you need to limit the amount of possible points available to the entire class. We’ll set the student number at 100 for simplicity and the limit at 7,000 points per test so that if it was evenly distributed among all 100 students everyone would get a C on each 100 point test. Let’s assume that the distribution of all points follows the current U.S. distribution of income. Here’s how we end up:
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A Fancy 400 lbs posted:Just a small correction, but I've never seen a D be considered a passing grade. In many cases it isn't, especially at the university level, but I know in high school, at least mine, a 60 was a passing grade for all classes except maybe AP.
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MisterFusion posted:Is there some concise way to explain why this picture is bullshit?  And start with the disclaimer that yes 37% isn't the effective tax rate of someone on minimum wage normally so he doesn't decide to do a strawman on that, but the point is it can be for someone making a miniscule amount of money compared to Mittens and company.
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Good Citizen posted:- Unions can no longer require members to pay dues for membership. Oddly enough when parts of the law were struck down by federal court, this part was(along with automatic collection from checks) and Citizen's United was cited for it ruling that collecting dues in that fashion was by far the most efficient way for a union to engage in speech, and their rights to free speech would be hindered in an unfair fashion otherwise. The yearly re certification was also struck down I believe.
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Wolfsheim posted:Or maybe the general thinking just doesn't get past "gently caress brown people" Basically a mix of this combined with a moral development that matured at "But..but..but, it's the law!!  " and can't actually view it as a human issue. That and the standard personal bias of their ancestors being the good immigrants.
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VideoTapir posted:a significant segment of America Fixed that.
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RaySmuckles posted:* You need to register to vote, unless you are on welfare. If you are living off the efforts of others, please do us the favor of sitting down and shutting up until you are on your own again. I do hope your dad plans to stop voting once he starts collecting social security, especially once he's collected what he has paid in. In fact one could only hope all old people start doing that. Also I hope you punch your dad at the next family dinner for all of us. Or at least give him an angry talking to.
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