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thegreatcodfish, Where do you live? Why do you still go to that church? Do you do anything to counter his incorrect information he's putting out there as "facts?" It is too bad that churches do this and get away with it. If you're tax exempt, stay out of politics.
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honestshrubber posted:Taking positions on public policy issues is not the same as "getting into politics." I really don't think there is anything wrong (legally or ethically) with a church or other non-profit expressing its views on policy issues and urging its members to participate in the political process, especially when there are no elections coming up that they could be viewed as trying to influence. You don't find any ethical problems with this at all when the views they are expressing are based on outright lies in many of the cases that he listed?
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thegreatcodfish posted:Oh, I do. Believe me. You can't just stand up in the middle of the meeting and start yelling though. Hey, no problem. I know it can be tough when you're the only one...my question was directed at honestshrubber who indicated that he saw nothing ethically wrong with what was going on. Good for you for keeping an open mind. My family is not crazy (as in Palin levels of crazy) but I am extremely liberal and they are not so much. I cannot have a political discussion with them as they don't believe anything I present to them, no matter how sourced it is, and will believe anything Bill O'Reilly says. We don't talk about politics anymore, as it makes my mother too angry. I know how you feel.
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Ah, but you see, we only use the parts of the bible that support our case-- so I'll ignore that. It's sad, but true.
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Toasticle posted:No more from my rightwing boss. Are you serious? Do you think it was directly related to your conversation with him, or are there other factors? Holy crap that sucks.
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Toasticle posted:I live in a "right to work" state so I don't think any of that matters. Well, if it was a protected class, it would matter. Being in a right to work state doesn't mean you can be fired for being pregnant, or black, or any other such characteristic of a protected class.
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Not an e-mail, but I've decided it's probably not even worth trying with people anymore. A guy I'm friends posted some status on his facebook regarding his belief in global warming/climate change/whatever, and of course some people jumped all over it. I linked one (well, the only) person arguing against global warming to the Home documentary to watch... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqxENMKaeCU and her rebuttal to me was a link to this story... http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1254619/Baby-girl-survives-shot-chest-parents-global-warming-suicide-pact.html I poo poo you not. After I got that, I said But that has absolutely nothing to indicate that global warming is false, as you claim, but is just a story about a couple of crazies that shoot their children. I don't really see how that is relevant to this debate at all. But, if we're going for crazy news stories, then I guess... http://omg.yahoo.com/blogs/a-line/lady-gagas-head-games/389?nc That's the extent of trying that I do...I guess it's not really worth it to try to convince some people. And yes, the other girl in question is young (24ish) and college educated. Sigh.
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Miss Fats posted:I saw the same thing. The good news is now I have 2 fewer friends. Same here. And one was an aunt.
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Deuce posted:I've got this going on facebook right now about Obama being credited for the OBL kill. "Obama didn't kill OBL, soldiers did! And just weeks ago he was considering not paying them!" I responded by asking where she'd heard anyone suggest that Obama actually pulled the trigger and whether or not she was aware that it wasn't Obama holding up the soldier pay. One of my husband's facebook friends posted the same status about Obama not killing Osama and the troop pay thing. He posted in response on there saying that saying Obama didn't kill Osama in the same way Osama wasn't flying the planes on 9/11 and no matter what you think about Obama he deserves some of the credit for it (and he also addressed the troop pay thing as well). The person deleted his response, he reposted it a couple more time and it was deleted by the person each time. Finally, my husband was unfriended by the original poster. That actually made him feel pretty good-- the other guy was basically indicating he had no response for that and would rather delete him then deal with it.
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Miss Fats posted:It's a Mathematical certainty! Ha! Amazing!
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Mister Bates posted:
This...actually happened? This year?
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