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Just got my Leopold with browns on Friday. Holy crap do I love this thing. Not only does it feel better to type on but it also sounds so much more fun. I don't know why I didn't do this sooner... I keep trying to find more reasons to type. I got it to replace my crappy keyboard at work, but now I think I'm going to have to buy another one for at home. At least I think I'll be able to expense my work one, much like I got them to pay for my trackball.
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NihilCredo posted:Key combinations spread all over the layout, or (from what little I understand of vim) having to switch between 'editing' and 'typing' modes is supposed to be less tedious than moving your hand 15cm (or 5cm and reaching with the pinky/ring)? Trust me, if you have any sort of proficiency with vi/m, there's rarely a need to leave the home row.
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| # ? Apr 15, 2012 04:27 |
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The whole point of vim is to not have to move your hands from the home row at all. There is a very steep learning cliff, but once you get past it you can perform many very complicated tasks very easily and quickly.
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| # ? Apr 15, 2012 05:15 |
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After reading +10 pages of keyboard porn in the last hour, I want to get a customized WASD-brand keyboard even though I already own a DAS. Thanks guys.  e: Can I just order the keycaps on the website for 50-60? Would they fit with the current DAS keyboards?
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| # ? Apr 16, 2012 05:56 |
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Avocados posted:After reading +10 pages of keyboard porn in the last hour, I want to get a customized WASD-brand keyboard even though I already own a DAS. Thanks guys. Yes Yes
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| # ? Apr 16, 2012 06:04 |
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Bucket Joneses posted:Trust me, if you have any sort of proficiency with vi/m, there's rarely a need to leave the home row. Very true. I've massively helped my efficiency in vim thought by remapping some keys: Ctrl is on the alt key, mimicing the command key position on Macs - I find this far more comfortable. Alt is moved to the windows key position, and windows out to the former Ctrl key position. Escape is mapped onto the Caps-Lock key, making it a thousand times easier to change modes.
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| # ? Apr 16, 2012 11:39 |
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Moey posted:So I currently have a Leopold Tenkeyless (Blues) Bumping this. Anyone have this same issue, or know of what I am doing wrong?
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| # ? Apr 16, 2012 16:34 |
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Moey posted:Bumping this. Anyone have this same issue, or know of what I am doing wrong? Can you hotswap other keyboards?
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| # ? Apr 16, 2012 17:06 |
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ColHannibal posted:Can you hotswap other keyboards? All other keyboards hot swap fine. Just this one seems to have issues when disconnecting the mini usb from the KB instead of the back of the PC.
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| # ? Apr 16, 2012 17:58 |
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Moey posted:All other keyboards hot swap fine. Just this one seems to have issues when disconnecting the mini usb from the KB instead of the back of the PC. I've had the same thing repeatedly happen to me with Leopolds, but it doesn't always happen. From my experience, if you just unplug the Leopold (shouldn't matter whether it's the keyboard side or the computer side) and plug it back in, Windows will pick it up the second time.
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| # ? Apr 16, 2012 22:34 |
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Moey posted:Bumping this. Anyone have this same issue, or know of what I am doing wrong? The Leopold is otherwise awesome and I'd definitely recommend it.
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| # ? Apr 16, 2012 22:49 |
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Does anyone make a gaming keyboard like the G110 in white?
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| # ? Apr 17, 2012 01:37 |
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Khorne posted:The manufacturing of the leopold mini usb connector is terrible. Especially when combined with their method of emulating NKRO over USB. The majority of EKB's RMAs for the board are due to it. Which end you plug or unplug should make no difference in theory, but it's likely due to the keyboard itself. Funny you should say this. I'm waiting to get my RMA'ed Leopold from EK back because I was having issues that I'm pretty sure relates to the cable. Other than that, I love the thing.
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| # ? Apr 17, 2012 14:36 |
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I picked up a Leopold tenkeyless "otaku" (blank keys) from Elitekeyboards and it's straight awesome. No problems with the USB, fast shipping, and the supposedly quiet cherry reds still make a fun click. I guess I need to learn to type with a softer touch.
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| # ? Apr 18, 2012 22:37 |
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soru posted:I guess I need to learn to type with a softer touch. Screw that. Mash away. I love the sound of my Blues. I ordered a second Leopold, so I will see if that has the same issues as my current one. I should also try testing a different cable. For an RMA to Elitekeyboards, do I pay for return shipping?
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| # ? Apr 18, 2012 22:56 |
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soru posted:I picked up a Leopold tenkeyless "otaku" (blank keys) from Elitekeyboards and it's straight awesome. No problems with the USB, fast shipping, and the supposedly quiet cherry reds still make a fun click. I guess I need to learn to type with a softer touch. I put o rings on mine, but at this point I think I have just developed a softer touch. Or maybe having alps switches at work makes the reds seem tame by comparison.
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| # ? Apr 18, 2012 23:03 |
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soru posted:I picked up a Leopold tenkeyless "otaku" (blank keys) from Elitekeyboards and it's straight awesome. No problems with the USB, fast shipping, and the supposedly quiet cherry reds still make a fun click. I guess I need to learn to type with a softer touch. Waiting on mine. International shipping... 
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| # ? Apr 19, 2012 01:08 |
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I've got a couple Leopolds and I think they're great! Once you hit around a dozen keyboards though, it gets harder to justify buying anything that's not a rare vintage board or something custom. 
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TLG James posted:Does anyone make a gaming keyboard like the G110 in white? Razer used to have a "professional" line, I don't know if they still do, which was just white versions of some of their stuff, off the top of my head I believe there was a Tarantula keyboard, a white Death Adder, and definitely 1 or 2 white mouse pads. That said it's hard for me to really recommend any Razer product since they all feel like they are made out lovely Fischer Price plastic, though the Death Adder is a pretty strong exception. So are these CMStorm keyboards just re badged Filco Tenkeyless? they sure look like them and since Rosewills are Filcos I wouldn't be surprised. Edit: Dammit I don't need this but I sure do love Mass Effect. buy it now and unlock that terrible Collector's AR from ME2 that nobody liked. 4000 Dollar Suit fucked around with this message at Apr 19, 2012 around 02:44 |
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4000 Dollar Suit posted:
Yeah the CM Storm Quickfire comes from the same manufacturer as the Filco TKL. It's also like $64 from superbiiz right now with the coupon code according to: http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?...rry-blues-64-FS I got mine a couple of weeks ago and I'm pretty happy with it.
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Rexxed posted:Yeah the CM Storm Quickfire comes from the same manufacturer as the Filco TKL. It's also like $64 from superbiiz right now with the coupon code according to: http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?...rry-blues-64-FS 
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DinosaurHouseParty posted:Keep us updated on the mooglization of your CM. Everything is about the same on it for the moment, and my camera is no better so the previous picture will have to suffice. About the only thing I changed was replacing the yellow Esc key with a doubleshot orange X%&#! one from http://pimpmykeyboard.com/ (signature plastics). Their Panic, purple oops!, X%&#! and dobuleshot red esc keys fit Cherry switches with a mostly row 4 profile, but the rest aren't made to fit cherry switches (the Senior Moment key looks pretty close, I think it's supposed to go on backspace but I can't get the stems into the key so I think the mold is a little off). old picture:  As for the Zinc keycaps, I've had a few instances where I accidentally hold down one of the keys since the zinc keycaps change the force of the switch so much, so I'm either going to need to desolder and mod a few of my blue switches with black springs for a ghetto green switch or take the keycaps off at some point. I don't like screwing up while I'm gaming by accidentally moving when I'm not supposed to be, but I like the feel of the metal keycaps, so I'm sort of undecided on how to proceed. The final plan for this board is still to use the diablo set of keycaps, but that's still a while off so I'm trying different things while I wait. If I did a ghetto green mod on WASD keys, I could undo it for the Diablo set, but that's extra work and I'm kind of busy, so nothing has happened yet. Finalized set design (they're currently waiting on the first proof set from SP):  Depending on how dark the dark gray plastic of the keycaps turns out, I might cover the gray top paint of my CM Storm Quickfire with some vinyl adhesive stuff like others have done, although I probably won't use the Carbon Fiber pattern that seems so popular. It seems kind of tacky to have vinyl that looks like another material to me, although as you can tell by my keyboard, aesthetics aren't really my thing. I've ordered some stuff for some other keyboard projects while I wait, though. I bought a WYSE terminal board not too long ago for the keycaps. I'm going to clean and retrobright the keycaps, but since I'm not going to use them soon (I was too late to get into the moogle kit group buy), I'm also going to retrobright the case and I ordered parts for Soarer's Teensy AT/XT/PS2/Terminal to USB converter to play with. If I can get the hang of working with the teensy microcontroller, I'm eventually going to get a 122 key IBM Model F and convert it to USB. I'm hoping the internals of a Model F will fit into a new 122 key shell from Unicomp that I could get in black. If I mounted the Teensy internally, I could even put the LEDs into the LED windows and basically end up with rather large N-Key rollover buckling spring board. The WYSE board itself is nothing special but it's a pretty solidly built and the one I got was in remarkably good shape for having been used in a paint store for who knows how long. It uses Cherry MX Black switches. I haven't done any electronics tinkering since my computer architecture class so it will be fun just to mess around with that even if I don't have long term plans for that particular keyboard. The parts for that are going to be in the mail for a while so it might be next month before I can actually do anything with it. I bought a few components from Chinese sellers on ebay, so shipping can often take a couple of weeks. My WYSE board looks like this one (though this is not a picture of my actual keyboard), I kind of like the serious business styling and the use of multiple grey tones and black:  I also ordered some EL wire, I want to see how it looks inside my CM Storm under the smoky semitransparent ABS keycaps that I'm using. I doubt it will be a permanent addition because it's kind of odd backlighting, but I wanted to play with some EL wire and buying it for this was a good excuse. It's coming from another ebay seller in China so it might be a few weeks before I can mess around with it. I saw this guy add backlighting to a rubber dome keyboard with USB powered EL wire in this youtube video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEW2HjCn0vk ...and while he doesn't have semitransparent keycaps, you can kind of get an idea of what the project would entail if I was dedicated to doing the whole thing (which I'm really not, unless I decide that I like it after I try it out).
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My Leopold arrived today, and I've gotta say: I do prefer the MX brown switches to the blue on my CMStorm. The Otaku style is taking some getting used to, and what I find really funny is that I can forget where my hand is and look at the keyboard to regain positioning, despite the keys missing their labels. Funny how that works.
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krooj posted:My Leopold arrived today, and I've gotta say: I do prefer the MX brown switches to the blue on my CMStorm. The Otaku style is taking some getting used to, and what I find really funny is that I can forget where my hand is and look at the keyboard to regain positioning, despite the keys missing their labels. Funny how that works.
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DinosaurHouseParty posted:The keys are also missing the little dimples? Nope, the normal F and J are dimpled, although I don't usually use these as a point of reference.
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Can anybody comment on the ergonomically weighted Realforce keyboards? I'm thinking about picking up one in a reasonable timeframe (read: not now), and I'd like some feedback as to how it compared to either MX Browns or Blues.
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Phone posted:Can anybody comment on the ergonomically weighted Realforce keyboards? I'm thinking about picking up one in a reasonable timeframe (read: not now), and I'd like some feedback as to how it compared to either MX Browns or Blues. What do you mean, ergonomically weighted? You mean variably weighted? I don't think the variable weighting has any ergonomic effects. I have both a 55g uniform weighted and a variable weighted Realforce. I think the variable weighted is absolutely great for typing and programming. A consistent 45g weight would be basically the same. I think 55g is perfectly good too. I don't have a real preference between them. Also, I think somebody mentioned using a variable weighted keyboard for gaming and it was just fine. I agree that it would be fine. The differences in weighting is not noticeable unless you're looking for it. Generally speaking, Topres basically the way the force diagram would suggest. It's very clear when a key has and hasn't been pressed (not that the same isn't true of blues). I'm not sure you can rationally say whether, of Topre or some Cherry color, one is better than the other, unless you're bottoming out on some Cherry and getting joint problems. I got weak feelings of pain in my finger joints after banging away at an Apple chiclet keyboard at work, that's why I got the Topres. I'd say the probability of you being happy with a Topre switch is greater than that of you being happy with a Cherry switch. I've never seen anybody unhappy with them, but I have seen people happy with them (after trying various switch types), and I did not like Cherry MX blue switches the times I got to type on them. My personal key type ranking right now is Topre variable > Topre 55g > buckling spring* > Thinkpad chiclet > Thinkpad scissor-switch > Cherry MX Blue. *this ranking ignores the mind-crippling cacophony of buckling spring switches. shrughes fucked around with this message at Apr 21, 2012 around 13:15 |
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I have a MX Blue and Brown board currently, but I always wanted to know what the Topre mess is about. Plus, I could be the weirdo with nothing printed on the keycaps, no tenkey, and pink keycaps. I said ergonomically weighted because that's what Elitekeyboards said.
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| # ? Apr 21, 2012 16:40 |
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Hello everyone. The Logitech Illuminated Keyboard is either out of stock (discontinued apparently) in the UK, or bloody expensive (£57). Are there any other decent illuminated keyboards available?
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Does anyone have a Leopold FC500R? What do you think of it? I'm considering buying one, specifically with brown switches. Edit: either the FC500R or this: http://elitekeyboards.com/products....s&pid=fc200rtab I'm not sure yet. neurotech fucked around with this message at Apr 25, 2012 around 00:08 |
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WattsvilleBlues posted:Hello everyone. I dunno, but I have the wireless version and its the best keyboard I've ever used. I love it.
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| # ? Apr 25, 2012 00:02 |
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WattsvilleBlues posted:Hello everyone. It's probably discontinued because it had a fatal flaw: You can't simultaneously press W+Shift+Space. So if you're a gamer and you own that keyboard, you can't run and jump. The Blackwidow ultimate has lighting if you're up for a mechanical keyboard.
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| # ? Apr 25, 2012 00:53 |
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Surely that could be resolved with a software update? If not, there must be a revision on the way soon?
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neurotech posted:Does anyone have a Leopold FC500R? What do you think of it? I have one I bought for work and it's absolutely fantastic. I'm going to need to buy another one for at home shortly, as regular keyboards just feel like mush now. I only have one complaint, and it's that the spacebar feels different than the rest of the keys, due to the stabilizer.
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| # ? Apr 25, 2012 01:08 |
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WattsvilleBlues posted:Surely that could be resolved with a software update? If not, there must be a revision on the way soon? No, it's the way that board (and most non mechs) are physically built. Corsair K90 maybe?
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Wonder_Bread posted:I have one I bought for work and it's absolutely fantastic. I'm going to need to buy another one for at home shortly, as regular keyboards just feel like mush now. Which one did you buy? What do you mean "feels different"?
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| # ? Apr 25, 2012 01:30 |
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I just unpacked my first mechanical keyboard, a Quickfire Rapid with Brown switches, and I'm very pleased so far. The build quality seems extremely solid and the feel of the switches is amazing. It's quieter than I expected too, really no louder than the very old and worn out rubber-dome it's replacing. I think I'm already getting the hang of not bottoming out the keys, too.
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Noni posted:It's probably discontinued because it had a fatal flaw: You can't simultaneously press W+Shift+Space. So if you're a gamer and you own that keyboard, you can't run and jump. I don't get it, I have a Logitech K800 and it can do that just fine.
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Jamuraan posted:I don't get it, I have a Logitech K800 and it can do that just fine. Yeah, it's only the wired one, and it's not software-fixable. There are some non-gamer problems as well, such as an issue typing words that contain "ine". The problem was complicated, however, because Logitech's customer service boggled things, vacillating between ignoring the issue and blaming the customer, with CSRs saying things like "Well, it's not a gamer keyboard. You should have bought a gamer keyboard then." Yep. Possibly due to the oncoming wave of gamer nerd rage, they quietly started offering swaps to Illuminated owners. There wasn't anything official or a recall, but if you called them and sweet-talked a CSR, they'd send you a K800. I nearly bought a $35 Illuminated refurb just so I could call them and trade it for a K800.
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I think that's what keyboard nerds call NKRO for "n-key roll-over". Or was it some other issue separate from that?
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