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RangerScum
Apr 6, 2006

Just Relax.


Abnegatus posted:



Better, or should I abandon the shot?

Yep I think that one is fine. If you want it to look a bit happier you could warm the photo up a bit, but nice job.

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the hodag
Jan 14, 2007

Rawrzadoodle

Abnegatus posted:



Better, or should I abandon the shot?

I think this looks much better than the grungy one and you should definitely keep it!

OJ.SImpson
Jan 20, 2001



Another weekend, another engagement. Doing their wedding in July.

Edit: poo poo, table breaking.. any way to delete an attached image?

Only registered members can see post attachments!

OJ.SImpson fucked around with this message at Mar 8, 2012 around 03:02

psylent
Nov 29, 2000



Good light and a good looking bridal party make my job so easy some times:



The bride from the wedding I shot in Hawaii submitted the photos to StyleMePretty and it looks like it might end up being a "featured" wedding. Hell yeah!

Elite Taco
Feb 3, 2010


Psylent, you do great work, man.

Elite Taco
Feb 3, 2010


Shot my first wedding two weeks ago. Here's what I ended up with:

http://www.charlieroch.com/ryan-shannon-3-3-2012/

Sorry for the terrible scrolling layout, I'm bad at the internet. Feedback is welcome.

Anti_Social
Jan 1, 2007

My problem is you dancing all the time


OJ.SImpson posted:

Another weekend, another engagement. Doing their wedding in July.

Edit: poo poo, table breaking.. any way to delete an attached image?



I love that second shot!

And well done as always, psylent!

Gryi
Sep 30, 2004
"Rem Koolhaas is the Darth Vader of architecture."

Elite Taco posted:

Shot my first wedding two weeks ago. Here's what I ended up with:

http://www.charlieroch.com/ryan-shannon-3-3-2012/

Sorry for the terrible scrolling layout, I'm bad at the internet. Feedback is welcome.
beautiful. Doesn't look like your first wedding. That's good. Mine was atrocious now that I look back on it. :$

psylent
Nov 29, 2000



Elite Taco posted:

Shot my first wedding two weeks ago. Here's what I ended up with:

http://www.charlieroch.com/ryan-shannon-3-3-2012/

Sorry for the terrible scrolling layout, I'm bad at the internet. Feedback is welcome.
Well done, definitely better than my first wedding! A few of the reception shots/dancing photos seem overly bright, but other than you did a great job and I think your clients will be pretty happy

Elite Taco
Feb 3, 2010


Thanks, guys. I concluded it was a lot of work and promptly doubled my pricing.

Re: Brightness - I use a manual flash crosslight setup and I think some of the shots are right under the bulbs. I'll have to work out a better blend with ambient (when it's there).

Edit: Also, the dorkroom can claim a hell of a lot of credit for me working hard to learn how to not be terrible before inflicting my 'art' on someone's wedding. Thanks, internet peeps!

mysticp
Jul 15, 2004

BAM!

A couple of friends of mine had a really creative engagement shoot. Figured I would share, though I didn't shoot it

http://photopinkblog.com/?p=3405

gvibes
Jan 18, 2010

Leading us to the promised land (i.e., one tournament win in five years)

Elite Taco posted:

Shot my first wedding two weeks ago. Here's what I ended up with:

http://www.charlieroch.com/ryan-shannon-3-3-2012/

Sorry for the terrible scrolling layout, I'm bad at the internet. Feedback is welcome.
I am not good at photography, but those look pretty freaking awesome to me.

eXpired
Feb 11, 2004

Get in!

Wound up doing my own wedding shots. I'd posted in this thread about half of a year ago asking whether I'd be moronic to just buy my own DSLR (something I'd always wanted) instead of paying the $2 - $3k that the local pros wanted. Went with buying my own.

It was obscenely stressful worrying about whether the few amateurs that I had taking shots with my D5100, a D90, and an old Rebel would get what we wanted, and was convinced that I'd made the wrong choice. In the end, though, it wound up working out pretty awesomely. I can sift through each of them and find nitpicks, but the most important part of it is that the wife couldn't be happier. My brother, who was the one who let me talk him into having do it (he really wanted to), took most of the shots... he ended up buying his own D5100 afterwards, so I bought him the 40mm macro lens in appreciation for doing it.

I wouldn't recommend that most people do what I did, but it's possible to make it work.

Here's a couple of them (though I have a stack of about 500 exposures from it and I'm still post-processing a bunch of them). I fully realize that a pro could have gotten better, but for saving the money and getting into a hobby that I'm completely obsessed with, I'm happy with the results.


CostaRica_120126_1332 by justinlindh, on Flickr


CostaRica_120126_1348-Edit by justinlindh, on Flickr


CostaRica_120126_1395-Edit by justinlindh, on Flickr


CostaRica_120126_0971 by justinlindh, on Flickr


CostaRica_120126_1096-Edit by justinlindh, on Flickr


Family. by justinlindh, on Flickr

xenilk
Apr 17, 2004

ERRYDAY I BE SPLIT-TONING! Honestly, its the only skill I got other than shooting the back of women and calling it "Editorial".


Elite Taco posted:

Shot my first wedding two weeks ago. Here's what I ended up with:

http://www.charlieroch.com/ryan-shannon-3-3-2012/

Sorry for the terrible scrolling layout, I'm bad at the internet. Feedback is welcome.

Holy crap! You've outdone yourself, these are gorgeous!!!

Elite Taco
Feb 3, 2010


Thanks! It was enough work that I doubled prices. I booked another today! Looks like Operation Don't Be Terrible gets a second act.

CarrotFlowers
Dec 17, 2010

Blerg.

Elite Taco posted:

Thanks! It was enough work that I doubled prices. I booked another today! Looks like Operation Don't Be Terrible gets a second act.

I'm really picky about wedding photography, but I really like those. You did a great job - I'd hire you excited to see what you can get with more experience and confidence!

pootiebigwang
Jun 26, 2008


I have a friend that wants me to shoot a wedding in October and I'm not sure what to charge. This would be my first wedding and she already has someone shooting digital and she wants me there to shoot film. What is recommended for charging if I am not the primary photographer? Also what are recommendations for lens length? I'll be using a 35mm and a fixed lens tlr. The 35mm I'll be using (Nikon N90s) has a 50mm 1.8 and a Tamron 80-210mm 3.8 macro. Both of these lenses are all manual and kind of old though still take a great picture. Would I be fine with these? Am I shooting myself in the foot by not having auto focus? I never really used it on the lovely kit lens and prefer to just do everything manually. Film wise I was probably going to do a mix of Portra and Tri-X. Has anyone shot a wedding using film before? Was it as difficult as I feel this is going to be?

Any and all tips are welcome.

8th-samurai
Aug 28, 2005

My office is in front room of a run down 12 megapixel sensor but the rent suits me and the landlord doesn't ask many questions.

Dorkroom Short Fiction Champion 2012

If it's a friend and it's your first wedding just charge them for film and processing. Maybe a little bit on top if you are pretty confident in your ability. It's not worth charging friends/family full price unless you are absolutely sure you can deliver flawlessly.

Advisewise, play to the strengths of the medium. Shoot some no flash high speed B&W and use the Portra to get images that wouldn't work well on digital. Since there's going to be another photographer there make sure you are shooting what ever they aren't so you aren't duplicating coverage. Like get the crowd reaction while they are shooting the cake cutting, or shoot from the back of the isle when they are shooting the processional from the front of the church. Try to communicate with the other shooter and stay out of each others shots as much as you can.

8th-samurai fucked around with this message at Mar 24, 2012 around 08:37

the hodag
Jan 14, 2007

Rawrzadoodle

I had an engagement session yesterday. This is March in upstate NY


IMG_1176 by calydoran, on Flickr


IMG_0890 by calydoran, on Flickr

psylent
Nov 29, 2000



I did that thing. This isn't the final edit and I really wish I'd positioned these two in the middle of the drat road.



Best viewed GIANT

psylent fucked around with this message at Mar 26, 2012 around 10:08

pseudonordic
Aug 31, 2003

The Jack of All Trades

psylent posted:

I did that thing. This isn't the final edit and I really wish I'd positioned these two in the middle of the drat road.



Best viewed GIANT

I like it. What all did you have to do for this?

xenilk
Apr 17, 2004

ERRYDAY I BE SPLIT-TONING! Honestly, its the only skill I got other than shooting the back of women and calling it "Editorial".


psylent posted:

I did that thing. This isn't the final edit and I really wish I'd positioned these two in the middle of the drat road.



Best viewed GIANT

I think it looks better that way, they are closer to the barn/house taken like that.

the hodag
Jan 14, 2007

Rawrzadoodle

psylent posted:

I did that thing. This isn't the final edit and I really wish I'd positioned these two in the middle of the drat road.



Best viewed GIANT

Very nice!! How many frames is it?

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


IF I'M TALKING ABOUT ART, I'M PROBABLY WRONG, SO PLEASE REPORT ME SO I CAN BE PROBATED. AGAIN.

psylent posted:

I did that thing. This isn't the final edit and I really wish I'd positioned these two in the middle of the drat road.



Best viewed GIANT

That looks great. I've been experimenting with it too, I like these two a lot (each about 12-15 frames);


IMG_7970 by David Childers, on Flickr


IMG_7984 by David Childers, on Flickr




EDIT: Just realized I already posted these. Oh well, if anyone has any questions about stitching or anything I'd be happy to help.

Bottom Liner fucked around with this message at Mar 26, 2012 around 17:05

teamgod
Jun 4, 2007
In Sorte Diaboli


Bottom Liner I think those pictures are really, really great. To be honest I'd love to see how you did that from start to finish. Only if you're up for it of course! Is it sort of like the Brenizer method? I have yet to try it out myself!

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


IF I'M TALKING ABOUT ART, I'M PROBABLY WRONG, SO PLEASE REPORT ME SO I CAN BE PROBATED. AGAIN.

Thanks teamgod, I'll post a walkthrough when I get home. It's the brenizer method, along with a few tricks I've worked out that make things easier/better.

psylent
Nov 29, 2000



pseudonordic posted:

I like it. What all did you have to do for this?
http://www.ryanbrenizer.com/category/brenizer-method/


Calee21 posted:

Very nice!! How many frames is it?
Thanks! Only about 20 or so

Crazy Goat
Dec 26, 2006


psylent posted:

I did that thing. This isn't the final edit and I really wish I'd positioned these two in the middle of the drat road.



Best viewed GIANT

Nice shot - but I have to say that editing images into bizarre non-standard sizes will make your client's life a nightmare when they inevitably want to get them printed. Just a thought.

the hodag
Jan 14, 2007

Rawrzadoodle

psylent posted:

http://www.ryanbrenizer.com/category/brenizer-method/

Thanks! Only about 20 or so

Not bad! It's always crazy to see how many frames make up some of his photos.

Elite Taco
Feb 3, 2010


Shot another wedding. *Probably* didn't blow it:

Elite Taco fucked around with this message at Mar 27, 2012 around 01:17

Elite Taco
Feb 3, 2010


Ok. For folks interested in seeing wedding #2 - here's a few selected shots. I'm focused on finishing the delivery for wedding#1 so a new story page will be a couple weeks. Shot the get to know you session last Thursday and the wedding Saturday.





Florrie Post:






Bride was v close to her dad he passed away a few years ago


















On the whole, I did a much better job shooting this wedding and the overall quality coming out of the camera shows. These files are essentially unedited. I have a preset that runs on import into LR. I'd hoped to make some measurable improvements from one to the other and I think I did that. Also, these guys are super adorable. Few more shots in the flickr set.

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


IF I'M TALKING ABOUT ART, I'M PROBABLY WRONG, SO PLEASE REPORT ME SO I CAN BE PROBATED. AGAIN.

Sorry I took a while to post this, but here's a quick and dirty Brenizer method rundown. I took one today while at a senior session for this thread. This is a 13 file shot, but the idea is the same, the more files the more pronounced the effect.

For the shooting, I've learned to start with a shot that will have your couple where you want them in the final frame. Take 3 or 4 to make sure your focus is solid, then lock the focus to manual (exposure must be set to manual and unchanged as well) and work top left to bottom right. Having extras of the subject is very important, because sometimes the stitching bugs out and you have to mask in the correct limbs or focus problems.

Here's a shot showing everything I took for the photo (25 & 27-38).


1 by David Childers, on Flickr


I edit them in Lightroom (sync all settings to keep consistency). Take those into Photoshop and go to File>Automate>Photomerge. Use auto or perspective modes, they give me the best results (mostly perspective). Go have a drink because it takes a while with large files.


When you come back you'll see this


2 by David Childers, on Flickr

This is where you hope and pray it gets it 90% right. In this shot I had to mask in and out her pants until I got them sync'd correctly, as well as some focus spots around her that were weird, took about 15 minutes. If you're not strong with masking you will run into problems where it doesn't have arms/faces/trees lined up correctly.

And the final product, I always do a full crop to leave room for whatever I want to crop later from the image.


3 by David Childers, on Flickr


If you have any specific questions feel free to ask, I've been doing these a while now and feel pretty competent with them.

AtomicManiac
Dec 29, 2006

I've never been a one trick pony. I like to have a competency in everything. I've been to business school.

Anyone see this? It's been blowing up the twitter-sphere and pissing a lot of people off (especially some of the "Rockstar Photogs" like Zach Arias/Joey L). I skimmed it, seems like some decent advice mixed with a few eye-brow raising points that are taken a bit out of context. (In it he suggests to "Spray and Pray" and "If you forget how to work your camera, use P mode).

http://thephotosystem.com/

Elite Taco
Feb 3, 2010


It's mostly poo poo advice packaged in a way to take advantage of new and eager photographers.

Gary Fong had the most thoughtful response to it that I've seen so far.

the hodag
Jan 14, 2007

Rawrzadoodle

AtomicManiac posted:

Anyone see this? It's been blowing up the twitter-sphere and pissing a lot of people off (especially some of the "Rockstar Photogs" like Zach Arias/Joey L). I skimmed it, seems like some decent advice mixed with a few eye-brow raising points that are taken a bit out of context. (In it he suggests to "Spray and Pray" and "If you forget how to work your camera, use P mode).

http://thephotosystem.com/

It's just a big plug for showit and Pass Premiere

psylent
Nov 29, 2000



It's some of the dumbest poo poo I've seen in a while

William T. Hornaday
Nov 26, 2007

Don't tap on the fucking glass!
I swear to god I'll cut off your fucking fingers and feed them to the otters for enrichment.


Utter destruction.

AIIAZNSK8ER
Dec 8, 2008


Where is your 24-70?

How did someone justify spending so much effort in making something so useless?

CarrotFlowers
Dec 17, 2010

Blerg.

William T. Hornaday posted:

Utter destruction.



Holy poo poo, dude got TOLD. By the very person he name drops like in step 2. That's awesome.

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William T. Hornaday
Nov 26, 2007

Don't tap on the fucking glass!
I swear to god I'll cut off your fucking fingers and feed them to the otters for enrichment.


AIIAZNSK8ER posted:

How did someone justify spending so much effort in making something so useless?

http://vimeo.com/39239193

Dude's seriously a giant knob.

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