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Tatsujin posted:How good is monoprice's generic toner cartridges? They seem to have pretty amazing prices, but I am wondering if there's a major quality difference. It can be hit and miss and it depends on the brand. I get a lot of Samsung carts from them, and the price is about 1/3 of the branded carts. Sometimes they're overfilled and leaking toner everywhere, sometimes they start clicking or whining after a few hundred pages, or quit working altogether. The image quality tends to be more high-contrast, so you'll have a tougher time getting good shades of gray. Most of these problems come from the toners being cheaply refilled without replacing any of the internal parts, or just being cheap knockoffs. Overall, with the price 1/3 of normal, and a failure rate for me of about 1/3, I come out ahead. On the other hand I have to put up with the above problems. For Brother generics, the drums suck but the toner carts are OK. For Canon and HP the generics have been working fine, but I haven't used the same volume as the Samsungs. For the OP, if you're still looking for an alternative to Brother, check out the Samsung ML-2571N $149. They've been working pretty well for me here, and they eat PostScript over the network.
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Chimpsky X posted:I'm switching from an epson cx6600 ink scam to a laser printer. I'm looking at a Samsung ML-2510 and a Brother HL-2170w, but I'd also like to be able to scan without keeping my crappy epson around. Neither of those has a scanner. I'm not sure where you got the idea that they had a copy function. If you want to scan and print then you're looking for a multi-function device (also called all-in-one), not just a printer. I'm not familiar with Brother's models, but for Samsung the equivalent multi-function would be something from the SCX line. Maybe this SCX-4826FN. They're going to cost more than a regular old printer, and take up more space. The scanner should support color scans. You hook the device up to your computer with USB like any other printer, hit the Scan button and it activates the scanning wizard. The quality may not be as good as a standalone flatbed, but it works. I'd be reluctant to buy used since these things are so cheap in the first place. If you did and it worked at all then the likely problem would be an empty/damaged toner cartridge, or worn out/damaged drum. Brother tends to make a separate drum that lasts through multiple toner changes, at least on the models I've seen. Samsung tends to package the drum and toner in the same cartridge. So in that case Brother would cost more to get up and running. On the other hand, buying new will get you a starter toner cartridge that only lasts for about 1/3 the pages of a normal cartridge. Both brands are good, but Brother gets more mentions around here. Personally, I use almost all Samsung at work and my only experience with Brother is 2 models of standalone fax machines. Get genuine toner and drums and either brand should work well.
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Just FYI the Samsung ML-2510 is on sale at NewEgg for $50 with free shipping.
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Brother HL-2170W are on sale at Newegg for $99 with free shipping. There's a $10 off code EMCYPPY34 but you may need to sign-up for their newsletter to use it.
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Color laser aren't very good at photos. If you want to print photos there are a handful of printers specifically made for printing photos and only. My experience has only been with the Canon Pixma mini260, but I've also seen models from Kodak recommended. The Canon prints a lot of photos from a tiny, cheap cartridge, but only up to 4x6. Printing your own photos is only a good idea for very specific situations, like needing them NOW or printing them often enough but at a low volume that it doesn't make sense to go to a photo kiosk every other day. The rest of the time you should either be ordering prints online or going to those kiosks in Walgreens, Walmart, etc.
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I was using Samsung at work here but they discontinued the ML-2510/ML-2571N models, and I hate the look of the new ones. So we switch over to Brother HL-2150/HL-2170W and they are very, very nice. Better build-quality, very comparable consumable costs, and much nicer web interface on the networked models. The Brother HL-2170W is a good wired and wireless mono laser, but it isn't an "all-in-one". Any of the similar Brother multifunction laser printers should be good. I don't have any direct experience with them, but hopefully someone can recommend a model since I have some Samsung MFCs that I'd like to replace some day. Xenomorph posted:Inkjet printers are just horrible. Like you said, only specific situations would require you to use one. Yeah, I have one site where an inkjet is required, but it is definitely an exception. Staff take photos of people and need several copies of it right away. They used to use Polaroids but it was expensive and difficult to get now that the film is no longer sold. The Canon dedicated photo printer really impressed me based on my horrible experiences with other inkjets. It gets a lot of prints out of a tiny and cheap cartridge.
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Asomodai posted:I am also after a cheap Mono printer, that will be used very little, i am in the UK. Most of your requirements are unrealistic. Especially duplex for that price. The cheapest new Brother laser with duplex and network is $229. Your only option for those features and that price is going to be an old, used LaserJet which will take some time to find and probably some TLC to keep working, like roller kits and other maintenance kits. Dropping the duplex requirement would help the most. Then you could look at the Brother HL-2170W. Brother toner is cheaper than most brands, and the sensor trick works in your favor. Most toner carts have a counter and stop printing at a certain amount regardless of how much is left. With Brother carts you can run it until it really is empty.
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Hammerite posted:I think colour laser might be more than I want to pay, then, so I guess I just want a multifunction laser mono printer. (Such things do scan in full colour as standard, right? I can't imagine it being otherwise.) Do you mean duplex scanning or duplex printing? I can't recall seeing duplex scanning on anything cheap. Duplex printing can be anywhere from $50 to $100 or more depending on how expensive the non-duplex version already is. They scan in color. It's not going to be as good quality as a real scanner, but it works. If you're going to do more than occasional duplex scanning then you want a Fujitsu ScanSnap. Faxing costs extra too. Some people just assume it comes with any multifunction, hence the negative reviews by idiots on Newegg for the DCP models. Brother DCP-7040 No duplex printing, no networking and no fax. $190. Brother DCP-8080DN Duplex printing, networking, and no fax. $260. Brother MFC-7840W No duplex printing, wireless networking and fax. $260. Brother MFC-8480DN Duplex printing, networking, and faxing. $350.
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El Grillo posted:Sorry to necro this, but I'm on the way to Currys with my brother to find a photo printer for my dad's birthday. I'm sure I could probably have found something cheaper online but i don't really have any choice considering how late we are with this poo poo. Without knowing specific models the best you're going to get is anecdotes about the various brands. I've had good experience with Canon and heard good things about Kodak. I'd stay away from HP because they seem to be the best at making huge lovely drivers and expensive ink.
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I haven't need it yet myself, but I've read good things. I think it's US-based with native English speakers. Also, I seem to recall a goon posting a bit in the printer threads a while ago who worked in Brother's support department. Get genuine cartridges and drums and you shouldn't have any real problems. They're priced very reasonably compared to other brands genuine consumables. The drivers are also good quality compared to other brands.
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Space Gopher posted:Does anyone know how Samsung's ML-2851ND stacks up? It looks just about perfect for my needs - it's got a duplexer, can print over the network, and right now Newegg's offering it for a hundred bucks shipped. Consumables look a bit more expensive than Brother's stuff, but in cost-per-page terms I'd expect to come out roughly even with the duplexer cutting paper costs in half. Since I'm not going to be printing all that much (on the order of a few dozen to a couple hundred pages per month, tops), a low purchase price is attractive, too - a high initial price but low cost per page would take a long time to pay for itself. With budget lasers of any brand you get what you pay for. Basically, if it works then great but if it starts having any problems you'll end up tossing it instead of fixing it. Duplexing is not a feature I would have much confidence in at the low end of the price range. Overall I prefer Brother now over Samsung. I've worked with both Samsung ML-2510/2571N and Brother HL-2150/2170W. The Brother build quality is better, the drivers are better, and the network interface is better. Either one will be fine if you're a very light user. I do recommend sticking with genuine toner though, and Brother is usually cheaper there. Paper costs end up being a fairly small part of the total cost per page in my experience.
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Does anyone have experience with photo ID printers? I may need to get one for work soon and there a large number of brands and models I've never heard of before. I'd like to keep it under about $2000 and expect to print no more than about 5-10 cards per month.
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COCKMOUTH.GIF posted:How are the HP P2035 printers? Apparently this is what my boss wants to get to replace the aging HP 1022 printers we have. I've already been told "no" to the Brother & Samsung lines. Based on your previous thread I'd say forget it and just get what your boss wants. "Nobody ever got fired for buying [Microsoft/Intel/Cisco/HP]"
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Crazak P posted:Where do you guys read your printer reviews? I'm trying to find standard printers for my company. One printer for personal use, one for workgroup use, one for tabloid sized printing. I'll probably need to find a color one, and a large format graphics one some day as well. Honestly, right here in SH/SC are the best reviews I've seen. Standard reviews are never going to include all the details you want to know. In a pinch, I've looked at CNET reviews and they aren't terrible. The best way to pick a standard printer is to narrow it down to a few candidates and get one of each. There's just no substitute for using it yourself, and if you're going to be stuck with a bunch of them for a few years then it's definitely worth it.
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bimmian posted:Anyone have a recommendation for a small, travel printer? I've been tasked with making "travel kits" for a group of salesmen, and they want small printers to go along with their netbooks and cell cards. Haven't had much luck with them in the past, but I haven't looked in awhile. I looked into doing this about 2 years ago and there was very little to choose from, with hardly any reviews. I think there were 2 models from Canon and that's all I could find. I ended up setting up a fax printer so the users could print to whatever fax machine was nearby.
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Nonsense posted:Apparently Samsung is selling the ML-1665 laser printer for 49.99 and free shipping. I haven't used that model, but I have a lot of ML-2510s and Brother HL-2140s. I think you're better off spending a little more for the Brother. You get better build quality and cheaper consumables. The HL-2140 is about $75 at NewEgg right now, and the wireless version is only a little more than that.
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Landerig posted:Oooooh. So very very tempting, but $350, that's a hefty chunk of change, especially for something that would not get used much. I'd say my budget is, oh $150 tops, and it'd have to be a drat good printer for me to spend that. You pay a little more up-front, or you pay a lot more in the long run both in money for new ink cartridges and time and frustration having to deal with a lovely inkjet printer. If you want a reliable multifunction laser printer then you'll have to pay for it. The reason inkjet printers are so cheap is because they sell them below cost and expect to more than make it up in overpriced ink cartridges. This is starting to happen with laser printers now too, especially low-end color lasers, but Brother is still making good equipment with reasonable consumable prices.
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theangryamoeba posted:So I'm looking for a wireless laser printer for around $80-100 after rebates. I was thinking of getting a Brother 2270dw, since it appears to be the current version of the 2170. Has anyone used it? Is it of similar quality, or should I get a referb? I really hope the 2170 isn't discontinued. It's been "out of stock" on NewEgg for a while now. I don't want to support yet another model with yet another toner cartridge type. 
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theangryamoeba posted:Brother is really good about using the same consumables. The 2040/2070 took the tn330/350 cartrage, as did the 2140/2170 and now the 2240/2270. Are you sure about that? This is what I'm seeing on the Brother site: 2040/2070 - TN350 2140/2170 - TN330 or TN360 2240/2270 - TN420 or TN450 5340/5370 - TN620 or TN650
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Drevoak posted:Are there any brands or models of printers that are not a pain in the rear end? My current one is an epson with plenty of software and extra crap that I do not need. I miss the old days when printers would keep attempting to print when there was no ink. I'm just looking for one that doesn't have absurd amount of software, cheap refills and wifi would be a plus. I would like to keep the price under 100. Almost all printers will stop printing when they think they are out of ink or toner now. Some of them have tricks to keep it going, others don't. I'd recommend the Brother HL-2170W, which sometimes goes on sale for near $100. If you want it cheaper without wifi you can go with the Brother HL-2140. Brother's consumable costs are very reasonable compared to other brands.
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Sometimes you can take the rollers off and turn them inside out to get a bit more life out of them. One thing to note on Brother printers is that the toner and drum are separate parts. The printer will want you to replace the drum after about 10k pages, but you can look up the reset procedure online and just reset it instead of replacing it. When the print quality starts to suffer then you can replace it.
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Thanks for the review. I was afraid the 2170W was discontinued since Newegg still shows it out of stock. Too bad the 2270DW uses a different toner cartridge. It looks like the HL-2240D is replacing the HL-2140 as well.
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Kobayashi posted:So this is the goonsensus printer now? I've been out of the printer market for years and years, so I know nothing. All I know is that my mother needs a black and white printer for her new Macbook Air. It took a week, but I finally talked her into the 2170W over some random Wal-Mart printer, but now that she's ready to buy, she can't find it anywhere in stock. The 2270 looks like an upgrade for a lower cost, so if that's what's up, then great! It is, with the caveat that it's a new model and hasn't seen as much use as the old models. It could have some horrible design flaw, but with Brother history it's a little less likely. The catch is the same as inkjet printers a few years ago. Make a lower quality piece of hardware, ship it with a half-empty cartridge, and hope to make a profit on selling consumables.
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DrBouvenstein posted:Amazon currently has it for straight up $80 (with free shipping, either SUper Saver or 2-day if you're a member of Prime.) Thanks for the heads up. Same deal at NewEgg (limit 2).
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kimcicle posted:I don't know if I missed it, but I'm in the market for a new printer. It must do the following things: Brother MFC-7840W $269. Haven't used it myself, but it's Brother.
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fatman1683 posted:Anyone have any experiences with aftermarket ink and/or toner? My experience is that you get more pages with less hassle and better quality from OEM cartridges. How much is your time worth? If you spend more than hour messing with a generic cartridge throughout it's entire lifetime then it's not worth it.
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Woozy posted:Our ideal printer would be: Get quotes from your local IT companies about leasing an appropriate printer. You should be able to get a deal where you pay a certain cost per page and they provide "free" toner and other consumables, and same-day service calls. This is a hell of a lot better than dealing with all that crap yourself, and most likely cheaper too since you can do other things with your time. If your boss insists on buying something, Color Brother laser printers start at $299. You're going to be printing a lot, so the only real cost that matters is per page consumables. More expensive printers usually have lower cost per page. Printing color on half a page is a lot more toner than they use to come up with the X thousand pages/cartridge too.
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Nam Taf posted:I think I'm after the non-existent printer. You don't mention your budget, but since that Samsung is $300 on Newegg, I'll assume that's what your working with. Color laser, duplex and scanning is unrealistic at that price. If there's anything available at all I wouldn't expect it to be reliable, and to be very expensive to operate. Even just color laser and duplex is a stretch at $300. Brother has a few options from $500-700: MFC-9460CDN, DCP-9045CDN, and MFC-9840CDW. The Fujitsu ScanSnaps are good, but the cheapest one with ADF (S1300) is $250. I have a handful of S1500s that see moderately heavy use and they perform very reliably. Keep in mind though that they aren't going to give as good quality scans as a flat bed would. That's the trade-off for scanning a stack of pages quickly and reliably.
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Drink and Fight posted:I need a printer for my home office. I don't think anyone is going to recommend an inkjet, and you aren't going to get all those features in a laser for that price.
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Tedronai66 posted:I would like to do some light photo printing as well as b&w printing, hence an inkjet. Go to any number of retail locations that offer photo printing kiosks. You're going to get better quality at a lower price. Inkjets are a bad choice unless you need to print photos right away on a regular basis.
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Tedronai66 posted:How is the Samsung ML-2525? It's on sale at newegg for 52 (with shipping). I've been pondering the Brother MFC7480W so I could have a scanner, but drat that is cheap. It'll probably work fine if you're just using it very lightly. I haven't used the 2525, but we have a lot of 2510 and 2571Ns here, as well as the equivalent Brother models. Overall the build quality is better on the Brothers and we've had less "weird" issues with them. The amount you save is going to be very small once you start buying toner cartridges at $50 each. If you aren't in a hurry, keep watching for sales. Brother stuff regularly goes on sale at Amazon, Newegg and other places.
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Tedronai66 posted:Yeah I looked more into toners and they're 50-70 a pop. The 7480 is a sale price at Costco, and adds the bonus of having a scanner, which I think I'd still like to have. Is 180 a good price for the 7480W, or have better prices been seen? I think that's the typical sale price for that model. Most other places are showing $250+.
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Liongate posted:gently caress the multifunction madness and suggest me a good printer, I scan and copy my poo poo elsewhere. Here are your choice from Brother. Duplex costs more, and wireless costs more, and both together costs even more.
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Ebjan posted:I need a printer/scanner/fax that prints great clear photos. I don't care if it can print wireless or prints slowly. My business requires that I print photos sometimes so the quality of the photos is most important. Multifunction and printing great photos don't really go together in a single device. For $1200 you should be able to get a nice mono multifunction laser and a nice inkjet for photos, probably something in the Canon Pixma line, and have plenty left over to blow on ink cartridges. But unless you really need to print color photos on demand, you'd be a lot better of taking them to a nearby photo printing kiosk.
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Gabriel Pope posted:I'm currently looking at getting a Brother MFC-9210 for the office. We need 1) fast, reliable bulk scanning/copying and 2) occasional color printing; would a lower-end multifunction be able to get through stacks of copies in a reasonably time, or would it be better to get a good mono laser to scan/copy and a separate dedicated color printer? It really depends on how much you're scanning, both overall and pages per document. That model has a 35 page tray for scanning. The document scanners we use are Fujitsu Scansnap S1500s at about $400 each with a 50 page tray, and I wouldn't go any cheaper for the amount of scanning we do. I don't think that MFC would be as fast or reliable as a Scansnap, but if you aren't doing as much scanning then it might work out. Even though Brother makes good stuff, I think this is a case where an MFC just isn't as good as dedicated devices.
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Brother HL-2270DW is on sale at Newegg for $79 through 8/1.
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Sperg Victorious posted:Does anyone have any experience with refurbished printer toner? Can I expect the same life cycle, quality, ect as I would get with an OEM? I tried to use refurbs for a while at work. There were just too many problems, and the time I spent dealing with them wasn't worth what we saved. I got them from Monoprice, but I've seen the same negative feedback on Rosewill stuff too. There are some places that claim to do a better job refilling them, checking parts for wear and tear, and replacing them as needed, but they also cost more. You're better off getting a new printer with a lower cost per page like the Brother stuff. The one exception to this is refilling color laser toner yourself. I've gotten the kits from Toner Eagle through Amazon for the Samsung 660 and they work fine. You do have to keep track of how many times you refill each one, and be sure to empty the waster toner compartment every few times. It's a little messy too, but much cheaper.
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Robolizard! posted:the brother printer everyone likes is on sale at newegg today ($80). I ordered it and was going to get the drum cartridge, but it appeared to have very poor reviews (though only two on amazon and two on newegg). Has anyone had success with it? Over 4 times the capacity for less than twice the price of the 2600 page toner seemed like a very, very good deal. Thanks for the heads-up. I haven't done a drum replacement on these newer models, but there's usually some procedure like holding down a button while the door is open or while turning the printer on. You can keep resetting the drum counter and reusing the original drum like this until the print quality degrades. Most home users aren't going to make it that far since they're usually good for 10k+ pages.
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