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40-Degree Day
Sep 24, 2012


I'm looking for a good co-op game for me and my wife to play together. The only two catches are that it has to be on PC, and it needs to be able to run on a laptop with an i3 and integrated graphics.

Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated.

EDIT: Just to verify, my wife plays a lot of video games.

40-Degree Day fucked around with this message at 19:03 on Nov 17, 2012

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OperaMouse
Oct 30, 2010

I'm looking for a (strategy) game where you can play as an organic/bioweapon species like the Zerg or Tyranids. (so not Starcraft or Dawn of War).

Ideally it should have really different game mechanics like the Creep, and not just a basic "+1 growth, no happiness required" type of modifier.

I prefer 4X, but all genres are fine.

Lunchmeat Larry
Nov 3, 2012

40-Degree Day posted:

I'm looking for a good co-op game for me and my wife to play together. The only two catches are that it has to be on PC, and it needs to be able to run on a laptop with an i3 and integrated graphics.

Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated.

Trine 2 is fantastic for this, played it through with my girlfriend not long ago; she's not a huge gamer, but it's a pretty easy, absorbing, nicely-paced game that encourages real teamwork and cooperation. It should run on your setup.


blowingupcasinos posted:

Are there any fantasy/medieval games where magic is actually a rare thing and trekking through dangerous expanses is actually dangerous and rewarding? I've been reading a lot of Conan the Barbarian, and I'm itching for some sword and sorcery leaning more heavily on the sword side.

What I really mean is why aren't there more games like Dark/Demons Souls?
Severance: Blade of Darkness. It's maybe more linear and mission-based than you're looking for, but I've played few games that capture that raw, Conanesque sword-and-sorcery vibe quite as well. It helps that it has some of the best and most challenging melee combat ever.

Waroduce
Aug 5, 2008
I'm looking for an online multiplayer dungeon crawler. Something akin to WoW's instances but not WoW. The best would be a Baldur's Gate or NWN type of game. An incentive to roleplay would be coool too :)

edit: Doesn't have to be turn based. Isometric camera is or not is no big thing. I just want to explore dungeons/areas with a party and get phat loot.

Maybe I should just go over to Traditional Games and see if they'll take someone who's forgotten how to play D&D.:(

Waroduce fucked around with this message at 18:51 on Nov 17, 2012

Pyromancer
Apr 29, 2011

This man must look upon the fire, smell of it, warm his hands by it, stare into its heart

OperaMouse posted:

I'm looking for a (strategy) game where you can play as an organic/bioweapon species like the Zerg or Tyranids. (so not Starcraft or Dawn of War).

Ideally it should have really different game mechanics like the Creep, and not just a basic "+1 growth, no happiness required" type of modifier.

I prefer 4X, but all genres are fine.

Morphidian Aliens in Earth 2160 are organic and their units clone themselves or morph into other units or buildings.

Legends of Pegasus is 4X with a race using organic fish-like spaceships but it's terribly bugged and shouldn't be played by anyone valuing his nerve cells.

thexerox123
Aug 17, 2007

Waroduce posted:

I'm looking for an online multiplayer dungeon crawler. Something akin to WoW's instances but not WoW. The best would be a Baldur's Gate or NWN type of game. An incentive to roleplay would be coool too :)

edit: Doesn't have to be turn based. Isometric camera is or not is no big thing. I just want to explore dungeons/areas with a party and get phat loot.

Maybe I should just go over to Traditional Games and see if they'll take someone who's forgotten how to play D&D.:(

I'm going to chime in with a really obvious one again, especially since you mention WoW specifically, but what about Diablo 3? It's all dungeon crawling and phat loot!

Waroduce
Aug 5, 2008

thexerox123 posted:

I'm going to chime in with a really obvious one again, especially since you mention WoW specifically, but what about Diablo 3? It's all dungeon crawling and phat loot!

True, and that is a valid reccomendation, but I've already played Diablo3 out. I just forgot to mention it. Thank you though.

I played EQ back in the day and found that fun too if it helps.

Ashenai
Oct 5, 2005

You taught me language;
and my profit on't
Is, I know how to curse.

Waroduce posted:

I'm looking for an online multiplayer dungeon crawler. Something akin to WoW's instances but not WoW. The best would be a Baldur's Gate or NWN type of game. An incentive to roleplay would be coool too :)

edit: Doesn't have to be turn based. Isometric camera is or not is no big thing. I just want to explore dungeons/areas with a party and get phat loot.

Maybe I should just go over to Traditional Games and see if they'll take someone who's forgotten how to play D&D.:(

Almost too obvious, but what about D&D Online? Seems like pretty much exactly what you want.

AfricanBootyShine
Jan 9, 2006

Snake wins.

40-Degree Day posted:

I'm looking for a good co-op game for me and my wife to play together. The only two catches are that it has to be on PC, and it needs to be able to run on a laptop with an i3 and integrated graphics.

Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated.

EDIT: Just to verify, my wife plays a lot of video games.

Terraria is your best bet. Torchlight II also runs decently on low-spec machines and has a demo available on Steam.

Also:
http://www.co-optimus.com/system/4/pc.html

AfricanBootyShine fucked around with this message at 21:41 on Nov 17, 2012

Waroduce
Aug 5, 2008

Ashenai posted:

Almost too obvious, but what about D&D Online? Seems like pretty much exactly what you want.
That's a pretty solid idea. I've been meaning to check it out since I heard it went F2P. I guess its just a matter of it actually being F2P, or if you're still required to buy stuff in order to be competitive/access higher level stuff.

Ashenai
Oct 5, 2005

You taught me language;
and my profit on't
Is, I know how to curse.

Waroduce posted:

That's a pretty solid idea. I've been meaning to check it out since I heard it went F2P. I guess its just a matter of it actually being F2P, or if you're still required to buy stuff in order to be competitive/access higher level stuff.

You do absolutely have to buy stuff if you want access to everything. I mean, there is a lot of free content: you can play it without spending a dime and you will have fun, but there are paywalls for a lot of things. Technically you can earn TPs (the currency for unlocking stuff) in-game, but getting enough for everything is a horrible grind and I do not recommend it.

Ashenai fucked around with this message at 23:12 on Nov 17, 2012

Blast of Confetti
Apr 21, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Are there any decent games with wizards in them? I'm not talking about the Harry Potter series or something like Skyrim. I'd like something that's honest to god about some guy in a dress with a beard down to the floor setting things on fire by mumbling incoherently.

Noni
Jul 8, 2003
ASK ME ABOUT DEFRAUDING GOONS WITH HOT DOGS AND HOW I BANNED EPIC HAMCAT

Blast of Confetti posted:

Are there any decent games with wizards in them? I'm not talking about the Harry Potter series or something like Skyrim. I'd like something that's honest to god about some guy in a dress with a beard down to the floor setting things on fire by mumbling incoherently.

Trine has a bona-fide, bearded, pointy-hat and robe-wearing wizard. The dude can wiz boxes like nobody's business.

But Diablo 3's wizard, although not stereotypical in appearance, is almost certainly a more famous wizard. Entire songs have been written about him. He is a wielder of arcane magics and can cast not only spectral blade, but improved spectral blade.

DOUBLE CLICK HERE
Feb 5, 2005
WA3
Magicka has some pretty wizardy wizards as well.

Nordick
Sep 3, 2011

Yes.

Waroduce posted:

I'm looking for an online multiplayer dungeon crawler. Something akin to WoW's instances but not WoW. The best would be a Baldur's Gate or NWN type of game. An incentive to roleplay would be coool too :)
I'm not sure what kind of online experience you're after, but since you mention Bladur's Gate and NWN: Have you tried Icewind Dale 2? It's very much like Baldur's Gate, except with a fully player-created party and a lot more straightforward and linear, and it uses 3rd edition D&D rules instead of ADD. It's really fun with friends, like with three players all controlling 2 characters or why not six guys with a character each.


Blast of Confetti posted:

Are there any decent games with wizards in them? I'm not talking about the Harry Potter series or something like Skyrim. I'd like something that's honest to god about some guy in a dress with a beard down to the floor setting things on fire by mumbling incoherently.
Magicka!
It's all about killing tons of enemies with raw magic, preferably co-op with friends. The spell system's really neat, you have a few different elements with a button for each, and you create spells by combining the elements together. Like, just fire makes for a flamethrower kinda spell, flame + arcane makes a fire beam, flame + water + lightning + arcane makes a crazy-rear end electrified steam beam, etc. The jist is that the game is hectic as gently caress and there's no protection from friendly fire, so you WILL mess up your spells and blow up your buddies instead of healing them or create healing landmines for the enemies to step on or put up a reflective shield that ends up reflecting your own murderbeam back at your face. It's abso-loving-lutely hilarious. Check out this series of the Yogscast guys and TotalBiscuit playing the game together and laugh your rear end off.
EDIT: gently caress, kinda beaten. But at least I put some effort into my post. :v:

of bees
Dec 28, 2009
I just got a 3DS, and I'm looking for some games to get for it. The most important thing is that I need a game I can pause at any time without it affecting gameplay (my job involves being available to suddenly do things at a moment's notice, but there are long stretches of inactivity so I can bring stuff to do so long as it doesn't distract me from work), and I do strategy games and 'building' games. For example, I play the gently caress out of Minecraft, and any games with a "rebuild the city" or "design your own home" theme even as a side quest would be good for me.

DS games are okay to suggest too, but I might already have it because I have a shitload of DS games.

Turtlicious
Sep 17, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
I am looking for a pc game like DND, in that I have full control (in game) to do DM things, but multiplayer, meaning that I could start a game, have random people join, create characters, and run them through my campaign. I could talk as NPC's, and the only things I had to do before hand was find the maps... Sometimes. Does anyone know the game I'm talking about?

(I know about Neverwinter Nights, but I was looking for something more active/simple. Something I could convince my friends to buy (so cheap)

Chinook
Apr 11, 2006

SHODAI

Turtlicious posted:

I am looking for a pc game like DND, in that I have full control (in game) to do DM things, but multiplayer, meaning that I could start a game, have random people join, create characters, and run them through my campaign. I could talk as NPC's, and the only things I had to do before hand was find the maps... Sometimes. Does anyone know the game I'm talking about?

(I know about Neverwinter Nights, but I was looking for something more active/simple. Something I could convince my friends to buy (so cheap)

Take a look at this:
http://roll20.net/

I know there's something else LIKE it, too, but I can't recall the name.

Geektox
Aug 1, 2012

Good people don't rip other people's arms off.
Are there any cooperative (or at least not competitive) multiplayer tycoon games? Or a micromanagement game in the vein of Dwarf Fortress would be great as well.

Fergus Mac Roich
Nov 5, 2008

Soiled Meat

Geektox posted:

Are there any cooperative (or at least not competitive) multiplayer tycoon games? Or a micromanagement game in the vein of Dwarf Fortress would be great as well.

OpenTTD.

http://www.openttd.org/en/

Camping.. Intense!
May 18, 2005

Absolutely
Grimey Drawer
So recently i got a treadmill and found that i can actually jog pretty well and also play Culdcept on PS2 (Which is an awesome under-rated game by the way) So i wondered if Goons can recommend anything similar for PS2 or X360?

It just needs to be something that I have to think about but doesnt require much input, I only really have to press buttons every now and then and choose direction with Culdcept. Anything board-game/cardlike/puzzly would probably do the trick?

Turtlicious
Sep 17, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Chinook posted:

Take a look at this:
http://roll20.net/

I know there's something else LIKE it, too, but I can't recall the name.

I already use Roll20, and I'm thinking of an actual program/game. I'm thinking about something vaguely real time, with like hit boxes. Have you ever played NWN multiplayer? Or Icewind Daggerdale? Or Baldur's Gate? I'm looking for something like that but you could use the mod tool real time, in game.

FanaticalMilk
Mar 11, 2011


Camping.. Intense! posted:

So recently i got a treadmill and found that i can actually jog pretty well and also play Culdcept on PS2 (Which is an awesome under-rated game by the way) So i wondered if Goons can recommend anything similar for PS2 or X360?

It just needs to be something that I have to think about but doesnt require much input, I only really have to press buttons every now and then and choose direction with Culdcept. Anything board-game/cardlike/puzzly would probably do the trick?

You probably already know about this but there is a Culdcept game for the 360 called Culdcept Saga.

Genpei Turtle
Jul 20, 2007

I'm looking for a good turn-based, hex-based war game. I just played through Panzer General II and liked it a lot, so something along those lines, but on a larger scale with more units and/or more in-depth gameplay. Also it's a bonus if I'm allowed to take a more ponderous approach to my strategy--the turn limit in PG2 made me feel like I always had to play very aggressively and rush to complete each scenario as fast as possible.

Don't care particularly about the time period or era the game takes place in--having some historical background to it would be a bonus but not necessary.

Fergus Mac Roich
Nov 5, 2008

Soiled Meat

Genpei Turtle posted:

I'm looking for a good turn-based, hex-based war game. I just played through Panzer General II and liked it a lot, so something along those lines, but on a larger scale with more units and/or more in-depth gameplay. Also it's a bonus if I'm allowed to take a more ponderous approach to my strategy--the turn limit in PG2 made me feel like I always had to play very aggressively and rush to complete each scenario as fast as possible.

Don't care particularly about the time period or era the game takes place in--having some historical background to it would be a bonus but not necessary.

It's still relatively small scale and has turn limits but I think you would love Unity of Command.

letgomyAgo
Aug 6, 2012
I've got a hankering for some old school dungeon crawling! I just tore through Legend of Grimrock and it has ignited a hunger in me. Anyone know any more good somewhat contemporary dungeon crawls?

I prefer not to have to gently caress about with DOSBOX if it all possible. Not looking for action oriented Diablo-like crawlers either.

Goon Danton
May 24, 2012

Don't forget to show my shitposts to the people. They're well worth seeing.

letgomyAgo posted:

I've got a hankering for some old school dungeon crawling! I just tore through Legend of Grimrock and it has ignited a hunger in me. Anyone know any more good somewhat contemporary dungeon crawls?

I prefer not to have to gently caress about with DOSBOX if it all possible. Not looking for action oriented Diablo-like crawlers either.

Dungeons of Dredmor is a pretty fun dungeon crawler. It's basically an accessible roguelike, with graphics and a UI and stuff. It also has a great art style and sense of humor.

Zoe
Jan 19, 2007
Hair Elf
I'm on my feet for ten hours at work and when I get home I'm pretty much wiped out. I like to play for an hour or so to unwind but I typically spend most of that time looking at one game after another and then being all :effort: because I'm just not in the mood for most of my library.

What I need is something nice and non-twitchy and non-demanding. I've tried various flash games and casual games and they're okay but I prefer something with a little sense of actual progress. I think what I need is a turn-based game that's easy to get into and easy to put down, preferably one that can be played just with the mouse for maximum laziness. Dungeons of Dredmor and Recettear have both been pretty serviceable for this in the past.

I did pretty well for Patrician 3 for awhile too, just sending my tiny ships back and forth across the sea buying low and selling high, so maybe some kind of business or trading sim, if it's not ridiculously complex.

thexerox123
Aug 17, 2007

I'm wondering if anybody can recommend an RPG for Wii or 360 that can satisfy a craving that's been gnawing at me for awhile! (Gamecube or Mac would also be fine.)

RPGs I have loved:
Chrono Trigger
Secret of Evermore
Super Mario RPG
Paper Mario
Chrono Cross
Golden Sun

RPGs I own or have tried, but aren't quite what I'm looking for in this case:
Morrowind, Skyrim
Fallout 3
Blue Dragon
Star Ocean: The Last Hope
Final Fantasy Series
Fable 1-3
Mass Effect/KOTOR style action-RPGs
Borderlands

Basically, I like turn-based, a good number of memorable attacks and characters, and above all, with a good story. I don't want anything open-world like Elder Scrolls/Fallout/Borderlands, and I know that there are a lot of sword & magic/JRPGs out there, but I really don't want something just... generic.

The Breath of Fire series has never really interested me, but I might just be wrong about that. Also the Tales of and Phantasy Star series are ones that I haven't tried, but I'm not sure either of them are quite what I'm looking for.

Fergus Mac Roich
Nov 5, 2008

Soiled Meat
Xenoblade. It's probably more active than Evermore or Chrono Trigger but seriously you will like it.

thexerox123
Aug 17, 2007

Fergus Mac Roich posted:

Xenoblade. It's probably more active than Evermore or Chrono Trigger but seriously you will like it.

I was looking at Chronicles just a couple of weeks ago, it definitely looks good!

...I guess it's just a matter of finding a copy that isn't hideously expensive. :\

Fergus Mac Roich
Nov 5, 2008

Soiled Meat
Unfortunately it was only ever released in the US by a huge community effort(look up Operation Rainfall) so it was distributed in a very limited way by Nintendo and Gamestop. It's out there, though, and it's like 140 hours long so it's not like you'll get ripped off if you pay a bit over the MSRP. I'm not that far into it(8-9 hours) but I like it and I normally hate JRPGs, and it has had some loooong threads on this forum full of people heaping praise on it.

Nighteyedie
May 30, 2011

thexerox123 posted:

I'm wondering if anybody can recommend an RPG for Wii or 360 that can satisfy a craving that's been gnawing at me for awhile! (Gamecube or Mac would also be fine.)

RPGs I have loved:
Chrono Trigger
Secret of Evermore
Super Mario RPG
Paper Mario
Chrono Cross
Golden Sun

RPGs I own or have tried, but aren't quite what I'm looking for in this case:
Morrowind, Skyrim
Fallout 3
Blue Dragon
Star Ocean: The Last Hope
Final Fantasy Series
Fable 1-3
Mass Effect/KOTOR style action-RPGs
Borderlands

Basically, I like turn-based, a good number of memorable attacks and characters, and above all, with a good story. I don't want anything open-world like Elder Scrolls/Fallout/Borderlands, and I know that there are a lot of sword & magic/JRPGs out there, but I really don't want something just... generic.

The Breath of Fire series has never really interested me, but I might just be wrong about that. Also the Tales of and Phantasy Star series are ones that I haven't tried, but I'm not sure either of them are quite what I'm looking for.

Lost Odyessey on the 360 is a pretty traditional story focused JRPG. Tales games are also worth a try, they are more action oriented, and the stories are pretty generic, but it isn't overly serious and the character interactions are pretty funny.

Cliff
Nov 12, 2008

thexerox123 posted:

I'm wondering if anybody can recommend an RPG for Wii or 360 that can satisfy a craving that's been gnawing at me for awhile! (Gamecube or Mac would also be fine.)

I would recommend Tales of Symphonia (GC) or Tales of Vesperia (360), but they are not turn-based. They fit every other criteria on your list. Vesperia is the better game.

e. I would not recommend Tales of Symphonia 2 (Wii).

V for Vegas
Sep 1, 2004

THUNDERDOME LOSER

Zoe posted:

I'm on my feet for ten hours at work and when I get home I'm pretty much wiped out. I like to play for an hour or so to unwind but I typically spend most of that time looking at one game after another and then being all :effort: because I'm just not in the mood for most of my library.

What I need is something nice and non-twitchy and non-demanding. I've tried various flash games and casual games and they're okay but I prefer something with a little sense of actual progress. I think what I need is a turn-based game that's easy to get into and easy to put down, preferably one that can be played just with the mouse for maximum laziness. Dungeons of Dredmor and Recettear have both been pretty serviceable for this in the past.

I did pretty well for Patrician 3 for awhile too, just sending my tiny ships back and forth across the sea buying low and selling high, so maybe some kind of business or trading sim, if it's not ridiculously complex.

Civ V can be 100% mouse. Start on a large map with only a few other Civs and it's a low intensity exercise.

My favourite de-stress game though after a long day is Minecraft + a podcast. The part of my brain that manipulates 3D objects in Minecraft is completely different to the part of my brain that listens to conversations. Having the two going together is quite relaxing.

furry drum circle
Aug 7, 2007

Dear... God...
I'm looking for fairly customizable games where you get opportunities to think out your strategies, execute them, and get explicitly rewarded for doing well or punished for loving up, maybe with a hint of exploration/randomization/dungeon crawl. That probably sounds horribly generic so here are some games from different genres I like and why:

Fire Emblem Path Of Radiance - I like being able to use a variety of the crapload of dumpster characters and still avoid permadeath in the tougher missions. Most other SRPG's I've played are either too easy to break or seem to force you to use overpowered characters.

Armored Core series - Tons of items and numbers to pore over, I love building AC's specific to missions to minimize repair and ammunition costs.

Diablo and Dark Cloud series - Pretty much built around loot with just the right amount of random (for example, Binding of Isaac felt too random), and I like the combat in each.

Vagrant Story - The weapon customization system was really confusing but rewarding to learn and utilize. Good exploration/puzzle incorporation.

Mechcommander - REALLY distinct risk/reward dynamic in just about every mission. I really liked the challenge of beating missions with minimal damage or trying to salvage/capture as many enemy mechs as possible.

Raneman
Dec 24, 2010

by T. Finninho

40-Degree Day posted:

I'm looking for a good co-op game for me and my wife to play together. The only two catches are that it has to be on PC, and it needs to be able to run on a laptop with an i3 and integrated graphics.

Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated.

EDIT: Just to verify, my wife plays a lot of video games.

Serious Sam HD and Serious Sam 3 are both insanely fun co-op games, and have settings so you can play through with any variables you like. I can't recommend them enough, they're my go-to game when co-oping with people.

OperaMouse posted:

I'm looking for a (strategy) game where you can play as an organic/bioweapon species like the Zerg or Tyranids. (so not Starcraft or Dawn of War).

Ideally it should have really different game mechanics like the Creep, and not just a basic "+1 growth, no happiness required" type of modifier.

I prefer 4X, but all genres are fine.

Natural Selection 2 is an RTS/FPS hybrid that I strongly recommend.





Okay, my turn. I used to play a lot of Trouble in Terrorist Town. It was a unique experience in psychology and deception in multiplayer that I find has been unmatched by anything since. It combined deception, twitch skills, cunning, and lots and lots of logic.

Raneman fucked around with this message at 03:40 on Nov 20, 2012

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

"Hi Everybody!"

thexerox123 posted:

I'm wondering if anybody can recommend an RPG for Wii or 360 that can satisfy a craving that's been gnawing at me for awhile! (Gamecube or Mac would also be fine.)

RPGs I have loved:
Chrono Trigger
Secret of Evermore
Super Mario RPG
Paper Mario
Chrono Cross
Golden Sun

RPGs I own or have tried, but aren't quite what I'm looking for in this case:
Morrowind, Skyrim
Fallout 3
Blue Dragon
Star Ocean: The Last Hope
Final Fantasy Series
Fable 1-3
Mass Effect/KOTOR style action-RPGs
Borderlands

Basically, I like turn-based, a good number of memorable attacks and characters, and above all, with a good story. I don't want anything open-world like Elder Scrolls/Fallout/Borderlands, and I know that there are a lot of sword & magic/JRPGs out there, but I really don't want something just... generic.

The Breath of Fire series has never really interested me, but I might just be wrong about that. Also the Tales of and Phantasy Star series are ones that I haven't tried, but I'm not sure either of them are quite what I'm looking for.

The Last Story is a great action RPG on the Wii. It's by the original creator of Final Fantasy, and it's basically the Final Fantasy that never was, story-wise.

On the gamecube, give Skies of Arcadia Legends or even Lost Kingdoms 2 a try, both are pretty decent JRPG's.

If you want to try the Breath of Fire games, BoF4 is the best in the series, but it's on the PS1. Breath of Fire 2's pretty drat good despite an awful translation.


edit:VVVVVVV

If you're going in SMT games, start with Persona 4, it's moderately fair and a really good game. Nocturne (aka Lucifer's Call if you're in the EU/AU) and Digital Devil Saga are good too, but they are punishing if you try to play through without knowing how to abuse the Press-Turn system with elemental weaknesses.

Neddy Seagoon fucked around with this message at 04:40 on Nov 20, 2012

Nighteyedie
May 30, 2011

furry drum circle posted:

I'm looking for fairly customizable games where you get opportunities to think out your strategies, execute them, and get explicitly rewarded for doing well or punished for loving up, maybe with a hint of exploration/randomization/dungeon crawl. That probably sounds horribly generic so here are some games from different genres I like and why:

Fire Emblem Path Of Radiance - I like being able to use a variety of the crapload of dumpster characters and still avoid permadeath in the tougher missions. Most other SRPG's I've played are either too easy to break or seem to force you to use overpowered characters.

Armored Core series - Tons of items and numbers to pore over, I love building AC's specific to missions to minimize repair and ammunition costs.

Diablo and Dark Cloud series - Pretty much built around loot with just the right amount of random (for example, Binding of Isaac felt too random), and I like the combat in each.

Vagrant Story - The weapon customization system was really confusing but rewarding to learn and utilize. Good exploration/puzzle incorporation.

Mechcommander - REALLY distinct risk/reward dynamic in just about every mission. I really liked the challenge of beating missions with minimal damage or trying to salvage/capture as many enemy mechs as possible.

The Shin Megami Tensei series is good, it's kinda like Vagrant Story, except instead of weapons you make Demons that help you fight. The main line games are mostly dungeon crawlers. There is also the Devil Survivor spin offs which are SRPGS.

Baldur's Gate might have what you are looking for, some of the tougher fights can require some interesting strategies.

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furry drum circle
Aug 7, 2007

Dear... God...

Nighteyedie posted:

The Shin Megami Tensei series is good, it's kinda like Vagrant Story, except instead of weapons you make Demons that help you fight. The main line games are mostly dungeon crawlers. There is also the Devil Survivor spin offs which are SRPGS.

Baldur's Gate might have what you are looking for, some of the tougher fights can require some interesting strategies.

I always thought SMT were turn based jrpg which I'm not big on, but I hear so much about them I might check those out soon anyways.

I actually had Baldur's Gate II open on gog the other day, but didn't pull the trigger since the blurb/screenshots made it look kinda unremarkable. Could you sell me on it/IWD any more?

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