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Slumpy
Jun 10, 2008

Ostrava posted:

Have you checked out:
http://www.cityofgangsters.com/us/
http://store.steampowered.com/app/208520/

It's from the same folks that do tropico. It's definitely got management elements to it.

Hmmmm on futher inspection it may just be published by the same folks that did tropico. No idea on the creative team. Either way i've heard enough good stuff about it to recommend it for your description.

Played it, it's more of an RTS quick decision game and not so much running an empire.

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General Emergency
Apr 2, 2009

Can we talk?

Geektox posted:

I bought this a while ago and haven't played it so this is perfect!


I guess I'm looking for games with roguelike elements, but nothing horribly complex, and for me ToME and DCSS both cross the line slightly. I guess those two are considered pretty easy roguelikes, but something like Pixel Dungeons on Android is actually the perfect amount of complexity.

Dungeons of Dredmore might be up your alley.

Edit: Heh, beaten. Dredmore is a lot of fun and quite a bit simpler than DCSS. It still has depth but it's definitely easier to get into.

Jordan7hm
Feb 17, 2011




Lipstick Apathy
DCSS is very simple if you play berserker and just bash everything. I haven't played any of the more recent builds but dex based kobold zerker builds were really powerful, and you could ignore the food subgame that way.

Spellcasting HEBE was the best combo ever though.

Chinook
Apr 11, 2006

SHODAI

Jordan7hm posted:

DCSS is very simple if you play berserker and just bash everything.

I played a Minotaur Fighter as well as a Berserker, and yeah, they are both really nice classes for a simpleton like myself to use. I actually managed to ascend with MiFi! My only roguelike victory that really counts.

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

Turtlicious posted:

I need more Bulletstorm, but I have played / won all of the Bulletstorm

Somebody asked this a page or two ago; I give you the same answer: Farcry 3 or better yet Farcry 3: BLOOD DRAGON :krad:

Pipski posted:

I didn't like either of those, but ymmv. I would have liked them a lot more if they were actually first person perspective though. Making them third person seems like an inexplicable decision for that type of game.

I also wish sniper elite was first person, but it works well enough in third. They made the game focus on the wrong stuff though in my opinion, if you can stand it Sniper Elite 1 was more about just walking through a WW-2 city with a rifle sniping people. That's what it should be. For some reason in 2 and 3 they decided you should have to sneak through linear levels and use things like a pistol instead of just sniping nazis all the time :confused:

Either way though Sniper: Ghost Warrior is hot garbage, don't play that one.

Ciaphas posted:

Shockingly good, even before you count the fact that it was fifteen bucks. Probably the best value for money I've ever gotten for a video game outside of MMOs.

Seriously anybody in the thread who skipped this one, (and you probably should have, Call of Juarez otherwise sucks) you missed out. Gunslinger is good, old fashioned silly entertainment fun the way they don't make videogames anymore.

You literally replay the drunken bar story ramblings of some pretend gunslinger hero, complete with paradoxes and retcons, which take place right in front of you as you play the game. Its hilarious, its fun, and its actually a pretty decent shooting gallery type FPS.

Zaphod42 fucked around with this message at 21:31 on Aug 25, 2014

Chamale
Jul 11, 2010

I'm helping!



Here's a really weird request. Can anyone recommend a sports game (any sport) where player 1 can put the controller down immediately and the game will play to completion with no further input? Not with AI taking over for that player, but with player 1 standing around while the game goes on around him. It needs to be on a classic console - NES, SNES, N64, Gamecube, Genesis, PS1, GB, GBC, or GBA would work.

A few years back, I made this tool-assisted superplay of a soccer game, Nintendo World Cup. Basically I wrote a script that presses buttons for three seconds on the opening screen, which seeds the game's random number generator so that the player wins without pressing any buttons - player 1 stands around while the AI teammates score four goals. The TAS was rejected because it doesn't go past halftime - that would require user input. I haven't found any games that go through stoppages without input and also don't automatically make player 1 control whoever has the ball. I'd love it if someone could recommend a game where I could make a similarly short input sequence to actually play a match to completion.

Tagra
Apr 7, 2006

If you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you.


Geektox posted:

I guess I'm looking for games with roguelike elements, but nothing horribly complex, and for me ToME and DCSS both cross the line slightly. I guess those two are considered pretty easy roguelikes, but something like Pixel Dungeons on Android is actually the perfect amount of complexity.

Don't Starve might be worth a look too. There's a couple 3D (with pixels...) roguelike-ish games like Delver and Eldritch that could be interesting... I've bought them all and not really played much yet :v:

Ciaphas
Nov 20, 2005

> BEWARE, COWARD :ovr:


Zaphod42 posted:


Seriously anybody in the thread who skipped this one, (and you probably should have, Call of Juarez otherwise sucks) you missed out. Gunslinger is good, old fashioned silly entertainment fun the way they don't make videogames anymore.

You literally replay the drunken bar story ramblings of some pretend gunslinger hero, complete with paradoxes and retcons, which take place right in front of you as you play the game. Its hilarious, its fun, and its actually a pretty decent shooting gallery type FPS.

:clint: "And then a hundred goddamned Apaches came out of nowhere and started shooting at me!"
*cue Apaches with rifles appearing out of nowhere, a minute or so of gameplay ensues*
:confused: "Wait... what? What were Apaches doing there?"
:clint: "There weren't any Apaches. I was trying to see if you were paying attention, Steve. :mad:"
*apaches disappear in game*

God what a good game. And that's not the funniest bit of bullshit in. The bit on the train oh my god. :allears:


... know what, gonna play that again after I'm done with Dishonored. (ed: if only so I don't butcher the paraphrasing on that part again :cripes:)

Ciaphas fucked around with this message at 05:48 on Aug 26, 2014

deep dish peat moss
Jul 27, 2006

Call of Juarez: Bound in Blood is great. The first game was "ok". It's not a bad series, the only bad entry was The Cartel which wasn't even a real Call of Juarez game and was instead about modern day drug wars or something.

Bound in Blood is one of the best singleplayer FPS ever, it came out at a time when the singleplayer FPS was dying down and being replaced by the COD4-era multiplayer shooter and I feel like it was the last "great" singleplayer FPS. I liked BiB even more than Gunslinger (or rather; I was disappointed with Gunslinger because it wasn't another BiB). If you liked anything about Gunslinger beyond the narration mechanic (which doesn't appear in BiB) you should play Bound in Blood. It did pretty much everything except the presentation of the story better than Gunslinger did.

Zigmidge
May 12, 2002

Exsqueeze me, why the sour face? I'm here to lemon aid you. Let's juice it.
It also had a really great scoring system so that you can get a bit more meat out of this gameplay. There's more to it than just shooting mans!

DoubleDonut
Oct 22, 2010


Fallen Rib
At some point I acquired what I think is every Command and Conquer game for a small amount of money after having never played any of them. Can someone give me a list of which ones are generally considered to be any good, or at least which ones I should start off with to see if I want to play more? If it helps, the only RTSes I ever really got into were Blizzard's and Age of Empires 2.

DeathChicken
Jul 9, 2012

Nonsense. I have not yet begun to defile myself.

All of the Red Alerts are good. The first probably moreso than the later ones, but you'll like Red Alert 3 if you can at all appreciate a game where the US is led by J.K. Simmons, Russia is led by Tim Curry, Japan is led by George Takei and they're all at war.

Unreal_One
Aug 18, 2010

Now you know how I don't like to use the sit-down gun, but this morning we just don't have time for mucking about.

DoubleDonut posted:

At some point I acquired what I think is every Command and Conquer game for a small amount of money after having never played any of them. Can someone give me a list of which ones are generally considered to be any good, or at least which ones I should start off with to see if I want to play more? If it helps, the only RTSes I ever really got into were Blizzard's and Age of Empires 2.

The first one is pretty decent, Red Alert is much the same, but the second game in each of the series is where the real "meat" is. Tiberian Sun is some fan's favorite, but I'd have to say the best is Red Alert 2. RA2 is the first game where they really stop caring about realism and acting, and start caring about ridiculous super weapons and camp. Generals is a pretty good RTS, but not Command and Conquer-y at all, which is why a lot of people hated it. The third games in the two series are pretty good, but just feel like they have less soul, and are trying to make up for it. Tiberian Twilight is currently considered absolute poo poo, but I haven't played it..

jerichojx
Oct 21, 2010
What's a good RPG that is similar to either MM6, Baldur's Gate, Icewind Dale?

I have played the recent Might and Magic and I didn't like it very much. I have also tried Arcanum and ToEE.

lenoon
Jan 7, 2010

Generals has the added advantage of being the absolute best c and c game for massive LAN games that last all day.

StoryTime
Feb 26, 2010

Now listen to me children and I'll tell you of the legend of the Ninja

jerichojx posted:

What's a good RPG that is similar to either MM6, Baldur's Gate, Icewind Dale?

I have played the recent Might and Magic and I didn't like it very much. I have also tried Arcanum and ToEE.

Is Divinity: Original Sin replacing Dark Souls as the game everyone recommends to everyone? If you like Infinity Engine style RPGs, you'll like Original Sin.

Mordieth
Dec 23, 2008
I haven't really liked a racing game since nfs: porsche. I also seem to be the only person who didn't like nfs: underground, anybody have a suggestion? doesn't have to be new, as long as it runs on w7

Mokinokaro
Sep 11, 2001

At the end of everything, hold onto anything



Fun Shoe

StoryTime posted:

Is Divinity: Original Sin replacing Dark Souls as the game everyone recommends to everyone? If you like Infinity Engine style RPGs, you'll like Original Sin.

Echoing this. It's a bit more Icewind Dale in that there isn't heavy characterization of your party but the game captures the charm of classic rpgs with its own tweaks.

He also might want to keep an eye on Wasteland 2 out next month.

Yngwie Mangosteen
Aug 23, 2007

lenoon posted:

Generals has the added advantage of being the absolute best c and c game for massive LAN games that last all day.

A truer post has never been made. I have fond memories of being the camouflage GLA dude and just having a dozen and a half bases all around the map, being 100% impossible to fully root out as I slammed exploding trucks that looked like the other guys' tanks into their forces each time any of them tried to fight each other.

That game is the best game in the series, though as someone else said, it isn't really very C&C, it's just a really good RTS.

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

StoryTime posted:

Is Divinity: Original Sin replacing Dark Souls as the game everyone recommends to everyone? If you like Infinity Engine style RPGs, you'll like Original Sin.

Yep. We're going to end up recommending Divinity Original Sin, Dark Souls, FarCry Blood Dragon and Age of Wonders 3 on every page. :rolleyes:

DoubleDonut posted:

At some point I acquired what I think is every Command and Conquer game for a small amount of money after having never played any of them. Can someone give me a list of which ones are generally considered to be any good, or at least which ones I should start off with to see if I want to play more? If it helps, the only RTSes I ever really got into were Blizzard's and Age of Empires 2.

C&C 1 and Red Alert 1 are so old they're kinda unplayable unless you already have massive nostalgia. Skip them if you're new.

Overall the C&C series is a little more straight-faced while the Red Alert series is fully tongue-in-cheek. They're both cheesy at times though.

Red Alert 2 and Tiberian Sun (and Firestorm) are probably the high water mark. Really good 2D graphics, pretty fun gameplay with some varied missions. I still enjoy these today. I think they aged gracefully.

Then we get into the 3D era, where poo poo got a little rough for awhile. I could never get into C&C 3 or 4. Red Alert 3 wasn't too bad but also wasn't anything unbelievable, although its kinda more of the same campy fun but now in polished 3D. Better than 3 and 4 I'd say, and you can play the campaign co-op which is unique for RTS games and quite fun. Generals is kinda different, lots of people like it though.

I too was an RTS gamer who mostly played Blizzard games with a few of the Age of Empires games mixed in. Here's some tips for adjusting:

You train units from the UI itself, not from buildings. Building buildings just unlocks those units on the base UI, you don't ever select them to train. I think in the old games there was no advantage to building more than one of some building as a result, but in the later ones it makes you train units faster or simultaneously or something.

There's just the one major resource, and that poo poo matters. Get your guys mining spice tiberium. There's no "peasants" or "villagers" in C&C, you just place buildings by the hand of god (or nod). You have specific units to gather resources and only they can do so.

Mostly C&C is just about massing huge armies and plowing them into the enemy. I find them to be far less strategic than the Blizzard or Ensemble RTS games, although somebody can probably point out how I'm wrong.

Also of note (if you're a sci-fi nerd like me) is Dune 2000 which is a remake of Dune II using the Red Alert engine, and Emperor: Battle for Dune which used I think the C&C 3 engine, its early 3D which looks bad but I like how it plays. They both have a nice presentation if you're into Dune poo poo.

Also if you're looking for RTS games other than Blizz and Ensemble style, you should really really really play Company of Heroes.

Zaphod42 fucked around with this message at 18:08 on Aug 27, 2014

Pipski
Apr 18, 2004

Geektox posted:

I guess I'm looking for games with roguelike elements, but nothing horribly complex, and for me ToME and DCSS both cross the line slightly. I guess those two are considered pretty easy roguelikes, but something like Pixel Dungeons on Android is actually the perfect amount of complexity.

Not quite the same thing, but if you haven't already played it you might enjoy 10000000 on Android. It's...what is it? It's like a running game with RPG collectibles and upgrades, and a match-3 combat system. It's excellent!

Tweak
Jul 28, 2003

or dont whatever








How Diablo-clicky is Divinity? I have a road trip coming up and want a couple more Steam titles to play on my Surface Pro 2 when I'm not driving, but I don't exactly have a lot of mouse real estate. Are there any other good recommendations for something on Steam I can play with at least not-twitchy mouse controls/controller support? I've been playing a lot of FTL lately, but assuming I don't throw my surface out the window after a particularly bad beat I'd like something to transition to. Strategy/RPG maybe?

Mechafunkzilla
Sep 11, 2006

If you want a vision of the future...

Tweak posted:

How Diablo-clicky is Divinity? I have a road trip coming up and want a couple more Steam titles to play on my Surface Pro 2 when I'm not driving, but I don't exactly have a lot of mouse real estate. Are there any other good recommendations for something on Steam I can play with at least not-twitchy mouse controls/controller support? I've been playing a lot of FTL lately, but assuming I don't throw my surface out the window after a particularly bad beat I'd like something to transition to. Strategy/RPG maybe?

It's completely turn-based. Not clicky at all.

lenoon
Jan 7, 2010

Generals does require more strategy in force composition as it's designed around some units having hard counters to others. There are dedicated anti infantry armour building and air units, specialists (especially with the expansion) that require different treatment than the normal variants and most importantly a wide range of factions that play in fundamentally different ways to each other (again with the expansion).

I played it online a lot back in the day. You'd see a specific unit or effect and think "right have to play differently this time" which was cool. There was a toxic general, for example, that basically meant you had to be very careful if you were used to using a lot of infantry. The aircraft general was almost immune to a lot of AA fire, so your ideal strategy became about dispersing forces and ignoring the bombers to try and slip a small group through to take them out on the ground.

It required a lot of micro and macro management to be incredibly effective - pathing the American special forces guy through mountains (only he could climb them) or selecting the exact vehicle for jarman kell to snipe, switching your American infantry to the optimum mix of rifles and flash bangs.....


Man I should reinstall generals!

HereComesEverybody
Mar 2, 2007

a commodius vicus of recirculation back to Howth Castle and Environs.

My bi-annual craving to play a JRPG has once again struck! This past winter, I played through Ni No Kuni and loved it, and I'm hoping to get into something from the PS3/360/Wii generation once again. But I'm suffering from choice paralysis. Off the top of my head, these are the games I own:

- Tales of Xillia (played about an hour, and though the combat was fun, the characters seem dull and the translation seems poor)
- FFXIII
- FFX/X-2 HD (played FFX on the PS2)
- Xenoblade Chronicles
- Valkyrie Chronicles

I'd be open to any other suggestions, too, of course.

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.
I just wanna recommend that everybody in this thread plays Shovel Knight regardless of who you are. :colbert:

HereComesEverybody posted:

My bi-annual craving to play a JRPG has once again struck! This past winter, I played through Ni No Kuni and loved it, and I'm hoping to get into something from the PS3/360/Wii generation once again. But I'm suffering from choice paralysis. Off the top of my head, these are the games I own:

- Tales of Xillia (played about an hour, and though the combat was fun, the characters seem dull and the translation seems poor)
- FFXIII
- FFX/X-2 HD (played FFX on the PS2)
- Xenoblade Chronicles
- Valkyrie Chronicles

I'd be open to any other suggestions, too, of course.

If you've got a 3DS then Bravely Default is the best FF game in years. The ending kinda drags on and on but until then its top notch.

South Park : Stick of Truth was a decent RPG that played a lot like Paper Mario if you enjoy the humor of Matt and Trey.

DOUBLE CLICK HERE
Feb 5, 2005
WA3
Valkyria Chronicles is a fantastic game, though JRPG might be a mislabel. It's more a xcom tactics sorta thing dressed up in anime. If you have it + haven't played it, then this would be my #1 pick. The only thing that's slightly disappointing is how the fight rankings reward speed over everything else.

Xenoblade is A Great JRPG (if you keep yourself from doing every sidequest) and you will probably enjoy it. Everything from the music, voice acting, graphics to the customization and exploration you can do to compliment its gameplay is top notch.

Zaphod42 posted:

I just wanna recommend that everybody in this thread plays God Hand regardless of who you are. :colbert:


imo (Shovel Knight is p good though)

pigdog
Apr 23, 2004

by Smythe

Zaphod42 posted:

Also of note (if you're a sci-fi nerd like me) is Dune 2000 which is a remake of Dune II using the Red Alert engine, and Emperor: Battle for Dune which used I think the C&C 3 engine, its early 3D which looks bad but I like how it plays. They both have a nice presentation if you're into Dune poo poo.

Just a note that Dune 2000 screwed with the original game by introducing rock-paper-scissors kinda mechanic, i.e. tanks have hard time killing infantry. If you want to have fun the oldschool way and run over everything with your Devastator tanks and whatnot, get the original Dune 2 from GOG or something.

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

DOUBLE CLICK HERE posted:

GOD HAND
imo (Shovel Knight is p good though)

Don't act like you don't like the ballbuster.

BALLBUSTER!

I dunno, God Hand is a special snowflake that more people should play than have, but its not really for everybody.

Nordick
Sep 3, 2011

Yes.

Mokinokaro posted:

He also might want to keep an eye on Wasteland 2 out next month.
Not to mention Pillars of Eternity later this year.

But yeah, Divinity: Original Sin is pretty much an instant classic. Go get it.

Tagra
Apr 7, 2006

If you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you.


HereComesEverybody posted:

My bi-annual craving to play a JRPG has once again struck! This past winter, I played through Ni No Kuni and loved it, and I'm hoping to get into something from the PS3/360/Wii generation once again. But I'm suffering from choice paralysis. Off the top of my head, these are the games I own:

- Tales of Xillia (played about an hour, and though the combat was fun, the characters seem dull and the translation seems poor)
- FFXIII
- FFX/X-2 HD (played FFX on the PS2)
- Xenoblade Chronicles
- Valkyrie Chronicles

I'd be open to any other suggestions, too, of course.

Xenoblade made it onto my top shelf right next to Chrono Trigger and FF6. But yeah, resist the temptation to do every side quest because oh my god.

Mokinokaro
Sep 11, 2001

At the end of everything, hold onto anything



Fun Shoe

HereComesEverybody posted:

My bi-annual craving to play a JRPG has once again struck! This past winter, I played through Ni No Kuni and loved it, and I'm hoping to get into something from the PS3/360/Wii generation once again. But I'm suffering from choice paralysis. Off the top of my head, these are the games I own:

- Tales of Xillia (played about an hour, and though the combat was fun, the characters seem dull and the translation seems poor)
- FFXIII
- FFX/X-2 HD (played FFX on the PS2)
- Xenoblade Chronicles
- Valkyrie Chronicles

I'd be open to any other suggestions, too, of course.

Tales of Vesperia if you have a 360. It's the best of the series. Xillia's pretty bland sadly as far as Tales goes (there's nothing really wrong with the translation, it's just a bland game.)

Tales of Graces F also has really good combat, but you might not like the characters outside of a couple and the plot is really cliche (FRIENDSHIP.) Still, it's probably pretty cheap now.

Of that list definitely avoid FFXIII. It's just not very good. I can vouch for Valkyria Chronicles being a lot of fun (be ready for a lot of cutscenes between battle.) Goons really love Xenoblade but I find the combat the dullest thing which did turn me off the game after five-six hours but I will fully admit it might just be me.

FluxFaun
Apr 7, 2010


I'm in the mood for high fantasy. Something super cheesy with wizards and bards and epic quests and long rambling plot. I've enjoyed The Witcher, The Bard's Tale, Neverwinter Nights 1 and 2, and most of the older Final Fantasies. PC only, please, my DS is out of commission and I don't have any other consoles atm.

DeathChicken
Jul 9, 2012

Nonsense. I have not yet begun to defile myself.

Lord of the Rings Online is still going, right?

SolidSnakesBandana
Jul 1, 2007

Infinite ammo
Dragon Age seems like too obvious a suggestion, but there's that.

DoubleDonut
Oct 22, 2010


Fallen Rib

Sociopastry posted:

I'm in the mood for high fantasy. Something super cheesy with wizards and bards and epic quests and long rambling plot.

Quest for Glory's old and you've probably already played it, but it's a really good series. I mean, it's also halfway a point-and-click adventure game, but still. (Don't be put off by it being by Sierra; QfG has a lot fewer bullshit deaths/unwinnable situations than their other games.)

DOUBLE CLICK HERE
Feb 5, 2005
WA3
Divinity Original Sin

FluxFaun
Apr 7, 2010


I've already played LotRO and Dragon Age, sorry, I should have mentioned. I've not tried Quest for Glory or Divinity, though. I'll give those a try. If ou guys have any other suggestions though, keep 'em coming!

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

Sociopastry posted:

I'm in the mood for high fantasy. Something super cheesy with wizards and bards and epic quests and long rambling plot. I've enjoyed The Witcher, The Bard's Tale, Neverwinter Nights 1 and 2, and most of the older Final Fantasies. PC only, please, my DS is out of commission and I don't have any other consoles atm.

How many times must we say Divinity: Original Sin? FFS

Its pretty much Neverwinter Nights 3.

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Coldstone Cream-my-pants
Jun 21, 2007

Tweak posted:

How Diablo-clicky is Divinity? I have a road trip coming up and want a couple more Steam titles to play on my Surface Pro 2 when I'm not driving, but I don't exactly have a lot of mouse real estate. Are there any other good recommendations for something on Steam I can play with at least not-twitchy mouse controls/controller support? I've been playing a lot of FTL lately, but assuming I don't throw my surface out the window after a particularly bad beat I'd like something to transition to. Strategy/RPG maybe?

Age of Wonders 3 is Strategy/RPG. It's turn-based and you can play it on your own terms with just a mouse. I play it through my iPad sometimes and it works really well, so it's probably similar on a Surface. Now would also be a great time to get hooked on it because there's an expansion due out in a few weeks.

Divinity: Original Sin is a great game but it has a lot of reading and dialogue and is pretty slow overall. Just everyone bear that in mind if your favorite RPGs are Diablo and Dark Souls. That being said it's been a good recommendation every time.

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