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Mister Roboto
Jun 15, 2009

I SWING BY AUNT MAY's
FOR A SHOWER AND A
BITE, MOST NATURAL
THING IN THE WORLD,
ASSUMING SHE'S
NOT HOME...

...AND I
FIND HER IN BED
WITH MY
FATHER, AND THE
TWO OF THEM
ARE...ARE...

...AAAAAAAAUUUUGH!

doomfunk posted:

e: Also, of all people, why would the astronaut resurrect Kishimoto? She didn't exactly have a stellar score or anything.

1. The astronaut didn't really know what he was doing when tinkering with the ball and just ended up with her by accident.
2. Fanservice, sex sells, boobs, etc.

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Serious Frolicking
Jul 1, 2007
Awkward phrasing, for the most part.


He obviously should have resurrected the panda, instead.

sharktamer
Oct 30, 2011

Shark tamer ridiculous

Isn't the case with Kishimoto simply that she died when committing suicide and was copied to Gantz, but was then resuscitated, so her original existed too?

I may have missed what originally happened to them, but should we expect a reappearance from the vampires? It always kinda sucked that they never wore the suits, would have been interesting to see how ridiculous they'd be with them on.

Black Is Black
Jan 6, 2007
Black is the new black.

As much as I want this book to come to a clean ending, I really can't wait for life to end miserably for everyone. I mean, if they defeat the giant robots, if they defeat the giant alien blobs of grey, then what's left? The non-combatant aliens to either leave or get slaughtered by Gantz-ers. I'm going to guess they will not get to leave.

Even if all that happens, then what? Behold Earth's new Gantz-enabled overlords?

Everyone will die a horrible death, this is the only way this book can end and I can't wait.

Mister Roboto
Jun 15, 2009

I SWING BY AUNT MAY's
FOR A SHOWER AND A
BITE, MOST NATURAL
THING IN THE WORLD,
ASSUMING SHE'S
NOT HOME...

...AND I
FIND HER IN BED
WITH MY
FATHER, AND THE
TWO OF THEM
ARE...ARE...

...AAAAAAAAUUUUGH!

sharktamer posted:

Isn't the case with Kishimoto simply that she died when committing suicide and was copied to Gantz, but was then resuscitated, so her original existed too?

I may have missed what originally happened to them, but should we expect a reappearance from the vampires? It always kinda sucked that they never wore the suits, would have been interesting to see how ridiculous they'd be with them on.

Yes, that's the case with Kishimoto, the original is the one that's still alive and not part of Gantz. The fighter has been dead for...man, I think 5 years now?

As for the Vamps, they're done and over with as a threat to the Gantzers. Most of them got wiped out by Izumi and the remainders have better things to worry about now than their grudge.

Last time we saw them was during the worldwide Italy mission and they're likely busy running around trying to stay alive right now.

Vagabundo
Mar 20, 2007

Pon farr is never logical, Mr. Spock

Mister Roboto posted:

Yes, that's the case with Kishimoto, the original is the one that's still alive and not part of Gantz. The fighter has been dead for...man, I think 5 years now?

It's actually about 6 or 7 months in continuity. It's explicitly stated that Nishi was dead for 6 months - he got killed during the Tanaka Seijin mission and came back in time for the Osaka mission. The time frame between the Buddha Statue mission and the Katastrophe is probably roughly the same.

Kial
Jul 23, 2006


Am I the only one that has been following the series for years but has no clue what is going on currently? Might have to reread the last 100 chapters.

Mister Roboto
Jun 15, 2009

I SWING BY AUNT MAY's
FOR A SHOWER AND A
BITE, MOST NATURAL
THING IN THE WORLD,
ASSUMING SHE'S
NOT HOME...

...AND I
FIND HER IN BED
WITH MY
FATHER, AND THE
TWO OF THEM
ARE...ARE...

...AAAAAAAAUUUUGH!

Vagabundo posted:

It's actually about 6 or 7 months in continuity. It's explicitly stated that Nishi was dead for 6 months - he got killed during the Tanaka Seijin mission and came back in time for the Osaka mission. The time frame between the Buddha Statue mission and the Katastrophe is probably roughly the same.

I was referring to reader-time, since Kishimoto died on the second real mission and that was a looong time ago yet readers still want her. I guesss DD cups have that effect on horny nerds.

Seven months in-story sounds about right, but that may be a little low--it's been about a year and some since Kurano started Gantzing. Probably closer to a full year in continuity since Kishimoto died.

Kial posted:

Am I the only one that has been following the series for years but has no clue what is going on currently? Might have to reread the last 100 chapters.

That's probably a good idea, since it's all coming to a head soon. You may want to also refresh the chapters on GANTZ's origins since Sebastian (who is possibly "God") will likely be playing a role before it all ends too.

ANIME AKBAR
Jan 25, 2007

afu~

I just went back and started re-reading the whole thing, and god drat I forgot how good this manga used to be. The temple fight (the third one starting around chapter 60) is awesome, and there is a huge amount of character development, along with all the soul crushing brutality. Plus it has that sniper dude, who is pretty much the most badass character in the series. Shame he didn't last long.

Mister Roboto
Jun 15, 2009

I SWING BY AUNT MAY's
FOR A SHOWER AND A
BITE, MOST NATURAL
THING IN THE WORLD,
ASSUMING SHE'S
NOT HOME...

...AND I
FIND HER IN BED
WITH MY
FATHER, AND THE
TWO OF THEM
ARE...ARE...

...AAAAAAAAUUUUGH!

I'm rereading it too to prepare for the finale and I noticed a detail I missed before:



Apparently German Michael Moore works for the GANTZ creator.

Serious Frolicking
Jul 1, 2007
Awkward phrasing, for the most part.


I don't get it. Did that guy appear elsewhere, or are you saying that some random guy you think looks like Michael Moore is funny?

sharktamer
Oct 30, 2011

Shark tamer ridiculous

Mister Roboto posted:

Last time we saw them was during the worldwide Italy mission and they're likely busy running around trying to stay alive right now.

Speaking of the Italy mission, with our prior knowledge of the monsters actually being alien immigrants/invaders, doesn't that mean the Italy aliens would have been successful? We didn't see the end, but they were a hell of a lot stronger than the giant moomins that the gantzers are facing now.

Vagabundo
Mar 20, 2007

Pon farr is never logical, Mr. Spock

360 raws are available.

http://mangahead.com/Manga-Raw-Scan...tz-360-Raw-Scan

Mister Roboto
Jun 15, 2009

I SWING BY AUNT MAY's
FOR A SHOWER AND A
BITE, MOST NATURAL
THING IN THE WORLD,
ASSUMING SHE'S
NOT HOME...

...AND I
FIND HER IN BED
WITH MY
FATHER, AND THE
TWO OF THEM
ARE...ARE...

...AAAAAAAAUUUUGH!

Reposting these old pages as a courtesy. Just a reminder that Nishi seemed to figure out what was really going on ages ago:



Doc Hawkins
Jun 15, 2010

Dashing, you say? But I'm not even moving!


Mister Roboto posted:

I'm rereading it too to prepare for the finale and I noticed a detail I missed before:



Apparently German Michael Moore works for the GANTZ creator.

Which chapter is this? I've been wanting to re-read it specifically for a while.

Vagabundo
Mar 20, 2007

Pon farr is never logical, Mr. Spock

Available in English now.

http://www.batoto.net/read/_/92601/...ch360_by_utopia

silentsnack
Mar 19, 2009


Doc Hawkins posted:

Which chapter is this? I've been wanting to re-read it specifically for a while.

The Sebastian/Germany/??? interlude shows up in 284~285 and 301~302

canned_fruit
Feb 4, 2008


Cool chapter. Anyone else think the artwork has improved since a few chapters ago? I think people may be right saying that the earthquake somehow affected Oku's method of working and he's only getting back on his feet now.

Cherry taking the bomb out of his head - that would have been very useful earlier say in Osaka when they were getting pinned against the boundary. His master even died because of it. Oh well I guess.

Vagabundo
Mar 20, 2007

Pon farr is never logical, Mr. Spock

The robots certainly looked a lot clearer than before in my opinion.

Daler Mehndi
Apr 10, 2005
Tunak Tunak Tun!

Sometimes I wonder just how clean the scans are, compared to the originals. But I agree, it's nice to see the details on those mechs.

Mister Roboto
Jun 15, 2009

I SWING BY AUNT MAY's
FOR A SHOWER AND A
BITE, MOST NATURAL
THING IN THE WORLD,
ASSUMING SHE'S
NOT HOME...

...AND I
FIND HER IN BED
WITH MY
FATHER, AND THE
TWO OF THEM
ARE...ARE...

...AAAAAAAAUUUUGH!

canned_fruit posted:

bomb

Well, that's clearly done to show that Cherry's powers have evolved exponentially since they manifested a year before. He's also clearly losing his mind, though that follows given the fact the world just ended.

Agent Baal
May 28, 2006

my dixie wrecked

Well, the new chapter is coming out late this week. So here's some raw and spoilers.

http://mangahelpers.com/forum/showt...ummaries-Thread

Looks like the zaibatsu boys are about to get hosed

Doc Hawkins
Jun 15, 2010

Dashing, you say? But I'm not even moving!


silentsnack posted:

The Sebastian/Germany/??? interlude shows up in 284~285 and 301~302

Thank you! Goddamn is that still my favorite part.

"Is God like a person, or what shape does he take?"

Vagabundo
Mar 20, 2007

Pon farr is never logical, Mr. Spock

Only off by 2 weeks, Agent Baal.


They sure took their loving time getting 361 out.

http://www.mangareader.net/gantz/361

MayLanh
Apr 16, 2012

by angerbot


Chapter Gantz 361 is out

http://kissmanga.com/Manga/Gantz/361-Battlecry
and
Gantz 362

I like read from here, because all keep high quality.

MayLanh fucked around with this message at Apr 30, 2012 around 00:52

Mister Roboto
Jun 15, 2009

I SWING BY AUNT MAY's
FOR A SHOWER AND A
BITE, MOST NATURAL
THING IN THE WORLD,
ASSUMING SHE'S
NOT HOME...

...AND I
FIND HER IN BED
WITH MY
FATHER, AND THE
TWO OF THEM
ARE...ARE...

...AAAAAAAAUUUUGH!

Slipped in a Final Fantasy 7 reference there.



Also, Oku has kept his gigantic mech designs constant, here's the original one that turned up ages ago with the skilled Osaka players:

Mister Roboto fucked around with this message at Apr 21, 2012 around 11:52

sharktamer
Oct 30, 2011

Shark tamer ridiculous

So Cherry is basically Tetsuo now?

Not complaining, Tetsuo is an incredible character.

Nilbop
Jun 5, 2004

Looks like someone forgot his hardhat...


Why would they have a giant cannon pointing at their own residential buildings inside their own spaceship? I guess it makes as much sense as having vicious telekinetic mutants running around a couple feet below your children everyday.

Agent Baal
May 28, 2006

my dixie wrecked

Spoilers and raw pics for 362.

http://mangatopia.net/foro/showthre...__-0362-Spoiler

Wonder how long it will take this time.

Agent Baal
May 28, 2006

my dixie wrecked

New chapter.

http://www.batoto.net/read/_/98722/...362_by_utopia/2

Vagabundo
Mar 20, 2007

Pon farr is never logical, Mr. Spock

363 raws are out. Translated versions shouldn't be too far behind.

http://mangahead.com/Manga-Raw-Scan...tz-363-Raw-Scan

VocalizePlayerDeath
Jan 29, 2009


The art has improved so much. Such a difference from the smudgy sewer monsters.

ANIME AKBAR
Jan 25, 2007

afu~

Yeah that was pretty great. No CG as far as I can tell.

Looking forward to seeing Kurono kick rear end in a heavyarms suit, or whatever the hell it's called.

Mister Roboto
Jun 15, 2009

I SWING BY AUNT MAY's
FOR A SHOWER AND A
BITE, MOST NATURAL
THING IN THE WORLD,
ASSUMING SHE'S
NOT HOME...

...AND I
FIND HER IN BED
WITH MY
FATHER, AND THE
TWO OF THEM
ARE...ARE...

...AAAAAAAAUUUUGH!

Translated:

http://www.mangareader.net/gantz/363/2

Well, this is not going to end well for Kuruno if he thinks Detente is what anyone on any sides wants.

Also, Nishi: He's a dead man (boy). Kuruno's probably gonna have to kill him now.

If THAT is the final battle, I can honestly say I didn't expect that and I doubt anyone else did either.

Mister Roboto fucked around with this message at May 17, 2012 around 11:10

Nilbop
Jun 5, 2004

Looks like someone forgot his hardhat...


Well at least we're heading towards a conclusion that makes sense for the story, in that instead of killing the monsters, we're going to save them, hopefuly bringing everything to a close because frankly this manga is long due for putting out to pasture. It also works that Kurono will be taking down the most amoral, jaded, repeat-gamer on his team to do it.

The main thing though, is that this manga needs to end. If this small glimpse turns out to be a red herring I'll probably just quit altogether.

Andrigaar
Dec 12, 2003
Saint of Killers


Nilbop posted:

Well at least we're heading towards a conclusion that makes sense for the story, in that instead of killing the monsters, we're going to save them, hopefuly bringing everything to a close because frankly this manga is long due for putting out to pasture. It also works that Kurono will be taking down the most amoral, jaded, repeat-gamer on his team to do it.

The main thing though, is that this manga needs to end. If this small glimpse turns out to be a red herring I'll probably just quit altogether.

And every 4-6 months you'll go back to it just to see if it's done yet so you can roll through it in one sitting.

Still, seconding that this poo poo needs to go endgame pronto.

Breaky
Jul 21, 2006

STRIKE FIRST
STRIKE HARD
NO MERCY SIR


Maybe it's just me but I don't really feel sympathetic towards the aliens at all. They just showed up, hosed up most of the world, treated the rest as food and because they have human tendencies and have innocent children it's just all supposed to stop right there? I just don't feel like they really made much of a case yet... .

cooldude2.0
Oct 12, 2004


Agreed. Sure, humans eat lesser lifeforms too, but we don't usually consume them live while they sob and plead for their lives, nor do we take the kids out hunting for pure torturous sport. I'm with Cherry, those kids and grandmas he killed were probably on their way to some sadistic activity or another.

Mister Roboto
Jun 15, 2009

I SWING BY AUNT MAY's
FOR A SHOWER AND A
BITE, MOST NATURAL
THING IN THE WORLD,
ASSUMING SHE'S
NOT HOME...

...AND I
FIND HER IN BED
WITH MY
FATHER, AND THE
TWO OF THEM
ARE...ARE...

...AAAAAAAAUUUUGH!

I think that's the "in war, innocents on both sides suffer" idea Oku is finishing the story with. Yeah, it's easy to see the aliens as complete and total monsters from the get-go because they attacked us and did horrible things, but back on their homeland (the ship is basically a country) they have innocent civilians as well.

Also note that outside of Fra (the lady alien), none of the aliens have even bothered to learn that humans could talk. So we're just squeaking little rats to them.


Oku deliberately started showing the aliens being pure sadistic monsters, but then used Tae and Cherry's adventures to show that the non-soldiers are just living their lives and don't even think about what their government/armies are doing.

...which is kind of what you, me, and everyone else here does every single day with our own government's atrocities.

I've said it before; Oku's about as subtle as a hammer about his metaphors.


cooldude2.0 posted:

Agreed. Sure, humans eat lesser lifeforms too, but we don't usually consume them live while they sob and plead for their lives, nor do we take the kids out hunting for pure torturous sport.

We kind of DO do that, man...there's plenty of organizations out there that promote hunting as a sport AND consider it a family event. As I said above, the aliens can't/don't care to understand human language, so it's really no different than some rifle-wounded 4-legged lower life form bleating for its life as we empty a clip into its head.

Mister Roboto fucked around with this message at May 19, 2012 around 12:11

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Algid
Oct 9, 2007


At least some of them know that humans are sentient. There was that propaganda clip they broadcast in that one chapter saying that the hunters were "terrorists" and the aliens come in peace.

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