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I figure this thread would happen eventually. I know there are plenty of people here doing the officer training thing, so if anyone has any advice for future officers or you want to ask questions this would be the place to do it. What service selection does everyone want to go? I want to do subs, but I'll probably end up a SWO. I liked how much more relaxed about things that don't matter (Officer country on a ship is pretty silly, imo). Does anyone remember that thread where the guy was in the phillipines or somewhere in WESTPAC and he got hammered and punched a taxi driver and thought the mob was after him? I'm almost positive I met that guy on my 2/C sub cruise. Also the Captain was one of the nicest guys I had met and was totally amused by "Leroy Jenkins".
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| # ? Oct 22, 2009 21:09 |
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I had some enjoyable human being from some charleston school get all in my face once because he thought I cut him and I dressed him down for being a prissy peice of poo poo and told him to join the loving military. I may have been HAMMERED though so it may have been out of line.
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| # ? Oct 22, 2009 21:15 |
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Hello Cadots.  Fake edit: Get some enlisted leadership experience at least to the E6 level in any branch of service. Trust me, enlisted will hate you if you don't. Funny you should mention that, I lost my cool as a SPC in the Army Guard with a ROTC Cadet who was running a 240B/249 range. To her, waiting for dusk to fire the night table was more important than me shuttling my guys back to post for chow (somehow I ended up being the senior rep for my company on the range, and had acquired myself a HMMWV earlier in the day running night optics to said range.) \/\/\/\/\/\/\/ 0rganDonor fucked around with this message at Oct 22, 2009 around 21:27 |
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I hate kids that try and pull that poo poo. Yelling at enlisted? Seriously? I always hear stories of 4/C making enlisted salute them or other stupid stuff. How dumb do you have to be to say you deserve more respect than someone who has been in the service a couple of years.
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| # ? Oct 22, 2009 21:20 |
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Francesca posted:I hate kids that try and pull that poo poo. Yelling at enlisted? Seriously? I always hear stories of 4/C making enlisted salute them or other stupid stuff. How dumb do you have to be to say you deserve more respect than someone who has been in the service a couple of years. I have no idea why the gently caress an enlisted guy would ever even consider saluting them. The cadet may be a enjoyable human being, but the enlisted troop is an idiot.
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| # ? Oct 22, 2009 21:39 |
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Our uniforms are basically the same as a full fledged officer, just with tiny little anchors instead of bars. It's pretty easy to think that a 20 something in an officer uniform is an officer if you are in a hurry. Also a lot of people don't really know what the gently caress we are so they just assume we are officers.
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| # ? Oct 22, 2009 21:57 |
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Francesca posted:Our uniforms are basically the same as a full fledged officer, just with tiny little anchors instead of bars. It's pretty easy to think that a 20 something in an officer uniform is an officer if you are in a hurry. Also a lot of people don't really know what the gently caress we are so they just assume we are officers. I will never, ever try to salute a cadet. I had one try to hem me up for not doing it one day and I just looked back at him and bust up laughing. Until you have that butter bar, you're pretty much just a kid playing army/air force or whatever to me.
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| # ? Oct 22, 2009 22:19 |
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Yeah, I'm AFROTC and if we don't salute an enlisted person we get the reaming of a lifetime. I've never met a cadet who wasn't told a thousand times that you're nothing until you're commissioned, so don't act like the poo poo. There seems to be a lot of stereotypical arrogance thrust on cadets and young officers, and from that I have to say that pretty much all of the training I've gone through is extremely thorough in recognizing enlisted personnel as the backbone of the AF. Maybe it's a new thing, but if you get out of Field Training thinking that ignoring your enlisted men is a good idea, you haven't been listening very well.
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| # ? Oct 23, 2009 00:44 |
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God I fucking love Diablo 3 gold, it even paid for this shitty title
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I love giggling at citadel kids that live near me. They walk around downtown Charleston in these terrible looking uniforms and act ramrod straight all the time. It makes no sense to me.
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| # ? Oct 23, 2009 00:48 |
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I got a "heil hitler" salute from a random student on campus this week on our "wear your uniforms today" day, that was pretty cool
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| # ? Oct 23, 2009 01:01 |
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TheGame posted:Yeah, I'm AFROTC and if we don't salute an enlisted person we get the reaming of a lifetime. I've never met a cadet who wasn't told a thousand times that you're nothing until you're commissioned, so don't act like the poo poo. Why are you saluting enlisted? Christ, I've never known an enlisted person who ever WANTED to be saluted.
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| # ? Oct 23, 2009 01:18 |
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its way cool if you can get a bdu/abu hat with a little brown strip in the middle so it looks like subdued bars from far away.
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| # ? Oct 23, 2009 01:27 |
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KetTarma posted:I love giggling at citadel kids that live near me. They walk around downtown Charleston in these terrible looking uniforms and act ramrod straight all the time. It makes no sense to me. Normal ROTC cadets think that military college cadets are absolutely hilarious. Getting saluted by enlisted guys is awkward; I think a lot of them see the odd (and useless) ranks and think we're warrants or something. And as for the bitch running the 240B range, I guarantee she couldn't separate loving cadet land (where she's expected to be irrational, God I've never seen so much stupid poo poo from otherwise sensible individuals than from fourth year ROTC cadets, but that's for another time) from reality.
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| # ? Oct 23, 2009 01:47 |
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When I was in AFROTC I was alone in the cadet lounge with this 4th year cadet and he was talking about how DBZ was his favorite anime because all it's all super manly with all the power levels and poo poo. Then he demonstrated the proper kamehameha wave complete with yelling, but at indoor volume levels. I struggled to not laugh in his face and all I could think of was, "this guy is going to lead men. Why isn't anyone else here to see this?"
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| # ? Oct 23, 2009 01:57 |
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Cadet lounge? What is this?
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| # ? Oct 23, 2009 02:00 |
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A place with leather couches, a kitchenette with snacks and payment based on the trust system, a flat screen tv, an ottoman full of bootleg dvds (some requested by the actual officers in charge), an Xbox 360 brought in by the nerdy dude who came to uni dressed as a ninja for halloween, and Rudy/Transformers playing on loop 24/7 if no one is playing CoD4.
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| # ? Oct 23, 2009 02:04 |
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I met an innocent, naive, and Mormon Army Cadet when I went to Airborne at Ft Benning and I managed to corrupt her into being a dirty slut in three weeks. This is the only time I have seen a cadet but I give them A++ reviews. You guys are like privates but really naive and cheerful its so cute.
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| # ? Oct 23, 2009 02:26 |
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We had some cadets visit the base here, kind of weird considering we're in korea, must have been one crazy rear end field trip. They looked worried all the time. Also, lol at the dot rank, even though they make more money than I do. I was kind of curious as to whether or not we had to salute them, as I'd never seen one before. Turns out, you don't. Pretty sure they were wearing PC caps all the time, I think i'd laugh if one told me to salute him when you aren't even fit to wear the beret.
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| # ? Oct 23, 2009 07:22 |
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I'm pretty sure SA is blocked at West Point at the moment.
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| # ? Oct 23, 2009 09:11 |
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I dont agree with this thread title. I have had cadets tell me I needed to salute them.
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| # ? Oct 23, 2009 14:09 |
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AROTC MSI here, I've only ever been directly saluted by a 3 year old boy. There are quite a few prior enlisted here so I don't see much ego.
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| # ? Oct 23, 2009 14:43 |
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I don't mean to offend anyone at the academies, but I mostly see that kind of stuff from them. ROTC kids are usually polite but confused. I'm so thankful I didn't end up in the academy, like 80% of ROTC I applied but didn't get in, now I get to have a regular college life for the most part while those poor saps have to go through so much bs. You are actually at a disadvantage because we have to budget our time for ourselves, we have to manage our money (to some degree...), and we get most of the partying out of our system before we get in the fleet.
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| # ? Oct 23, 2009 15:02 |
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The Sheriff Jake posted:I dont agree with this thread title. I have had cadets tell me I needed to salute them. They're wrong. A cadet is not a commissioned officer, and their cadre needs to rein their poo poo in.
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AFStealth posted:Why are you saluting enlisted? Christ, I've never known an enlisted person who ever WANTED to be saluted. Police officers around here salute me all the time. I feel really weird about it but god drat if I don't return it.
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Full Battle Rattle posted:We had some cadets visit the base here, kind of weird considering we're in korea, must have been one crazy rear end field trip. They looked worried all the time. Also, lol at the dot rank, even though they make more money than I do. I was kind of curious as to whether or not we had to salute them, as I'd never seen one before. Turns out, you don't. It's called Cadet Troop Leadership Training, and it's basically a three week internship with a platoon leader. Some cadets have the opportunity to go to it after attending LDAC prior to their senior year. quote:I'm so thankful I didn't end up in the academy, like 80% of ROTC I applied but didn't get in, now I get to have a regular college life for the most part while those poor saps have to go through so much bs. You are actually at a disadvantage because we have to budget our time for ourselves, we have to manage our money (to some degree...), and we get most of the partying out of our system before we get in the fleet. Pretty much how I feel about it. I wound up at a school that is much better academically for what I'm interested in, so I'm not at all upset about not going to the academy. My friend just started at the naval academy this year after spending two years in the fleet, and he said that the biggest annoyance there is the number of people with absolutely no social skills.
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| # ? Oct 23, 2009 16:57 |
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I've had cadets attached to my unit several times as well as West Point cadets attend training on my post. Some of them thought they deserved salutes. I've never laughed so hard in my life.
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| # ? Oct 23, 2009 23:42 |
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Well Im planning to to AF ROTC as a grad student... I was going to ask questions but I guess instead I'll just promise to to make anyone salute me....?
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| # ? Oct 23, 2009 23:50 |
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The Sheriff Jake posted:I dont agree with this thread title. I have had cadets tell me I needed to salute them. Tell them to gently caress off, or alternately, tell some officer to go yell at them.
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| # ? Oct 24, 2009 02:24 |
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BlueBayou posted:Well Im planning to to AF ROTC as a grad student... Fire away
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| # ? Oct 24, 2009 02:46 |
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Navy Midshipman 3/C here! Shooting for pilot or EOD. I just hope I'm qualified for PRK... should find out here on November 9th. We had Rear Admiral Gary Jones (NSTC) as the Guest of Honor at our Quarterdeck ball tonight. Awesome guy who is an amazingly funny, personable guy and a great speaker. LessThanWilly fucked around with this message at Oct 24, 2009 around 04:38 |
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LessThanWilly posted:I just hope I'm qualified for PRK... should find out here on November 9th. PRK is fun. I could smell my eyeballs burning as my vision temporarily went out! It was seriously the best decision of my life I love my eyes now.
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| # ? Oct 24, 2009 07:11 |
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Academies: Where the incompetent lead the unwilling to do the unnecessary I hated saluting 1/C when running to class as an underclassman. As a 1/C officer (supply yea...) I hated saluting underclassmen while carrying armloads of books
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| # ? Oct 24, 2009 08:59 |
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When I was in the national guard they would place cadets into platoons where there was a platoon leader vacancy. When I was 19 I didn't know any better and I'd entertain there retarded notions about being in a leadership position but after the war whenever one would talk to me I'd just give them blank stares with dead eyes.
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forever whatever posted:When I was in the national guard they would place cadets into platoons where there was a platoon leader vacancy. When I was 19 I didn't know any better and I'd entertain there retarded notions about being in a leadership position but after the war whenever one would talk to me I'd just give them blank stares with dead eyes. In my unit cadets get put into PL slots but they don't actually operate as PLs. Essentially they just follow the PSG around and get told to shut the gently caress up.
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| # ? Oct 24, 2009 16:59 |
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AFStealth posted:Fire away Mostly Im wondering what it is like to do ROTC as a grad student. Even if no one on here is a grad ROTC, maybe they know some people who are and can speak to the differences between being a grad student and undergrad. Maybe a lack of camaraderie or the like.
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| # ? Oct 24, 2009 21:41 |
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Freshman Marine Option reporting in over here. I for one want to see some poor lost soul attempt to order a Master Gunny to salute him.
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| # ? Oct 24, 2009 21:49 |
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BlueBayou posted:Mostly Im wondering what it is like to do ROTC as a grad student. Even if no one on here is a grad ROTC, maybe they know some people who are and can speak to the differences between being a grad student and undergrad. Maybe a lack of camaraderie or the like. I have several grad school friends in ROTC currently. It's a bit different, since you'll initially be thrown in with the AS100 cadets (mostly composed of freshmen 18-19 year old kids). You're still expected to do everything they do however. Basically the difference is having to deal with a younger age group of kids to start with. You'll probably only spend a year as an underclass cadet, then be sent off to field training, and come back as an upper class cadet. Obviously upper class cadets are usually older (20-23) and probably closer to your age group, and you'll probably be able to relate more to them anyway. Though my detachment has tons of extended cadets and older people in general. Hell, we have one female grad student who is 28 and is our current cadet commander. Honestly, camaraderie isn't that much of an issue as long as you don't make age an issue.
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| # ? Oct 24, 2009 22:42 |
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BlueBayou posted:Mostly Im wondering what it is like to do ROTC as a grad student. Even if no one on here is a grad ROTC, maybe they know some people who are and can speak to the differences between being a grad student and undergrad. Maybe a lack of camaraderie or the like. We had a couple of grad students in ROTC at the university of oklahoma. One was a PhD students. Another was in law school, a couple others were masters degrees of one sort or another. They were handled a lot differently, but I think it was because they were all green to gold national guard soldiers. Basically they were on the abbreviated 2 year commissioning program (most were NCOs with like 8+ years in). They came to class, took a PT test twice a semester, but other than that we didn't really see them. They had their degree already, and were experienced NCOs, so all the ROTC instructors expected from them was the coursework and an APFT showing they were staying in shape. Other than that we rarely saw them. I suspect every school has their own way of handling them.
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andromache posted:I suspect every school has their own way of handling them. There's currently one master's program student in my class. He's an E5 in the reserves, but he still does all of the same stuff we do when it comes to field training and he takes an APFT every month. Because he's already been through basic and because he's in a two year master's program, they didn't make him go to LTC; he'll go to LDAC with the rest of us this summer and then commission after completing the MSIV curriculum. I'm not sure how they handle it for people who are only doing a one year program. psydude fucked around with this message at Oct 25, 2009 around 02:00 |
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Yeah, and they could have been doing their thesis defense or something which got them a special deal that semester, I really can't say for certain. I know that we didn't really see them much outside of class and random PT tests. We had the grad students, and we also had those special soon-to-be-leaders-but-currently-failing-business-calc academic achievers who had finished their 4 years of ROTC, but were still working on their degree. Those guys we might see once or twice a semester, unless they were still involved with the ROTC social life (such as there was).
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